 I think it's theory and Mola situation and Ryan and Ryan who just said that after him. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Now. So what's up guys? How you doing? Welcome back to Monday's Stargrip. We didn't do last week because I was moving about but we're back now. So Ryan and I met for the first time. I think it was last week or something like that. Yeah, had a great time with the con. How was your experience? It was crazy. Mega con was awesome. I it's grown a lot since last year over 200,000 people made their way through Orlando mega con over the weekend, which is more than San Diego comic con. I think the only one it's trailing is maybe New York City comic con, but it might even be catching up to that. It was freaking huge. Yeah. And we met about we met literally hundreds of people throughout the course of the entire thing. We filled up a 700 person theater for our panel standing room only, which is insane. And I drank a lot probably too much. Some would argue at the meet up. But yes. It's good. Let me show the happy photo. This is a happy photo. We're high tech here. Yeah, Ryan looks super happy. I do look happy. Yeah, man, had a great time. I did not expect any that is a really big convention. It's cool. It's cool meeting everybody hanging out with you guys and meeting all the fans. It was amazing. I can't wait to do it next year. Is mega con a new thing? No, it's been grown. It's been around for a while, like at least since like 2015 or something. I haven't been down in Orlando that long, but as long as I've been out here, they've been doing it. Yeah. And it's going to be about the same weekend, like the first or second weekend in February, be the same week as the Super Bowl next year. So it's going to be crazy. Super Bowl won't be in Orlando or anything, but it'll just be the same week as the Super Bowl. Okay. Well, that's going to be pretty wild. All right. So Mahler and Mahler's just been chilling, not coming to make a con, not hanging out with us. No, avoiding you like the plague. People were asking like who he was. They were speculating which background character walking around in the stream is Mahler. The more you guys like stroll that I'm there, the more people are going to be like, oh, shit, they lied to me. He wasn't there at all. When I saw someone on Twitter was like, wait, he's not a black guy? Well, you know, yeah, I mean, because between this and the previous star grips, like all the suicide squad shit happened on my end of stuff. I'm now done with it. Do you two even know much about that beyond the clips? No, I don't know anything about it. I paid attention to like kind of the entire saga was unfolding because I love the Arkham games. And then, you know, obviously same studio. They're coming out with this. People are like, okay, live service game. Combat looks a little funky. Don't know if I'm into it, but it's rock steady. So of course they're going to do a good job. And from the gameplay to the mechanics to the live service aspect of it to obviously the entire plot and the writing, it looks like it's just a complete shit show. Complete disaster of a fucking game that deserves to be buried in hell. I mean, the history of it is they wanted to make a game in the Arkham versus being Arkham asylum city and night and origins, I guess, right? With this one is though, the Brainiac has come in and he's mind controlled the Justice League and it's up to the suicide squad to save the world, which involves killing the Justice League. And it's like, okay, well, that's the first thing you think it's like, how's that gonna, if you if Brainiac's got the control of the Justice League, I think it's over guys. That's that's already it. But, you know, the game is like the peak of pathetic in terms of justifying fucking anything. And then Superman gets killed by the Justice League. Yes. At Batman. No, no, suicide squad. Suicide squad. Superman and Batman get killed by Suicide Squad. Batman. The Flash. Green Lantern. Green Lantern. John Stuart's Green Lantern. They all get killed by the Justice League. That's fucking Suicide Squad. With the help of Wonder Woman. Not really. She only helps with Superman, but she doesn't really help with Superman because they say that what she does doesn't do anything. It should have killed him, but it didn't. She's the only person that has an honorable death. Yep. Everybody else is just there is a little bit to be said for. So you having that argument with a lot of people. Well, it's called Suicide Squad killed the Justice League. What did you think would happen? And hey, these are these are criminals. These are villains you really expect them to be respectful. I would say no, but I would also say it like there's certain ways that you can do it to not piss everyone off, which is what they've done, especially when you have Kevin Conroy's last appearance as Batman to go out the way that he did. Now reportedly he might be in another animated movie somewhere down the line, but this is absolutely his last video game performance. Well, in his last Arkham series games, people love him as Batman in these, of course, with Batman in general, but it fits in very well with like the state of the horrors of Star Wars, by the way, like it's it's almost like Taylor made because I assume theory you've seen the clips of how they die the Justice League or have you not? No, I know I've not. I'm in the dark about this. Please tell me. Shit, Ryan, should we just show him it? So let's give you a brief rundown of a couple of them. Maybe we show him the Batman one, but you can tell him about the other ones. Yeah, we could do that. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Well, you probably have all the clips in a key. I don't care if it gets copyrighted, but no, it won't be copyrighted. It's fine. It's gameplay. So yeah, you'll be fine. Yeah, I know they just blocked me. I mean, I can show them all of them. Show me all of them. Chad, you guys cool with this? We go a little off rails. I just find it funny because like fighting anybody who hasn't seen this just to see their reaction to it because you're how familiar are you with DC? I'm pretty familiar. You know, like how we're in a weird state with a lot of media where like they take things that you like and ruin them. And let's just say in a figurative sense, they piss on the corpse of the thing you like. Right. Like in The Last of Us 2. In a strictly figurative sense. Not really seeing that done literally. Are you going to tell me like Harley Quinn pisses on Superhero Batman or something like that? No, that would be probably better than what she did. But Captain Boomerang does piss on the corpse of Flash, literally. Yeah, so that's always fun. The black guy tells him he's got a big dick, though. So there's that in the game. Who wrote this? The people that people who wrote this did not write the other Arkham games. That was fucking obvious from the guess. How do we do this? I guess if I share my screen, I can show you. Yeah. Yeah, that'll work because I know where the fucking deaths are. All right, here we go. Everyone's talking about Sweet Baby Inc. and everything being involved. Somebody who's been consulting a lot of different video game developers lately hasn't gone well when it comes to insertion of a lot of other things. Here we go. Context for the Flash is just they get anti-Flash tech from some guy called the Tony Man who happens to have it. There's no other reason for this. He just walks into the HQ and says, I have a device that can stop the Flash. And then you shoot him almost indefinitely. And then you get to this point. Did you see that? Tell me you did. I was like, how do you know I'm there? Now get your damn gun out. There's our team. Is the game out? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's been out for two weeks. Catch him, everyone. I'll kill you guys in a sec. So crap he just pulls over like. So Brainiac is mind controlled the Justice League, which is why they are on a mission to kill them. Oh, like they've gone rogue. Oh, yeah. For the record, Flash saved their lives twice in this game. Yeah. So they just kill him instead of like capturing him or something. Yeah. See, this is probably all the normal people in the world have these thoughts immediately and the game does not address this shit. So like none of this team entertain the idea of saving the Justice League. They're all just like, we'll just kill them. Okay. That's that's a bit strange, guys. All right. Yeah. No attempt. Like the people who wrote this, you'd think they'd throw that in. They have one line from the Flash to Wonder Woman at one point saying that she can't save them. They have to kill them, but they never give you any reason for this, especially when they describe it as like brainwashing mind control. They're getting destroyed. Yeah. Like is the game. Well, check this out. Well, check this out. Proper respect to this fallen hero. Fight. Show a little class, man. That. Holy shit. Congratulations. Makes sense. The gods have cursed you in every other way. That's kind of funny. Oh, you wanted Boomer. Too bad no one. Well, you can imagine the people who find it hard to find it funny. Uh, whether it be the fans or anything else. But yeah, that's the Flash's death. Not much care is given beyond that. Just pick a phone. Yeah. Green Lantern. Green Lantern ends up in his Green Lantern undies. Yeah. Not so easy in a fair fight, is it? A fair fight. Y'all are pathetic. Y'all. For a dipshit card. Two down to no one that put you above their weight. You're just going to go from Wallace prison to a Brainiac. Which, by the way, doesn't even make sense when he's supposed to be mind controlled in favor of Brainiac. Didn't he? No. We're out on good behavior. What a line. We are not. King Shark is the only thing we're dealing with. King Shark is, yeah, he's the best person I've seen in all of them. It's for the best of Stallone, baby. Well, he's not, he's not voiced by Stallone, but I didn't think he would have been nice if he was. I currently do not. Really show the boxes. Because King Shark ends up with the ring. You know what would have been cooler is if they just take the ring, they make the first one that they take down as Green Lantern, they take the ring, and then they just use the ring to like, I don't know, imprison all of them until, you know, they take Brainiac down. Also, anybody who's like, wants the fucking Green Lantern ship represented properly is that the ring doesn't, it's not like a technology, it's not like a gun. You can't just pick it up. Yeah, you have to be worthy. Yeah, and you see that in the background though. And of all the people, yeah, of all the people that could like use it, it wouldn't be King Shark, you know what I mean? Of course he's got green boxers. It's literally Green Lantern symbols on it, it's like merchandise boxes that they put. Yeah, like I have a pair of those. Yeah, cool. Then you can get, let's get Wonder Woman's death, which maybe I should save Wonder Woman's for after the raffle. If you see how all the other ones are disrespected, then you can see how nice Wonder Woman's is. We'll do Superman next, then we'll do Batman, and then we'll do Wonder Woman for the contrast. Oh God. Superman's is one of the quickest in terms of like just he, they get gold kryptonite, which is going to be specifically this, is much more effective against this Superman. At least they have a great Australian accent. Oh yeah, it's fantastic. It's not great at all. Here you go. Yeah, shoot him and then. Is he infected by kryptonite at this point? Well, so what happens is he's mind controlled by Brainiac, which makes him, it changed his DNA so that he's immune to green kryptonite, or mostly immune anyway. And so then they have to make a new kryptonite that he's now weak to, and then they make bullets out of that kryptonite. And, you know, they find ways in the narrative to just get around the fact that all they want to do is have you shoot, just shoot constantly at everything. Every character just has a fucking, essentially a machine gun. And they're just, you're just shooting, shooting, shooting, or boomeranging. Looks like just the four of us sent your ass back to krypton, Kyle Lill. Don't they realize that this has pissed so many fans off? I don't understand how they wouldn't know that. There's just so many other ways of going around it, like if you want, you know, just to sleep to lose. Easy ways like this. The way that people thought they were going to do it, and I thought this would make one more sense, is that they steal Batman's tech to do all of this, that Batman had contingencies for all of them, and then they take it. Like I said, the Flash is just a lucky that he happens to arrive. They get yellow lantern rings or whatever from Batman's collection. It's like, okay, I guess that one counts. The gold kryptonite comes from Lex Lutha analyzing Batman's DNA, and they beat Batman. Well, I'll show you that one next. But this is pretty much it. This is it for Superman. Like just remember, when you write in something like this, he's like, we just removed Superman from the world. Like, probably should have some impacts maybe, I don't know. A good, glorious battle. But one for remains. It's like, well, let's move on to Brainiac. They're like, okay, Superman. It's like some of these shots are funny because you can just see Superman's just fucking corpse behind them. Yeah, those are the fucking ones. Dead. Okay. But yeah, now let's do good old Batman. This is the one that went viral, by the way. I'm surprised you wouldn't have seen this already. Like I said, the context you really need to remember is that this is Kevin Conroy's Batman from games that have been loved in this season. This is the Arkham Batman. Yeah. So this is after all the Arkham games. Yes. And this is canon. This is not some like shift. According to them, but I don't think Eddie Faddle considered this candid. So what are they dead now? Well, remains to be seen. We're getting season. Well, you got to wait for the season two patch after three months of release and then maybe you'll bring them all back. Maybe that was their plan and they actually thought that would work. Unfortunately, there's now fewer people playing this game than Arkham Knight, which released nine years ago. The play account on this is already shrunk by now. Bman99 says, this makes rings of power look amazing. Well. Well. Let's not go crazy, all right. This is making an effort. We're two for two on killing your boys so far. Love makes it a world to play in. Oh wait, what the fuck? Think you're a team now. You're heard and what's dependent on someone else to survive. Like you, Harkness, an illiterate alcoholic who's desperate. It's a deadbeat, dad. Sharky's a freak. He'll never be a real boy. And I, oh yeah, I never was too bright. Get some new material jerk off. You know, Joker used to be real good at hurting people with words. But you, boop, even when you're evil, you're still too good. I fucking hate your voice. You had a good run, Brucey. Flying around Gotham, punching bad guys. He just peels over? But no. No, give it a sec. Long-term mental and emotional damage to everyone you knew. You see, see that? Causing long-term emotional damage to everyone you knew. That man's the real problem. In Gotham. Causing long-term mental and emotional damage to everyone you knew. The fuck are you talking about, Harkness? It's our turn now. After all we've been through. But you didn't think it'd be me at the end, huh, man? Are we done with your bad stand-up routine? Almost. But you always gotta end the best joke. No way. Bye, Batman. Holly Quinn shoots him in the face. These writers are so goddamn stupid. They don't realize how important these characters are. You can't just shoot them in the face and kill them. Imprison them or something. I just don't get it. It's just the same whole last Jedi thing. Oh yeah. Well, people compare it to Luke. People compare it to Joel, right? From Blasphus 2. Blasphus 2 and Luke. Batman is in there with him now because of a lot of content. And you know what's annoying is seeing some people talk about it when they have no idea what they're even talking about. They're like, oh, so Batman can never die? It's like, you don't even know what history was being dealt with here or what the fans are talking about. You just jumped in. Batman can never die. It's literally like you don't show Batman ever dying. I think if you wanted to do a game like this, there's no reason to put it in the Arkham universe. That's why I thought this is some Segway multiverse shit. Now, they are bringing in some multiverse Joker for this, aren't they? Mauler is a playable character. I've never seen him. Dude, the mock Hamill Joker from the Arkham games is iconic. The fucking Joker they're bringing in for this looks like a Zoomer. I can't take it. It's so like, what the fuck is going on? Looks like he's on TikTok. And I wouldn't be surprised they have that in the game that he has a TikTok profile that he uploads to. Well, you're like in the middle of a fight. It just stops to do a fucking TikTok dance. Yeah, and they would be like, this will appeal to them. I'm just making it up. But like, that's probably what they're doing. Well, in any case, this is Wonder Woman's death. Now, with everything you've seen, Thierry, just let us know if you notice any difference with how they handled this. Sure. You should have taken our chance with the loop. It's about time you saw things from my perspective. Hey, is that fucking... Yes, that's Amanda Waller, though. But yeah. Seer Junda? Seer. Yeah. Yeah, people would tell me she pops up with everything. And I was like, I've managed to avoid all the other games. It literally looks like... Anytime they need like a random Black voice actress, if she'll feel like she pops up. She did pretty good in... That was a fallen order, or survivor. But I just thought her character was lame. She's fine as Amanda Waller. It's just the right end. Yeah. Fucking yeet. The baseball. So she's really going to town? She's not infected? She's not, no. No, she's like the only one except Flash, but then Flash gets mind control because he saved the suicide squad. It's just painful to fucking know this story. This was so confusing to watch, too, because they hadn't told you at this point that Green Cryptonite no longer works on Superman. So you're just sort of watching him not give a shit about it, but then also what you're going to see in a minute. Yeah, it's like... So much awkward looking, too. Ain't it a novel idea, Superman, but evil? Yeah. Not like we saw that with Christopher Reeves or... That's Superman! He'll kick your ass! Oh, shit. What? Ineffective. Ineffective, but it could go through his whole fucking heart. Kind of effective, but not. Kind of effective. I thought he punched through her. Also calling him Kal-El is triggering, but that's a different thing. Kal-El, no! Look at that. This does not kill him, by the way. Pissure he'd be dead. This Juncker Cryptonite is fucking hot, like... It makes him breathe funny. She gets back up. Fucking melts through her shit. Shit, dude's purple now? That means there's no power. It's like the Red Force Lightning. Yeah, that means he's really serious. Did it melt through her? I'm not entirely sure. He's all powered out. Remember, Eye Laser just left to right, kill them all, but... I mean, yeah. Okay, well, he could have just... He doesn't have any energy. He used it all on Wonder Woman, but he can still fly away. He could have just flown through them. Yeah, no, no. Literally, like, separate them. This is fucking music, dude. She's a female hero, Mahler. Like, what is this? Shark, help me carry her in. We got medics inside. This is too late for me. The four of you couldn't achieve anything. Is that what happens when Amazonians die? They turn to brass or something? I don't know what we're supposed to make of it, exactly, but it's dead. They're shaped out of clay. Right? Is that what's happening there? That she's playing? I don't know, but, like, that's... You're having a clay? But I believe that's... Isn't that how Amazonians were made? Or, like, shaped out of clay? That's what happens when you leave it in the kiln for too long? I don't know. Yeah, yes. How do we do that? Get inside. Yeah, well, there you go. It was just so insanely noticeable that, like, you piss on the flash, you put Green Lantern in his boxes, you tell Batman that he's the cause of suffering, Superman is dead in the background, and then Wonder Woman gets this, like, choir to send her off as she slowly perishes while encouraging the heroes to do the right thing. It's like, hmm, that's an interesting choice you got there, guys. Yeah, seems like a stupid game. Wouldn't it have some respect for the other heroes, you know? A couple months before it came out, there was an audio leak along with a description that said how Batman was going to die, and people got really fucking pissed, and it turns out to be exactly what happens. So it was just... Yeah, it was just a nightmare waiting to happen for them. How do you think they're dealing with the backlash? I mean, that's pretty stupid, man. I think they're already trying to announce that they're going to release, like, DLCs or whatever that will contextualize this differently, that the Justice League are actually fine. Don't worry about it. This is all clones or robots or alternate dimension. You'll be fine. They're not all gone. Please don't... Please keep playing the game. It's like, nah, I'm right. They will play something else. The Arkham games were the best. Oh, they're fucking badass. I've been... I've streamed all of Asylum and going through City now, and I'll probably do Night and Origins, and it's just kind of neat to go back and be like, oh, yeah, these games are actually amazing and badass. They hold up so well. And they take so much from the source, and they put it into the games to try and, you know, spread more to more people through a different medium. That's what Aputation is hopefully going to do. You'd like that, wouldn't you? So, as of 30 minutes ago, Suicide Squad killed the Justice League, 3,000 people playing Batman Arkham Knight, 3,700 people playing Arkham Knight. And when did Arkham Knight come out? A decade ago. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. What about, like, Arkham City? How's that doing? Just kind of tells you that, hey, maybe fans want to play their heroes, or, like, you know, at least not see them die. It would be cool. Because I'm usually on the team of, like, there's no story you can't tell as long as you do a well sort of thing, and, like, I'm even on... I think you can kill a Batman. But, my God, like, if ever I was challenged with that, like, kill him in one movie, I'd be like, oh, we got a... that's tough, because killing Batman is one of... He is the character for... No, because he's Batman. It has to be done kind of like The Injustice, whether it's the series or the games, right? It's like, you have to establish somehow that this is some sort of alternate timeline. That's the only way you can really get away with that kind of stuff. And I think if you do it in small doses, it can work out really well, and you can get stories that you never thought you'd see before and things like that. But you can't pretend like it's a main timeline thing. And when part of advertising this was that it's part of the Arkham Timeline, that this is Arkham City Bat... Or Arkham Timeline Batman and all this shit, that is really the biggest sin of the entire thing. I think it's tough to get away from that. Yeah, well, you know, hey, they're gonna learn, you know, from what the fans want would be outcry and... Well, this is gonna do a big dent in Rocksteady. They need the game to be way more successful in this. And what's funny is the Avengers game is practically triple as successful as this and that got removed, so... I mean, 3,000 people playing what per day? They're like concurrently, like as I spoke 30 minutes ago, there was 3,000 people actively playing the game. That's nothing. In the world? In the world. Well, on Steam, but yes. Oh God, that's horrible. Well, that's really pretty bad. Here we all-time peak on release, 13,500. Dude, that's horrible. We get video views higher than that. I know, it's not good at all. Well, because once what people pointed out, I premiered the Supercutter, me playing it on Moola before this today, and I think the peak amount of people watching that, I did the peak of people playing the fucking game. It's hilarious. Oh God, that's funny. Oh, it's gonna cost them big time. And they're gonna- Yeah. You know, what's gonna happen is there's gonna be some guy who's like, how the fuck did this get made? How did nobody stop you guys from making all these stupid decisions? And they'd be like, well, but we figured people would enjoy it. I don't know. We wanted to give Justice League fans something, you know, to have fun with. It was like, yeah, okay, you could do that, but maybe just have the heroes captured or something. You don't, I don't know, dude. These people are so out of touch, I think. I really don't think they understand anything if they're done. The obvious thing if they wanted to, you know, not piss everyone off, make something that was fucking halfway decent is that you have a game where Batman is the only one that escaped Brainiac's mind control, and he has to bring down the Justice League one by one with everything he'd planned prior in case something like this happened. But that he reaches them, you know, as a friend, but also mechanically defeating them, you know, in a very specific and different way for each one, but doesn't kill them. Right. Gap them all, dismantle them all, you know, and... I'm with you right there. So, shall we shift to Star Wars? Sure. What's, well, we have a bunch of new news. So apparently there's a rumor that the Rey movie and the Mandalorian movie come out the same year. That's exciting. Yeah, so if we remember back to when they announced these initial slates of movies, I think they had one set to come out in, like, May of 2025 and another one for December of 2025. Yeah. And I think between the writer strike, the delays, all that stuff, I really think everything's kind of just been shifted almost an entire year effectively. And I think that's still kind of what the timeline is. I think you're looking at, you know, 2026, you know, May 2026 for Mandalorian and Grogu, what a great name for a movie. And then December for the Rey movie. Is that the name? That's what they're going with, yeah. Nice. Mandalorian and Grogu. Kind of like Deadpool and Wolverine. I mean, Deadpool and Wolverine, like, yeah, I could go with that. That's fine. Mandalorian and Grogu. Grongus. Yeah, it's kind of interesting, because I don't know what it's going to be about. They could go in any direction they want. I don't know if they know. I mean, that's kind of like a two-edged sword, right? On one hand, it's like, oh, it's really cool, because, you know, they're free to explore all kinds of stories. But at the same time, there's no thrust. It's like, we don't actually have any reason to be like, oh, they're going to deal with X. It's like, well, no, we're going to have to wait and see whatever they're going to pitch. Well, that's the thing is that if it's 2026, we should get like a Mando season four to kind of, so we don't have to waste time in the movie establishing what's going on, or they're just going to jump right into it, because they can't pull the same crap that they pull with us with the shows and the movie, right? Where it's like, eight episodes of bullshit, and then finally the last two episodes actually move somewhere a little bit. So hopefully, they get to the point within like 20 minutes of the movie. We've another like, maybe two hours. I think it's tough, because what is there for them to do? You said they can do anything. The reason they can do anything is because they've done everything that they should have done with the characters, right? They have basically restored Mandalore, right? That was what they did in season three, right? So they've like, they've restored Mandalore. You got people back on there. Bokitans, the queen, queen Mandalorian now. You were, you had this mission to get Grogu back to the Jedi. You wrapped all that up in season two. You undid it in about 15 minutes of time in the book of Boba Fett. And now he's just back. And now they're literally just kicking their feet up at a random spot at their house. What is there for them to do? You could like do a lottery of just all the different things that could happen. It's like, oh, Grogu's being called to a part of the universe, or Mando needs to go somewhere to help someone do something. Could be anything. Yeah, I just hope it doesn't tie into the sequels. Because they're still, this is, I think it's 10 years after Return of the Jedi now. After all the time. We're getting, man. Chug it along. Eventually we have to get past nine ABY, you know, eventually. Yeah, I think it's 18 years left. And then the sequel start. So at this point, you know, Kylo is, Ben is born. I think he's like five or something or a little older. What have we got going on? Luke's trying to build the Jedi order. Luke's got those droids building the huts that he's going to try to murder his nephew in. Yeah, he's like, oh, this one, you know, I'm going to murder my nephew in. So let's make this one marked out. Let's make the roof really easy to collapse so that, you know, he can get away. The thing is, to me, it's always been leading in the sequels. We've seen that in all the content. And each and every season, they've had connective tissue. When they made the series, that was the first announcement from Favreau and Filoni, like joint statement, basically saying, hey, we really want to connect all eras of Star Wars from original trilogy to prequels to the sequels. Like that's how they build this show. And that is what they've done, you know, to a certain extent, bringing in these characters from Clone Wars, bringing in some of these characters and these things from the OT, and of course, making the connections to the sequels, whether it's about cloning, whether it's about this, like Shadow Council, whether it's, you know, whether it's, you know, we even saw What's His Nuts, Dad. What's His Nuts? You know what I'm talking about? Tom Huggleson, Hux. We saw Hux's dad in Mandalorian Season 3 as part of that council. Right. So it's all leading to the sequels. It's no retcon. Like it's, they're fitting it in. No, but I think what they're going to do is they're going to create their own timeline in between. So they're going to do this whole thing with Thrawn, and then they're probably going to kill him by the time the sequel starts, or like banish him. To Peridia, most likely. Yeah, because they couldn't kill somebody. Yeah, that'd be terrible. Right, yeah. So, except for Luke and Han. So I think they're probably, what they're going to do is they're probably just going to, anyone that they don't want in the timeline of the sequels or whatever the originals, they're going to just banish them into some sort of like imprisoned galaxy or planet where they just can never return. Or it's going to be super difficult for them to return and they'll start like a whole new thing over there. Well, so when you say a different timeline, you just mean they're going to do something in between. That's what you mean, right? Yeah, I don't mean like, like multiverse shit. That would be horrible. But the way they can kind of get around that multiverse stuff, while still having the same sort of effect, I feel, is if they do that Peridia thing. Because it's like another galaxy, and you can't really get to and fro. Unless you're Ezra. Unless you're Ezra. Orasoka. Yeah, yeah. Anything is possible. Yeah, but I think either Ahsoka season two or Mando movie is going to be, I mean, look, I keep saying it's going to be interesting because I, like the way I would write it, at least in my head seems interesting. But the way that the board executives to get in there and metal with shit, I think it really f's things up. But I feel like with Thrawn there on Dathomir and then the Night Sisters and all that shit, I think it's going to be dope in the sense that they could resurrect someone or they could create some sort of a new villain. Asajj Ventress could come back in some sort of way. You know they're going to do it, Ryan. You know they're going to do that. You killed him, by the way. You know they're like, like there's no, like imagine that they want, they want, they need a new female character who's badass. Don't we have a fucking enough of them? Jesus. No, because they suck. Ray sucks. Riva sucks. So who's a dope ass female character who's a little bit dark side? Asajj Ventress. Who's a dope character? Well, in my opinion. That's on the light side. Ahsoka. So they're going to actually, I feel like they have to make more proper female characters like Asajj. So someone badass like Talon and Asajj. Those would be sick. It's not like shitty Riva and shitty Ray. Don't you agree? Well, how about we get a TV show for Kamari Vosa? What about that? Oh yeah, it'd be fucking awesome. Let's do Kamari Vosa. I would love that. I would like to see a Django Fett series. I'd rather see a Django Fett series. It's a direct fucking one to one of the bounty hunter game than I want to see look a Boba Fett. That's for sure. Darth Tyranus ordering the bounty on Kamari Vosa and we even get to see other bounty hunters fail. Like what was his name? Montross. Montross. Yeah. Oh my God, dude. Do it. I'm on the hunt. Yes, dude. It's one of my favorite Star Wars games of all time. It's awesome. It's like purpose built to be turned into a high budget TV show or a movie. They could. But to answer your question. No, I don't think we need a bunch of fucking force users run around the galaxy that have no connection to Luke Skywalker at all in this era where people have supposedly forgotten about force users again. You know what I mean? I just I just don't think we just need to throw a bunch of force users at every situation. Um, what I think this should be is the New Republic actually combating a threat. Right? Yeah. That's what this should be. But now what they've had to do is make the New Republic in just a couple years completely incompetent because that's the only way they can possibly justify allowing what was allowed to happen. And just to make sure you know that Hera and Leia and Mon Mothma and any other one with two X chromosomes, they're the only ones that really know what's going on. They're just being held down by the dumb men in the New Republic. Like that's kind of what the Ahsoka show. Well, that's what I'm saying is I feel like if we had some bad ass chicks out there, we could actually start to further the freaking plot because these Hera I think is just written so poorly in the Ahsoka show. We're like, how was she able to hear what's going on in the world between worlds? How was able to Jason? Well, hold on. What's it was on theory? Anyone can use the force. No. Yeah. Okay. But come on, right? Right? You got a true force. Of course, Hera. Of course, Hera can use it. No, but how can she hear the world between worlds? It makes no sense whatsoever. I feel like even the Jason Sandoval guy. This has been addressed before, but the thing that kills this is Star Wars, as the world we saw in the EOT and the Prequels and everything else, wouldn't be that way if everybody had access to the force. You'd be seeing, I'm not saying everybody would be going around floating stuff, but you'd see a hell of a lot more force power usage. It would be in all industries. It would be fucking everywhere. And it goes well beyond telekinesis. This shit, like you'd have access. There's all kinds of people in it, all kinds of it. It's out of control at that point. Like the world would be different. Right. But George did say everyone can use the. Everyone can develop force, but not to the same extent. So he, hold on. He said that in like 1980, while he's doing an interview for Empire Strikes Back, he significantly changed that for the Prequels. Once he started, once he actually started to like flesh out the concept to put in the movie for midichlorians. And there's quotes of him out there saying, if you don't have a certain midichlorian count, you cannot access the force period. Like he says that in the archives. He did. Remember, it's the. Yes. Well, I assume there are a couple of interpretations of what that statement would even mean, right? Like, like everyone can use it. So that when you have any, anyone can be an artist, but an artist can't come from anywhere, or I forget the ratatouille one, but the point being that it could come from anywhere, but not everyone can be one. Right. Right. He needs to, well, you need to train for it, and you need to have the, I'd say the propensity to be. Yeah. There's no reason why we couldn't get a Gungan force user, but at the same time, not all Gungans are going to be force users or something like that. Right. Right. Right. Which is the obviously the reasonable take. And I think that the world represents that. We don't, we've not seen force users everywhere. We would be otherwise. Yes. I agree. You know, like water. And also, like, if there, if there was like anyone at training hard enough can use a force, why the, why the fuck is there a big list of force sensitive children out there that maybe the empire is trying to get, or the emperor is trying to get access to? That's true. Why would that be an entire plot in Clone Wars and TCW by Dave Filoni if that was really the way things work? Because those kids have probably like a higher propensity to use the force than like fucking broom boyers or whoever. Why didn't Yoda just go out and kidnap fucking 30 random homeless people and take 50 years and teach them all how to be Jedi knights and take down the emperor? Anyone can use the force. Yeah, that's true. That's like Sabine though. She doesn't, she doesn't, she can't ever be as powerful as Anakin or freaking even. I don't give a time. Well, you're right. But like nobody can be potentially as powerful as Anna, right? Okay. But I mean, like, you know, what did we see her do though? We saw her literally push Ezra. Like, I know he's bullshit. That's all, that's a lot, dude. That's not moving a little cup. This is not a little bit of force. This is, you have opened it up and it's a fucking river torrenting through you now. But do you, do you bind to the whole like she is Tor Vizla's, what should I call it, ancestor? Or Tor Vizla is her ancestor? Um, you know, potentially. Like I think you can like make an argument for that. The problem for Sabine for me is she's already an interesting enough character that's good at so many other things. She doesn't need to be a Jedi too. Yeah. Like she absolutely doesn't need to. And to thrust that on her, I think is just stupid. And you could just let her be a Mandalorian. She's already like a genius level intellect, you know, who like, who made a made a device that can just like melt through Beskar armor, which was like 13 years old or some shit. She's already got a lot of like good qualities. She doesn't need to also, oh yes, and she can use the force and she's a Jedi. Fuck off. Yeah, I did stupid. I agree. That's already like a franchise long in the tooth sort of situation where they start combining all the iconography into individuals thing. And that cool. Doesn't that make you go, oh, you know, not really. Mandalorian is that by the way. I wonder how long before they fucking give him the force. Ah, fuck. No, I don't know. He's just got Grogu to do it. Finn's got the force now too. Yeah, it's like they're giving everyone the force. Well, that's the thing, right? We'd be fine with people having the force. If they if there's something behind it, like a sense of dude, you know what it was unique that Luke was literally like the only one that could use the force. You know, but now it's like it's getting to the point where it's like everyone has some aspect of the force and it just kinds of kind of diminishes the level of uniqueness that Luke had. He was like the only one. He was the he was the new hope. And now it's just well, okay, Sabine's got the force. So because he got the force, she's still around. Riva's got the force. She's now around. Uh, who else we got? Hera and her kid. Hera and her kid. Well, Jason Cendulo, at least his father was a Jedi. You know, yeah. Well, it's just establishing how many people we've got. Yeah, many people we've got now on the force. Uh, Shin Hattie, Balon Skull. I mean, they're dope. This is what I'm saying, though. Like if they do it in a way that makes you feel something worthwhile about it, it doesn't quite diminish as much. We're about Broom Boy. Broom Boy. Yeah, fuck that kid. I'm sure he'll return in Ryan's trilogy. Did you see the tweet that was like, it's thanks to people like this that will not get the Ryan trilogy, but will instead get some kind of like grievous film? And I was just sitting there like, fucking yeah, can we get a grievous film? Please. Yeah. Give me a grievous film. Kidding me? But like, Jesus. Make it good, please. Here's my question. The voice actor for Boom Rang is Australian. So is he just laying it on thick? Laying it on thick. This came up when I was streaming it as well. I was like, yeah, when you make fun of like a voice actor, they don't get a get out of jail free card for being from the place. Like I said to them, like, you know, drinker can do a cringy Scottish accent if he wants to. Like it's not impossible. The same for me with Welsh. It's that they would have told the Australian actor to crank it to like 12 and then he did. Like him being from Australia doesn't make the accent. I'm not even, there are accents that are authentic that sound like shit as far as I'm concerned. You know, it's like, and that one was annoying as hell listening to it throughout the whole game. Same with Holly's. It's like, you know, people sound like that. It's like, okay, I don't know what to do with that. Need some English dude there. Neat. To some Irish guy. Some Irish guy. But there's a video out there after that me and drinker just completely blasted. Yeah, I saw it. I saw all the videos, right? Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Jeremy Shaw. Holly is audio torture. Yeah, I mean, we've had way too much exposure to Holly. She needs to be put away for a little while, I think. Harley Quinn is the Ahsoka Tano of DC. Little bit, little bit. Though at least Ahsoka's not like grating. I guess she can be in a meta sense, but not like her voice. Play the clip of Batman beating Harley in one punch. Oh, that fucking shit was so funny. Actually, yeah, just give me like five minutes and I'll find out for you. Is that in the game? It was in, I think the one they're talking about is in Arkham City. A theory I messaged you on Instagram. I hope I wasn't being rude. I'm digging Star... What are you talking about? Keep up the good work, guys. Also, Ryan is a homo. Thank you. You're getting it, man. Looks real hard. Maybe. I've been super busy lately, but I'd like to do a stream for a quick hour or something. I love the Sabres, but you will have me sold if you make a Qui-Gon. I'm saving it up for a nice Saber Yeah, so I'll make a video update on what's going on with the Sabres. We are, well, I'm pouring some fat cash into the websites right now. We're working extremely hard to make a full store and just painted my third room downstairs, which I wasn't really using. I've been reorganizing everything, painted the walls black. Just actually while we were doing the stream, I paid for the signs that are going to go up and all the stands and everything. It's going to be like the review room. It's going to be cool. So I'll review each and every single one of the Sabres and give you guys videos and close in depth shots and everything that you need to know how to activate them. And of course, if you guys have any issues, reach out to customercare on theoriesabres.com or on the Instagram. But I appreciate you guys purchasing and grabbing some Sabres. We only have three available right now, but we'll have an entire store soon of empty hilts, legacy hilts, custom hilts, custom builds. It's going to be a really intricate site. I can highly recommend the Sabre. I bought one. It's real fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah, I'm all about it. It's surprising we got a screenshot. I was playing with it for so long that my arm legit got so fucking tired that I just couldn't anymore. And I was like, oh, man. Are you sure you're talking about a lightsaber? Hey, man, you're looking different. Talking about a theoriesaber and then who knows. I got to get me a... I was going to ask you, what's the best one for a comfort on the hand if you have a opinion on it? Yeah. So when we have the full site, I'll have a whole array for you, but there's one that I just took off the site right now because we're only limited to three at a time. It's called the Ritualist. And that one, and it's quite cheap. It's under 200 bucks. And I'll put that one up probably in the next few days again. I just had a sale for the previous one. That one's really good for comfort on the hand. I won't do goose still. I'm going to have to do that one. Yeah. So we're... I've been testing all of them. I'm testing a ton of them. So cool. It's beautiful, dude. The craftsmanship is really, really nice. So very excited. Context here is... This is Arkham City. Highly recommend playing this game. It's fun as fuck. You're a Batman just trying to save the city from Joker and other villains taking over it. You're entering... I think this is a church and you know Harley is here. And let's just contrast this with how they treat Harley these days. You don't need organs, man. Help me, man! Uh-oh. Ow! Let the lady go that way. Ow! Which game was that from? Arkham... Arkham City, yeah. Arkham City. Yeah. Poor Harley. But yeah, Lucas. Coming soon, man. Stay fresh, boys. What's up, sand? They cut out the scene where Harley Quinn ingested Bane steroids and beat Batman with a golf. Oh, dude. What are they going to do with the season two of that? Of last season? It's crashing and burning, man. They already know that they're going to have to... You know, we're going to have to see layoffs, like shrinkage on basically everything to do with the game. Releasing additional seasons. People are going to just make fun of it. Like, this is insane. The games as a service thing needs to absolutely be killed. It's insane and annoying. And Suicide Squad is one of the worst for it. Because I don't even know how much you know about theory, but like three separate times when I was playing the game, it just said you've been disconnected from the server, so you can't play campaign anymore. You send me back to the menu and I have to be sitting there waiting until it goes, you're back up with the server. I was on the stream, so my internet was fine. It's just like, well... Nice. Can you imagine playing a fucking campaign? They just tell you like, you're not allowed to play. No. Oh, sorry. And yeah, there's always online. You can't own the game, shit. I don't like that, you know? No, I hate it. Why the game? It's mine. Skeleton Scarsguard said recently that Andor Season 2 is less than six months away from being completely finished. Do you think it's possible to get it in 24? It would be possible, but we're not going to. That's not what their plan is. I feel like they'd have to space out anyway, right? So we're 25. Acolyte in the summer. We're getting Bad Batch in a week, 10 days. We're getting... What should we call it? What's... Tales of the Jedi and Skeleton Crew are the other ones, so those would be thrown in there somewhere. Yeah, it feels like it'd be weird to shove Andor in this year instead of just moving it to the next one. It was supposed to be this year. Well, I mean, at this point... They've already said that Andor's coming out in 2025. I don't think there's really any reason for them to push it up this year because what is coming out on its heels, nothing else is in production or anything like that. So you might as well just spread it out in 2025 because at this point in time, I don't know what we're going to have in 2025, Star Wars-wise. I think we'll have Andor season two and we'll have... Geez, is that it in 25? That's the only thing that's actually happening. Now, Ahsoka season two just got green wits, right? What's going on with Mando season four? I don't know. When they start production on Mandalorian stuff, is it going to be for season four or is it going to be for this movie that they're doing? There's not a whole lot of clarity when it comes to some of that stuff. The Lando thing is still supposed to be happening. No one wants that, dude. Nobody wants it. Donald Glover really wants it. Well, of course he does. I would too if I was Donald Glover, but it just doesn't... Why not a solo season two or a solo? So we can continue with Kyra and Maul. That's all I care about. They probably don't like to touch that because of the movie flopping. The thing is, if you would ask me in isolation, would I like a Lando series that's kind of like the Young Indiana Jones series where you have like an old Lando, an old Billy Dee Williams who's just sitting in a bar and he's like, let me tell you something, kid. The old days, they were something else. And then he introduces something and then he's like remembering back and it's just Donald Glover going through this like crazy adventure that he talked about. The idea that the concept of that is cool as shit. I'd be down for that, but I don't trust any of it happening. It'll just be what robot am I fucking this week? I don't know if I'm down. I don't think it's going to be that. I don't think they'll do that. I don't think they'll do that. But I mean, I don't know, dude. Well, you know, Lando did have an adventure with Luke right in that new book. So, hey, maybe it could be something good. Will you talk about the Doth Uchi thing? No, the shadows of this was a call. The new book that just came out with Luke where Anakin comes and saves him from the shadow beings or something with lightsabers. What's it called, Chat? Shadows of the Sith. Shadows of the Sith, yeah. I just guessed. Oh, fuck. I don't know. Yeah, shadows of something. Sounds right. Yeah. The shadows of Scythandum. Shadow of the Empire. No, I wish. Dash Rendar. Do you play ever play that back in the day, Mauler? Of course. I think I know you played it. What about you, Mauler? You play Shadows of the Empire? I don't think so, no. Those games I've played, I felt like I played a whole bunch when I was younger but then I realized there's like way more, you know. There's so many. Some of my favorites are like the late 90s, early 2000s. The Shadows of the Empire obviously came out. Rogue Squadron, that was awesome when it came out. But the flight simulators on the PC were X-Wing, TIE Fighter, X-Wing vs. TIE, X-Wing Alliance. Those were awesome. I used to spend literally hours sitting there with a freaking, like I've made my mom buy me a joystick just to play that game. That was so fun. Yeah, those were good times, man. The games are just better back then. So did you hear about the whole $1.5 billion that Disney's now spending on? I don't really understand it. It's the Star Wars, Marvel, Disney Parks. Yeah, they realize that games are a thing. Yeah, games make the most money of anything, really. I mean, what does it say? Do you know much about it? Other than the fact that it's happening, I mean, just, I don't know what else there is. Oh, well, the investing in making games, that's all I know. Oh, it's supposed to be some sort of like a Fortnite thing. Yeah, so, all right. You're talking about the Disney thing they announced with Epic? Right. Sorry, with Fortnite. So they, yeah, with Epic Games, they basically bought into Epic Games, $1.5 billion for like a share, and it includes a big partnership with all of their different franchises, not just Star Wars, but Marvel, like Pixar, like a bunch of stuff to have like little events and things like that. I don't know the grand scheme of exactly what it's going to look like, but they have a big long-term partnership with Fortnite through Epic for who knows how long. So what I think, like what I gathered from what I was reading is essentially it's going to be, you know, kind of like Disney World, where you have like trains that you can transport from one land to the next. There is a full on going to like Star Wars land in Fortnite animation, but it's all Star Wars. Like you can have AT's, you can like from what I saw, full on like Empire War meets Call of Duty, Star Wars. And then you can like traverse to the Marvel land and it's going to be the same thing, basically like the fight at Wakanda. And then it's going to be like a Disney parks thing where you can like go there and you can like go around and hang out with your friends or do different, I didn't really fully understand. You can go to Stark Tower, Stark Industries, stuff like that. So it seems like a full on like immersive sort of experience where you can go to these different worlds and play in different environments and different IPs. It can have an event where they tell you that somehow the Emperor returned. That'd be cool. That'd be unique through Fortnite. Who would do that? Yeah, that'd be stupid. Who do you think paid for that one? Fortnite or Disney? Disney. Yeah. Have an event like that? No. Because that would bring people to Fortnite. I'd imagine Fortnite would pay Disney for that. Maybe. Like so obviously. No, wait, because the Emperor, the whole point of that announcement is to get people to watch Star Wars. Yeah, like that's an ad. Like that's an ad that Disney wanted. For sure. That event is an ad for Disney. Now, I'm sure that throughout the course of the last however long, I'm sure that they have gotten paid very handsomely for the rights to use a lot of these characters. Oh my God, yeah. The same thing goes across all the different franchises that they pull from, like 100%. When it comes to that specific event, I would imagine that Disney are the ones that are making that happen. Because it is a big advertisement. Yeah. Not very effective, I don't think, but it was a big advertisement. My two questions about the Disney deal are my one question is can I shoot Mickey Mouse in the head in Fortnite? My second question is can I use Mickey Mouse to shoot other people in the head? It's really all I care about with this big deal. Probably. Makes sense. Just go to Magic Kingdom and start shooting. Kind of crazy. In the game. Obviously in the game. We're talking about Fortnite. Well, you never know. Someone's going to get that. Yeah, it's Fortnite in Minecraft. I would never actually go to Magic Kingdom for real. Yeah, obviously. But you know these fucking weirdos, man, they're going to clip that. Stupid as shit. Oh, man. They just get clipped again, I don't know. Uh, anyway. Baller's always involved in these clips somehow. Just sitting there. Yeah, I'm just here. Chilling out. Because he's everywhere. I am. I infect the whole internet. Baller just wants to talk about riding and somebody goes off on some random tangent and he ends up in the clip and gets slendered. Yeah, what the fuck, dude? Like, just fuck me, right? I'm used to it this far, it's fine. When you had your private talk with Hayden, did he mention that he and Natalie are an item again and can pad maybe United starting rumors? No. Darth Racer, you're the one that super chatted me about that as well. I think he just wants it to happen. He's trying to speak it into existence. Ah, got it. Okay. Manifesting. Hey, chat. We got 3,000 people in the room. If we can get 3,000 likes, that'd be dope. We're about 1,000 likes right now. So we'd appreciate it. Really helps the algo. Can you react to Star Wars fan animations, shout-outs of the Empire fan film trailer? Sure. Ryan, do you think you could bring that out? Is that a new trailer or something like that? Let's see how long it is. Shadows of the Empire. By the way, you guys, regarding super chats, we are now splitting them. So all your money will go to each of us. Yeah, so if you hate me, don't super chat because I get a portion of it, all right? Gosh, I'm not going to make that statement. Yeah, so officially, yeah. We would have got more if you just never said that theory. Nah, they all love us. Everyone loves us here. Well, I'm sure there's probably like 100 people that are just looking for clips and trying to be opportunistic in that sense. All right, I've got it's two minutes long. Hopefully doesn't use any copyrighted music. Let's react to this here. Boom. Going through Mahler's Ragnarok video right now. Love that you guys point out every tiny detail and things I didn't notice while playing it. Theory, if you have a good 20 hours to spare, I recommend checking it out. Well, we got more? Yeah, play the game. Fuck yeah. I think you like, didn't you say you played it already, right? Dude, I played it when it came. Yeah. I finished it. Yeah. What do you think of that? Oh, it was amazing. Give me more. What do you think about it? Come on. I like God of War 4 more. I didn't like too much about how we would segway off into like Atreus. Like I know what they're trying to do. They're basically going to make an Atreus game, most likely now, where he's like a little bit older. Fine. You know, cool. But I came for Kratos and the dynamic with Kratos and Atreus is what I enjoyed. But to be honest, I rather the very end where Kratos and Mimir are together. I think that is the way to go forwards. Especially with the DLC. They've done so well with the dynamic between Mimir and Kratos that like if they said like, oh, new God of War game, no Mimir. I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? You keep Mimir no matter what now. No, amazing. Yeah. The two of them together. It was one thing that struck me. I don't know if you caught it, but like when you first play Ragnarok, he refers to him by his name instead of head, like as he does throughout all of the 2018 game. It's just cool. And then when you get Helios in Valhalla, he calls him head like Silen's head sort of thing. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I haven't beat the DLC or whatever. So. Wow, loser. I will. But no, my favorite game of all time, God of War 4. Oh, that's cool, man. I love it. I prefer Ragnarok. It's for the payoffs. I absolutely adore what they do with Kratos in that game. Yeah, Ragnarok definitely comes right after it. I would say it's weird. GOW are my favorite games, God of War and Gears of War. Oh, really? OK. And then, of course, you know, Ocarina of Time, but I hope they remaster it. That would be like such a Nintendo thing to do, to not advertise it and just drop it on a random Nintendo Direct. They're like, hey, seven days from now, we're releasing Ocarina of Time remastered. Make Sports Wars great again. Stop trying to make boring Beardo happen. He's not going to happen. Hey, I made a Sports Wars video today. Thank you. I be cocoa. Big Super Chat from Good Ranch. Thank you so much, Good Ranch, for the 66 bucks. Execute Order 66 with cheese and a small raspberry shake. That's an interesting combination. Cheese and a small raspberry shake. Cheese and a small raspberry shake. Hey, man, don't knock it until you try it. All right. Thanks for the suggestion, bro. Downside of New God of War, no GTA Wade. I don't get it. Well, which Wade is it? Is it about the Wade from fucking Kenobi? I mean, it's all because I'm not as familiar with GTA, so if there's a GTA Wade. No, I'm not. I've been listening to forgetting. Was interested in the Acolyte until Leslie Headland stuff. And then I heard the actor say there's really no good or evil in Star Wars. Tracks perfectly for modern Disney storytelling. Tired of this. No, I think the one that tracks for me was when she's like, yes, I'm a powerful female character. Star Wars is more of a patriarchy. That for me, I was like, okay, well, I see where perhaps the show is headed. So let's just maybe focus on a good story. We could be nice. All right, here we go. Gender thing. Star Wars shadows of the Empire animated fan film. He is a dangerous man, my master. Not to be trusted. Do not trouble yourself with she's or Vader. He is my concern. Yes, my master. No job. I expect a bonus. The music is freaking wild. Like it's like they're just hitting everything hard right there. Some of the, some of it looks decent though. I'm surprised. I told you, Princess Leia hired the right guy. You are outmatched. I think we've got Slave One spotted. It's at an Imperial moon base on Gaul. I hope you've got something interesting cooked up for us. That's pretty cool. I watched that. I love that. Yeah. So shadows of the Empire was when it came out 95, 96, somewhere in that timeframe, but it was like a multimedia project. It was a video games. It was, you know, novelizations, you know, comic stuff. Like they put out a lot of stuff surrounding it all at the same time and takes place in between Empire and Return of the Jedi. Han's frozen in Carbonite still. You've got kind of Dash Rendar, who acts as a kind of scoundrel, smuggler, kind of Han Solo, like stand in character in The Outrider. It's cool. Yeah, I really enjoyed that game when I played it. The gameplay, like mini N64 games, doesn't hold up super great nowadays. No, but I mean, still enjoyable. Those freaking tentacle things, man, those drove me insane. The, when you go in the water and it's like the Sarlacc tentacles. Oh my God, those drove me nuts. I had to use homing missiles on them, remember? Instead of trying to like shoot them a million times. Yeah. What do you like to think of the Disney earnings call and all the news around Epic Moana 2? I've heard people say it helped and hurt Disney. Your opinion. I don't know anything about the earnings call. Do you guys? Yeah. So they, to me, obviously the stock bumped up after it. They lost another 1.3 million subscribers on Disney Plus, but they committed to paying a bunch of other people for other content, whether that's Epic, whether that's getting the streaming rights to Taylor Swift's concert, or whether that's shifting what was going to be like a Disney Plus thing and making it a release into a movie with Moana 2. They basically admitted that we can't do anything originally more, so we're just going to focus on sequels to things we already have that are already successful, and we're going to acquire things that other people have made because we can't make original shit. So it kind of depends on your perspective. Obviously, some investors thought it was good news afterwards, but long term, we'll see what they can do to turn it around, because you have to start creating other things yourself. They got in this position because they just continued to buy things that were already successful, and then they destroyed them. Yeah, so. Literally. They thought like, okay, you know, it's a home run. We're going to just make more of whatever's already successful, and we just buy it. It doesn't work like that. Anyways, they'll learn. They'll learn with their pockets. I got a proposition for Disney. If you guys want to make Vader Episode II exclusive on Disney Plus, and three. You're surprised. We know it's going to hit big numbers, Disney. You'll probably get millions and millions of subs. What would you want in exchange? Money. How much? We can talk about that. But no, you know what? What I'd want in exchange is an interview with George Lucas. Disney can't make that happen. You'd be better off going to somewhere else than Disney. I'm sure they could. Okay, out of curiosity, if you go to ask him one question, you got one thorough answer. Would you do it for that? No. What about two? No. No, I want to sit down and hang out with them. I'd fly out, speak with them for maybe like, I don't know, an hour. That's it. Yeah, fair enough. And maybe some money. That'd be good. I'd want to go to a mall food court and eat lunch with them. At least for the film. They could pay for the film. Maybe I have to do that. Yeah, that'd be sweet. Just go to some random food court. No one knows. The picture of him at that Australian food court. It's hilarious. It'd be awesome. It's not quite as good as him popping up in the middle of that documentary. No. So pretty good. But almost as good. Yeah. Could you imagine you just go to your random food court and you're like, Fuck, it's George Lucas. And you're like right next to him, he's like, What do you think of the sequel trilogy? He's like, oh, shit. Yeah, anyway, bye, dude. See you around. Hey, Brandon. Thanks for being a member, bro. Thanks, Meggy Kohn. Can we roast marshmallows and lift, please? Yeah, you got it. Yeah, the second part to the vlog is coming probably in a few days. Wait, wait, wait. Weren't you cool? And even so far as make excuses for why Sabine having the force. Now you have a problem with it. It was never good with that decision, but still respectfully. I always had a problem with it, but part of the channel is explaining things and why they make certain decisions. But I'm not necessarily cool with the amount of force that she used, and you can go back to the videos about me talking about it, where I explain that and express that. But her using the force, I mean, yeah, look, everyone's able to use the force is what George said, but there is a limit. So her using the force to that extent. No, I was never okay with that. If you want, you can go back and watch. Hey, Thierry Muller and Ryan, FYI theory. You really got to check out the Fears to Fathom episodic horror game series. Never heard of that. Yeah, I'm not sure about that one. Did any of you watch Reacher? I watched a few episodes. I have not, but a bunch of people recommended season one. People seem less recommended with season two, but it's still good, right? I think it's still good. It's a step, a little bit of a step down, but it's also very different. The book itself is very different. Season one is very isolated into a small town. And like solving a mystery in that town, whereas the other one, there's a lot more people involved, but that's how the book is as well. It's a lot more different cities they go to and everything. I'm going to get it back to the season one type of template for season three. Season one is, listen, it's not like revolutionary or anything. It's kind of just getting back to basic storytelling, but it's, to me, it's well done. And it's a character they're not afraid to just be like toxic masculinity with Jack Rachel. So it's good. Yeah. He's a cool character. Mahler, sorry you played Suicide Squad. Rocksteady should be ashamed. They said it in the Arkhamverse. Also your fave Batman, the animated series episode. I haven't watched it. Well, like I've seen episodes here and there, but I haven't really gone through it. My big intro to Batman, like lore, has been through the movies and the games. It wasn't, it wasn't through the comics, all through the animated series, but. He still has to watch a Clone Wars. As long as we set that homework in stone, right? Wait, two months ago. Little, we do it. Neither of us have done it. I was going to say, we'll have to get Ryan in now as well, right? You're going to have to re-watch along with us. Look at him with this little, little, like, I don't need to do that. I know it back to front. The two Clone Wars. Gendie, Gendie. Yeah, I mean, it would, it would be good for a refresh for sure. What breaks canon worse? Surviving lightsabers or the hold-o maneuver? Hold-o maneuver? No, I would say life, surviving lightsabers. Are you kidding me? No, no, I think. When you look at Maul, he had the dark side. Well, tell me, Riva getting stabbed fucking twice, once as a kid, isn't worse than the hold-o maneuver? Hold-o maneuver destroys all the Star Wars. Yeah, we're talking about levels, right? It is still really stupid for so many people to constantly survive like the same type of, like, lightsaber shit. However, if you're telling me that, you know, all the Rebel Alliance needed to do to stop the Death Star was maybe just send one guy in a suicide run and go to hyperspace and blow it up. Like, that's a whole different level of fucked up from a canon perspective. Yeah, that's true. Wow, they're both fucked up. They are, yeah. Oh yeah, making lightsaber shit or making it sort of space battles never made any sense. It's like, thanks. Yeah, cool, thanks. Making Qui-Gon's death, the Death Star run, are both so important. Are the lorekeepers MIA? Yeah, you know what? That raises a good question. They could have just done hyperspace into the literal Death Star. And something you've got to understand about the quote-unquote lorekeepers is that they'll tell you the ones who work for Disney and the ones who you find on Twitter, they're like, wow, you're so stupid you don't understand that the holder maneuver actually matches lore completely. You're so stupid you don't understand that everything Luke did actually matches his character perfectly. And you're sitting there like, oh, shit. This is even worse than incompetence. Yeah, but there's something special, those guys. I would still love an actual remaster of Shadows of the Empire done in UE5, Unreal Engine 5, on the scale of what they did with Final Fantasy 2. They could remaster all the games. I'd love that. You know what's so fucked is that they had been doing that Kotor remaster in the Unreal Engine for forever. And Disney shut it down only to announce what they're going to do with their own Kotor remake, and then it's just dead in the water. You know what I mean? It's also insane. One of the things that came out of the Disney earnings call was Bob Iger saying, you know, as I looked at the landscape, I looked at the Zoomers and the young kids and there seemed to be playing a lot of video games. And I thought we really need to get into video games. It's like, one, congrats on being a decade late to that. And two, man, it's almost like there was an entire video game developer attached to Lucasfilm when you bought it called LucasArts that you decided to shut down when you bought it and shut down every project that was associated with it. Instead, farm out your games to places like EA for a decade. Is there an article on this? I'd love to rip into it. Bob Iger said this? Yeah, like I'm obviously being a little bit hyperbolic, but that's basically what he said is, I noticed that the young kids are really getting into video games. That's why we wanted to partner with Fort. Yeah, let's just shut down fricking LucasArts. Cool. Sounds good, Bob. Bro, this headline, Bob Iger quote, stunned by popularity of gaming. God damn. So here, this is just the first article that popped up. I'm sure there's something better, but Bob Iger stunned by popularity of video games. The media giant recently announced that it's teaming up with Epic Games to allow consumers to interact with stories and characters from Disney-related brands such as Marvel Pixar and Star Wars. Iger, 72, just so you know, he's old, said during the investor call, in terms of their total media screen time on video games, it was stunning to me, equal to what they spend on TVs and movies. Or sorry, what? The amount of screen time on video games, it was stunning to me, equal to what they spend on TV and movies. And the conclusion I reached was we have to be there, and we have to be there as soon as we possibly can be in a really compelling way. Oh my God, dude. Dude, this would have been kind of boomerish even 10 years ago. Yes. Yeah, boomerish. Yeah. Go back to 2010, this would have been like, what? Yeah, cool, a little bit late to get into it, I suppose, but yeah, it is just very ironic that they decided to shut down LucasArts the way that they did and Star Wars games have just been an absolute pit of despair since then. They've been shit. With a couple, obviously I know a lot of people like Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor. That was the gleaming. Yeah, that was great, but that's all you're going to give us. I mean, you literally could have done Force Unleashed. Three, you could have done Battlefront. Three, you could have done all these. We have Remaster, all the co-tour games. Remaster, Freakin' Republic Commando, Bounty Hunter. The thing was back in the early 2000s and stuff like that, and even really before they, they saw what was working with other places. They saw what, you know, different genres or types of games, whether it was strategy, whether it was flight simulators, whether it was first person shooters. They took that and they're like, hey, let's find a way to do this, but in a Star Wars setting. And they shit out a lot of games, not all of them were great, some were crappy, but a lot of them ended up being bangers. They were really good because they weren't afraid to just go out there and make a lot of different things. Obviously, game development is different now than it was back then. For instance, after the success of Knights of the Old Republic, they fast-tracked Code Tour 2, and I think that game was made in like eight or nine months or something insane like that. Obviously, they got a lot of the files and everything that they were able to replicate from Code Tour 1 and made it a little bit easier, but that's why that game was kind of a buggy mess. That's why they cut so much content, but things are just so much different now game development wise, but still the principal beam, they put out so many different things, and that's why we have all these great Star Wars games to look back on that came out in like some of them in the same year. You just don't have that anymore. Yeah. No. Hey, Bob, thanks for shutting down LucasArts, dude. That's awesome. And then now they created what? Lucas Games. Lucasfilm Games or something, right? Which is basically a partnership to like work with the people that they're doing games with, like that Indiana Jones one, I think. Which like when I saw people react and I was like, it's not going to be good. No. Just to put plainly how strange an experienced Fortnite is from Mahler. I was a clone trooper teaming with Goku and John Cena killing NPC Kid Peter. Oh yeah, I know. Fortnite's just the franchise sort of, I called it a franchise swamp in one of our cat ships recently. That's a good way of putting it, yeah. Franchise Blender. Thanks for the memberships, guys. Thank you, Good Ranch. Downside a new God of War, no GTA Wade. Read that one. Thank you, Rossi. Did you guys watch Deadpool trailer? I did. Yeah. What do you think about it, guys? It's the first time in a long time in the MCU that I laughed and it was a trailer. At the pegging comment? Yeah. Ryan Reynolds can make me laugh, which is something. You soiled yourself while you were unconscious. I wasn't unconscious. I can expect myself to enjoy some of it, but I'll see the TVA in there. It's like, good God. How'd you get into a movie? What's going on with that? So now they're going back. Did you watch Loki? The first one. Okay. First season. So now they're... And I heard Josh Brolin say that Thanos is coming back. He did say that he's just waiting for the call, that he's heard whispers that they're going to bring Thanos back for something. I'd be down for that. Why? He did all of this just to come back to me. He was dope. He was dope. Would you feel the same way if they were like Palpatine's coming back again, bro? No. It's going to be great. No, that's stupid. Well, because of the end game, he wasn't really... That wasn't the real Thanos. That was just like some younger version that... He got a Cliff Notes version of his life. Yeah. That's stupid. Well, I don't disagree. I just don't know what... Why would bring it back? Yeah, why would bring it back? What you want to remake of end game is what you want, then. Because it was more entertaining than anything they're doing now? He was a much more entertaining villain than Kang. Yeah. Why don't we make Kang good? Why don't we have someone else in the script? It won't. Why do you think they make new Thanos again good? If it's the same people involved, why do you think just bringing back a CGI Josh Brolin changes or anything? I can be hopeful, you guys. Why can't we be hopeful for fucking Dr. Doom or Galactus or whatever? Because they're not going to do that, obviously. I like the way you said Dr. Doom. What do you mean they've already said they're looking for Dr. Doom casting? Are they? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. Dr. Doom. Doom. Dr. Doom. That's fantastic for movies. Like, the cast has been finalized for like months, and they still... They can't... I don't know if they can't find it. Like, I don't know if they're done rewriting it yet or whatever, but they still haven't announced it. Isn't Pedro Pascal Reed? Yeah. Fantastic. Guys and everything now. He is. Yeah. You can probably get him for cheap now. Well, on that note, guys, like spike in 3, 2, 1. Everyone hit the like button. In 3, 3, 2, 1. Ryan, did you hit like? Okay. You can hit like. Mine... Yeah, mine. I still have it open from when the stream first started. It says six likes. I think that's out of date. That's awesome. That's refreshing. That's where we want. It's exactly where we want to be. It's great. Oh, now there's seven now. Oh, cool. You think Star Wars will bring back Barris Afi? I wonder what happened to her. She turned into a terrorist. They destroyed her character, you know? That's kind of a funny name, by the way. Barris Afi. They probably will, dude, because she was like the number one antagonist to Ahsoka. Yeah, they took... So, Barris had a much different story kind of in continuity before TCW, and they turned her into a fucking terrorist. So, if you like that character before, get fucked. Disney can make money easily. Upload old animated TV shows, Emperor's New School, Tarzan TV Show, and Hercules Cartoon, Air of the Weekly. I don't know what that means. So, Sam Roos. See you, Mahler, Ryan, usually at most, both you, theory, hi. What the fuck? That was a decent attempt. This Cumbrian beef is Welsh. But you know what? I appreciate. Yes, I let you go that far. I just wanted to... I literally just watched him struggle for like two minutes. Chat will thank me for it. All right, great. Oh, let's clip it. Theory, you turned on members only chat, but yes, I did, because there was some spamming beans. I understand the take that Andor was well made and well acted, but do you guys think it added enough to Lore to justify its existence? I don't think something needs to add to Lore. I guess I want to like ask a clarifying question on what add to Lore means. I kind of just despise the character of Cass and Andor. I'm not invested in the character. That's the hardest thing about... Yeah, I'm not interested in him. I shouldn't say hate him, but I'm not interested in him. There's like nothing there for me. I don't know if it's because of Diego Luna. I don't know if it's because we already saw him in Rogue One, and I just don't think there's too much to him, but I just don't like that character. So, but I don't know about the question about adding Lore. Like grand events of the overall story of Star Wars or something, I guess, or just changes to things that are interesting. I don't know. It's pretty contained, Andor, and we know what it's leading to, right? Like in terms of big events, it's technically leading to the destruction of the Death Star, but we've already got that. So what we're getting is stuff that's going to be tied off. It's like, how interesting is, you know, Stellan Skarsgård's character? It's like, well, he's probably going to die in season two. And it's like, well, yeah. And that doesn't mean to imply that it won't be interesting. Probably well, it's just that we're not going to be creating or adding necessarily anything that's going to be of a surprise to the universe, I don't think. But it's not something I need in Star Wars. I just want good stories. And part of, I think part of my, the reason I don't like the character is because Rogue One is a story that was stolen from Old Star Wars. Kyle Katarn and Jan Orr's all of a sudden, they changed the gender roles. You have Jinn or so instead of Jan Orr's, and you have basically a ripoff Kyle Katarn and Cassie Andor. They even look the same, you know, and they're having the same role in terms of stealing the Death Star plans and shit like this. So to me, I would just scoffed at that. I thought it was so stupid. So I've kind of hated the character since Rogue One. And I'm not interested in seeing any more. Well, see, that makes a lot more sense now, because most people don't feel anything for Andor. A lot of people like him from Andor, but then you, you know, like I said, you went with disdain first, which is pretty strong. It's like, now I know all that, like, oh, that's why I say. Yeah, it's just like the same shit, right? It's like, they know only a handful of people did it, so they throw this thing away. They say, we want creative freedom, so we're going to get rid of all these freaking stories that were in continuity before. And we're going to, so we can have creative freedom and do our own thing. And then you literally just rip that stuff off. You gender swap the roles, and you pretend like you're a creative. I absolutely would prefer if they had adapted with respect, right? But like, there's a couple of things that exist in our world that we have a lot of respect for, that are taken from things without taking them, you know, like The Shining, for example. It's like, there's stuff that exists that, Horton of Hill House is one of the big examples. He didn't really take, he didn't respect that book at all to the point where the fan reviews of it are pretty angry, but the most people watch the show, like it was pretty cool. I was like, well, you know. That's why I think that you have to keep your opinion in perspective. Like, I very much understand that I'm in the minority of Star Wars fans in terms of people that read a lot of these books, you know, that cares about all these things. I get that, right? So I understand that my opinion is going to be shaped by that, and that a lot of people might not understand why I feel the way that I do. I get it. That makes sense. All I guess I want to push on is that it's funny that we have these questions about Andor, because to me it feels like it is one of the few worthwhile things Disney did. And so we're trying to figure it out, because why didn't it sort of work? And it's like, you know, did it add enough law, or did it do enough things that were interested to do this, to do that? And in your perspective that it like, it pilfered no less than a lot of other things that they've done, the difference to me seems to be that they managed to not completely fuck it up after stealing it from something. How do you feel about Rogue One when it came out? It was 50-50. I liked a couple of things in it. Funnily enough, I argued with As like four years ago in defense of Vader in that film, because he said he was like cheap, key jangly crap that wasn't actual Vader. I think Vader's awesome in that film. Like I think they nailed him for the few scenes they had of him. I think it's awesome, but I think it's tough to justify seeing him 45 minutes later in the duel with Ben. After what we just witnessed. I understand that. Yeah, because that's the thing, right? I'm not watching it that way. I'm not even thinking about that. I'm mostly just watching it as like an additional Star Wars movie. But to watch them as a first time Star Wars viewer like that, I think we'll actually kind of make a new hope feel weird. Yes, 100%. Now, I do think that of the times that we've seen Vader, that he was actually felt like a threat, and like a badass and stuff like that, which is different than the way he's been portrayed in some other media. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of what I'm getting at. In Rogue One, it felt like that film was afraid of him, which I'm cool with. But one of the most frustrating things for me was about that is as he's sitting there slamming this dude up and down, like doing all this stuff. Bro, just force grab the lens. Didn't we talk about this that he didn't know? He didn't know that's what was happening back there. He was just focusing on killing everybody. No, he was obviously like hunting down that. He knew. What do you mean he's shredding through people? He doesn't know exactly what everyone's doing on the ship at all times. He's just deflecting fucking blasters. Hey, that guy's running away. What are you talking about? They're all there to kill him. My theory is that he didn't on purpose is because he doesn't want... He never liked the Death Star. He never liked that something was more powerful than the Force. I don't know about that. He says, why would you hope? Why was he stopping the trench crews then? Yeah, stop the... He wasn't. Or vet. He literally was. What do you mean? Yeah, he was pretending. He could have easily just like... Right? But he was just pretending like he was going through them and having some fun. So he could tell the Emperor, like, oh yeah, I tried. They got away. I've never heard this before. What are you talking about? It's a theory. It's a Star Wars theory. That's a Star Wars stretch. Well, he doesn't like the Death Star, right? So why would he want the plans to be retrieved so that the rebel... Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. ...can't destroy it? Well, when you say he doesn't like the Death Star, are we going from that one quote about your technological terror? Yeah. Yeah, but that line is about respecting the power of the Force. It's not about how he hates technology or the Death Star or anything. Yeah, but it was in comparison to the Death Star because they were like, your ancient religion, blah, blah, blah, and he was like, don't be so sure about this technological terror that you've constructed next to the power of the Force. So he was... They were comparing it. They were basically scoffing at the Force and then they were putting this Death Star on a pedestal. Well, writing-wise, that sets up or foreshadows rather Luke being able to destroy the Death Star with the Force, right? But Vader was trying to stop him actively. He stopped everybody who was going in there. Yeah, because he didn't want the entire Death Star to be destroyed. And when it came down to it, he's like, well, I'm the only one that has to kind of jump in here and make it not happen. You are confusing the hell out of me right now. Well, if he really didn't want it destroyed, then he would have done his best to stop those plans from getting out. I don't... I think he wanted it to be destroyed in the beginning. He changed his mind. Well, I don't think he changed his mind. I think he was just going with the flow. I like that we have three different perspectives here because it might take us that he didn't know that's exactly where the plans were. He was just killing people. Well, because at that point... I take it's just a cool fucking scene that they didn't think about. Why didn't he just fucking force grab this bitch and yank him back? Well, no, I think at that point, the Death Star hadn't been established as well as it was in perhaps later on, A New Hope, where the whole galaxy started to realize that this thing can destroy planets and so that Vader wasn't as imposing anymore because it's like, well, who cares about Darth Vader just going to blow up our planet? So he's not as important anymore. He's not as scary. I would not make the argument in terms of he's not as scary. I would make the... If I was going to make the argument, I would make the argument in terms of his pecking order in terms of how important Tarkin is versus him to the Emperor. Like, that's what I would make an argument for if I was going to go your route. Well, yes. Don't agree with, but it wouldn't just be about him being scary to people or whatever. No, it's all about his level of importance to the Emperor. Yeah. So, I mean, like, right now, it's basically the Emperor Tarkin Vader and Vader hates Tarkin in that sense because he's like, well, why is Tarkin more in command than I am? And then now you have the Death Star, which is like even more powerful than the Emperor in a sense where it's like no one really fears the Emperor or Vader that much anymore. They fear the Death Star. Where we get in this... As far as I'm concerned, he respect the hell out of Tarkin to the point where you'll listen to him and take orders from him. You'll listen to him, but there were many times that he just wasn't really too happy about it. Taking orders from Tarkin, no. Well, yeah, but what are you referencing like to show that he was... I remember something in the Tarkin novel. I don't exactly remember what it was, but I remember I was getting the feeling that he is tired of taking orders from this dude and the fact that he is now second in command or third in command from the Emperor. Yeah, like, you can like understand why there would be like a healthy rivalry and an uncomfortableness about that and everybody working together in that way. I don't agree with your theory that he wanted to let it happen. I completely disagree, but if I was going to make it, that's what I would lean on. 100% would be him worried that the culmination of the Death Star would lead to Tarkin solidifying his role in terms of being more important than Vader. Yeah, grand scheme of things. Right. That it's no longer about his abilities in the Force to command or destroy people. It would now just be, hey, you know, the Emperor would call up Tarkin, be like, hey, I need you to destroy this entire planet. Like, okay, well, Vader's kind of obsolete at this point. He doesn't really do anything. So he'd be like out of a job. In the sense he doesn't even care about a job, he'd be out of favoritment so that, well, we could go even further, so that then the Emperor wouldn't need him, so he wouldn't teach him how to save Padme if he wanted to go really far and make it up. Well, that ship has sailed. Yeah. He ain't saving Padme in a new hope. No. No. So that probably wasn't too much of a factor, but no, I think that, I think he was trying to stop it the entire time and I think he was doing his damnedest to stop everything that happened. And I don't think so. I think really. No, I don't. I never thought so. He's so effective. All right, hold on. So you never thought so. With the first time you watched Star Wars, Episode 4, you didn't think that Vader, you thought Vader wanted the Death Star to be destroyed? No. When I watched Episode 4, I didn't really understand anything because I was a kid, six years old, but then as I started to watch more and more and more and then when I watched Rogue One, that's when I really started to kind of understand. But even, you know what? No, in Episode 4, I remember he was jealous of the Death Star. That's what I felt, that he was like, don't ever think that this weapon is going to be more powerful than what I could do. I just, I don't see how that translates into he'd be fine with the Death Star being destroyed and then what we see of him in the film, he didn't even have to go out there, but he did. Right. He did. He did to make it look like he was doing something so that the Emperor would be happy with him. But if he really wanted, if he really wanted, man, he would have just taken his lights over, thrown it through the room, just killed everyone. They were all been like in 50 million pieces, then he would just retracted the receipt, retrieved the plans. Easy done. He could have blown that whole door open. Are you kidding me? No way. He could have just like, what he did in Revenge of the Sith. That's why it's a bad scene in Rogue One. Yes. Okay, but this is what I do though. Like in my videos, I basically like look at the way they write things and I try to make sense of it. So I mean, there's no way that they would write this that stupidly. Right. So if Vader really wants to go ham, he's just going to actually like crush every single person, just like he did in Revenge of the Sith when he found out Padme was dead. He crushed the room. In fact, in the concept art, he was supposed to create a whirlwind that like pushed Sidious back and destroyed the whole room, but they tapered it down for whatever reason. So he could have done the exact same thing if he really wanted to and like crushed everyone's bones and then just retrieved the plans, but he didn't. He was just toying around with it. I completely disagree with probably both of you. I actually hate excessive force power. I thought that Star Killer bringing down that Star Destroyer was cringe as fuck. I think it's so dope. To be fair, he was just helping guide it as it was crashing. Whatever, you know what I'm getting at. Like with the name of power in the OT from Vader that would support that he could like annihilate a ship, for example. Well, it's not in the OT. You got to go exactly you. That's exactly what I'm saying. Well, I think when you get into prequels, even like when you get into prequels and you start seeing say the fight between Dooku and Yoda and you start seeing the amount of mass that they can move at a given moment and things like that. And you start seeing like the true destructive power. You don't even have to go. Who are you thinking about in prequels? Then give me an example. Yoda and Dooku. Yeah, Yoda and Dooku with their duel. I mean, Sidious. But I'm just bringing up. Yeah. I'm just bringing up like one specific scene from confused. Well, I thought we were all on the same page when Ray did it. We were like, Holy shit, she just outplayed Yoda. Like that's how excessive they've gotten. But now it seems like you guys are saying that no, that's the kind of power that Jedi have. Well, Ray with what? When she removed all the boulders, she did what was like 10 times what Yoda did and Yoda had trouble with it. Yeah, but she shouldn't be able to even do that. Yoda's been training for fucking 900 years and he's got a higher mid-chlorine count than anyone in history other than Anakin Skywalker. Rayne's been training for, not even training. She should be fucking someone told her about the Force and she all of a sudden downloaded all the schematics, like the Matrix to be able to use all these abilities. And she was never fucking trained to do. So to clarify, it wasn't that she needed more training. It wasn't at all that you guys, you guys didn't think that outclasses like, you think Vader could have done that or Yoda? I think the boulders? I think that Anakin could have done something like that. Do you remember how many she moved and how big they are? I have no problem. No problem. I think Anakin literally has a problem moving them to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. And he's 900 then too. He has no problem. I mean, that thing was freaking way bigger than any of those boulders. Poor boy is good as little grunts. That shaft was way bigger than any of those... The rocks too. He goes... He's not going to be able to do that and say like run a marathon and lightsaber will do it at the same time. He has to focus on it. Yeah, that's not what I'm pushing for. I'm saying that there's nothing we're shown in the prequels of the OT that gets the point of excessiveness that blows up starships with the force powers. In terms of blows up starships, in terms of like force lightning, ray or whatever. You want to get close? Oh well. He hasn't seen any of Clone Wars. I mean... But this is... I'm going to take issue with stuff like that when it happens because as far as I'm concerned, rules are set in OT and prequels of power levels and I fucking hate it when they go further and further and further. It diminishes all the past. It diminishes all the interactions that it has since before. To be fair, the 2D Clone Wars that we're supposed to watch happened in 2002 and that was before the prequels. That was before episode five. And there were some crazy-ass powers in there. There were crazy-ass powers. I will also say when it comes to that, due to the stylization of it, due to the stylization of the Tartakowsky Clone Wars, I think you can justify that some of that stuff is more outrageous than it would be in live action, if that makes sense. Yeah, I agree. Like that's kind of how I view it. But I mean, let's pull up the racing right now. Let's look at it. All right. Sure. I mean, in 3D Clone Wars, Maul did that with a ship as well. The ship thing, when we now start to see a bunch of people like holding ships back from taking off and everything, it's getting like... Well, this is where I'm coming from, where you said he could have done that in A New Hope. He was like, no, he couldn't. As far as I'm concerned, that's out of the cards. Dolphine had to come grab ships while he's in ships. You know what? He could have done that with the Millennium Falcon. No. He could have. He should have. I draw a line before I feel like this is damaging Star Wars if you allow moves like that, so it makes everyone stupid. What? Hey, we got it in the Kenobi show. He did it with that ship. I fucking hate the Kenobi show. It's your favorite. Yeah, well. So, you're arguing about Vader and the Death Star. He truly, I truly believe that he felt like it outshined him and it just made him look inferior. And so he secretly hated it. I never got the impression he hated the Death Star. I could kind of like see that. I don't think he hates the Death Star. I think he just hates the potential threat to his pecking order. But I don't in any way support the theory that he was allowing the plans to get away and that he wanted it to get destroyed. I completely reject that wholeheartedly in every way. I think we'll make it interesting. He didn't want to be, you know, he wanted to be the Emperor's Batman. He wanted to be Numero Uno. Also, the other thing, Ryan, when you, the expression on Ray's face, like it's barely affected her at all. Yeah, exactly. Like to me, I think that, you know. It is a lot of boulders. It's a lot of boulders. But like, I think that in the right scenario, you could see Anakin Skywalker doing this. Yeah, of course you could. Like, I don't think we could just keep it muted. Keep it muted. We don't need to play it. Like, this is it. Oh, OK. You know what I mean? Yeah, you can do it with screenshots. Good screenshots when they draw, when Finn goes to hug her. So you can see the size we're dealing with, because the scale is much more clear. How do you guys remember this? I don't know. This is the thing. She's just like, she's smiling. Yeah. Theory, this film launched my channel. Oh, OK. Well, I didn't get a detail. Oh, geez, you're in their number one fan. Yeah, like, here's like the boulders in the background. Again, it's a lot of fucking boulders, clearly. I think it's just a file to say. I think Anakin Skywalker could do that. Yeah, that's nothing compared to what Yota did in the Senate Chamber, man, with those freaking hurling, twisting, revolving pods, man. No way. These boulders will put together way more heavy and way more mass than the pods. Yeah, but to be able to harness the level of force concentration, let's say, that Yota had to do while jumping and using the force. Like, if your force is like a meter, right? If you're using the force to like jump, protect yourself, use force, speed, block freaking attacks from Palpatine, while like simultaneously like stopping this thing and spinning it and then hurling it back. I mean, like, that's good. You're using way more of the force than Rey ever could. This is where I mean, like, I feel like I'm a different kind of Star Wars fan. This is why it's probably gonna work out this fucking podcast. When I watch Empire and I see Yota and I'm like, what a ridiculous little goblin man. And then he is able to translate to us so thoroughly what's so important about a warrior, about like a Paladin type mage, sorry, sage type preacher that is so intelligent and attuned and you're like, you shouldn't be about judging what they look like and all that stuff. And like a huge payoff for his power and understanding is very carefully and slowly lifting the X-wing and moving it slightly over. What a fucking magical scene and it lands. And he's tired. He's pretty exhausted from that because that's an amazing thing that he just did. I don't want to see in future Yota grabs another sky and crushes it with his fist and explodes. And he's like, fuck yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The force to me, as soon as we get more and more excessive, I think it creates those moments where the fan base will go fucking nuts and even I'll enjoy a lot of them as well. But then I'm like, oh shit. What did we just do though? What did we do to the power scaling? I totally hear that. What's your take on size matters not? You think you're just talking about his dick or what? Absolutely. Okay, but also, Yota does die like three years after that. So he's pretty old. That was actually what did it. That was like a long, if he out forced himself, like Luke did. I mean, the fucking thing is, like as far as I'm concerned, the most powerful you probably are with the force is going to be the older you are. Like the more wouldn't surprise me anyway. But you know what, I mean, yeah. But you know, you compare Yota in Revenge of the Sith when he was going ham on the clone troopers when they were trying to get back into the temple with him and Obi-Wan. And he's just like freaking jumping, like throwing his lightsaber through the chest of one clone. Like one of my favorite levels in the Revenge of the Sith video game is when you get that, like when you when you're Obi-Wan and Yota getting back into the Jedi temple. What I saw that moment, the theories referred to, I would be like, finally, a lightsaber throw. Fuck, yes. Like one of the coolest ones ever. It's like, there you go. I actually saw, I think it was a side show collectible of that, that literal moment where Yota's like, got his saber thrusted through a 501st. Pretty cool. We've got a Gary in chat. I'm pretty sure he just outright despises the prequels. He should be here. Does he? I didn't know that. Well, I don't know if he would say that. He might. I think he would say I didn't like them, but I don't think he would say despises. Honestly, I think part of what his reasoning would be would be what I was just describing. I think he took the OT that way and he'd see the prequels. Like, do you remember the conversations about like jumping around too many lightsabers, too much force use? It's diminishing the mystical sense of it. So, you know, this is what I mean. It's like little of the schools of thought on this. My argument towards that is, well, the only sort of lightsaber fights we saw were Vader toying with his son and Luke who like just got a lightsaber recently and doesn't really know how to even use the force or use it. So it's like, we got two people that aren't even trying to show their full capabilities in the force at all. So versus the prequel trilogy, which was like the highlight era of everything. Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm of two minds because I think that the prequel era, that an era where the Jedi were in full power is incredibly interesting to explore and we will see a lot of Jedi as a result of that, obviously. Yeah, I agree. What do you think about the acolyte? You think that's going to be peak Jedi? Oh, man. Dude, they changed it now to 50 years before the Phantom Menace. I always thought it was 200 years. So I'm going to have a big problem with this because the Plagueis, I mean, is so prevalent at this time. So High Republic takes place like 200 years or something, right? But this is, the acolyte's always been pushed as the end of the High Republic era moving into kind of close to Phantom Menace. So it makes sense that it's 50 years. And they're going to make Plagueis a chick. Do you think they're even going to mention him? I don't know how you... I feel like they'll pull that card eventually, surely. I would say I don't know how they couldn't, but this is Disney Star Wars. So I don't know. And it's close to the headland. I also don't know how much the Plagueis book is not current canon. They got rid of it. So I don't even actually know what the deal is. In terms of Plagueis, in terms of that time frame, in terms of what happens with him, I don't know in modern Disney canon what it even means. So maybe they have got free reign to do a lot of stuff. Maybe. Maybe. Who knows? I did read that one. Yeah, yeah. That took us down a 30-minute tangent. Yeah, literally. So how much do we have to pay to see Theory or Ryan go full on a full synthetic man meltdown? You're not going to get that from them because they don't have his fucking views. You just have to give up. Oh, that's a guy, the guy, right? I still haven't searched him up. I don't know who synthetic man is. Let's just say he outclasses the both of you significantly for a controversial statement, so a bit of that way. Nice. Even me? Times 10, Ryan. You wouldn't even come close. Really? You know, I'm a game. What is he like, does he get as clipped as us? Oh, probably. Anybody pretty much doesn't incident of any kind of level of fame, especially of any kind of level of developing people who hate them. But we covered him on EFAP. He has opinions that I hesitate to share. I was a little bit spicy. Got to be careful. But let's just put it this way. I'm fine, especially if I was in control of YouTube for everybody to be here. It would be pretty extreme you'd have to be for me to think that it's worth banning or other. I have no idea how he's still going with some of the stuff that he said. But hey, you know, best of luck. Sounds like I need to subscribe. You know what, you go right ahead. If anyone wants to know specifically what I'm talking about, we covered about EFAP 217, I think. Check out the last hour. That's where you'll find the stuff I'm talking about. We have to be in the video game market by continuously canceling games and other than Jedi only release meh games. Seems legit. Yesterday was my birthday. Happy birthday, geek adventure team. Bought a saber from you to treat myself. Thank you, dude. Keep on being you, brother. Thank you so much. I appreciate it and happy birthday. And I hope you enjoy the saber when it ships out. Oh, yeah. Canceling Star Wars 1313 and the Darth Maul game was a crime. Yeah, that Maul game looked pretty sweet. Did you guys see that? 1313 was like, I was so hyped for that. Erion Mauler, are you familiar at all with the Star Wars Galaxy of Fear books? Short reads, but well done. Spore is my favorite of these. I'm not, no. No. Are you? Yeah, Galaxy of Fear. Again, it's like a young adult novels. Got it. You know what I mean? So they're out there. Darth Demos 26. Imagine they remastered the old Star Wars games while they developed new games for the next three to five years. So there's time to make good game while playing some. Yeah, I mean, there's obviously many different business models that they could try and practice, but for some reason, they're not. Subarassi, how would you guys feel about bringing Iron Man back? Boo. Yeah. I don't bring anybody back, man. Don't kill people and bring them back. You know, that's tough. I'm not really interested in anybody. Wait, are you being serious? Yeah, being serious. What, Thanos? If I just told you that Asajj Ventress came back from the dead, you'd fucking like come because you want her in Ahsoka. What are you talking about? I just think she's much better than Riva. Yeah, but what am I asking about? Is that specific question? Right, I'm just fucking erroring out here. Right. We're never going to get a good female character other than, and Ahsoka's probably the best we're going to get. So if we can get like some sort of something close, like Talon or freakin' Asajj, already established characters from before Disney fucked up everything. What do you think is going to happen when they come back? Yeah, like, doesn't matter. Like, guess what? Like, Han Solo is an established character before Disney took over. It's like, what do you mean? Whether or not they're established, they'll get ruined. Like, new character, old character, doesn't matter. Most people, the general advice is don't bring back the old ones because it hurts more when you destroy them. I'm still hopeful. I'm hopeful someone there has a brain, you know? Well, then if you're hopeful that someone still has a brain, why do we need to bring back anybody? Just make good characters, right? Well, they're not going to do that. Because they need, they need, they need some pre-established lore to kind of like, oh, okay, this is where the character kind of goes. And then if they veer off it, it's like fucked up, but it's not as fucked up as they create like a new character which fucks everything up like Riva. I disagree. I think that it's far worse when they're taking characters that are already established and they fucking destroy them. Guess what? I would rather have had an Obi-Wan Kenobi series that was made by the same team of writers, the same incompetency, that did not involve Obi-Wan Kenobi or Darth Vader. Yeah, like if the main character was- Because it would do less damage to Star Wars. Yeah, if it was like Jimbo Kabab or something with the main character and you had to take around some girl called Yolub. Yolanda. Yeah, I mean it would be like, who cares? Yeah, Jimbo Kabab. What? But it would still take place on Tatooine, just to be clear. Obviously Tatooine, fuck it all, yeah. Rest in Peace, Cad Benulim. Yeah. What's your guys' opinions on the Gears of War franchise and which game was your favorite? The first one was my first and second, I'd say. Pretty good. Anything after that that's kind of just- Once Blazinski got out of there, man, it just kind of went downhill. Gears of War 2 was my baby. I played that shit ton online. I was never super into Gears. I only played in other people's houses, so. I played one and two, but don't really have a- Yeah, those were the best. Will Mahler read the Thrawn trilogy, aka the real sequel? Probably not. Probably not. That's to be real. So we're trying to convince him to watch a cartoon. Let's hold off on reading for a little bit. I don't even know how to do that. An audio bucket, if you want. Do they still make books? Do they write stuff these days? They do. Man. You know what I heard? Video games is apparently a thing that people play. I've heard the young-ins, the youngsters. Yeah, they really do. They start to get into video games. I guess we, as Disney, it's our duty to be in that space. What an old piece of shit. What an old thing to say. What an old. Like, just look at Bob Iger. What an old. Like, how can you actually say that? You know, I was really surprised when I looked into what Gen Z and even millennials are spending their screen time on and over half of it was video games. Do you guys know about the mobile phone? Oh my god, dude. Literally, that's what it sounds like. Happy early Valentine's Day, guys. Great, thanks. Have any of you seen the movie Love and Monsters? Great character journey for the main protagonist and lots of monsters? No. I've not seen this. Happy Valentine's Day, bro. Talk to you episode called Love and Monsters. This is excellent, I recommend it. Her name's Ruby, so I assume it's a female. I don't know. Oh, okay. Happy Valentine's Day. It's a boy named Ruby. I can only hope Deadpool kills the MCU like he did in the comics. That would be a great way to reset. He knows the matter. So, oh shit, he did kill the MCU, didn't he? Yeah, I made a video about that like five months ago or something. It's like, this is how they could save Marvel, but they won't. They wouldn't even save Marvel. It would just be, we'd feel like the one film isn't on the joke that everything just sucks. Well, this is what I prefaced, and they won't do it, but you basically make the entire thing into a meme, shitting all over multiverses, and Deadpool goes and kills, he kills She-Hulk. He kills Black Captain America. He literally kills every single character in our current iteration, the MCU. And when you pop out, like this new multiverse has a completely recasted, a completely recasted Avengers team, a fully casted X-Men team, and a fully cast Fantastic Four team, and you basically reboot the MCU. Now, that's no, that's no guarantee that it would be good or anything like that. But if you actually wanted to move forward without all the baggage that you've created for yourself in this universe, that is something you could realistically do. And I think people would be on board with it and it'd be done in a funny way. Yeah, I remember when he was looking at the TVA stuff, he was like literally watching Avengers. What do you say, Mark? Is he going to go back in time on that? Dude, the amount of shit they've stolen from Avengers, specifically the 2012 movie, and all these layer projects like quotes and characters and stuff and timelines, references that we'll go back to, because it really is where the MCU was fully launched. It's so sad to look back and be like, yeah, we ain't getting there again. As for the movie of him killing the MCU, concept and idea and stuff, it'd be cool, but then it's like we need to worry about who's writing it, and whether or not they do it well. And then your idea of launching a bunch of teams after it, it's just like, we're so far away from them ever entertaining, doing anything like that. It's a cool idea, but it's just as far out of the realm of possibility as fucking decanonizing the sequels, it's just never going to happen. It's why I think the title of my video is Deadpool 3 could save the MCU, but they won't do it or something like that. Because yeah, they'll never admit to that type of failure when you virtue signal about all these different characters that you're so proud of and all this, you can't then erase them, which is a problem when they're failures. What up, Gary? Oh, he's talking about Love and Monsters. He means to say bad movie, and the Doctor Who episode is amazing, and he fully recommends it. Gary, sorry, you caught me like a deer in headlights when I saw you there. During the meetup, he comes in, he's like, hey, I shook his hand, he's off in the corner, he's like, I'm just staring at him, I can't fucking say anything, it's the first time I've seen him. Well, hey, you like putting people on the spot, we should... I'm leaving. I'm like, oh, yeah, come here, dude. Let's take a photo. It was, what did you say? We should invite him to the next week's Star Gryft. Yeah, absolutely. Come on, do it right now. If he doesn't answer, he's a coward. We should put it that way. Let's just screw all of the previous MCU. Oh, this doesn't mean, if we were to actually fix it, it's all decanonized. Decanonized phase four and five. Get rid of it all. Get rid of Endgame, man. Redo it. Get us, as Thierry was pointing out, right? Like he wants to see Thanos come back, because what we got was like lame soy Thanos. And it's like, I completely agree. We should have fucking cool Thanos, but redo Endgame. Just redo it. Redo fucking Game of Thrones season eight. Redo Star Wars sequel trilogy. Redo them. Normalize this shit. Why do we never entertain the idea that we can do it again? I'm more of a proponent of just stop for like five years. Well, both. Yeah. And it's like start fresh while decanonizing it. You know what I mean? Like take a five year break from Star Wars. Everything that happens since George Sinon, the dotted line is erased. I don't give a fuck if you like Star Wars Rebels or whatever. It gets yeeted from existence. That's the only way to do it the right way. Go back to the purchase date and erase everything. Start from 2012. These guys got it. I'm in a car. I don't know what that means. I think a car is like wheels. I know that. But I don't know what these guys got. It means the engine. Been a weird couple weeks. Lost my job. Can always rely on theory to cheer things up. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Andy Bay. When one door closes, another one will open in time. Ops on Obi-Wan season two. Ray or Padme for a wife. Padme, obviously. I mean, oh yeah. Thorosna is Padme, yeah. My opinion on Obi-Wan season two is I think it's ironic that after Ewan was kind of used by Star Wars and Lucasfilm to attack a fan base and label everyone as racist just because he didn't like a character who is like the fourth or fifth, you know, biggest problem in a terrible Obi-Wan Kenobi series. And you try to blame the fans for all that backlash to cover up for your dog shit show that you put out. It's ironic that now he's begging those very same fans to ask Disney for a season two of Kenobi. I find that ironic. I saw it like he was targeting the people who were being racist. Do you really think that all that because of two Instagram DMs? Two. Bro, it's probably way more than two. Oh, we saw two. So, and I can tell you that I get way more than that at a daily fucking basis for whatever reason. Right, so you really think that two Instagram DMs. But no one cares about it. It's worth, you really think that two Instagram DMs is worth basically the full might of the entire mainstream media, all of Lucasfilm, all of Star Wars, every star out there basically saying it's not right. We all need to stand up for this because of two fucking Instagram DMs that we actually saw. It was probably much more than two. I'll say it was probably like hundreds, most likely. Okay, do you get hate ever for things that people don't like about you, Thierry? My God, every day. You kidding? You know, you know that. Yeah, because you're putting something out there and people are judging you. What was done with Obi-Wan Kenobi clearly was a PR attempt to justify all the bad shit that people were saying about the show and make it into this is the problem. It's obviously just racist and bigots out there. Oh, I don't deny that. That's all the noise. And that's what I mean. I don't I don't like that's what Lucasfilm took part in. I got you and McGregor wrapped up and all of that. That's what they try to do. There's three episodes in. What did they say? They told Moses Zingram before it even happened. There's a lot of racists out there. They're not going to like you and we're going to blame it all on them. They told her that she admitted it flat out in interviews. So I think it's ironic that after trying to label a certain section of Star Wars fans as racist because they didn't like a certain character that you're now begging those very same fans, you said aren't Star Wars fans to beg Disney. I don't think he's begging those exact fans. I think he was addressing the people who were assholes. Obviously that were racist pricks. But the people who are just Star Wars fans in general that want to see a season two. I think he's just addressing those. I wouldn't say these. He's trying to ask those same exact people. That was like maybe what like a thousand people probably. I mean, there's millions of us that are actually just Star Wars fans want to see the show. I just couldn't believe the status fucking Star Wars. The Ewan McGregor has to beg fans to tell Disney that we want more of his Obi-Wan. Well, it's because they wrote the shittiest fucking show. That's unreal. Like if they wrote a good show, then nobody would have to ask anybody anything, right? That's the thing. The numbers would speak for themselves. Yeah, it shouldn't be the case. Like if five years ago you said that Ewan McGregor who plays Obi-Wan Kenobi is like desperate to do an Obi-Wan Kenobi series for Lucasfilm. The idea of them saying no or turning it down or whatever would be a little bit wild even five years ago. Dude, it's so stupid. I agree. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, Obi-Wan show is literally probably going to make them more money than any other show that they could ever make. They just have to do it right. Well, I think it's a good thing that they don't make one. I think it's a good thing, too. Because they wouldn't do it right, though, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But I mean, you get three of us to write it. We'll probably do a great job. Or Jon Favreau to write it. He'll probably do a great job. Mando Season 3, anyone? I truly think that Mando Season 3 was a product of him just being like, fuck this, you guys do it. Because they were just getting two in his hair. I just don't think that that dude would let that happen to that show. I think there were way too many cooks in the kitchen and Kathy probably just like pushing for this and that and this person pushing for this and that. And they just went with some like bullshit script. Book of Boba Fett, the whole reason they did that show from what I've heard is simply to have Grogu come back. I think he's saying that like it's bad because they weren't focused on the correct things, but we hope in future they will be. Right. I feel like just watching it, you see all the connective tissue for any different thing they wanted to do. It was horrifically done, like hyper incompetence. It wasn't just that they're trying to get Grogu back in, but Book of Boba Fett was bad well before that even happened. Yeah, it was shit. Well, I mean, the first two episodes I really liked. And I'm like, what was the last time you watched them? When it came out? That's right. I mean, like, all right, just fucking terrible. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I will say, I think that one of the causes potentially for maybe some of the rushed job with a lot of it specifically, Ma, you know this about the Boba Fett episode of season two of Mandalorian and how quickly they like forced him in there. I do think a lot of people felt that Pedro was going to leave the show and that they wanted a backup, a stand in like to shift to focus on Boba Fett. And that's why he was in that show to begin with. Yeah, that's probably why he got a standalone show. So if you want to argue about maybe rushed job and no reason for this, I think there's some like arguments to be made. But in the season three, it was Favro's idea to bring in Lizzo to that thing like that. What? Yes, that's his idea. He's been open about that because the kids saw Lizzo like do some Star Wars thing on TikTok. What? Yes. This Favro, the man who did the Jungle Book and the live action Lion King, that Favro, yes. And I again, personally, I do think that three is a step down from two, but I don't think it's as big as people make it out to be. I think the difference is the jangling keys that you have in season three of Mandalorian are Jack, Black and Lizzo instead of Ahsoka and Bo Katon and Boba Fett and all these like characters that people like care more about Luke Skywalker, like those were the jangling keys distracting people from the bad writing in season two. And there wasn't as the keys were very dull and not very shiny in season three. Yeah, dude, it's bullshit. I don't even know what the hell happened there. It was just like, it just seems like these shows are now focusing on completely other characters, like maybe supporting characters. So like Boba focuses on Mando, Mando now focuses on Bo. Mando focuses on Bo and Obi-Wan focuses on Riva. It's weird. It's like it's kind of at this point, like if we're going to get a Vader show, it's going to probably focus on like, I don't know, Mon Mothma or something like that. Who knows? Oh, hey, hold out hope for Jimbo Kabab. He might be in it. Jimbo Kabab. Yeah. So somebody asked me a question really quick. Do you have proof for your claims about fucking John Favreau and Lizzo? Yes, of course I do. You share this real quick. John Favreau reveals story behind Lizzo getting cast. Kids actually were showing me on social media that Lizzo was posting a lot of stuff around. It would be like, dad, doing all these baby Yoda videos. We're like, we could do something really cool and interesting and wouldn't it be great to be working with somebody who's really cool and interested to be working with Grogu? So yes, there you go. John Favreau. It was John Favreau's idea. Not everything bad that happens in Star Wars because of Kathleen Kennedy. Oh, that's news to me. Fuck. I'm here to take away everyone's hope. I was going to say, well, no, we're both spirit drainers. We'll get him. We'll kill him. Don't worry, Ryan. I was also going to say, this is a depressing Star Wars podcast. Like, well, until Star Wars is fucking uplifting, it's going to be depressing. Oh, that shaft is way bigger than pauses. Do you realize is the clips are going to be made? I didn't do that. Best version of Force Unleashed PS3 or PS2? Well, I don't know the difference. Fuck, I'm trying to remember the differences because I know that it was crazy. They had like the whole PSP vision as well. That was a crazy time for video games. Do you guys see the new the new PlayStation thing that you said is PSP, the new handheld? I forgot what I was going to say. No, I didn't. Oh, dude. Ryan, you seen this? I don't know. I don't think it's awesome. Does Ryan hit a video game? A new PlayStation portable? Yeah, dude. It looks amazing. All right. What's amazing about it? I don't know. Just looks cool, man. Oh, is it the one that like goes between like that it looks like it's between a PS5 controller? Yeah, talking about. Yes, I did see like a screenshot, but I don't know how much they are. Anything. I think they're 300 bucks. They are. Yeah, PlayStation portal remote player. Yeah, it looks really cool. You can like play every game on it and it looks just as good. Well, I think just as good as a PS5. Here, let me share the screens. You guys can see this. Here you go. And get it a Walmart. Wow. Yeah, we're not sponsored. I wish. We need to start getting sponsorships, man. I'm down. I'm well known for people really want to be in business with me. Yeah, me too. And Mauler, we can plug our own shit. Ryan, do you have merch or something? Not really. You can go to my website. I got merch on my website, RKOPOS.com. But I haven't really. You don't have anything you plug? Not really. Only my channel and stuff. And yeah, I need to get on it. You guys go. All right. And we got it. We got to be better at building that brand, you know. Yeah. Listen, I'm here to play games, watch films and chat. Yeah, take over every podcast. That too. Yeah. It's work in progress. Yeah, I'm pretty good. I think after Bloodraven took Dark Sister North of the Wall, it's only right. John gets it and fights young Griff with it. Blackfyre versus Dark Sister would be cool. Who are these people? Yeah, so they're talking about Song Ice and Fire. Yeah, so I don't know what's going on with Dark Sister. We don't know what's going on with Dark Sister. The idea, a lot of people think that young Griff will get Blackfyre at some point. But I don't I don't fucking know, man. Like, I think that I don't think we need John to have Dark Sister. I think it's OK if he doesn't have it. I think it's funny that the guy was like, I want to talk some Song of Ice and Fire today. He's already got a fucking sick Valerian Seal blade. Oh, did I? If you don't remove Mauler and Ryan from the stream right now, me and a handful of others will also unsubscribe. Thank you, Lewis. I think I think we've lost the actual one. I'll do you one. So, Ryan, how about that new Jimbo Kabab show? Jimbo Kabab and the Ghost of Tatooine. It was such a good title. And they came through. Luke to die when he didn't pull him back up when he attempted to self-delete. But yeah, he can pull ships down. Ray Clips should be flagged for this. I think he knew Luke would be all right. See, this is the thing. See and Mauler see things that happen and we're like, wow, it's kind of silly that you would write it this way. And Thierry's like, well, you know what? I'm going to make these terrible writers work by making it make sense in my brain. Because I love the French. You know what I am? I'm like, what's that shit called? I just used it the other day. You know when you have like a hole in a wall and you like put the thing over it and you put the putty over it? You're like that great. You're like that great that like holds it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. It's like, hey, this big hole in the wall. Yeah, I got an explanation for it. It was never there. It just helps me sleep at night. You know, you're just trying to patch up the drywall. I'm coping. I'm using my my creativity to cope. Although I love the concept of pulling a starter story out of the air. The force has to be capped or have restrictions. Otherwise it becomes outrageous. You don't want to any cap. There has to be a. No, I don't want to have no, there has to be. If you are going to do extraordinary feats, there must be a like something that happens because of that, right? Whether that's getting too tired or whatever it is, right? Something has to happen as a ramification of doing like an incredibly powerful thing. Yeah, you can get tired. Right. For instance, there's a there's a pretty cool thing that Luke does in the New Jedi Order books where basically there's Yu Zhongvang used biotech and they essentially have a creature called a Doven Basal that generates kind of many, many gravity wells, many black holes and stuff. They used to propel their ships, but they also used to absorb, you know, incoming fire. And what Luke does, he's essentially able to like control that it's really hard for me as to concentrate. He can't fly anything, just sit there and meditate. He's able to basically control that and push it so it folds in on itself and destroys that entire ship. But after he does it, it uses such an immense amount of force for in concentration that he actually fucking passes out. And they like show that in the book. So that's like an incredible feat that he performs and there's a there's a price to pay for it. He couldn't just go through and do that a million times. He would pay the price. Have you read the Star Wars Jedi Academy Obi-Wan books? I have not. Have you? The Jedi Academy Obi-Wan books. Do you mean Jedi apprentice books? Is that what you mean? If you mean the Jedi apprentice novels, I've read the fuck out of those. Theory love everything you do. Keep up the good work. Mauler understands the force is more powerful than just forcing people to believe lies and choking people, right? Um, no, I don't. That's the only thing you can do with the force is force choke. All right, they have it. Bring in Darth Melvin. I need to laugh there. I saw Melvin at the convention. He was walking around. I even tagged him in it in the vlog. Let's keep it going. Should Disney bring Luke back? Huh. Vicks Vels into Dedra, Mon, etc. Are the best girls? Oh, no. No. All the Andorra girls. Is there any news on the Rogue Squadron movie or is that dead in the water? I'd love for that to happen. It was one of the best games on N64. It's dead. It's dead, Jim. Yeah, no one complained when Patty Jenkins was making her movie. That's because she hadn't come out with Wonder Woman 84 yet. And she didn't make stupid ass claims. Correct. That was when Patty Jenkins was introduced. She told this really cool story about her dad being a fighter pilot and how she always wanted to do kind of a dogfighting fighter pilot movie but can never really find a way to make it work. But she always loved Star Wars. Now she's able to tell a story combining two things that she loves and she's going to do a Rogue Squadron movie. Everybody was down with that because it's like, OK, we've seen Patty Jenkins do a couple of things. She did Wonder Woman, which obviously Malor has problems with, but overall, there's a pretty good sentiment out there about Wonder Woman. Not like it's a masterpiece or anything, but it's that most people think it's a decent movie. Chris Pine carries that movie hot. 84? I like Chris Pine. No, just the main Wonder Woman movie. I like Chris Pine as well. But there was no backlash for a woman directing Star Wars because it was just portrayed as somebody who was passionate about making this, who was passionate about Star Wars and wanted to make a movie. That's fucking cool. Awesome. Yeah. Now, I will say, if this announcement had been in the aftermath of the disastrous Wonder Woman 1984, there probably would have been more backlash to Patty Jenkins, not because she's a woman, but because she had just come out with a fucking horrible movie where she was not just the director, but was in charge of everything. So I do think there would have been pushback. Well, we've kind of seen this with Taika Waititi. Once upon a time, I think people would have been OK with it, but after Love and Thunder, after even some of the stuff he's just said, it's like nobody wants him near Star Wars now. Yeah. Did Vader feel the same way about the second Death Star? Bro, you probably felt the same way about all of them. Hade that shit. The third and the fourth one, too, but I think. Even the fifth. The ninth. Exegol. Love of the Vids theory. What did you know in the comics he knew about Exegol? Never told Luke. Yeah. 100 percent he did. He went there. That's established technically by Rise of Skywalker. Because that's where Kylo gets the thing, is from Vader. Fucking dumb. Did you ever going to tell Luke? Do a theory. And this is this is what I mean. Now that you have Anakin appearing in the Ahsoka series to Ahsoka to give her some last fucking training, last match or whatever, you can't fucking do that to Luke Skywalker and remind about fucking Exegol. This is the fucking problem when you continue to bring these characters back over and over again for these little bullshit things. Not for what they actually should be doing. Well, Luke has to die for that to happen. It increasingly makes like so little sense. He means to visit Luke. Yeah. Force ghost him. That's what I'm talking about. Force ghost him. Or why don't you pull Luke Skywalker in the world between worlds? Cock sucker. You don't care about your fucking kid? I know, bro. I know. Love the Vids. What are your guys thoughts on an old Republic trilogy? Yeah, sweet. There's not much in Star Wars. I'm not okay with exploring if it's done well. Disney will continue to- Oh, I'm sorry. No, that's it. He paused and I jumped in. I'm sorry. Disney will continue to suffer if Deadpool doesn't kill the MCU and shut down everything without a full reboot and admitting failure in Lucasfilm. They ain't doing that. Jesus. At this point, the writer doesn't matter as much as usual. Nothing gets better until DEI is removed. I'm hoping. Who's DEI? Diversity, equity, and inclusion standards. Got it. Let's say you have to hire this amount of people and check this many boxes for not just who's in front of the camera but also who's behind the camera, who's in the writer's room, all that stuff. Right. Right. Well, we should have a- Let's just focus on story. Fuckin... The donating to Ryan's therapy fund after the psychic damage he took from reading Josh Brolin's poetry. Josh Brolin's written poetry? Yeah, Josh Brolin wrote poetry about his co-stars in Dune and he has one about Timothy Shalamate that makes it sound like he wants to fuck him. What? You guys didn't know about this? No, man. No. All right. Well, let me pull something up and educate y'all real quick. It's poetry. It's probably just romanticized. Yeah, but it's a 55-year-old man romanticizing a 25-year-old man. Which, hey, go for it, I guess. I would feel weird if my 55-year-old co-worker, my male 55-year-old co-worker came and said this to me. But maybe it's out of love. Who knows? Let's see. What's it about? Josh Brolin wrote a poem about Timothy Shalamate on the set of Dune Part Two for a book. He and the cinematographer are releasing. This is about Timothy. I'll read it if you want. Please, may I go? Your face is etched by adolescence. Your cheekbones jump toward what our youth laid in eyes that slide down a prominent nose and onto lips of a certain poetry and the way you hold my gaze makes me fear my own age. Because something in me tells me you're going to offer me something and for now, I'm not sure it's going to be something I want anymore. That's pretty gay. What? This is for a book? Sounds homoerotic a little bit. It sounds to me like he's afraid of how much he wants to fuck Timothy Shalamate. Is there any other way to interpret it? Hey, man, I'm all for people loving who they want to love. But yeah, that's pretty homoerotic. Well, I mean, it was more right as it earlier. So let's say we worked on the film and then fucking Ryan wrote this about theory. I'd be like, dude, don't show him. Not only don't show him, don't publish a book about it. Yeah, that's interesting. What are the comments saying? This is incredibly weird. Well, that was weird. Not weird. Well, that's one name of the Epstein list confirmed. Gay. Sus. Josh Brolin is Gurney Halleck. Now, Gurney is a poet. Like, Gurney is a poet. So I get why he wanted to do something like this. Sounds like Timothy is offering Brolin man love and he's unsure if he wants to accept. But years ago, it would have been a yes for sure. What? He didn't like drama and I was fucking Shakespeare. Some things are better off not being shared. This is gayer than sex with another man. Yeah, a lot of stuff like that. Interesting. That's all right. Well, hey, all right. That poetry goes well with a dune popcorn bucket. Yeah. After a false alarm on Theory Talks a couple weeks ago, finally welcomed another youngling last week, only fitting I was in my 66 hoodie and hat. Oh, dude, right on, man. Congratulations. It's amazing. Yeah, check. Can we all get some clapping hand emojis? Excellent. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. You're welcome. Smaller as tentacles, he can't clap. You can hear a good clapping sound. That's what I never show this face. Y'all can say what you want about Book of Boba Fett. Book of Boba Fett? Book of Boba. Fett Theory. Why is there a T? Book of Boba Fett Theory. All right. Mandalorian and Ahsoka, but I think Obi-Wan Kenobi was the biggest sin of the Disney Plus shows, I agree. I don't think it's I think that Book of Boba Fett is like the worst overall product. But I think that the Obi-Wan Kenobi series does way more damage and is more disrespectful to a lot of shit. Yeah, I think I agree with. I kind of agree with the Super Chatter. From my perspective. I agree with your perspective, right? I'm very excited for the What if instead of his name being Anakin, his name was Anakin Freak Walker and he ate. All right. He ate ass and sucked toes. All right. What's your thoughts on Elon Musk for his Disney and maybe buying Disney? Maybe he will save servers. I made a video on it and go check it out. I think. I think he's just memeing. You think Elon's just memeing? Probably, yeah. I think he's just trying to make life hard for Bob Iger because Bob Iger pulled advertisements on Twitter and shit. I really think he's just trying to fuck with him a little bit. That's funny. For the good Lord's sake. Well, exactly now what he's doing with Gina. All right. He probably hates him for the good Lord's sake. Cancel Disney Plus. Was Jean Grey from X-Men just a Sith Lord? Yes. PS2 Wii version of the Force Unleashed is the complete version of the game. PS3 360 version locks half the levels behind DLC and even changes the bosses and story structure. I highly recommend PS2. I didn't know this. I think I knew it at some point, but if I've forgotten it, it's like. All right, no idea. Well, yeah. Who had the most risen Star Wars? My votes, Jar Jar. Three, Lando. Lando's even fucking the droids, so yeah. He makes them circuit overload. Maybe R2-D2. We could ever get like actually, if you got what he's saying, maybe it's R2. I could be. Love the content. Have you seen the new season of Halo series and it's a egregious disregard for the source material? I have not. I'm watching it. It's painful. This is season two? Yeah, yeah. It's out? Not an upgrade yet. Two episodes are out already. Oh, crazy. On what? Paramount Plus. Okay. Apparently his helmet's off even more in this season than it was last season. They have this opening scene where he fights a whole bunch of elites, like one-on-one in a row, and it's like super action packed with the helmet on, and then it's just off for like the rest of the two episodes that are out. You can tell what they were doing. They were like, see, this is what you want, right? Now, watch what I want. Thanks. Have you shared Vader 2 and 3 scripts with Mauler and Ryan to see what they think or do you want to see their reaction? No, I haven't shared. They'll see it when it's out. Hopefully I'll see you guys at the premiere, either in New York or... Yeah, let's do New York. Okay. I don't know. I was thinking LA, but... I don't know. We'll see. Kenobi Hunt of the Chosen One, my FF Disney's Vader vows to get all of the ancient Jedi armor meant for Chosen One. Kenobi Quinlan Voss and Ahsoka must stop him. That's his fan film or his fan fic? It's greater than Disney's trash, he says. Fentham Ennis is my favorite, Justice for Quiro, we dead. There's a rumor that Chaden Christian will be voicing Shadow... Right, I saw this. Do you think you can see him in that role? Absolutely. I love him in that role. Are you kidding me? Be cool. I've seen that a bunch. But I don't know if it's real or if it's people trying to speak it into existence. Hayden's a talented actor, dude. He can do anything. Where do you think in the next game where they would take Cal next? I gotta find a way to fucking kill him somehow. Well, he's dark now. So, you know, he's probably gonna be with Marin. They're probably gonna have a kid or they're gonna train Bode's kid to use the Force and have magic. I think he's gonna find a grown-up Omega from Bad Batch. Yeah, Ryan, some of the poems from Gary. No thanks, those are secret. Oh, of course they are. Who'd they send them to? Ryan, thank you all for getting together. You're navigating a razor's edge all the time. As far as folks' delicate sensibilities just be you. Also, what do you think about the supposed rival of the Star Wars resort? The rival. Revival. Revival. So, people talking about the fact that they might do something with Galaxy's, not Galaxy's Edge. Star Cruiser. The Star Cruiser. I don't know. We'll see. They took a big tax incentive to shut that thing down. So, I think they're gonna not get that tax incentive. They'd use it anyway. I don't know if they're gonna turn, like, I think realistically you could turn it into like a little couple hour experience and it would be cool. I mean, it wouldn't be cool. It'd still be like dumb, stupid, shit. But what I mean is it'd be cooler than being locked in there for 48 hours. I think they're learning. I think they're learning they need to start going back to the OT. They'd have to change all of Galaxy's Edge to do that. They could do it, man. To changing a set. They could do it. Yeah, like right now, I mean, you just went there, but it's the entire thing set on Vaatu or whatever. It doesn't look like Star Wars. It just looks like you're in a random rock formation. Yeah, literally. Yeah. So like it wouldn't take much to turn that into something else. No, just switch it around. You just make all the props and all the environments and everything. And then just like within probably two weeks, they could switch everything out or cover it. I don't know. It shouldn't be difficult. Will there be any scissorings? Okay. We can only hope. When and how will they bring back Mace Windu? Well, I'm doing that. Samuel Jackson said he's down with it. He's down for a Mace Windu Disney Plus series. Expect it to be really underwhelming. That's all I got. Favorite Star Wars spaceship? Mine's the E-Wing and the Republic Consular Class Cruiser. I'm looking to get a saber for my birthday. Are yours durable? Yeah, they're very durable. It depends on which one you get. I mean, obviously, if you get this blade, obviously, this has more of a, you know, this RGB. Sorry, not RGB. SNV-4 or Profi or Xenopixel, something like that. These have electronics inside. Zoom in. So the whole thing is, you know, it can change colors. It can, you know, from here and you get an equal distribution of colors within the blade and brightness. Whereas if you go, let's say, a RGB or, I'm forgetting the name now. But anyways, the other one is a hollow tube, and essentially the light comes from the hilt. And that you can, I mean, you can beat the shit out of that thing and you just have to replace the tube when you want. There's no electronics inside, so it's much more durable. That's baselit. It's called baselit. So you can still duel with either of them. It's just, you know, one's going to be a little more expensive than the other one. It's going to be a little more durable than the other. What's that? That thing I was surprised by was the, like, Medieval. Where it was like a... You like that one? Yeah, yeah. I was really, I was like, what the fuck did it break? I was like, why is it making these noises? I was like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, you can do anything. There's a T-Rex one. Did you get the one with the T-Rex font? I don't think, I think I went through them. I didn't see a T-Rex one, but... Oh fuck, that one's crazy. Yeah, well, let me know. I can switch them up for you if you want. Sweet. But going forwards, we're going to try and have some exclusives from Kyberphonic, which are going to be pretty dope. Oh yeah, my favorite would probably be the Cymatar or the ETA2, ETAactus II, ETA... Can I throw in the tie interceptor? Nothing was cool, right? Interceptors are awesome. Pretty good tie defenders, pretty fucking dope, although it's pretty OP for a ship. I like the Stealth X. I think the Stealth X's are cool that the Jedi use with the Shadow Bombs. So you'll probably hate the smaller, but at some point in the expanding universe, Jedi start taking the propellant out of like proton torpedoes and packing them with Beredium, which is basically like fucking C4. And they just release them from the halls and then use the force to telekinetically fucking like throw them at shit. Obviously in zero gravity, it's probably a little bit easier. That sounds more reasonable though. Yeah, but they have Stealth X's, which are X-wings that are essentially painted. It's kind of like a Stealth fucking bomber that we have now in terms of what it does, like little gradations everywhere to try to... So it doesn't catch very big like radar patterns. And they're painted with kind of a star pattern. So they're really tough to pick out by the naked eye. Do you guys remember those fucking useless TLJ bombers? Yeah. Huge, slow. They destroy each other when you blow up one. God damn. Smaller favorite movie. Hey, Thierry. I wanted to say it was awesome to meet you at Megacon. It was awesome to meet you too, Brian. Hopefully I can see you and Ryan there next year. I'll be there next year. I'll be there next year. Yeah, man. It'll be a blast. Can't wait. Is it going to be February again? Yep. It's going to be... We talked about it earlier this stream. It's going to be the same week as the Super Bowl. Right. I was wondering if you could read my Super Chat from the beginning of the stream. I'd like to know your thoughts. Thank you for all you do. Mike, I wish you would have just... It does. Yeah, that does happen with it. So, Mikey for $20. My hope came true over the weekend. They announced they're going to re-release the Phantom Menace in theaters on May 3rd. I'm definitely seeing my favorite Star Wars movie on the big IMAX screen. Will you three see it? That's cool. I'm definitely going to go see it in theaters. I don't know if it's released in IMAX anywhere, but I'll definitely go see it in theaters. This is the first Star Wars... Well, I don't think I went to see the special editions in 97 when they were released. I think it's the first Star Wars movie I saw in theaters was Phantom Menace. Yeah, me too. I know I saw... I eventually did see re-releases, but... Yeah. Yeah, I'll probably be down in Orlando so I can see it with Balen and Will Peej. I think that'll be fun to see with the boys. I don't have any plans to do that. So, yeah, I'll definitely go see it. It'll be good. I find it crazy how out of touch Lucasfilm is when it comes to the High Republic and how they're banking on it being the future when no one cares about it. I don't think they're really banking on it being the future. You know, they release the books. They're not doing anything. They're still going and publishing stuff, but there's no energy surrounding it. We've got one tie-in series that's the Acolyte. It takes place at the end of the High Republic, but I don't feel like they think that's the future. I don't... They're delusional if they think so. I truly believe that there are so many other interesting things that they can talk. You know, the Acolyte is an inch... The High Republic is a really interesting time. It's kind of like, I wouldn't even say in between the Old Republic and prequels, because it's closer to the prequels, but... Yeah, I don't know. From everything I've heard and read, it just seems lame to me. And there's some people that really like it and cool, but it just seemed boring for me. One of the problems... Did you read it? I read the first book. I haven't really caught up or kept up with a lot of it since then, but I read Charles Soles. Was it Light of the Jedi or the first one that was out? No, I don't think it was a very good book, and I think it was a lot of trying to introduce you to a lot of fucking characters that you did not care about, which is tough to do in a book like that. But I think the biggest problem when it comes to that is they shrunk the timeline from 20,000 years, basically, of the Republic's existence to like a thousand or something, crazy. And they shrank the time in terms of inner hyperspace travel. I think they only recently discovered that in the galactic timeline. That's such a dumb fucking thing to do, because now you've completely written yourself out of so many millennia worth of stories that you could tell. And I think it's a really stupid decision for them, and I don't really understand why they did that. I don't either, to be honest. Yeah, I feel like the book was focusing on way too many characters, like you said. And I think one of the best books that they made was the Drew Carpacian Bane trilogy. We're just kind of focuses on like Bane, dude. Like you just focus on one character. You can have supporting characters, like the, what was it? The Brotherhood of Shadow? Brotherhood of Darkness. Brotherhood of Darkness. You know, like you can have all that in there. Lord Khan. Yeah, but like it just with higher public, it was just two all over the place, too many characters to focus on that you don't really care about right off the bat. And for me, that was a little bit hard to get into. I love the Darth Bane trilogy. And that's an interesting thing is that first book, especially for one book, Bane is the main character, but it does cover a lot. And you get this understanding of what the Jedi and Sith have been going through that they've been kind of fighting these battles for forever. You've got this new Brotherhood of Darkness on one side. You got Lord Hoth and the Jedi on the other side. I fucking love the first book. Yeah. And, you know, Bane comes up with a very clever way to eliminate a lot of Jedi and basically all the other Sith in the galaxy. Yeah. Because what is the initiation of the rule of two? And from the perspective of when we listen, when we hear only one Sith, there are no more or only two Sith, there are no more or no less kind of seems weird. Like, why would you do that? And I think the Bane novelization does a good job of showing you his perspective on why he felt it was necessary. Because the more Sith there are, the more they fight amongst each other, the weaker ones will gang up to defeat the stronger because that's like their nature. So you really have to limit it because of the nature of the dark side. And obviously there's problems with that and there's flaws in that thinking, but it makes sense from his perspective and what he's trying to do and what he's trying to develop. Yeah, I do. I loved it. It's really kind of portrayed the Sith as like an animal kingdom, like a jungle sort of. And like hyenas almost with the lower tier ones. It was cool. I liked it. Can't wait for Bad Batch 3. I missed your live watch along theory, but I'm sad the show's ending though. Yeah, you know, it's an entertaining show. It's fun to watch with the community, but yeah, I guess it's time for an end. But they'll probably have the same characters in other shows to be honest. Probably Obigah. I'm gonna watch one. Yeah, got you. On a scale of 1 to 10, how preachy will Acolyte be? 12. We'll see. Thanks for getting to my previous question. Star Wars Disney is like American car companies, especially during the late 80s to early 2000s. This is what you want. Trust me, bro. They'll make a Mace Windu show where everyone just shits on him the whole time and then some chick alien takes credit for all of his accomplishments. It's talking about fucking secret invasion. This will happen to Marvel. Yeah, pretty much. Jesus. With Sam Jackson's character, what was his name? Fury. Everyone liked Fury, not anymore. Do you think they brought Ventress back to save the captive Omega because they couldn't have a group of men save her? Wow. No, because then the whole Bad Batches, they're a whole bunch of men there. So, wow, one of them's missing now, I guess. And I don't even know if it's full on like present day or if it's a flashback. The tech has to be dead. No, I think it will. I don't think the series is very good, but at least that moment is... That's a moving moment. If you've got a chance for these characters at the end of season two, let those moments be. You don't have to fucking ruin all those moments by letting all these fucking motherfuckers survive. It's OK to let people die, especially if they die in that type of way. Yeah, just not Luke or Han. Yeah, and listen, Wade and the Obi-Wan, I'd feel the same way if they brought Wade back for an Obi-Wan season two, right? We saw an incredible finality for his character. He doesn't need to come back. Yeah, his finale was just as long as his introduction. Hey, guys, love the new Monday live show, Star Wars Theory. When does your full Theory Sabers website drop currently saving for a blade? Keep up the great work, everyone. Thanks, Spooky Sith. We're working hard every day, man. I just hired another web designer. As you know, websites are super expensive, and Vader Episode II is costing an arm and a leg every month, so trying to really budget everything, but it should be hoping it's ready by March, which would be great. It's going to be a very beautiful website, very extensive, and it'll have everything that you would want. You know, legacy hilts, custom hilts, custom builds, empty hilts, and then eventually we're going to go back to the original, which is like original Theory Sabers, which will be a section there that will offer only my hilts exclusive. Can you read my message from the start of the stream? I feel like that's... I'll find it, Lucas. You move on the next one, I'll find it. Oh, I got it. Theory, can you have Qui-Gon Invader III? Also, we have a Phantom Menace Watch Party in May. Qui-Gon won't be in three, but Phantom Menace Watch Party in May? Yeah, we could do that. That'd be fun, man. Thanks, Lucas. I managed a movie theater when The Force Awakens came out. I did my own marathon after hours with Blu-ray connected to the digital projectors. One movie a night, six days. That's awesome. It must have been amazing. Yeah. Yeah, we do that. That's crazy. Yeah. Good to see Ryan on here. What's up, low-water mark? What's up, low-water mark? Thanks, man. Yeah, we tolerate him. Is he one of your boys? Yeah, he's always in my chat. He's good people. He's a member here now, too. Thanks, man. Thanks for the big donut. Really wish Disney did a Vader film, Maul, or even Thrawn, instead of the Rey stuff. I would really be hype over a Star Wars What If. Well, man, you know, it's not like you got a YouTuber that's making a major Star Wars fan film about Vader. So, stay tuned, bro. Telling you, this will be better than the official stuff. At least is what we're going to know. Theory, you and Mauler should play this game called Suicide Squad. It's pretty fun. What are your thoughts on the rule of two? I guess it depends. Do you mean like a broad execution of like an entire system or that a character would think it's a viable way to maintain power? Because I can buy that Palpatine would engage in it, thinking it's beneficial to keep himself on top. Sort of thing. But like, I don't know enough about Sith lore to know whether or not this was an insanely stupid idea, like that destroyed their whole culture or not. So, like I said, the Darth Bane trilogy is a really good. It really gives you really good insight. But because for that, it was just like never any war between the Jedi and the Sith. And the Sith always, they always ended up losing because they were fighting against themselves and the Jedi in a way. And Bane kind of identified that due to the nature of the dark side. You have to limit the power and you have to be secretive and you have to like work from the inside and all these things. And he set in motion a thousand-year plan that eventually came to fruition. Palpatine is not like, I don't, Palpatine is in my mind, not a true believer in the rule of two. Palpatine saw it as a means to an end and he was able to outsmart Plagueis and eventually kill Plagueis. And that's why you see him having really no problems with utilizing other Force users and bringing on Darth Maul while he was still an apprentice to Plagueis. While the argument being he never really revealed the full plan to Maul, shit like that. What's your thoughts on Palpatine? Was he a true believer in the rule of two theory? I think he just wanted to hold power forever. I honestly don't think Palpatine gave a shit about anything other than, yeah, holding power. So he'll say and he'll do whatever. He had no allegiance to the Sith. He didn't care about anything, man. He just, he would use and abuse anybody for more power, more information, whatever he needs. Yeah, sounds about right. Yeah, so I mean, he, we even Plagueis, man, he had like seven different disciples all throughout the galaxy that he was kind of testing to see who would be the number one. Yeah, like almost all the Sith break the rule of two in a way. But the premise is for there to be a master and an apprentice. And for the apprentice to become more powerful than the master so that each successive master of the Sith is more powerful than the last. That's the theory, right? So you shouldn't be waiting until someone is like old and decrepit to finally challenge them. You should be challenging them at the height of their powers. And if that apprentice were to fail, you go find a new one and train them up. That was the theory behind the rule of two. Yeah. But even before Darth Bane ends up getting defeated by Zana, he's already really questioning whether this is a proper way. And if you don't have someone that's coming, if you don't have, if you have someone that waits too long to challenge or whatever, or if you made a mistake, you spent 20 years training this person who will never be more powerful than you, have I made like a grievous mistake in like making this the Sith ideology? Yeah. And the whole thing about, you know, like how Plagueis was teaching Palpatine and during that same time Palpatine had Maul, he just like didn't call him his apprentice. He called him a Sith assassin. Like all of a sudden that makes a big difference. So the difference was basically, and the thing is they never intended for Maul to become a Sith, right? They literally just trained him as a fucking weapon. Yeah. He was just a fucking weapon of aggression to send out there and kill people. The difference between that and some of the other ways we've seen the rule of two be broken is that Plagueis was well aware of it. Plagueis was monitoring Palpatine training Maul. Plagueis' entire thing was he was going to end the rule of two basically as well because he wanted to find the key to immortality and him and Palpatine were going to rule forever. Like that's what he wanted to do. Yeah. What's up, ZFDfilms, your theory epic meeting you at Megacon. If you have three minutes in the Minecraft, I'm the Minecraft guy and posted my vlog and we'll review my review in retrospective. Sure, Maul, check it out. Pant reviews. It was great. He probably type of, I don't know. Well, I'm kind of interested. I'd like to see these pantaloons, yeah. Rent a theater, watch the movies as a meetup. Yeah, be fun. Yeah. How many Star Wars books have you read, Ryan? I don't know, like 120, 130, something like that? If you're just counting like actual adult Star Wars novels, if you're counting the all of them, like young, the kid shit, I don't fuck a lot. Because like those Jedi apprentice novels, there's like, there's like 20 or 25 of those and they're short reads or whatever. So a lot. If you're just talking about like actual no shit Star Wars novels, everything 120, 130. I'll say everything 200. 200 plus, yeah. If you want, then you got to include comics and then you're including single issue comics. No, we're just doing graphic novels. We're just doing print. We're just doing, yeah. That's crazy. I guess you guys are never... On the record, Ryan knows so much more than I do when it comes to Star Wars lore and expanded universe. Like both of them live so much more than I do. This one makes us a trio. It is an interesting like dynamic between us. Yeah, it's cool. And we're friends. It's nice. It's cool. Yeah, I enjoy. I enjoy the dynamics. We're coming up on just the end here. I guess you guys are never watching Clone Wars. Feels like each week you go, oh, it'll be next week, guys. And then you have some sort of excuse. Oh, I'm sorry, man. Yeah, it's been pretty busy for me. You know, traveling for three weeks. Yeah, I think it's only fair with the big trip you guys did. But I would obviously get in the way. Like this, you know, we can make... This thing, if we had, for example, if we wanted to bring on Gary next week, which we can ask if he wants to, that wouldn't be the week where we talk about Clone Wars. Right. And then if the following week some huge news came out or something, or like several episodes of something, it's like, yeah, so that wouldn't be the way... It's not like we're trying to annoy you guys or bait you. No, I am. Or I'm... Yes. But I mean, I'll try and get it watched in general, right? And then the second I do, I can message both of you and say, like, I'm good to talk about it now whenever. So... Yeah. So, you know, we'll definitely get to it for sure, I think. But when we say we're going to do it and talk about it, we say that because we're excited at the idea and a lot of interesting things are going to happen. We're not doing it to annoy you guys by baiting things. Yeah, we don't want to piss you off. No. Yeah, no, not at all. Mahler's the only one who hasn't watched it. I hope it's spot-like me, bro. I hope they never wrote poetry about Anakin. Oh, shit, that was weird, dude. All right, that concludes the end of the Super Chats, I believe, unless there were a few I missed. I'm sorry if I did. But we appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoyed today's Monday show. We're back at it. We'll see you guys next week with possibly maybe Gary, which would be always fun. I'm proud to be part of this based-ass community. What's up, Boba? Boba. Boba. Slando. Boba. Thanks so much. New member from The Raven. We love you guys. We will catch you next week. Check out everyone's socials. It's all linked in the description below. And check out theorysavers.com. We'll see you guys soon. Peace.