 here between you guys. And we'll branch out from that because I know that both you guys want to talk about some other topics maybe and we'll see where we go from there. But as far as climate change goes, I know that Ramon believes climate change is I believe you acknowledge it as a real thing, correct? Well, it is a scientific fact. I mean, it's always right. But you also think that it's being used as an excuse by the powers that be, especially in regards to the great reset, correct? Well, yeah, I mean, that's a documented that's a documented fact that in the 1960s, they were talking about global cooling all throughout the 70s. A lot of those scientists are still alive. You can read their sense. There is no lack of consensus on change. The climate has always been changing. It's been hotter and colder within human history within recorded human history and also in archaic and ancient human history and in paleo history. We have survived much hotter and much colder environments. We've survived water at much lower levels and we've survived water at higher levels. So this is not really news. The mechanism is what's misunderstood and the politicization of carbon is just a convenient vehicle. And it just so happens that carbon is tied to oil and how interesting how that happened. So that's that's my that's my general I can I can go into the science, but it's probably going to make well, we'll get there. We'll get there. So clock, you believe that essentially that all everything they say about climate change is correct. All the hysteria is correct. And it has no tie into the so called a great reset, correct? I don't think that it's got a tie into this. Well, I don't think that there's like this purposeful effort to from some shadowy powers above us to I'm guessing the great reset is in terms of demographics. They want to get rid of white people and replace them with brown. No, no, no, I don't think that's that. I don't think. Well, I don't think that's what most people are talking about when they're talking about the great reset personally. It could be wrong. But right. So you talk about the reset of like, I think legit, I think I think what they I think what people are saying, let me let me just lay it out. I think what people are saying is talking to about what the World Economic Forum said about, you know, you'll own nothing and be happy about it. And they're seeing all these crazy things happen all of a sudden and governments overreaching to implement policies that seem like getting to the points that that form has laid out. Right? Am I wrong? So I think that I think that climate change is a phenomenon that has happened. When a when people typically talk about climate change, there's usually talking about the specific changes is happening due to post industrial revolution, human activity, the burning of fossil fuels, and and also to a extent, the the mass production of cattle, which is putting methane into the air, which is a much more potent greenhouse gas than carbon actually is. That's what they're usually talking about. So when somebody says something like, well, the climate's always changing. That's true. But it's not to the extent that we have seen so far naturally. And even if it was a natural phenomenon, that doesn't change the the negative impacts that these changes are going to have on our current society. Yes, humans have survived worse in the past, maybe, but they didn't survive well. They didn't live the standard of life that we are living today. And and yeah, that's that's kind of what I think. Yeah, climate change is a real thing. And as far as the government's approach to dealing with it, you're all in on that. And without question or scrutiny. Well, I would have to talk about individual policies. I don't really. Yeah. All right. Well, we might get into that. So so do you acknowledge that that so we already I think covered this, but you acknowledge that climate change is a real thing. I mean, do you think that it is as big a threat as clock does? Well, I mean, the changes that are being that are occurring because all of the climates in the solar system are changing are pretty severe. Not as severe as the degradation of the magnetosphere, because it's already massively degraded in the last 100 years. That has nothing to do with industrialization. It will affect our satellite infrastructure, our telecommunications, which is already talking about like the pulse shifts. Correct. The magnetic the magnetic poles are moving at an accelerating rate and they're going to converge near to Indonesia. We don't know exactly like we're making a huge like I'm like we're jumping into a whole other thing. But go ahead. No, it's important. It's important to understand that the the powers that that exist know all all of this. They have the data. They have the NASA data. They know that Venus and Saturn Neptune Titans climates are all changing. They just don't care what's important. Yeah, I've heard about that. Actually, I remember reading about that forever. They're like even 20 years ago about how like planets of the solar system warming up. If somebody could get hit a little bit of mute. Well, it's actually accelerated in the last year and a half. So back up in November 2019, the satellite Juno actually we observed the reconnection of the South Pole of Saturn to the South Pole of Jupiter through what are called Birkeland currents. And we've observed increasing acceleration of these changes increases of wind speed on Neptune and changes in color to various bodies. The Earth is undergoing these pressures because of the what is called the current sheets that are in the space and they've only recently acknowledged that the sun the sun has an electric field. They just finally started acknowledging that which it's been calculated for many decades. How that gets mixed up into the the oil thing really has a lot to do with the politics of oil is really where that's coming from and the control of energy and this in this case energy that people burn. But as far as will people survive? Yeah, people will survive the the even the light that they tell you when you actually look at the rate that the water would supposedly go up. It's such a slow rate that literally no one will be under threat. They'll just have to move and people have done that for a long time. One point the the Straits of Gibraltar broke open. Everybody who was living in the Mediterranean seabed had right. Yeah, it won't be like it's always happened as far as sea level. It won't it won't be a drastic sudden shift. Even in the younger dress event when the sea level rose by like 80 meters or something like that. It happened over decades of time. It didn't happen as sudden mega tsunami come through. That's not that's not what was occurring when we talk about climate change. So you know as far as global warming man made global warming. Carbon. I'm going to tell you this carbon has nothing to do with man made global warming. If there's man made global warming it could be methane but termite Hills and it Hills produce way more methane than cattle the worldwide. So that that's not an issue carbon. If you put all the atmosphere into a football field carbon is the last inch of before the goal line. We actually are not going to have enough carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the far future of humanity. But right now I mean I'm not against putting trees. I'm totally against pollution. The blanching of the coral reefs has nothing at all to do with global warming. It has to do with the crap that Asia and the all those countries over there are dumping into the oceans and the pollution is a serious problem. It's got to be fixed. It's an engineering problem and it's an opportunity. Right. And you know what it's I like that you said that because I think the so-called right wing gets this reputation. Obviously I think because of propaganda that we hate the earth and you know we would destroy. Right. Most of us I think you're pretty much on board like for most part on most of the stuff like we just we're just questioning like government over each for the most part. Right. Well then as well we should I'm a conservationist not an environmentalist and you can watch that documentary that was put out Michael Moore helped produce and you can see a person who's on the left wake up to what the environmentalists are doing and how they're in bed burning wood to make gas energy from gases inside the wood makes no sense at all when you're right. There's a lot of use of idiots in the environmentalist movement basically. Correct. Correct. And so the politics of power and oil is really the main issue and it's and then the convenience of carbon taxing and carbon power. Of course if Al Gore really cared about any of this he'd close down his mansion and all of his jet planes stop telling us all how to live. Clock what are your feelings on this stuff. I mean do you rap. He just went on for like an hour and I'm going to let you know and I'm going to let you to and I'm going to let you to and I want to ask you. I'm not interested in going on an hour about one hundred and thirty seven thousand things. I guess we could start with where he started. What was the reason why you even brought up the magnetic fields like how's that tie into global warming. What is that. Well he's saying he's saying there's other factors that play basically in so and climate change. So let me say this. Here I'll lay down so we I think we all agree that climate change is a real thing and I think it's been happening a long time and we all you know agree to that point and he's I think putting out there that there's other things that play affecting our climates and warming them up not just on earth but other plants in the whole system. Everything is changing. So so wait. So is it that magnetic fields are helping warm the earth or is the magnetic fields just like another topic all together that you're using magnetic fields personally but that's just that this is something that's happening and throughout the soldiers. The degradation of the magnetosphere has been measured happening since about 1880 and the changing electric field is because of the changing electric fire environment in space. The variability of the sun has been measured and it's due to small wobbles in our relationship to the sun. So there's always little variations and I have not my papers I mean there are other scientists who have done the mathematics on these papers and they could show you the small variations basically correlate to exactly to the small changes in our environment. There's also a repetitive 11 year cycle in the sun and that 11 year cycle is an electrical behavior and all of this is happening is way above humans pay grade. Now humans do affect weather and that may be disturbing except for it's the opposite of what you would think. So when you when you have a lot of clearing like in Borneo you get a lack of rainfall. So you wouldn't be having massive flooding events. Not it's not like the less. Okay. So what you're saying is because the magnetic sphere is no is degrading. What do you mean? No, I didn't even make a claim. Yeah. Okay. So what is the point of bringing up the magnetosphere? Well, he asked me about he asked me about the planet changing and I mentioned that there is correlating data about the magnetosphere changing. What's happened also since 1880 industrialization. So you're blaming one thing, but it has no direct industrialization. Your claim is is still that it's just a natural phenomenon that's happening on the earth. But that's what your claim is. Climate change is a natural phenomenon. Yes. That's a fact. Okay. So you think that the warming since the increased warming since the industrial revolution is a thing that would have happened without the industrial revolution. Some places first of all, some places have warmed and some places have cooled. If you're still relying on maps where they manipulate the data to where the red shows up more than the blue, you're going to be missing it. But the average if you're talking about the average global temperature rising very slightly. Yeah, that's a normal phenomenon. That's going to see this thing is that the rate it's the rate at which the temperatures have risen. It has went up since the industrial revolution. Is that just a coincidence? But it was going up before that too. So you're ignoring all the data before that. Well, it was going up. But it was the rate at which it was going up has increased the rate at which it was going up steadily and then it started going up faster after the industrial. What I say, what has been increasing at an accelerated rate, the degradation of the magnetosphere. So there's an accelerating change in the electric. So the magnetosphere is causing global warming. Is what you're saying? No. Well, if you cut me off, that's going to happen. So once you shut it out for a second, just shut it up though. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. It's just you don't understand it. Okay. If the magnetosphere is changing because of a changing electrical environment around the earth and that electrical environment protection earth and the sun that has been measured by science, that is relevant. Whether or not you understand it is not, it doesn't matter to me. Well, I don't understand your point in bringing up the magnetosphere. I know what I'm saying. Right over your head. A climate change issue. When you keep telling me that it's not what's causing climate change. Man does not cause climate change. Man is not causing climate change. Okay. So do you disagree with the idea that carbon dioxide can hold in heat? Carbon dioxide could hold in heat, except for carbon dioxide sinks in the atmosphere. So, you know, kind of irrelevant. But carbon dioxide is what? It sinks. It sinks in the atmosphere. So you don't think that there's more carbon dioxide in our atmosphere now that it was on the atmosphere by 0.01% more? Yeah, it's 0.01% more. Okay. So we know to what degree carbon dioxide is warming the planet? Like, do we know, like, do we know, like, is there a number that's like carbon dioxide is causing this much more warming? But the number they've admitted, the number that they've calculated is this, and the error margin is this, which means they don't know inside of that error margin, they don't honestly know. And that's why there's disagreement in the community of actual scientists, not the part where they send it out to the media. 99% of scientists, 99% of other scientists can make global warming. I'm not bullshitting. Hold on, Raymond. Yeah, but what he's saying is bullshit. Just so you know. Okay. So just because Raymond has his like little little hand move. Oh, I'm sorry. Let him talk, man. Come on. Just because Ramon has his handful of scientists that disagree with the overwhelming consensus on climate change doesn't mean that like, it's still not overwhelming consensus within the climate community, climate science community. Hey, let me ask you a question then. Consensus science. What's the consensus science of what causes fusion? I have no fucking idea. We're not talking about fusion. We're talking about climate change. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. You're brought up, you're brought up consensus fucking science. What's the consensus on what causes fusion? I don't know. I didn't study fusion. Then why did you don't know? Allow it though. Then why are you bringing up the consensus on things that you don't know about? Which is because I know that the consensus of climate change is that it's man made. CNN has told you there's a lot of it. Wait, wait, I don't watch CNN. Like I don't know why you'll keep bringing up cable news when I don't even watch cable news. I don't think Clark does watch cable news guys. I honestly don't think he watches any TV. Whatever you watch. Okay, it tells you that there's a consensus, but there isn't on one side of Antarctica. It's freezing and the ice is thickening. On the other side, it's melting. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Just letting you know. Wait, wait, do you know why the ice is thickening in Antarctica? Because fresh water keeps melting into the ocean. Making the ratio of salt to water be more water, which makes the freezing temperature of the ice lower. That's why it's not freezing. The one side is freezing more. And the other side is more because it's shifting position. There's very good also the rotation rate of the earth and in the tilt of the earth period. This is a mathematical fact. And you don't think that climate scientists are like taking those variabilities into their figures. Real climate scientists are. And guess what? When people visit those places, they tell them what's in the news is bullshit. That's what they tell them. Cluck, I want to ask you real quick because I think this is an interesting point and it actually gets to the crux of a lot of this is do you trust the ultimate. Decisions of these people as far as like what the all the factors are and what the. I guess I don't know like like you just said that like you trust whatever that group told you about like we're just talking about things that are so astronomical and hard to like really understand. You know what I mean? Like why do you like put so much faith in like what they say about it? Because when it comes to the environment, especially there's so many factors that are really playing and like Ramon brought up there is there really is things going on the solar system as far as plants warming them in those factors will get talked about. And I think it's interesting that if you actually compare that to a lot of different issues as it pertains to our society and the media, you get the same kind of thing with all of those like you don't get a full discussion on all the facts. I don't know. What do you think about that? Do you think it's just open and shut or what? Sorry, I it's kind of late. So I thought maybe there would be a problem. There was a problem. No, I'm sorry. No, you're good, man. I'm just rambling anyway, dude. This is all just like off the cuff kind of shit. So I'm just you're not on my I got I think I reconnect because you're not on my Bluetooth anymore. Oh, OK, OK. Well, I heard you. I don't know if anybody else is yeah. He's on Bluetooth headset. So it might disconnect, you know, Bluetooth is it probably well, all the rambling there. But wait, I want to clarify for all the difference between the great reset and the great replacement. The great replacement is a UN a UN thing. And you can go to the United Nations website and read about the great replacement. The great reset is an economic thing from the World Economic Forum and they have bragged Klaus Schwab has bragged about having young governmental leaders such as Justin Trudeau infiltrating governments and they've they've called it penetrating actually they call it penetrating the government to see that two different two different conspiracy topics. That's interesting. We should talk about that. I think that's really interesting because there's a lot of shit about Trudeau and in general we can talk about this. Well, I don't know where Clark stands though on that. I'm not going to just assume it. Look, I don't know what I don't know. I can't get this shit to work on my Bluetooth anymore. I hear you. Is it still clear? Yeah, you sound great actually better than I've ever heard you on on here. Okay, I guess we'll go with it then. Yeah, man. I don't know. We kind of started moving it. I don't know if we should I think that you were asking you were asking him if he just believes that we should do whatever policy is suggested by, you know, someone like right politicians and then and then the politicians just go with it and announce we're going to make big sweeping changes like the new the Green New Deal. And I think that that was basically just of your question. Right. Do you exactly? I mean, do you think we should just go with whatever like right now we people and we have major inflation which was predicted and denied by the Democrats, right? And by themselves, which we're getting anyway and they've had excuse after excuse after excuse of who's to blame for it. And this stuff just keeps going. I mean, are you willing to just go with like what I call the climate cult? Do you think what what are we? What are they blaming? No, I'm saying what I'm saying is like as far as climate change goes and what the mainstream says about do you think that we should just go along with whatever they suggest without scrutiny? Right. So I'm a big believer in science. If people who if people who are who spend their lives studying this stuff who understand it way more than I do and I'm looking I'm reading the numbers on NASA 97% of them are saying one thing. I'm going to go ahead and believe that one thing and not believe the guy on the Internet who who tells me that that the magnetic fields are causing climate change, but they're not causing climate change or whatever. Don't see because you don't understand it. Don't mistake it, which is a really dumbass thing to do. Let me tell you something about NASA. They have gone out of their way to try and measure the the comets and find out if there's a water on them. Okay. They call it the or cloud. They postulated based on this guy named or that they were all dirty snowballs. They sent up a craft that craft had a probe that probe when they shot it bounced off of the rock. So these NASA scientists have made the assumptions and then when you go and look they make the corrections, but then they don't tell the public that they've made those corrections. They now know that comets are electrical and they're giant rocks and that their comet tails are not water ice and all the water on them is due to hydrogen mixing with oxygen ions. They know that, but they don't go out of the way to tell people like you, because people like you will believe anything. And so if you'll believe whatever they say, then they're going, then you're going to fund whatever the whatever you're never going to call Congress and say, Hey, I think that climate change might actually be mediated by the electric changes in the environment. What do you think? Do you think maybe we shouldn't destroy our economy, which happens to benefit who China, Russia, OPEC. Whenever we get strong with natural gas and oil, isn't that fucking convenient? That's what I'm saying. So one thing that you did in that rant and you did a couple of things, one thing that you did in that rant was you did this thing that conservatives need to do and they like to like had a prediction. I'm going to talk, Raymond. Let him talk. Don't talk. They like to look at a prediction that institutions made in the past and because it was wrong, they'll try and discredit that institution based off of that wrong prediction. Even though when that institution found out it was wrong, they changed their beliefs based off of their new findings, which is a whole lot more than I can say about most people that have strong political ideologies. So I'm going to go ahead and just go with what NASA is saying on climate change over a random guy on the internet. You made so many mistakes just now. Number one, I'm libertarian. So I'm not a conservative. Okay. I'm socially liberal and fiscally concerned. Number two. Okay. The ESA is just like NASA. They actually put out a movie propaganda about how much water they were going to fund me. Did they actually announce that they didn't find water? No, they have their little science reports in the background, but they don't tell you. The propaganda they sell beforehand is to raise the funding, but they don't bother telling you. You have to follow the science. So if you believe so much in science, how come you don't follow it? That's the question. I don't care about water on asteroids. What do you mean? Comments or comments, whatever comments. I don't I don't care about that stuff. That's why I didn't follow that. I know. I know you don't. I know you don't. So I don't care about. But don't say you don't say you don't care about. No, no, no, I do trust the science over you. And yes, that's like trusting the government while they do STD vaccines on black people without. No, it's not like trusting the government while they do STD's blah, blah, blah. It's like it's like it's like trusting a bunch of scientists who get paid to to look into these phenomenons and explain them. That using a scientific method. Yeah, that's that's the whole point. Use the scientific method. Let me ask you if I can I can ask a personal question. How many boosters have you gotten? I haven't gotten the booster. Okay. Are you glad you didn't because now the report is coming out about the 1200 side effects? No, I am not glad I didn't. I wish I did. I just lazy. Okay, fair enough. Maybe I was like whenever I don't know which report you're talking about, but I have a feeling that it's it's a bunch of bullshit. It might be. It's not PDT. If you. I guarantee you it's not as drastic as you're making it up sound. 1200 side effects. Okay. All right. So now now we know you're talking some shit. Let me tell you something. I have a patient and she now has to carry around a defibrillator because of the Moderna booster. Yeah, there's a bunch of how there's a bunch of patients that need to carry around the defibrillator because of COVID, right? It's a point. My point is she trusted the science too. That's not the point. That's not how scientific method works. Scientific method is you make an inquiry. You have a hypothesis. You do the test. You have controls. You have variables. You have the data. You write you write a report. You send it around other people repeat the experiment and when they repeated the experiment, guess what? It turned out that they had overestimated all the climate change stuff by twice by two times the amount. And when they revised the numbers, they were inside the margin of error. They can't say specifically how much the climate is changing due to man made effects. We do know that that weather changes in specific regions due to human behaviors. We should treat the planet better. There are ways to do that and those ways shouldn't involve dirty politics right or left. They should involve working together based on actual science. Yeah, NASA disagrees with you. So I'm going to go ahead and go with them. Like that's fine. NASA has a SWAT team. So what? I don't care. I don't care if NASA disagrees. Can I say something? Anybody can talk. It's highlight. I got to say, well, I got to say it's highly unorthodox, but I'll allow it. Well, liver cluck. All right. See, you keep on saying the things like, well, see this is how conservatives normally do this and then you're trying to conflate that's what he's saying there and you're not listening to what he's saying. You have this, you know, ongoing theme about doing this and you kind of started getting them hinged here with your conversations and and how you're going about things and you started getting a little more aggressive than you normally have been. And it's going to come to the point where you're about to have to apologize for saying something. And I'm trying to stop. I'm actually on right now, millionaire. I'm curious. What is he saying? I want you to tell me what he's saying that I'm, I'm, I'm not getting. He takes just the popular opinion of the liberal aspect and of everything and he tries to make everybody argue his position against his position. Well, hold on. Okay. Millionaire, dude. I love you, bro. But let's me it's not fair to like start bringing other people in on this. I'm sorry. It's not fair. Just maybe you do you want to do you want to you want to take Ramon's place for a little bit? You got to come on camera if you're going to. No, I was just trying to cool the situation. It just seemed like he was getting a little bit heated. You know, I was just trying to get it. All right. All right, we're losing. We're losing focus here. Okay, millionaire. Thank you for your piece. We got to keep these two guys and then maybe we're going to do like a group chat here afterwards. But back to what we were talking about. So where do we leave off? Like so I clock an interesting point. I actually thought was this whole like conflation of the great reset with the great replacement. Is that what you're doing? Um, yeah. When he said great reset, I guess I was reading it. Great replacement. Okay. Yeah. See, I thought that was interesting actually. Um, cause even the great replacement, you got to admit like I never really gave it much thought or anything, but like there is something to that. I think, but besides that, should we talk about that? On the website. It isn't a matter of debate. You can read about it on the UN. Yeah. The great replacement are I'm sorry. The great reset is a real thing. Do you deny it? It's like. Quickly define what the great reset is. The great reset is an economic, uh, actually very technically it was the name of a conference. I think it was either 2019 or 2020 held by the World Economic Forum, which is a invite only for people who are anywhere from low millionaires to billionaires and they come in and discuss what world policy should be. It has nothing to do with anything you can vote on. Your congressman has no say in it. And then they go about trying to penetrate the government and pass around lobby funds and put together corporate written legislation such as the Green New Deal, uh, in order to change the behavior and policies of the governments of the world. Of course, the only ones that are listening are the dumb ones in the West. Everyone else would tell them to take a fucking hike, which is what we should do. Okay. So basically there's this conference in which a bunch of rich people get together, talk about economic issues and you think that this is some kind of shadowy organization that's, uh, how do you deny the fact though that like the things they talk about are being like they're being implemented and the things that are happening. You can easily see on their website. Those policies will be implemented. Well, if they are being suggested by people. Okay. So if you think about something like the Green New Deal, which hasn't passed Congress, um, there's like a handful of Democrats that want to do it and there's like some more Democrats that are reluctantly wanting to do it. But let's think about just climate policy in general. If you just just put your shoe, you put your, put your self in the shoes of somebody who believes the 97% of scientists who says that climate change is real, it's man made and it's going to have really bad, um, effects on America and the world in the future. You would probably want to do something like that about that legislatively, correct? But when you say that, when you, let me just, let me just quickly jump in here real quick. Nearly there. No, no. Well, I shouldn't even, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Ramon. You respond. Um, so let's run with this premise, which is that, uh, that there is a consensus. It's not, but let's say that there is such a thing as consensus science and that the consensus says such, then their solutions are still all wrong, which because they all happen to involve what I call neo feudalism. They involve creating very specific elites, eliminating property rights. Okay. There are, there are several things that make a person liberal. One of them is property rights and individual ownership. Another one of your bill of rights in general. And if you have a group of, they're not shadowy. They publish you. They are. Everyone knows who Klaus Schwab is and he gives, uh, press conferences and he tells you very specifically, if you think that things are going back to the way we had before COVID, that's not going to happen. That's what he says. Now, if you don't expect liberals, I'm sorry, uh, libertarians, independence and conservatives, whether the Republican or far, right, all right to get up in arms about, uh, that kind of thing. You're living in a crazy world because of course, none of us are going to give up our property because some bald ass over there thinks that we should all eat less beef while he flies around on jets. That's not going to happen. So you, wait, you think that when he said things aren't going back before COVID, he means that he's going, uh, that they're going to start seizing property that that's what you think he meant. Well, I, I, I G, I wonder, did, did anything happen in Canada? Maybe that we could refer specifically to, I don't know. Wait, so do you think that he meant when he said things aren't going back to the way they were before that they were going to start seizing property? No, I don't think that they're going to martial law sees property. I do think you connect those two in your rant. I connected those two because they're fucking connected. And you can see that by the corporations buying up housing while the market is hot. They're, they are eliminating private ownership. However, they're not doing it by our corporations, private owned entities. Yeah. Yeah, they're private owned and some of them go to the World Economic Forum. Okay. So these private people are buying private property, but somehow the corporations are buying private corporations are private entities. Some of them are public entities, but you can, you can, we'll let it slide that you don't know the difference. Well, wait, so we, okay. Sometimes when you, when people are saying public versus private, they are talking about government versus people. Sometimes when they say public versus private, if you're talking specifically like within the stock market, you're talking about like mom and pop versus like on the stock market. Now, which one are you talking about right now? When you say private, It's different companies. So there are private equity companies that are doing it and there are public real estate companies that are doing it. And they're doing a number of other changes that have happened. I'm talking, you can wait. They're doing a number. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Raymond, Raymond, I do not understand what you're saying. If I don't understand what you're saying, everything else you're saying, I'm not going to understand. Okay. You can wait. Good. So some of the other things that they're doing is changing the fractional reserve lending requirements, tracking how many dollars that you deposit. If you go over 600 or if you would draw over 600, all of these things are happening at the same time. And guess what? They're all contained in the lockstep project and they're contained several of the documents. They publish this stuff publicly. The fact that you don't read it is on you. That has nothing to do with whether or not it's when you said these are private equity firms. What do you mean by public? There are corporations who are also public. So they're big real estate companies and they are also purchasing up properties while the market is hot. No, by public, you mean. So by public, you mean just big. No, I mean that there are companies that are on the stock exchange. Okay. So that's what I was saying earlier. And you okay. So when you say public, you just mean companies that are on the stock exchange. These aren't government entities that are doing this. Well, there are some that are receiving government subsidies, I'm sure, but I haven't looked in specifically to a company to see if they're receiving government subsidies. So I have no idea how much the government is directly involved in that. I just told you that the World Economic Forum is a non-governmental organization. You don't get to vote and I would say. I mean, that's capitalism, baby. Like what do you mean? The private public firms buying up property. That's capitalism. I'm not sure why you have a problem with this. As I can say, I have a problem with capitalism between the two of us. I'm the one with the business and you're the one who has it who has a government job and still complains about the wife prices. Okay. So don't even try to go that direction. I'm telling you that the World Economic Forum has publicly announced that they're going to change how people live and own property and they are going to penetrate the government. That's the words that they have used openly on video. You can just go watch it on YouTube. They penetrate the government's and they enact changes and within the same period of time, you have changes to the monetary policy, currency policy, position towards cryptocurrency and behaviors of people who are acknowledged WF young governmental leaders like Justin Trudeau who suddenly claim power and they want to control your crypto out of nowhere because it had nothing at all to do with COVID or anything going on. Those things are related. In fact, you can't understand them. I don't know what to do for you. Everybody else who would be listening to this can see it and can read the writing on the wall. And what I'm advertising to you, what I've been trying to tell you is that independence, libertarians, Republicans and anybody else who isn't on the far left, we are not going to sit here and just watch our property or our property be taken away because some guy corporations can by corporations, right? No, it could be corporations. It could be it could be private equity. I mean, it is a policy change because the left because the left is trying to legislate our property away from us and what policy is going through that's going to make it easier for a corporation to take your property from you. Fuck. All right, whenever you was talking about the Green New Deal earlier, all right, and you was trying to say that just because the Green New Deal didn't get passed that nothing is being passed because of the Green Deal. That is, you're trying to equate all kinds of things and you're just trying to make up this argument, dude. Like I just asked a question. I've been asking questions this entire time. You're really not seeing the big picture here and people are trying to tell you and throughout this whole entire server, we've seen how you how you act. You know, let's keep it. Let's keep it non personal. You know, behaviors. Yeah, so the way I act is the way I am. I'm not interested in what I work. But I'm not going to answer the question out in terms that you use because you try to do this destiny stuff. What I will tell you is this. I'm glad the Green New Deal isn't being passed because there are unfortunately enough capitalist still around who understand what the importance of private property is. Now, we mean the same capitalist and buying up those property that you're you're you're like, I did not going to take from us. When everything that the Green New Deal was going to be about has already been when. Hold on. Now you know what we have all all energy has been completely stuck within this country and that's what the Green New Deal wasn't and it's it wasn't passed, but yet is already been done. It's still there and it's and it the important thing for people to understand is that the congressman themselves do not write these bills. They're written by corporations. They're they're inserted into the by the lobbyist come in and they tell the people in the office to insert it. The congressman hasn't read it. That's we know that because Obamacare famously we have to pass it to see it to read it and see what's in it. That's that it's just not done that way. That's not like the office. The people in the office are hammering out these bills trying to save the world. That is a lie and don't believe these kinds of lies. It's not Diane Feinstein's office or Elizabeth Warren. They're not typing up save the world bills. These bills come from interested parties, special interest groups, SIGs and NGOs. They type up these thousand plus page corporate documents and then they submit them into the docket and then whoever pays the most to get it seen in the floor and then goes through the commissions and all this stuff. Eventually 10 years later it pops through like Affordable Care Act did or Patriot Act did. Patriot Act didn't come about because of 9-11. Patriot Act existed before that in Kentucky. The anti-terrorism bill that was passed was passed in 1998. It's passed well before 9-11. So these these things are created ahead of time. All right. Well, Kentucky and the federal government are two different entities, but that's okay. I want to go back to this idea that that I was literally I want to go. I want to go back to this idea. First of all, well, there's so many things. So I've not seen the bigger picture. The reason I'm not seeing the bigger pictures because every time I dive into these bigger pictures, shit starts falling apart. That's why it seems like you guys depend on just looking at the bigger picture. But when you look at the individual details, it just doesn't add up. So for example. So for example, Raymond's over here talking about how they're going to take your property. But then when he like gives examples of that happening, he's talking about private corporations. They are publicly traded on the stock market, but private corporations taking your property. This isn't like a government thing. If you want to stop this thing, you need the government to regulate this kind of thing. Replock. Well, it's asking the Fox to regulate the henhouse. What do you think these corporations get their subsidies from? Who do you think that they're lobbying? Who do you think that they're sleeping with? Literally. Who do you think that they're doing cocaine with? It's not you. What policies? What policies are on the books right now that's making it to where these corporations can come and take your property? And the government, I will, since this wasn't a topic, I will, I will open up this New York post article about that you could have done a go on and satisfied this random curiosity you have and look at how corporations are buying up houses and robbing families of the American dream. You can do that. I don't I don't doubt. I don't doubt that wait, wait, wait a minute. I don't doubt that corporations are buying up property. What I'm saying is that this isn't what I'm saying is that this is just like a natural phenomenon of capitalism and that's some kind of like government ploy to get government ploy. How many times do I have to tell you the World Economic Forum is a non-governmental organization. Yeah, daft. So what is your solution to this? Well, eliminate lobbies, all lobbies, including the NRA, all lobbies. So what, what, which, which regulations, which policies on the books would have not been passed to help these people buy up property without lobbies? I tell you what, I will do a little research and let you know about that. You don't know. So you wait, wait, you don't know though. Hey, why don't you keep your mouth closed for five seconds. You go and look up who Clash Fawb is and what the World Economic Forum is and become educated on whether or not you like it. We all know, you know, you're living conditions care what happens with our homes, but we do. Okay. So the left has been railing against corporatism and corporate power for a very long time. Yeah, I know. In libertarian, I would know that, wouldn't I? So look, was the civil rights movement of the 60s a lobby? I'm sure they had lobbyists inside the government. Okay. So would you say that was not a good thing or a bad thing since you're. I think that people being able to lobby the government is probably a good thing where it becomes a problem is when certain entities have a lot more lobbying power than the average person. Who does determine who those entities are good or bad? Since you have obviously have a completely different idea of what the world should be than everybody else here, right? And you disagree with everybody else here. You wouldn't want anybody else here want want to be involved in the decision of who is good or bad because obviously you think a lot of our ideas are bad. So who is your idea of who is good or bad here? That is our our objective on trying to find out on what you do here because, you know, you do play a lot of run around games. So I'm not playing run around games. I'm trying to to get down to singular points to have this discussion and not not not have a discussion about the same tax. Sorry. That's why every every time you're in a real situation, it's a random policy about flying, right? So you want to want to focus down. You want to focus down except for you don't want to focus on the on the specific science that I brought up. So you make this claim that people don't focus. Really me don't focus on specifics. I give you specifics and then you change the topic to something else, which I am. Raymond, when we were talking about article when we were talking about climate change, I double down. Okay, I double down on your cover your your statement about magnetism. I spent time trying to understand what you were trying to say about magnetism. So it wasn't me trying to ignore the specific science that you brought up time. You use some disparaging tones and then you misstated what I'm not relevant. I'm sorry that your your points turned out to be irrelevant. That's not my fault. No, your lack of education is completely relevant, but all the science that I mentioned is absolutely relevant. And guess what? NASA. So it's pretty. It's pretty hard for you. Hard for you. Must be must be really tough while you were rattling. I looked up the facts. I'm not going to change that it has no chance. So you say you want to drill down, but you changed the topic over here to talk about something completely else. So don't claim that other that other people aren't drilling down. You have changed the topic over here to talk about homes. No, wait a minute. That was you. No, I brought it up, but I didn't drill down into it. You brought it up. Yes, you brought it up. You changed the subject. I brought it up, but I didn't drill down into it. I didn't drill down into it. The topic is recall was the great reset. That was the topic. Raymond, if you're not willing to drill into a topic, then don't bring it up. Dude, to be honest with you, you always bring up topics, but you never get into the actual subject of it. You never get into what you believe. You always try to drill everybody else on what they believe, but you don't want to actually say or define what you believe. Are you talking to me? I'm not talking to you. Nillionaire, hold on. He always do it. I want to know, hold on, millionaire, do us a favor, because this is supposed to be between me and him. Listen, Clark, we were talking about the great reset. I asked me to tell you about the great reset. I tell you about the great reset and drill down into something else that turned out to be nothing to do with what we were actually talking about. You brought it up as a part of your explanation. It is a part of the great reset. That is something they have said. The World Economic Forum, a non-governmental organization, has said you will own nothing and be happy about it. They didn't say, I'm going to come steal your homes. That's not how it's working. I mean, that's the way you made it sound. I'm sorry. No, it's not. It's the way you took it because you don't look. It is. No, it isn't. And if you've asked 10,000 people on his show. You said something to the gist of. You said something to the gist of. I didn't say the magnetosphere is called climate change. I didn't say magnetosphere is called climate change. Why did you brand up for that, Magnus? Once again, try to understand the magnetosphere is a indicator of changes to the electric environment in which the sun and earth are in together around the Milky Way. It is always changing. The position relative of each and the tilt angles are also always changing. So there's a continuous variability. We had something called the monitor minimum. The monitor minimum had to do with the sun. And we were accelerating warming up out of the monitor minimum. This is a fact. You don't need me to look it up. It is something that anyone can look up the temperatures based on ice core data from hundreds of thousands of years. So you're you, you are missing the point. The changes that are happening industrialization is also happening at the same time. It's easy for us to blame ourselves, but that is not what the science shows. Well, I guarantee you that the 97% of scientists that believe in man made climate change has already taken that into consideration with their models. I bite you go do that research and ask them if ask them ask the 97% ask them, which that's that number totally bunk, but ask them. I unfortunately do not have a ask them. I'm going to give you ask them. Are they aware that all the climates are changing in the solar system? I don't want to live in on Venus. Sorry. I unfortunately do not have access to any climate scientists. I've only got access to them. I'll ask them. I mean, you're you're trusting a so-called scientist. I've got I've got the words of a Nobel laureate in my email calling the Earth two dimensional while space time is four dimensional. It's just because there are people with with letters after their name does not mean that they're necessarily honest. These people have money. They have a huge power around the world around the world. Raymond. It's not just American scientists. It's not. If we said anything about America, I didn't say anything about America specifically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I'm bringing that up. I'm bringing that up. That's a claim. I mean, the consensus is the climate is changing. However, at the same time Al Gore at the same time Al Gore was making his movie, we had not yet gone up to the space with certain types of craft, nor did we have a large hadron collider. Everything in the science has been changing very rapidly since 2015. Several paradigms have been excluded out of the standard model because things have been changing. And in fact, and the reason I brought up fusion earlier, what they teach is that gravity causes fusion gravity and high pressures, but the fusion that they're actually accomplishing are happening at magnetic Z-pences. And that is something that I have been sharing. Now, the fact that you don't understand it is irrelevant. It just means that you're just one more person that will have to relearn science in 20 years or whenever they decide to finally educate the public. In that time, they will have already crushed your economy. In that time, they will have ruined America. So watch it happen. You said something about climate is changing on other planets. Therefore, climate change on earth isn't manmade, right? No, I'm not there for it isn't manmade because that would be illogical, but it is a strong indication that we should examine the data. And when we examine the data, all we find is variability in the electric and magnetic behaviors between the sun and the earth. At the time Al Gore made his film, we had not measured the magnetic, what they call magnetic flux ropes, which are nothing more than Birkin currents connecting the sun to the earth. That was not a measurement until about 2014. And okay, so are the earth, this is, I haven't heard this claim, so I've never really had a chance to look it up. But my guess would be that other planets do not have an atmosphere that is designed to keep a constant climate regardless. Hold on, like them changing. I'm Christian, but as far as I know, you're an atheist, so what do you mean designed? Okay, so other planets aren't, well, how else would I put it besides design? They're not made up of materials that would allow for a constant temperature, climate, but the earth was, is, and are you getting God right now? What do you, are you harping on me stumbling over my words? I'm just being hilarious. What do you mean day was designed? The earth has always had variability, the earth has always had variability in its atmosphere, so you're not variability, but not to the extent the other planet. Yes, if you go back and look the amount of carbon dioxide in the environment during the time of the dinosaurs was drastically higher, drastically higher, not even a little bit. It was so thick. We would not really be able to breathe. It was very, very thick. And I'm talking actually before the dinosaurs. Before, before the, oh, so before like life was able to really sustain itself. No, no, no, do you not know this between, there was a long time of life before there were several mass extinctions before the dinosaurs mass exchange. Did you know, you do know that. Complex life. Yes. Yes. Yes, billions of years. Okay, you don't know this. Okay, so now you're educated so that you can watch their documentary series about the animals before the dinosaurs. They have nice colorful computer graphics. You'll enjoy it and you'll learn all about. We had, we had species of dragonflies two feet long before the age of the dinosaurs, right? So the earth was very different, very, very different. And carbon dioxide was way higher then. Yes. And therefore we shouldn't worry about it. Right. That's your claim. No, I didn't say don't worry about the climate change. I just said that it's going to happen. Wait a minute. I already know that you've already got your chance to talk. I already know there's some time, wait a minute. No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't this time. I already, I asked you a question. You answered it. I already know that there have been times in earth where we've had higher levels of carbon dioxide. Those are not times in which humans were living. So why are you bringing this up? No kidding. Guess what? Can I bring up the fact that there was a study that they did in the Antarctic where they had drilled ice cores trying to prove that there was a carbon change in the earth and a climate change and they actually disprove the fact that there wasn't a change. It's always been changing and the ice cores proved it with the, you know. So nobody denies, wait, wait. So nobody denies that the earth has, nobody says the earth has never been through intense periods of temperature change or climate change in the past billions of years in the past. What we're saying is thousands of years, thousands of years. What we are saying is that things to industrial revolution and the pollution that we put into the atmosphere, mainly carbon dioxide and methane, the rate at which the temperature, the climate is changing has increased to a point to where it's going to be incredibly hard for us to sustain a way of life we have on this earth right now. Well, that is a different issue. Okay. First of all, the way of life that we have now is not sustainable. Okay, I'm doing a map. You hate conspiracy facts, but it's a fact the United States military empire is way overblown and some of the things that it has done are really bad for the image of the people. By the way, so start wrapping this up. So wait, so like oil prices. That's the shit. Did I actually research? But I don't know you want to talk about that. Okay. I mean that we all know that we have to make changes as a species. We have to make change species, but it's not because suddenly Florida is going to disappear. That's just not what that's not what's happening. Well, nobody's saying that suddenly Florida is going to disappear. Some people are there are some people that are maybe pundits, but not scientists. All right. Let me ask this question. All right. We're going to switch gears here a little bit. Is Biden to blame for rises in gas prices or is it Putin? Well, I'll let Raymond answer. Well, let's focus more. Wait, hold on a second. So I don't think that Putin has that much to do with the current gas prices that we're seeing. I think that his effect is going to be seen in the future soon because because they've adjusted the futures their futures based around the fact that we are now going to stop buying Russian oil, but I'm more interested in the Biden conversation. So I'll let Raymond go ahead with it. Let's do it. Let's do the like the opening statement for a format since I've been accused of not taking a position. I'm going to go ahead and take a position, but I'm kind of cute. I want to hear what Raymond says first. Okay. It's wrong. That's the Spanish. Okay. So I'm I'm so sorry. No, I actually do apologize for getting your name wrong over and over again. Um, that's I'm not doing it on purpose. I understand. So I agree about the Putin thing except for one thing is that he has already taken active steps in in adjusting his country's economic position. And part of those included buying up gold for several years. So we we knew that this was all coming. It's kind of hilarious that the, um, the entire federal reserve, uh, or let's just call it the swift banking system, the entire thing that from the financial to the planners, etc. They all think they can control this guy, even though he has so much gold. Um, so they make public statements and then they apply these sanctions and I have a different theory as to what those sanctions are for and what they will do then clerk does. Uh, and those are primarily what's causing the, uh, changes, but there is a huge, uh, caveat, which is there were, in fact, executive orders made in January of 2021. Almost the first thing, like pretty much the first thing that Biden did when he came in was undo the Trump energy policies and insiders in the industry, Forbes magazine, CNBC, they all talked about it. It was a very openly talked about thing. However, they also said, Oh, it won't be a big deal. Inflation is not a big deal. Remember when they were saying inflation is not a big deal. So now you go and look at the thing you tell me, does Biden's, uh, executive orders have an effect? Does his position and posturing against, uh, but a Putin have an effect? And yeah, I agree that most of the things that Putin will do will show up later. So I'm, I'll, I'll agree with him on that. Okay. So my position is that Biden largely does not have much to do with the, um, the gas prices. I think that the best argument that you can have for that, and it's not even a very good one is, um, the idea that his posturing against the oil industry makes investors, um, wary about investing into oil, but like any savvy oil investor will know that the United States can't get off of oil anytime soon. At least not to a point where it's not worth investing in. Um, so I don't think that that's a very big factor in what's going on with the oil. Um, I think that the bigger factor is what's happening with oil. Real quick, before you move on to that, what do you think the bigger factor is? You don't think that's a big deal that the president and the current administration power has openly admitted that they're aligned against all forms of oil drilling or rec, reclamation. Well, that's not what they said. Um, the executive order actually is Biden's outside that. Okay. So he Biden's executive order tried to ban new, um, leases on public lands for drilling oil. They tried to. It didn't go through because it was fought in the courts. So like, well, as far as I know, the lands that are there are either those 9,000 lands compared to 35,000 under Trump. Those 9,000, like they're not like oil rich or anything. Right. Yeah, they're there. A lot of them are dead wells. Um, and I want to point out and sorry, wait, you don't want to get an opening statement. Like, okay, go ahead. No, I got interrupted by drone tech. Yeah, you're right. By the moderator. Sorry. Oh, I say silent for a really long time. All right, Chris. I'm sorry, you're right. You're right. My bed. So where was I? So yeah, it is posturing against the oil companies. I don't think has much, uh, much effect on whether or not investors are going to invest in this commodity that everyone knows that people need. Um, I think the bigger effect was the fact that oil prices went in the negatives in 2020. Um, and oil companies and investors alike lost a lot of money then. So now they are refusing to drill, um, because they want to try and make that money back for their investors. Um, the other thing is, is that futures prices until recently, I'm not sure what they look like since the sanctions were against Russian oil were announced, but future prices were actually predicted to go down in the future. If oil companies are seeing that and they are, um, and they're making a decision to whether they're going to invest money in drilling or not, they're probably not going to invest money in drilling because they don't want that price to go down even further. So those are probably the biggest two factors that are causing the, um, rise in oil prices right now. Um, this is just the fact that oil companies aren't drilling for various reasons and they aren't drilling not because they don't have the land to drill. It's not because Biden is keeping them from getting the land that they need to drill because there are thousands of acres that are still undrilled. Um, they are restricting their supplies whenever, whenever you feel you've said your piece. That's right. Okay. I'm almost done. Um, there's thousands of acres that oil companies are just sitting on and not investing in drilling. Um, because they just want to make more money for their investors and that's my piece. Okay. So, you know, I would, I would love if someone in the audience, uh, who works in the oil industry can, uh, you know, fact check what, uh, Clark just said, I will say that I have some dubiousness about your position because up till very recently, you didn't know the Keystone pipeline actually was a working pipeline for many years. So I find extremely problematic because you had the same position before and even after getting new information, you didn't change your, your mind. However, um, uh, let me, let me finish my other points. My future assessment may or may not pan out. I'll be interested to see, um, as for whether or not they want to drill, uh, I would think that we need to see someone from the inside the industry actually say that. However, the data about the prices is very clear. Yes. The prices fell off. The negative thing was a very specific situation. It was a very, uh, it was a market, uh, situation investment opportunity and somebody made a killing off that when the bounten, the prices came back up, they kept rising beyond the average prices from before and that's the key. The changes to the, um, with the executive orders came in just before that steep incline. So the executive policies, I will say this after he shut down Keystone, the, uh, pipe theater industry, the pipe phase pipe theater union, they completely denounced Biden altogether and they were actually, uh, Democrat supporters too. Everybody that's been the Democrat supporter has completely, you know, stopped supporting him as far as all the unions. There's great. Oh, are you in the oil industry? So one, one thing, one thing I'm not in the oil industry, but I know a lot of people that are, but I'm a carpenter myself, but I can say about the carbon free issue too. You know, all the stuff that we're going through and all that. Hey, I guess I'm a public sector for the debate. I've been having a, having an opinion. I'm sorry. I am oil adjacent. Hello, Jason. How do you feel about Clark's statement? What do you, what do you, it doesn't seem why doesn't matter. This is a conversation between me and you. First of all, secondly, he could be like a, a, a secretary for like, just because you're part of the oil industry doesn't mean you understand how about you calm down. And he's right though. He's right though. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. He's right though. It isn't especially between him and Raymond. I'm just saying I wouldn't go up to like some, I wouldn't go to a Walmart cashier and you're like, Hey, should I be investing in Walmart? Right now. Like that's not how that works, but I was going to interject earlier, but once I realized that this was actually some kind of quasi formal debate, I, I, I really, I am near had to unplug my mic, but rather than, rather than just have me give statements about Clark's statements on the oil industry, if you've got some more pointed questions, I'll answer them if I can. Yeah. I guess grown wants to have a Q and a thing afterwards. Um, so you have a reply. Yeah. So you mentioned, um, the Keystone pipeline thing. Um, that, uh, after I found out that the Keystone pipeline had been mostly completed and somewhat and mostly operational, I still didn't change my position. Um, that's because that fact. Yeah. Yeah. That fact actually makes my position stronger because people were blaming the Keystone. Yeah. So people were blaming the key, uh, the, the destruction of the, or the, uh, Biden canceling the Keystone pipeline for, um, the gas prices, same things like, well, uh, we were going to get a shale oil from Canada, but then Biden canceled the Keystone pipeline and now gas prices are going up. Well, if we, if the most of the pipeline was completed and already operational, if we're already getting that oil from Canada down to the south, um, with the pipeline that has been completed, then, um, then like that talking point is just moot anyways. Um, the only thing it would have did was make it easier to take oil two states over. I think it was. So like, I don't really, I don't, I don't. Huh. Go ahead. You brought up futures. Okay. If you know that, uh, pipeline is going to expand and you believe that, uh, your industry is going to benefit from that. The futures are going to indicate and price in that expansion and when, when the pipeline is canceled and when other policy is the only executive order that went through it was Keystone. Um, other things you're going to suddenly not want to produce oil and you're going to start selling off and who are you going to sell to foreign adversaries, foreign companies, foreign countries, OPEC, Venezuela, whatever. And the thing is this happened before and guess what the people who voted for Obama can we stick to that one point? Can we stick to that one point, please? I do that. I want to make a point. This is an important point. You're making a different point. It's over the point. And it's important when Obama did that to coal, everyone on the, on the left, they said, cause he had come in saying, I'm going to get all this clean coal. Then he killed coal and I know I watched it happen because my, uh, family is out there. And when he did that, then everybody on the left said, oh, he's not killing coal. Look at all the data. Don't believe you're lying eyes. Meanwhile, Appalachia suffered and that's the facts historically. The same thing is happening. It's called smash and grab economics. Okay. So, um, the point that you made about futures. My understanding is that oil company, the way that futures affected oil prices, the actual mechanism in which futures affect oil prices is that oil companies will look at futures and what people are investing in, what people are predicting that the oil prices are going to do in the future and make decisions on whether they're going to pump now based around that. So if something like a pipeline was going to make gas cheaper, they would probably pump less because they don't want to pump more oil into an, uh, into a market that's already going to have cheap oil. So like that would do the opposite. Say that again. What industry, what industry wouldn't do that? What, what, uh, period. No, no, no industry wants to saturate their market with supply. No, you're, you're making an argument. You're making an argument that all these, uh, big oil industries are just taking advantage of everybody, but you're, but then you're just saying like, I never said taking advantage. I don't think it's trying to say, to sound like that. It may be that, that it tends to hear that way on account of, um, when you are on the left. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not what he's saying, but I'm agreeing with what you're saying, but I'm, I'm not seeing, you're not connecting how that disproves the fact that Biden had executive orders that came out in January of 2021. That's, yeah. Most, yeah, yeah, most, most presidents sign executive orders when they first get into office. That's correct. Specifically about the oil industry, which was doing so well and all of us were paying the cheapest gas that we had paid in 10 years. Specifically that you don't think those things are connected? No, I really don't because they haven't been connected. It's kind of crazy, dude. That's kind of crazy. You don't think there's no connection yet? Raymond, Raymond, Raymond, you know, I took the biggest shit of my life and, um, before oil prices, the gas prices went up. Do, do, are those two things connected? Wow. Yeah, but the, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everybody hold on, everybody hold on. But Clark, you have to admit that the president literally said, he said during the debates, right? During the Democrat primaries, he said that, uh, he was like, no drilling, no anything. He's like, we're going to completely cut off their ability to do anything. He said that. Well, I'm paraphrasing, but he said that. He was like, we're going to like fuck them up basically. It basically, that was the, that's how he lost that debate, actually. That was everybody on the left freaked out because they were, what is he doing? That was going to alienate all the people in Pennsylvania, which is probably why they had to cheat to win Pennsylvania, but we won't change the subjects. Clark, if the level of your, of your debate is to talk about your bowel movements, I'll just go ahead and declare victory now, but I will tell you exactly where it happened in January of 2021. You can hate on that. You can hate on the trend of the prices. All of us that pay like ass electric bills for our houses already understand. This is abnormal stuff. Now the Raymond, Raymond, you're saying, Oh, he signed executive orders that has to do with oil and 2021 gas prices went up. Therefore, those two are connected. It's just as asinine as me saying that I took a shit. That that's why I did that. It's not that it really is what is disturbing about your line of thinking. Clark, what do you think about? What do you think about like people warning about inflation before the as they were promoting the new Green Deal? Oh, I'm sorry, the built back better, which is basically a new Green Deal. Right. Well, they're promoting that. They were like, no, no, they're saying there'd be no inflation and yet there has been. Don't take people have been warning about inflation since the 1990s. Right. But like literally, it's like textbook kind of stuff. It's like, so wait, a broken clock is right. No, no, it's not about the clock. It's like that's that's what that is. No, no, it's about like it's like predictable a million miles away. And then there it is. It's like it's like textbook predictable. And then there it is. That's what it is. No, no, it wasn't. Yeah, the thing is, but you see the one time where where you guys or the right screaming Oh inflation inflation inflation has actually been somewhat right, but you haven't seen the the what was it 20 22 years when y'all were screaming that that it was wrong. No, no. You are not qualified to talk to me. All right, at this point, guys. All right, at this point, I want to do some closing arguments and we'll just kind of open it up. I do want to do so here's what I want to do a closing argument on this question. Is Joe Biden very simple is Joe Biden's policies, especially on the energy, which I will point out our as far as polls go, his energy policy is as far as it relates to oil production is the most important thing to a majority of voters. It's his energy policy directly contributing to inflation and the gas prices or is it and that's closing. Do I go first? Yeah. Okay, no, it's it's not directly contributing the oil prices gas prices would have went up. The oil companies have everything they need from the government in order to pump. They're just not doing it because they want to make higher profits because they lost a lot of money in 2020. That's that's pretty much as clean cut as I can make it. Okay, it's not bad. It's not bad. If my position is that is really quite extremely different, which is that a Biden has participated in the purposeful killing of the American energy industry and that's why the prices are going up and that purposeful killing includes ridiculous sanctions, which everyone knows would not work anyways. And it's all just a dog and pony show. They are fleecing the American public out of the money. Now, I don't know if it's the big oil industry that is the primary beneficiary because 20% of a million is a lot more than 20% of 100,000. But I would say that it's not good for America in the same way that, you know, giant corporation big box companies being in small towns kills small towns. It's not good to just allow foreign adversaries to participate in crushing our energy industry buying it up and then controlling it and never allowing it to to be powerful. We will never achieve the energy independence. The left says that they want that way. It just won't happen because OPEC has no interest in greening up the planet. And that's my position as for Biden. I would say Biden is more fraudulent than incompetent and if he is incompetent, it comes from his mental intrepitude, but you know, I think it's actually purposeful and I recommend that people take a look at what China has declared upon us upon the Declaration of Independence, upon the Bill of Rights and take it seriously and take steps to protect their families and prepare for what's coming. So that's my position. Are we doing a Q&A? I got about 10 minutes before I want to go to sleep. Yeah, I know I'm getting there too, bro. Do you want to have a clothing statement or do you just want to do that Q&A? No, just Q&A is fine. All right. Yeah. Yeah. All right, folks. So if you have any questions you want to throw to either of these guys, either Raymond or a liberal clock. We also have one. You'll have to read them out to me. Right. I will. And then we'll open it up to whoever's in channel here and you guys can join us if you want. Well, there's something I want to ask like seriously when the COVID pandemic happened, the price of petrol actually went below a dollar during the early days of the pandemic. So how come that could actually happen? Oil goes so low. That's what you're asking? Yeah, so this was the lockdown. The demand for oil dropped drastically and then the negative prices it had to do with storage costs of the oil and they basically needed to pay somebody to get rid of the oil because they could not afford the storage. That's actually pretty interesting argument like it's amazing how how society and government policy can influence how the cost of living actually works. If I can actually interject on some of that, what it has to actually has to do with is there are so many refineries around the world and they can refine so many barrels of oil per day and they're built around a roughly constant demand ratio like there's there's actually some algebra that goes in behind it. And so your demand, this is why like gas prices in the summer always go up is because that's when people take vacations and instead of using, you know, like two, three, four tanks of oil or gas per month, they go up to like eight or 12 or 16 because they're traveling across country from California to New York to go see friends and family and stuff like that. Well, as as Raymond said, when the COVID pandemic happened, right, and you had all of the big cities, which are the biggest demanders and users of oil. When they locked down and you have people not working, you know, or or only your essential employees or whatever the hell they were doing, right? The demand dropped through the roof. They could not get rid of their refined oil. They had no place to store it refined petroleum products actually have a shelf life and the modern shit where we're using our subsidized corn to actually make, you know, additional diesel and gasoline actually have a far shorter shelf life because of the acidity inherent in the corn based products. This is why like your flex fuel vehicles have different seals on them, different rubbers actually handle the acidity, the increased acidity that goes along with using corn products in your gas tank. And so they couldn't get rid of what they had already refined as fast as they were used to. They couldn't they can't store their refined product without it going bad and essentially going worse. And then the crude oil like that they've already, I mean the the they actually calculate the I knew a guy that actually wrote some of the code for the SAP software that they use and actually ordering these products and they literally like the units that they order stuff in and our train car, right? And so these these orders and stuff actually go out like a year ahead of time, right? And so supposedly like no one actually knew that this stuff was coming and that's why your bottom dropped out Raymond is right. They were literally paying the tankers to keep off shore in the Gulf of Mexico because there was no point in refining it because they couldn't actually unload the product that they were making. And this is why you're you're the price per gallon or price per liter of petroleum products drop through the floor. Okay, that's what I was referring to is price per liter to all those from America, I was referring to price per liter like he went down a bit below a dollar. I gather that since you said it was a dollar and I've lived a while and I have not seen gas for less than a dollar a gallon since sometime in the 90s when I first started driving. And the answers, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt the answers essentially the same because something that you got to understand is that like we aren't in a isolated oil market. We're in a global oil market. So if America is pumping more oil, it's going to drop prices for the world if OPEC is pumping more oil, it's going to drop prices for the world. If the world is going through a pandemic demand is going to drop for the world. Therefore prices are going to drop all over the world. So yeah. Yeah, we all agree on that. So you actually said that if America pumped more oil the price would go down. But isn't that the point of actually the pipeline? No, the pipeline wasn't to pump more. It was to transport more oil. But we already have the pipeline, most of the pipeline built the pipeline would have just transported it from like I think it's like Arizona to New Mexico or some shit. No. So the pipeline that you're the Keystone pipeline right is actually designed to tap into the tar sands up in Canada. Yeah, we already have that part. Yeah. The important thing to realize about this. Okay. Is that back in the 90s when this pipeline was first proposed. Okay. Scientists were actually against it. Not because of economics, not because of petroleum reasons, not because of climate reasons. Scientists were against it because they said the quality of the crude oil was too low to remotely be economically affordable or to be clean enough to actually be used for anything other than heating oil or possibly some really old crude diesel. New products and so they are more interested in it. But the point is if there were more flowing, if the executive orders hadn't had an ended that the prices would absolutely be lower. They would be lower. I have no idea what clucks position. I don't understand where he's coming up with his idea. But if the price would be lower, I will have a problem. Well, first of all, it wouldn't be done by now. Let me ask you a question. It would probably be about the average price that oil prices were before the lockdown crash. Probably you think that it would go down by an entire dollar if we were able to transport oil through a pipeline because let's keep in mind it's already being transported in other ways. If it was able to, if we were able to transport oil two states over, you think that the oil would go down by a dollar. The logistics would actually cost small. What do you think the cheapest way to transport oil is? Oh, it's going to be a pipeline. He's asked a specific question. I want to throw out there. Not just cheapest, but actually most environmentally friendly. Yes, it depends on what part of the environment you're talking about. And so whenever America just completely shuts down all their pipelines, all right, all of them, like they're literally trying to shut down all of them over the Green New Deal, over all that, all that stuff you were talking about earlier, you know, even though it wasn't passed, it is still getting passed. All right. That's what I was trying to get to you before. All right. You know, all this Green New Deal stuff, it's getting passed and it's not helping. We've been going to be good. You've been going to this over generations for a long time. All right. And America is when you talk about the energy industry, they have shut down since Trump, they have completely shut down all energy and dependency. No, wait, that's another thing. We're still energy. And wait, no, we are not energy independent at all. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. No, we're not. If we're energy independent, we would have prices lower. And that's also not true. Right over this video. Yes, it is. We won't be under. We had one. We were on the site of energy. Let's respond. Let's do watch. Did you watch drones video? No, I don't watch drone text videos as I would imagine he doesn't watch my videos. Oh, there you go. Oh, you don't know. I do watch them. No, we are. Let Trump explain to you how the numbers were wrong. Can he start? Can you start with the definition of energy independent? I'm going to make sure we're talking about the pendant. Well, here's what I think. Okay, okay. No, no, let's drone. Let's do the video. Let's let's see. Because drone covered how they were like this. So I want him to actually answer. Wait, what am I answering? What am I answering exactly? Not the drone about the energy independence topic that you'd Yeah, I mean, so yeah, the pie like you hear a lot. Sockie always talking about, oh, it's just the pipeline would not affect anything. And that's not actually true. And she she's always like, oh, it's just like a tool for transporting. Yeah, but for one, transporting is going to be way cheaper. It's going to be more cost effective. It's going to be more environmentally friendly as long as there's no leaks, obviously, which are rare, right? Way more rare than vehicle like truck crash is that kind of thing. And over time over time, a quick amount of time, like just a couple of years. If that like we're going to be seeing the benefits of that and just those pipelines going just just that happening on its own has an effect on the market. And also the we we in this country could be actually, you know, they talk about the cost. If we're getting our own oil, guess what? We decide the cost or obviously the companies that are drilling it decided. But obviously, if we're it's an American company drilling American oil, we're going to get the benefit of the doubt on that, right? Yeah, I would say that that. No, no, absolutely not. Oh, you just cut way into me. Trump's whole make America great again. People were like, oh, he wants to go back to like civil rights issues and segregation. That was all bullshit. What he really wanted was an America, a dominant America like he grew up with. And that is exactly his vision was energy independence, true energy independence, not global global economy into energy independence, but actual subsistence on our own. That's what his vision was, right? And we can do that. We can do it and those by the way, by the way, by the way, those 9000 sites, I did want to just throw in there like from everything I've read and trying to read as much as I can as far as I could read basically this deal with those sites is that there's shit sites and it's going to cost money to explore them and they already know that there's not enough oil on the air for him to be that's to be good. And they need more sites and Biden and his administration have openly expressed that they are not going to give out those permits and they have given out way less than Trump gave out. Trump gave out, I want to say around 35,000 or something around there, which there should have been more than that, but 9000 like that's way less. And you got to understand that it's a numbers game with oil, right? Because it's okay. So wait, you're supposed to be answering the question about energy independence. I didn't hear anything about energy. Well, the whole idea is the whole idea. The whole idea is that like we're drilling and getting all of our own oil and then exporting extra. Okay. So do you know what the word energy, do you know what the term energy independence means? Oh my God, here we go. Yeah. Get it. Actually, energy independence, all of our energy comes from our country and we're not dependent on any other country or dependent on anybody for anything. It's at least our allies. So typically when we talk about energy independence, it means that we are exporting more oil than we are imported. That's what they said. You don't have to export more than you're importing. You just have to like be, you just have to have enough to cover your own self and then exporting is just extra. I mean, that didn't even, that's not, has nothing to do with it. For its own than export it, our prices would go down because we have more oil and petrol to actually use, which means the logistics and exporting costs would go down because we're exporting less oil for other countries and we're using it for ourselves. So of course it will go down because we're not exporting too much. The idea is we're not dependent on fucking Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia. That's all that really matters. I will have an analogy that will help plug. Okay. There's a difference between cash flow independence, which is where your income exceeds your expenses and just making a lot more money than you spend. Those are not, there's, that's not the same thing and you're mixing. No, so when you look up, when you look up what they meant by Trump was energy independent, that is what they meant. They were exporting more oil than they were importing and it wasn't even more oil. Whether or not we were truly energy independent under Trump, it was definitely a better situation. Pause for a second. All right. Clark, I think you seriously have an emotional investment. Come on, come on, let's not get personal. Let's just say all of us. Every time you talk to Ramon, you get a completely different tone with people. All right. All right. Come on. Just saying. All right. I'm under a skin. I will admit freely. I've been teaching him the ways of Yuri Bezmenov. So, you know, I don't even know what that name is. Anyways, you don't know that name. You don't know that name. If there's a lot of damn thing you need to learn in life, you need to watch the 1984 interview with Yuri Bezmenov. You just said that guy. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. He's in that case. He could be, I guess. I don't really know. Can we please, can we please get back to this idea of energy independent? Yes. Stop. Everybody stop. Everybody stop. Everybody stop. Let's let Clark say something and then on to Ramon, who is the person he's arguing with? So when people say we were energy independent on a truck, what they meant was that we had more exports than we did imports, but it wasn't even like all oil. It was all the oil products put together that we had more exports or than imports. But when it comes to crude oil, we still had more imports than we did exports. And that's the exact same situation that we are still in today. We have overall more exports than we do imports. But when it comes to crude oil, we have more imports than we do exports. And when people try to say things like if we were energy independent, that would make gas cheaper. That's just not true because a gas company is not going to give America favorable prices when they can sell their oil to another country at a higher price. That's not a bad point. That's not a bad point. Well, I got to reply. I got to reply. That's not a bad point. I think he might be he might be right about that actually. Yeah, he might. Your argument is sort of like a vaccine could work if you change the name and definition of what a vaccine is. And then it would work. The simple fact is you might be right about what they were saying under Trump. I never understood us as being yet energy independent. I understood us as heading towards energy independence, which means we don't need energy. The real definition of energy energy independence is we don't need energy from adversaries like Venezuela, Iran, Russia, etc. Then we have all of our own energy here. We have all the oil and natural gas that we need to then recreate our industry and create true green energy such as thorium nuclear. While we're here arguing about gender pronouns, China is building a thorium nuclear reactor. So real quick. Real quick, Raymond, can I just go ahead? Yeah, so real quick, I just went back in my Discord and typed in search bar energy independent and I have a message from you. According to this, we were energy independent in 2021. So it looks like you were under the impression that we were energy and printed. Are you talking about an article that got shared? I guess. Okay, are we just going to start? I'm just going to start pulling up actual random articles about the subject. I'm telling you what most of us who understood what make America great again meant. It meant that America would be strong enough. We would have more jobs. We would have good trucking. Families would be promoted. Taxes would be low and energy independence and energy independence means we don't have to rely on adversaries, including China for energy and sources of products. And that would be all of our logistics. We have a huge logistics dependence on China and we're undoing it. It's called decoupling, but it's going to take a long time. And there are a lot of vested interests trying to keep us from decoupling with China. And it ain't just China. There are internal parties that are trying to keep that from happening because they have investments in America and in China. And it's a huge, huge problem. And all of these issues are related. If you don't see they're related, then I can't. I don't know. I can't help you with that. I can tell you the energy issue is crucial, which is why it was the first thing the Biden administration did. They came in and exploit what Trump had done. I will give you credit on one thing. I do appreciate you changing your stance when I presented you with more information. So that's really, that was information. You're quoting information I shared. What are you talking about? Let me let me just say real quick. It's actually been a really good. I thought this has been a really good discussion between Clark and Raymond. They're both really knowledgeable people, real smart people. And I've actually really enjoyed listening to you guys. I would like to continue this, but I am fucking. I'm tired and I got to be up early. So here's the thing. We were going to continue with anybody who wants to continue here in the channel. If you guys want to join us, people are watching. Come on over. Join us. I welcome you. I do appreciate Clark coming over here. Check out his YouTube channel. Check out his discord. I don't have one anymore. I don't do any of that. Okay. Well, he's a good guy. Internet. He's either way. He comes in here. Look at this. He's one guy. There's like there's like a dozen people this channel. So good for him. And I think he he he argues his side very well and respectfully. And I appreciate that. Thanks. Fuck. No problem. You'll have a good night. You too, man. And you too as well. Thanks a lot, Raymond. Man, you're a smart mofo and I'm glad you're around here. Oh, no problem. And I will gladly hang out and discuss the issues. I am going to play some video games. So as long as I might do a little bit of it as well. So all right, guys, fun night. We'll do this again. Try to organize something like this next Thursday. Everybody. Thanks for watching. And I will catch you all next Thursday or in tomorrow as well. All right. See you guys. Oh.