 How are you doing today? I'm doing good. How are you doing? Yeah, pretty good. Hey, how's it going for your filming first year in five games here now? It's doing good. Just keep learning every single day. It's fun to be out here just playing football. I mean, that's my job, so I love it. Just going out here flying around and then learning every single game. So, I'm great. Would have been some of the key lessons from Coach Montecino that allowed you to go out and beat the girls who've been playing. I think just focusing on the details. I think in college, details are important, but you don't really focus on that. You kind of try to don't really hone in on that, but in NFL, you really got to hone in on the details because that's what changes in the game. So, I think he helps me really hone in on the details, my footwork, hand placement, just focusing on those things. I was talking to Coach a couple weeks ago and he made the comment that for a young guy, you know what to do with your body. He's like your length in your body. He's like, that's something that you sometimes get a young guy in who doesn't really know what to do with the body. I mean, at what point, I guess in college, or maybe even earlier, did you kind of realize how to maneuver in a way that works best for you? Yeah, I would say my last year in college, I learned a lot about using my length. I think my coach Elsa did a great job of teaching us how to use length and footwork. So, I think I learned a lot from then. You know, I learned that God gave me a gift and my long arms so I could use it. You know, I started using that more and more in my last year in college and then now I'm just developing it more in the NFL. We talk to Stephen Means a lot and I know that he's somebody that you work with constantly. Yeah, I think he's an extremely great leader. You know, someone who cares about me and cares about what I do, not just on the field but off the field. So, I think he's a great mentor. You know, he's someone who's always pushing me to be better. I think that's the biggest thing is, you know, you guys see what we do outside of football, but when it's on the field, he's always pushing me to do better, to work harder, to run faster, to chase the ball and just keep pushing me. So, I think he's someone who's just pushing me to be better and he's just someone off the field I could always talk to about anything. You know, anything off the field related about family, about anything, really, I can go up to Stephen and talk to him about it. You go back and watch that sack or any kind of recent play that went well for you from the AdJets game. Are you seeing that that attention to the details and those little things play out when you make those positive plays? Yeah, yeah. I definitely try to focus on those positive plays. But I think for watching the game like that, I'm more focused on the things that I didn't do, you know, things that I could work on, things that I could probably get a sack on but didn't, you know, things that I could work quicker to get a sack on or things I could do quicker to get off a block and make a play. You know, those things, you know, those things are great, but you got to move on from that and focus on what's important right now. So that's my thing on watching the film is looking at the things I need to work on, the things that I could have improved, and then going on to the next game. Are you noticing that all those little things that you are doing better, all those smaller details are helping you, are making the game easier? Oh yeah, absolutely. I feel like for me, once I do the small things and really get down to footwork, it just becomes natural. It just becomes like, I don't got to worry about it. It's going to happen over time. All those things constantly, continuously. So that one happens in the game, it's just natural. You're just going out there playing. I didn't like, a lot of times when you get later on in the game, you start to get a little tired and then you start to kind of lean on the board. So it's pretty much you want to get laid in the game. How do you keep yourself from doing that and making sure you continue to use your glimph like you talk about and get those off some of your hands off? Yeah, I feel like it's just, I know you got to get yourself conditioned for the one that the fourth quarter comes and then also just having a plan. When I go out there, I have one plan, I'm just going to go out there and execute it to the best of my ability. I feel like it's just a reactionary, defensive line is a reactionary position. You got to react to who's punching you or what they're setting to you. Different things like that. So I think once the game goes on, you got to realize that you got to mix it up. I feel like playing D-line and pass versus chess. You got to see what your opponent is doing right here. Ask Matt about preparation and looking at film or guys. You mentioned talking about looking at different offensive linemen. What are some of the things that you're looking for when you are watching film or the guy that you're going up against? Yeah, I'm watching the stands how they get off. Some guys get out vertical, some guys get out wider horizontally. There's some guys who put their hand in the dirt sometimes to run, sometimes they don't do it in pass so you can get a nugget on there and you just get a familiar life on what they're doing. If they're shooting both hands or if they're shooting one hand, if you can get them on a ball rush, if you can get on speed, you try to figure out all those things. So when the game comes you're not thinking about all that stuff. For me it's just I'm trying to go out there and just fly around. I'm not really trying to think about all these things in the game day. So when the preparation comes during the week I get scout report, study them and once the game comes, I'm flying. And last but not least do you mind when you finally got home man, what was your mind? I don't even know. It was a crazy experience. It was crazy. I was happy. Everybody, I think that shack just shows everybody doing their jobs. Grady was up there in the middle, helped me out. Means also or Dante also on the other side. So everybody just helped me on that shack but it was crazy. Getting your first one definitely means something special. I'm just trying to get working and get some more. What was your expectation to kind of stab yourself as a key role player? I don't think I was worried about playing on the field or doing that. I was just worried about doing my job. I think a lot of people think about ahead but I'm more of a person who think about every single day. Those are the biggest. If you think about every single day, the results and the playing time and all that will come. So when I got here in OTA I was thinking about learning the defense just every single day learning from the coaches on the Kino, Steven Means Tui, Co, all those guys I was learning from Dante and just getting better each and every day. The playing time and all that, it comes with learning what you're doing, knowing how to do it and doing your job. To that end, is that almost like a gratification that you see every weekend and week out more opportunities kind of be given your way that it's like, hey look, I said every single day I'm going to come in here and work and every single day I want to be able to have something to look back on to be like, this is the reason why I got to this point. I mean, when you think about the gratification of you're happy to get out there and play and receive that playing time but you also have to realize that that game didn't just happen before I'm still looking forward to getting better and better each and every day because I always had a coach tell me if you just be complacent and you just be happy with what you did it's either getting better or getting worse and I think that's for me I think about every single day in practice every single day in life is I'm getting better I'm getting worse. So, you know, just focusing on every single day and then obviously when the results come and you know the sags or whatever come, then you realize that you put in the work, you put in the time you put in the preparation to get there. Appreciate it.