 Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim, Allahumma salli wa sallim wa sallim ala Sayyidi al-Muhammad. So this is the huge hookah training session on October 6th in MCC. And thank you for everybody who's joined and for those who are going to be watching online or watching later. This will be a training that we'll use to help all of the various MSAs. So let's just jump right into it. What I'm going to do with this session, we have about three hours, we'll stop after every hour for like a just a quick five minute break, but it's going to be a little bit intense because we're going to have to get through a lot of material. The first hour, I'm going to go over the fifth of the hookah, it's, and we're just going to break it really, break it down to the bare minimum of what we need to know. And then the second one is to talk about delivery methods and how to speak and public speaking. And then the third session, we'll be talking about actually what topics you should be focusing on in the hookahs. So to begin with, let me ask you, let's go right into the bare minimum obligations of a hookah, right? What are, first of all, what is the obligation or what is the ruling of Juma and the hookah? Is it recommended? Is it Sunnah? Is it a problem? Yes. Is it a problem? It is a problem. Yeah. Are there, are there any conditions to that? If women, if they're sick, or if there's certain things that they're not. Well, in terms of like actually establishing it. So here's the first question. Do you have to establish Juma and hookah on your high school or your college campus? Do you have to? No. You don't? I agree. Why don't you, why don't you have to establish it? Yes. This is not a proper environment. It's not a proper environment. Okay, so that's one. It's not a proper environment. What else? The majority of people there are not Muslim. The majority are not Muslim? Okay. There are other facilities that do a better job at it. Okay. There's other facilities you talk about like the Masajid, right? There's other Masajids that do a better job. What else? Maybe some people in the capital aren't as knowledgeable and they might make a mistake. That's a good point. Some people in the campus are not as knowledgeable. They might make a mistake. Okay. So those are all, that's a good place to start, which is we know that the Friday prayer is an obligation. And we know that the khubba is a part of that as an obligation. But the question then becomes who has to establish that? And that's, and then what do we do? Do you leave campus and go to a Masjid? Or do you stay on campus and do a Juma? Or do you stay on campus and just do a Friday session? When I was in high school, I went to high school in Fremont. Everybody go to any of those football games, Huskies? Yeah? Yeah. You did? Yeah. My colleagues would play for them. Oh, really? For Washington? Yeah. Washington. Okay. So I never really got into the sports, but they are very like a proud sport. I guess most high schools are, right? Yeah. So what we did when I was in 9th grade, they started the MSA. And that was really good for me. Even I attributed a lot of my personal development as a Muslim to work at the MSA. To being at the MSA, to being with other people. The majority of why we are Muslim, especially if you're born into a Muslim family, is your family is who is making you Muslim. Just remember that. The major reason why you are Muslim, and well ultimately the Hidayah is from Allah SWT. Because Allah chose you to be Muslim. But how did He make that happen in the world? He put you in a Muslim family. If somebody is a teenager and they are high school or college and they are converted to Islam, it's a little bit different. But there's even a lot of what their parents might have given them that set them on the road to Islam. So they can attribute a lot of their first stages of guidance to their parents and making them a good person and teaching them some basics of traditions that are connected to a tradition of revelation. But it's really your parents. The reason why I say that is because the majority of who you are Muslim is your parents. You're never going to have any shade or teacher in your entire life that has a greater right on you than your parents. Because they gave you the most important thing that you have in this life, which is, what is the most important lesson? What is the most important thing that you have as a Muslim? Even more important than either the shahada. The shahada, right? Isn't that the most important thing? Who gave that to you? Your parents. So they don't ever, except from any person in the future, a sheikh, a teacher, even if they teach you the intricacies of tafsid of the Quran, they teach you hip-hop of the Quran, they teach you anything. Is any of that as great as it is? Is it anything better than the shahada? No, the shahada is the foundation. You've got that from your parents. So keep that in mind when you're going to conferences, when you're going to the masjid, when you're involved in the MSA. It's all going to help you develop your Islam, but the foundations were laid by your family. I'm just saying that because, you know, I mentioned, I said the MSAs were really pivotal in helping me develop my Islam, and it's developing the Islam. The Islam was there from my parents. So it's really important to have those meetings at the MSA and to get together. Whether you as an MSA choose to actually have it on Friday and have it as a Juma or have it as just a gathering, that's a choice that you and the MSA will make. Because I know when we were, let me back up, when I was in high school they started the MSA. At first we had a guest speaker and he would come in every Friday, and he would actually lead us in a Juma. Then he sent another person and then that person said, well, the conditions for Juma prayer are not here and he feels more comfortable just making it a lesson. Does that make sense? So he did. And then after that, then I started leading them, but see, I didn't know all the rules. So what you were saying about, you know, how people will lead Juma and not... So for anybody out there who led Juma behind me when I was in 10th or 11th grade, repeat your prayers. Because it was not a valid Juma. That's why it's important to know the fit and to know how to have a valid Juma. But nonetheless, it was still very good to bring those things together on campus. I mean, to give you an idea, we would have, because we didn't know the rules, so I would give the top, sitting into the science classroom. So it was actually a little bit like this. The science classes right now, the teacher is standing a little higher than the class, and then he has that table with the sink in it. So our science teacher was the advisor. He was a very nice man, and church-going, and he respected religion. So he was the advisor to our NSA. We had our Friday meetings in his room. I would give the talk, and then the students, some of them would be eating their lunch during my talk, my hookah. And then afterwards, move the table and we would pray to our class. Whether or not that was a valid Juma, I would probably say it's not valid, because now after having studied and looking back on, oh wow, I missed this point, and I missed this point. But it was good for the Muslims to get together and to go through that process to congregate and talk to each other. But that's a choice that you'll make, whether we actually do it as a hookah, whether we bring in an outside speaker, I think it's always best to have the people from the NSA trained in how to do this. The Juma, what are the things that makes a Juma hookah and a Juma prayer valid? So we'll just go and see what everybody has. Salawah in the prophet? What's that? That's like the one thing that's mandatory. Salawah first. And speaking is like that's an option, right? So in the reason I'll explain why I'm doing this as a grid. So you said Salawah like sending prayers on the prophet Salawah, right? Okay, what else? Like the khutbah Arabic part? The khutbah Arabic part, right? So, alright, what else? First starts off with an adhan. What's that? First starts off with an adhan Is that something that if it's not there the Juma is invalid? I'm not sure, but that's what we're going to start. So let's say the adhan. What's that? English hookah? Whatever language whatever country you're in what's the national language? Okay, so national language. That's what today is all about, right? Well, that has to be the intention. Intention? That's right. Yeah, so we're going to have intention. Well, the thing is that all actions are dependent on intention so I'll put that up here. I'll put that up here. Intention. Okay. We'll do? Yeah, that's actually across the board. Anything else? You can just say something else, comes to mind. The interval. Just think about when you go to a Juma and say a Damesh, and you see the Imam's doing different things but what are some of those things that you notice that should be there between the Arabic which there's usually the pause, right? The pause or the sitting, right? What else? You see that? Okay. So call to Ikama. What else? What I wanted to do with this is just show you we know that our according to our deen, the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam the way of the Qur'an and the Sunnah was preserved by the four medics, right? So there's Shafi'i, Hanafi, Maliki and then the Hanbali. And each one of those schools have different requirements for what is required for a Juma Khubba. I put here, these are actually extra things. So the call to Ikama, you don't have to like, as a bare minimum even if this call to Ikama is not there, the Khubba is still valid. Does that make sense? If there's no English Khubba, and I'll explain like that the Khubba is still valid. If there's no Adhan, the Khubba the Khubba is still valid. These ones are all. So everyone is going to say that there has to be an intention. Because of the Hadith Inna mal Ahmad Bin Niyat. Barely actions are by their intention, right? So if you stand up and you start going through the motions of a prayer, and somebody says, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't know, I was just going through the motions of the prayer. You didn't have an intention. So the action that Ibadah is not there. So all actions of Ibadah have to have an intention. They all say you have to have Wulu. They all say you have to have an Arabic Khubba. But the difference is like, what is the minimum of that? And they generally all say that there has to be a pause for a sitting. The only school that actually requires so a lot on the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam as a requirement is the Shaferi school. The Arabic Khubba here in the Shaferi school, yes, they require Arabic Khubba. But you can add in something else. You can add in another language. In the Hanafi, they say, yes, you have to have Arabic and no long pause. Now generally, the Khubba that I'm saying, the only one that I see most MSAs should be following is the Hanafi school. So we're going to be focusing on the fifth of the Hanafi school. And I'll explain why. No long pause, the same thing here. No long pause. So you know how a lot of people at most Masajid will have like they'll do an Arabic introduction and then maybe a 20 or 30 minute English lecture and then they sit down and they stand out a little bit of Arabic and then English. So when we look at this from the Fiqh, the law, think of that English as if it's a pause. So what if I went up there and I said Alhamdulillah, peace be upon you. And then I'm quiet for 20 minutes. And then I start. Is that pause problematic in the Khubba or not? Okay, so when we speak another language other than Arabic, it's like making a pause. The Shafa is at least from my understanding and speaking to people who have studied and followed the Shafa school, it's okay to have that Arabic and then the English and then the Arabic and then the prayer. That pause there's no problem with the pause. Does that make sense? The Hanafis, there is an issue with that and the Ma'adikis also have an issue with that. So that's why in the number of Masajid you'll see where the English talk is presented as a bayan. Have you noticed that? So the speaker will actually sit down and give the English talk or give the majority of the lesson, the talk in that English part and then after that then they'll stand up on the middle and just give an Arabic only Khubba. Does that make sense? Has everybody seen that? Have you ever seen that? So basically the person will be sitting down giving a talk in English and then after that English talk is done then they'll stand up on the middle and begin the actual official Khubba. So if you've seen that basically and the term that's used for that is they call it bayan. Now that's not something that was originally something the Prophet SAW did to have a bayan before the Khubba but it solves the issue of for the majority of the world if we just gave in all Arabic Khubba are most people going to benefit from that in the lesson? In the Jum'ah? They're not. So what people said is like okay let's add I've seen this even in the Arab world sometimes they do this. In Mauritania I've seen some of the top scholars they give a long Arabic speech about Khubba. So the difference is excuse me, the difference would be that during that bayan you know the prohibition of talking while the person is while the Khapim is on the memba? Can you technically talk to your friend during the bayan? Yes or no? No. You can't? Why not? Because it's disrespectful. Well if it's disrespectful, yes it's not adab so we shouldn't talk but is it haram like it's haram to speak during the Khubba? Because it's the bayan. But of course people should, they should treat it like the bayan. So in your MSA you can choose one of, you can choose those two methods. You can choose bayan just give a long English talk and then the two short Arabic Khubba was in the prayer. And I'll explain how to do that or you can you can do where you added the English but you're going to have to I'll explain how we can address that but let's just get through the fit of what are some of the basic, the bare minimum so the salawah. The shafi'ah say you have to have a salawah. The shafi'ah also have to say an order to taqwa. You have to have an order to taqwa. You also have to have one of the requirements is du'a for the believers. Now one of the reasons why I'm mentioning all of the various ones is because we're going to stick with the Hanafi school or like how to do the khubba in the same but you should include aspects of the shafi'ah school just to cover the grounds. Does that make sense? So that if somebody has studied the shafi'ah school and he says oh well you know your khubba wasn't valid because in my school you have to have an order to taqwa so they have to have there's a recitation of an ayah, it's not here but they also have some other requirements the Hanafi, the only requirement is dhikr. You have to do dhikr. For those of you who memorize surah juma'ah or memorize the Quran Allah says dhikr is la like we're starting with juma'ah so that was the proof of the Hanafi scholars that Allah says for the juma'ah go to the dhikr of Allah it's a powerful proof too go to the dhikr of Allah so the Hanafi scholars consider that as long as some form of dhikr is present in the khubba then that's what the khubba is the matakis considered that the bare minimum of a khubba is that it has to be what the Arabs knew as a khubba so the matakis considered what the Arabs considered was a khubba which was basically a speech in Arabic that is calling people to something the Shafri said no it's specifically you have to say ittafullah in the order form it has to be an order so you'll hear people saying in English that I enjoy you and I enjoy myself to have taqwa of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala so when you're formulating your khubba the Arabic portion you should have dhikr in there you should have Arabic because all of them say Arabic you should include some order of taqwa a basic form format if you mention one of the ayahs taqwa of Allah one of the ayahs where Allah is mentioning taqwa with an order to taqwa you get a lot of things in that ayah you get the Shafri's order to taqwa you get the Hanafi's order to there has to be dhikr because the Quran is a form of dhikr and it is what the matakis would consider to be a valid khubba so how many people do you need for Jama'at? yes at least two okay so you say two people in the congregation yeah at least I think for the Hanafi's it's three for the Hanafi's it's three it's three plus the emab right? two plus the emab two plus the emab okay so three all together so three all together which is two plus the emab the matakis consider 13, 12 plus the emab and the Shafri's consider 40 so 39 plus the emab and all of this difference comes out from what constitutes a Jama'at what constitutes a congregation so you can see in most MSAs which one are you going to which one might you hit the Hanafi definitely right for sure the Shafri unless you're at a college MSA you're probably not and this is 40 men this is all we're talking about men so that's not including any sisters that are so it's 40 it's 40 men now you might get into your MSA 13 but then you come into another problem the matakis consider which is it has to be in a Masjid have you ever heard anybody say oh Jama'at has to be in a Masjid so you might have heard that and the reason why I'm giving you this grid is because you might hear different things from different people and they're like oh Jama'at is this or Jama'at is this and the Khutbah has to have this one of the main things you're not going to master all of the different in the future if some things come comes up to you in your MSA and they say oh we can't do that that's not valid don't think that it's absolute which men have says that can you look that up can you get a reference point for that so that's one of the things that you're going to do as you're working for the Khutbahs in your so the matakis school that's not going to work at a it's not going to work actually at most places it's not going to work at a hospital chapel it's not going to work at a Jama'at sorry at a MSA you're using a classroom it's not going to work at a college campus it's not going to work in a prison I do a lot of work in the prisons and they have Jama'at in the prisons it's not going to work in an open field who's ever prayed Jama'at in an open field yeah okay so if we and that's why I advise even people who follow the matakis school say look if you follow this what would happen think of what would happen to Jama'at in America if people were like it only has to be in a masjid all the MSAs are the question all of the companies who has fathers that go to Jama'at at Facebook, Google, Cisco Sun, you know, the Sun doesn't exist anymore Sun or microsystems, that would work with Google Oracle, thank you they have the Jama'at on the campus so we're looking really at the Hanafi school for your for your fit so one of the things is after this try your best to learn the Hanafi fit according to the Jama'at according and the Jama'at rules according to the Hanafi school and I'll share, we'll collect everybody's emails and I will share some more information about that but we're just going to do really quickly so there has to be thicker no long pause and there has to be three people so it's pretty simple so basically any type of thicker, stand up, any type of thicker, sit now, take a pause stand up, any type of thicker and then the prayer begins but you should maintain some of the formalities of the football that include the sunnahs and then some of what the others would consider sunnah like Salaat the shafa is considered out of obligation to offer the believer so we'll give you a format that has like some of these any questions on this, or is this confusing yes so the things that are mandatory for Hanafi is a good no long pause and Salaat and three people, it has to be in Arabic Arabic may be greater than English so now if you do but you have no long pause so what would be a way you could get around that what I've seen other who some people do and I actually do this myself as well is that if you start off with some Arabic and then go into English and it's a long pause, it's pretty long then before you sit down do some more components of the Arabic khutbah, some more dhikr mentioned a couple of ayahs and then sit down so technically what it would look like is something like so you stand up you have an Arabic intro then you have English then you have some more Arabic dhikr just to fulfill the bare minimums and then you sit down then you stand up and then you can do either this format again or just go through Arabic short English and then you pray so you go Arabic English then Arabic dhikr sit then you go into Arabic again you don't have to do short English this is the only thing that is the obligation and I'll share with you a bare minimum obligation because sometimes people are in a situation where they have to do like a 10 minute prayer or 15 minute prayer and his sumna is I mean when I was in Mauritania study and we would go to Juma'a you know how long the whole entire Juma'a process is about 10 minutes so this idea of Juma'a being like 45 minutes an hour that's really because the speeches have become longer but according to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam the way he conducted the Juma'as is that his sumna is he would read in the prayer the khubba which one would be longer the prayer or the khubba according to the sumna now which masjid have you ever been where the prayer of the Juma'a is longer than the khubba you've never seen that right and so that's at the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam but one of the reasons why that's changed is because a lot of scholars said look this might be the only time people are coming to the masjid listening to a talk this is also now going to be a reminder as well as a lesson as well so where do they change the sumna so now the khubba is longer than the prayer I mean wouldn't you say that the majority of khubbas that you've heard are longer than the actual prayer unless you go to some of the masjid where they knew the bayan in English and the khubba is Arabic and then they read a longer surah like if they read surah in Juma'a it might be longer than the khubba but don't say like okay we're going to do our NSA we're going to return to the sumna and we're going to do a short khubba and a long prayer like don't go against the tide of what the Muslim community at large has said look this is what we're going to do we're going to have longer lessons because of our times so any questions on the I'm curious does the validity of the Juma'a rest on the imam or the congregation so what I mean by that is if it's valid for the imam is it valid for the entire congregation for the khubba or the prayer because in prayer for example if the imam is praying according to his muqtab and it's valid for him then the congregation should be valid for them but I wonder if Juma'a operates inside so the question was if the Juma'a, if the khubba is valid for the imam is it valid for the congregation because if you, we know there's differences in the malahab of fit where say the wudu according to the Hanafi school it's not valid according to the Malikis for whatever reason like the Hanafis don't need an intention when you watch so if you jump into a shower, jump into a pool you come out and you have wudu but in the Malikis you actually have to have an intention but if a Malikis prays behind the Hanafi the prayer is valid because as long as that imam feels it to be valid that's sufficient and other people of other schools can follow that imam so it's a very good question which is if the imam, if the khubba is valid according to the imam does it go according to the imam as well the difference is is that one of the the conditions of or I should say the juma'a prayer because the jama'a and the khubba are inter-life they're dependent on each other so say for example an imam even if he gives a valid khubba but he doesn't have a jama'a to pray with him is his prayer valid? think about it, man stands up he has no jama'a to pray with him he gives a valid khubba it's valid in his medha but he has no jama'a no and if a jama'a prays on their own without a sati is it valid? so that's different than a regular jama'a if the imam prays and nobody's behind him, is his prayer still valid? so the validity of their prayer is that the imam and the normal prayer and the jama'a are independent whereas in juma'a they're interdependent that's why you have to be you have to catch the khubba to be able to pray two raghans it's a long discussion, we won't go into that today if somebody comes late and they miss the khubba do they pray four raghans to make up or do they pray two and so forth but we won't get into all of that hopefully everybody at the MSA they're coming on time so you know how you see it if they come for the khubba on time so what if you come if the khubba already started and it's midway it still counts for your baby honey the khubba starts midway and you come midway it's almost finished if you're coming and the jama'a is in the khubba or the prayer, you join in at whatever point it is the question is if you miss a couple raghans of the prayer if you miss if you catch the one raghana with the imam you got the whole jama'a including the khubba so any questions on this before we go now this is just kind of like a dinner overview so you see the different methods so let's focus on some of the elements of like how are we going to actually implement that if you got a phone, just go ahead and take a picture of that I will too and I'm going to probably put this into like a table and an email account to everybody as well okay so so now let's go into what that khubba will actually look like okay so since you've got a classroom that you're doing the khubba in or if it's a college and there's a chapel that you're using or a general room oh that's another thing that we started out, the time what is the time of jama'a when boho starts okay so now let's just go into time time is when boho begins so let's just say say this is the line of when boho actually begins um let's just say this is 1.38 okay so if you do when is the ending time of jama'a khubba time when's the latest you can do it asaf time okay so you got asaf time so you got between boho and asaf to do your jama'a khubba you'll find some masajid that do jama'a here have you ever seen that say they do it at like 12.30 has anybody ever seen that and this is important especially probably more more so when you get to a a college msa or even if you're dealing with like lunch like if your high school when's lunch start starting at 12.38 so okay so if you're high school it starts at 12.30 and then goes to what time 1.08 to 1.08 high school um okay wow you guys have short lunches half an hour yeah half an hour and this is exact right you're like 12.30 to 1.08 you have 38 minutes to ingest and digest your food oh when you were at the same thing 12.30 to 1.08 okay oh you're not in high school okay so anybody else same so right here you already got a problem it's like Buhur is not in if Buhur is coming in at 1.38 what do you do when we were having our Jumaas one of the reasons I remember I shared at the beginning we had a person who was coming in he would lead us in Jumaa then another person came in and he did not lead us well one of the reasons why our lunch was at 12.30 so it was before Jumaa so the only school that allows for Jumaa before Buhur time is the Hanbali school so this is a Hanbali opinion it's a Hanbali opinion and so you'll see big messages like MSMCA they have a Jumaa before the before Buhur comes in and then they have one or two after it some MSAs because they're like look this is our only chance especially in the winter time well the winter time maybe Buhur will come in but but the point is that you might be in a MSA where some members are like oh it's okay we can do Jumaa before Buhur and if you don't know there's this difference in the Madahat some are like no you can't do it because I asked the scholar and he said it's invalid no I asked the scholar and he said it is valid and that's what happened at Arjumma we had one person that was coming out he was actually leading Jumaa for us at 12.30 because he followed this opinion the person who came after him didn't follow this opinion so he just gave us a talk and then we did two of them as of now so that was just there I don't suggest that if people want to do just a talk and Buhur and Jumaa that's fine but don't like switch stuff around well that's a good question Buhur and what was your name bro? Yusuf Yusuf's question which is if the trope is valid according to the Imam and it be valid according to the Jumaa but because they're interdependent you have to make sure that whatever school you're following it's also valid with the other school unless you choose to follow that school for that for that portion of the Qutbah but as an example remember we were saying one of the what are one of the Shafi'i requirements of Jumaa there should be like the intention to Taqwa order to Taqwa right? the Hanbari's have the same thing as well but did the Hanafis have it? no so if you did the Hanafi Jumaa but you prayed it before and you forgot the order to Taqwa the Hanbari would say that's not valid and the Hanafi would say that's not valid right? so if somebody is going to follow the Hanbari school learn the Hanbari Shafi'i but where are the Hanbari teachers where are the Hanbari books who's going to be able to figure that out so if you're in this and then the other issue that this causes is if a lot of people are going to ask their teachers or their local Imams and they'll be like don't do it before Gohar so if you're in this constraint then just have get together and have a discussion and you don't really even have to do it on Jumaa that's a situation where you're not even able to pray Jumaa but if the MSA says we feel that it's really important for us to have a Jumaa then this opinion does exist and the reason why the Hanbari's considered it valid to have it before Jumaa is they said well Jumaa think of another prayer that resembles Jumaa prayer you've got a khutba instead of four rak'as you have two khutbas and two rak'as what's another prayer that we're familiar with that has something like that what's that Hajr it doesn't have a khutba though right Fajr doesn't have a khutba oh an Eid prayer so Ahmad Ibrahim said the sumna of two khutbas two rak'as is kind of in the same category when can you pray Eid prayer after Fajr anytime after Fajr so from Fajr all the way to actually to Wuhub so in that sense he said because you can have Eid before Wuhub Jumaa is like Eid and so you can do it before Wuhub so you hear a lot of people especially one of the things that happens with MSAs especially when you get to college is people are coming from a lot of different communities the majority of Muslims you see at your MSA are coming from your local masajid that you're familiar with so if you're at Doherty Valley you probably see people from what Walnut Creek Masjid well mostly San Ramon Valley maybe some MCC Doherts and generally service and MCC is like of the same understanding so you're not going to get this divergent view but if you went to UC Berkeley or UC Davis or some of the other UCs you're going to get people from all over the country all over the state and they're really going you might have a lot of people that say look our masjid in our hometown we do Jumaa before Wuhub and we don't know why but they do it Mikey Man does it let's do that here so that's something you're going to have to work out with the MSA and what I would say if an individual doesn't feel comfortable with this but the majority do don't make it an issue we're going to revive the sunnah the messenger of Allah and we're going to prevent this and we're going to follow the sunnah or manic or shafi just say okay brothers I'm going to voice my opinion I don't think we should do that the majority of the scholars say it shouldn't happen after Wuhub even the Humburis would say it's valid after Wuhub so let's go with the safer opinion but if they want to do that and you don't feel comfortable then just silently move out of that leaving that prayer if you don't feel comfortable with it so does this time issue make sense yeah my MSA group what we do is in winter when the times coincide that's the only time that we pray like Jumaa there are other times it's just like a congregation so you do just a congregate and just get together yeah okay yeah I mean one of the problems is usually the Jumaas at the masajid are early or after the one of the time or something so if you're communicating out of school you don't have exactly you can do it after school at the time right and that's one of the things like as your MSA if the masajid are not doing that you can request them to have a second Jumaa at the masjid which that also goes back to the fifth some schools don't allow for second Jumaa as the Hanafi do so that's why it's generally it's easier to just go with the Hanafi school for that the MCC I know they do a third Jumaa they do a third Jumaa for the youth to coincide with the high school and letting out but you're saying in the winter time it's an issue it's we only pray Jumaa when the times work out yeah because in the winter time it should be in by 1230 right so I think that's what MCC here they only do the third Jumaa for the high schoolers until the time changes to where you can actually do Jumaa on your campus so any questions on the time alright so we talked about the minimum of a congregation um the minimum of a chubba then there are any other fifth points in terms of how to those pretty simple in terms of once a person knows those elements that you have the two chubbas and then you have then you have the the two archives okay any questions before we move on to everybody's clear anybody want to yes I have some technical questions I'm curious I've thought of this idea before but there's no requirement to who can or cannot get the bayan so I was wondering if for MSAs maybe and I don't want to seem like progressive either the sister gets the bayan that's a question because the bayan there's no requirements for we talked about the bayan earlier there's no requirements for the bayan it's not like the chubba it can be given in any language it's not ed up to speak when the speaker is up there but since there are no requirements can a sister get the bayan that's a very good question because one of the things we didn't talk about is that when we say the imam and the congregation have to be males and especially now in this day and age where there's a lot of discussion about feminism and progressivism and modernism and all these isms and you know patriarchy and chauvinism and all these discussions and why can't women lead the so a couple of years ago the first woman led jomah was done in new york since then there has been a number of other masajids there's one in LA where they do women led jomah but it's a woman imam and a woman congregation now here in berkeley they have a new masjid where it's a woman imam and a mixed congregation and they're looking at this as like you know progressive and where we're throwing off the shackles of patriarchy whereas for us our dean is from a latinist messenger preserved by the scholars and interpreted by their understanding that's where we get our dean so the imam even in the arabic language the word imam can only be used for a male you don't have a female you also call a female an imam it doesn't work even linguistically in the arabic language now the shaft age school allows for a woman to lead a female congregation so if a group of women said we want to have our own congregation for other than jomah prayer but jomah is an obligation upon men to be established by men and that's clear in our sunnah before medhebs are in agreement in it that's what's been going on in the practice for 1400 years we don't need people now to come along and say oh we figured out a better way at the same time we want to make sure that we give some solutions so that we don't cause this extreme kind of like there's only two sides we either follow the way we've been doing it or we make a change so one change that we talked about earlier is the introduction of imam because did the prophet introduce imam no he didn't but the community saw there's a need for imam there's a need for a longer discussion about the language of the people so let's introduce the bayan so one of the things that I know some NSA's have done and I'm going to get directly into your question is that they have had cooperation between brothers and sisters to where the sisters write the hookah and the brothers deliver the hookah since the delivery has to happen with the men and the prayer leading with the men then have the sisters included in that sense if a sister now and this is the first time I'm thinking about it but it makes sense if a sister delivers a bayan and then the actual hookah and those technical components and the prayer is delivered by the the brothers there's nothing that would prevent that from happening I think that's something that the that congregation is going to have to have to discuss there's going to be people that will come up and say a woman shouldn't be speaking publicly that's probably one one argument against that and so that has to be dealt with separately like okay let's actually look into this is that something cultural is there a discussion amongst the scholars the answer is yes there is a discussion amongst the scholars is there a difference of opinion on whether or not a woman can speak in front of men and actually not only speak in front of men but when you speak you raise your voice so that's one discussion so a very powerful proof for the permissibility of a woman speaking in public in front of men is one time Omar Obrilaw was in the masjid giving a talk and he was actually going to he was as the Khalifa he was going to issue an executive order you're familiar with the story it was going to issue an executive order to put a cap on the dowries that the community grew like at the time of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam those early days were they poor or were they wealthy poor they were poor right they didn't have much wealth but as the empire grew and now more lands are coming in there was a lot of wealth and the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam actually foretold this he said you're going to see a time where you're going to get a lot of wealth by the time of Omar Abdulaziz who was Omar Obrilaw and his great grandson they got to a point where the wealth had been distributed and they got it out they couldn't find somebody to so you know what they started doing they started paying dowries of single men to get married they're like let's just find new categories of people so so at the time of Omar now the wealth is increasing the dowries are increasing as well so Omar says I'm going to put a cap on the dowries and so a woman outside of the masjid actually said Omar are you going to do that and Allah says even if you give them pinthah let's have the harfah to help us out you know the pinthah and minithahabi ayah are you a harfah as well using that you're not there's an ayah that mentions talking about the dowries that the dowry traditionally was given by the man by the husband to be in the groom to the wali the guardian of the woman to protect and to ensure that she gets it and that it's delivered to her so because it's given to it's given to the wali he has to make sure to turn it over to the woman that's her property and so the Quran is saying that if you even if you are given a pinthah a huge amount of gold a treasure room full of gold a treasure chest full of gold give everything to her so Allah is saying in the Quran even if you the wali are getting a pinthah give it to the girl give it to the woman the dowry and he stopped it so that's one of the proof that the sahabi were allowed to speak in the presence of women of men and there's others as well so I think that could be a possibility and I think those type of options should be explored because now what's happening even in some I know for a fact one local university where the women are actually saying we want to have a woman led juma on camera so what's happening like in fringe massage where they're trying to they're moving away from the sun now that type of thing is coming into the campus so as you go to the college campuses you will see that and you should be prepared so if you say okay sisters can you ride the hook bus and we'll deliver it that way we ensure your voice is being heard that's one way okay sisters you want to give a bayan beforehand now the argument they might say well you know because people think the hook bus is the only part that you have to be there I mean how many people have time themselves to be at the masjid just for the hook bus part and skip the bayan be honest I'm going to raise my hand as I've done that sometimes nobody's here oh man I just exposed myself most of the places I go don't do the bayan thing they don't do the bayan thing okay well but otherwise otherwise I would have this okay well thank you because if I appreciate now hi my name is Rami and sometimes I skip the bayan but we have a playing in our office we're like a couple blocks from the message so we listen to the bayan from the then we were joking we're like why don't we just pray jomah here at the office and we give him out but that's a you can't do that there's another fit discussion for that you know can you can we watch jomah and mecca and pray with them um so does that answer your question there's nothing that would preclude that there are some arguments against that they should just uh but I think that might be a good um a good solution because we can't say look this is what we're going to stick to recognizing that there's a tide rising over here that we're not getting a viable solution that is congruent at least with the understanding of some of our valid scholarship within andesuno jomah any other questions particular short break in about 10 minutes but we'll just wrap up the fifth portion um so that everybody has an idea so basically if if you want to have a um a good well-rounded khutba you have you should have I'll write this up on the board or actually I'll just basically it's like this you have a hamdulillah you put some hamd in there salat upon the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam an order to taqwa and an ayah or you can join those two with an ayah that orders to taqwa does that make sense and you got it because the whole point of the khutba and this is where the scholars differ you know the the various medah like I said it there okay jomah needs a jama'a what is it what it what does the prophet mean by saying a jama'a right he didn't he didn't explain to a jama'a so some said okay we're gonna look at linguistically what did the Arabic Arabs when they use the Arabic language what did they consider a jama'a 40 13 3 you know because according to the according to Arabic the when you can use the the plural like if I said entel if I say entumah what does that mean entem means what you want entumah means what you too at what point can I refer to you as entum which is the plural right at what point if I'm speaking to you how many people do I need along with you to say entum three it's actually two two people so that's the that's a strong proof from the the Hanafi school is that if you have two people on the amount that's the two people is according to the Arabs the Arabic who's the use of the language so but you can see how an imam attic has his proof he's having his proof so they have these different proofs in terms of how they're defining what a jama'a is all right we're going with the three because we're gonna we're gonna see that the Hanafi school it does not have to have be happened in a message but now that we get to what is a hope right the Sunnah is telling us about having a hope but what is defined as a hope but and the some of the explanation is that it's a according to the manatees it's a reminder according to the shafi'is it's an order to taqwa that's the bare minimum does that make sense so it's either a reminder or an order to taqwa let's put all three of those together by saying so we got the order to dig it I mean we got an order to taqwa we got a because it's from the Quran and there's a reminder to have so try your best to have some of those ayahs in there that have an order to taqwa in there and unfortunately many messengers especially the ones who where you go to the ones where they have like the bayan and the they'll have an Arabic taqwa but if you listen closely you will not hear an order to taqwa and so shafi'is who are there in fact there was an imam here in the bay area I was talking to him I said you know I encourage you there was Hanafi Shuyukh and Hanafi Imams please include in your taqwa an order to taqwa in the form of taqwa Allah because there might be shafi'is in the attendance he said actually you know what one time there was a brother attending from Singapore and if you know the majority of Muslims in Singapore followed the shafi'is school and he attended Juma at this imams at this mufti's masjid and afterwards he came up to the mufti he said mufti you know with all due respect I'm not going to taqwa because now I have to repeat my prayer so it's being conscious of other madad you know how like when so you guys have all worked with your school to facilitate an MSA you know that feeling that you get from your teachers or your administrations and they might be Christian or they might be Hindu but they're like oh yeah you know come on we're going to make you know that feeling we're going to have with each other as Muslims we're like oh you're shafi'is no brother this is what I said this is what I know you know what I'm saying in our masjid do we have the same way that they're treating us they don't so that's something we have to implement in our masjid oh brother okay sorry difference in dietary understanding differences in the Juma on khut but not say brother why are you causing division brother the dean is easy brother you know you're making it too complicated brother you know this is against common sense when I was in Mauritania we lived in a village and there's about 200 people in the village we never prayed Juma and this is like it's like a desert university that's hundreds of years old but the majority of they've been living in tents and huts and so forth but they've been there for hundreds of years never prayed Juma why? because according to the Madagascool they follow you actually have to have brick and mortar buildings and you have to have or I should say brick and mortar you have to have buildings that are established it could be made out of wood but you're 12 people they have to be residents of that village that are intending that like we're going to make this a city or a town but the majority of people in the Madagascool they're just like passing through I'm going to be here for 5 years to go ahead I'm going to be here for 10 years to do but like we don't follow according to the to our school so I remember mentioning that there was a person he said also how was Juma at the school? I said we never prayed Juma we just prayed Fogo he's like why not? I said well here's the Madagascool and he told me he said I remember him saying it he said so illogical and I talked to myself I said well you know you come from a country where there's shafi there has to be 40 people for a shafi in Juma there's stories in Palestine where the Imam would go out and he would count the people and if they didn't hit 40 they would pray Fogo that's about and if somebody wants to follow that you feel comfortable with 3 feel comfortable with 13 so you can't have this kind of food or what if the teacher your advisor if they're not Muslim they want to have food for you during the day in Ramadan or water can I provide water for you oh oh ok so having that type of attitude is really what we need you know instead of all of this you know so illogical brother so how did that get off on that topic now what were you talking about what's that yeah so the basics of oh so to be what is the word to be not conscious but to be sensitive to the differences of opinion that exist within our deen and the various understanding and to try to accommodate them so if a person says look we're following the majority of the Hanafi school but so we don't need to follow the Shafiq ones no include those in there so try to have it as an Arabic so Alhamdulillah Salawat and then dua for the believers and then if you want to have some you know some English put in there just do the dhikr right before you sit down and remember the Shafiqs don't need the pause does not affect it and then let me just drop right at the point we're going to say you're going to have Hamd some sort of Alhamdulillah Salawat some sort of form upon the Prophet and his companions and the believers the more people you include in that you can be as little as Allah Sayyidina Muhammad Salawat order to Tabwa an ayah which is actually a form of dhikr but you could also do a dhikr and then we said and then we said nice to be joined in that one you know if you get like an ayah about Tabwa right and then dua for the believers now as far as I know if anybody catches something that I'm missing this you've got your hookah right there so Hamd Salawat order to Tabwa an ayah and dhikr you can get this with so somebody says Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah Allahumma dhikr for the believers and the believers that's it pretty simple right Deen is simple we make it complicated and then now if somebody gives an English talk this is khutba one the first one if somebody gives an English talk we said now what has essentially happened here is it's like a pause because the khutba is in Arabic has to be delivered in Arabic and so English is considered when we look at it through the lens of the sharia it has to look like you were silent because it's not that English is not fulfilling you know we can't say like you know we're saying we praise Allah and we send peace and prayers upon them that's fine that's beautiful but the khutba is in Arabic just like when we pray when we pray like praise be to Allah the Lord of the worlds right I know people that have done that that have prayed for months like that this one where he actually became Muslim just by reading books and so he's like I can't remember these guys the path that you have distilled upon them and so forth so if you do the English talk and pause now and then you're going to do the city according to the sharia it's easier to find because you've got all their components and the pause is okay but what happened for the Hanafis you've got that pause so what are we going to do add in some vikr before you sit down do some sort of vikr like add something in there as I have begun by saying and I remind you nobody's going to be like why did you do that and then you sit down then when you stand up the second thing same thing like that and you're fine makes sense so the bare minimum you just like do the first khutba and you're done right no you have to sit and then do the second khutba and then the second khutba and then the second khutba is just like the first one is just like the first one you have all those components in there does that make sense you could actually you know as your MSA you could print that up on like a little index card and this actually really helps knowing the bare minimum really helps because one of the things that happens in MSA is like oh we can't find a speaker or the speaker can't be scheduled or cancelled or so forth well everybody or our MSA president who normally does the khutba he's not here today will have multiple people trained in how to do it and then for the sisters the reason why it's important for the sisters to know that is not just so that they can help in writing the English talk is that they should know the fit of this because for two reasons one if they're praying in that jama'a and the khutba is not correct is their prayer correct so let's go back to this first of all when we say jama'a khutba if we establish jama'a it's an obligation upon men is it an obligation upon women no but it's a sunnah for them to attend and if they attend does it fulfill their obligation to have to pray vuhur that day it does right they don't have to repeat so now if they're doing jama'a instead of vuhur should they make sure that this is a valid jama'a okay and so they should know these integral parts of the fit of the jama'a so if a brother comes up and he misses some of that he's like what if he just starts off with like some English praise of Allah doesn't do any Arabic dhikr that's what I should put here when we say dhikr it has to be in Arabic he doesn't do it and then he starts praying sisters should speak up and say brother you can miss some components integral components of the jama'a that needs to be repeated also she can help in checking and make sure if somebody is going to be trained in as a pinch hitter on the khutbah she can be there to make sure like do you know these components quiz him be part of the NSA so just have a couple of people who are trained in to know the basic integrals and if you know this like how long can you be how long can you get a khutbah and the prayer done ten minutes and that's what time and spare ten minutes will be the time and spare alright one quick question and then we'll just take like a ten minute break how many people felt that this really clarified to them like oh wow now it's clear you're comfortable with wudu nobody's coming there and saying you should be as comfortable but as you are with wudu I know the basics so how many of you would say like this has helped you get a good understanding of that did you already have this you did? alright how about you yeah I just it's good to know so I can tell others how to do it and cleared up a lot of questions for me as well is this right, does this person think something let me just follow him cause you've heard from multiple people that the attendees have actually studied the phil of khutbah either online through their own personal reading or attending a class where did you I studied at Z-Tuna and then I already looked some alright so you got some familiarity alright so then we'll take a two minute break I know some people came with already having breakfast there are some breakfast items out there so feel free to grab some breakfast items in our lunch it's 11.37 we'll come back at about 11.45 that way we can do we can go for another 45 minutes which now I'm going to talk about some of the integral or just advice that I have in terms of delivering a talk the dayan or the English talk and then we'll take a short break and then we'll go into topics that you should focus on in your khutbah so now we covered the integrals of the khutbah and what you should be recovering you'll notice that one of the if we said the integrals is just the victim if you focus on the bare minimums of the khutbah do you really have to give a quote unquote good speech you know so it's not about whether or not you're a good speaker it's just you fulfill the integrals of the prayer and this is really an important point to think about that khutbah is not about being a good speech so think about the prayer for example when you go to the masjid you mount praise you've all prayed behind people with a good voice, a medium voice and people who produce a little help right but at the end of the day all three of those categories if they fulfill the integrals of the prayer does your prayer sound? it sounds so same thing with adhan you've heard great adhan it'll make you cry who's ever cried when they heard adhan it'll make you cry but they fulfill the integrals so there's a difference between hitting the bare minimum and doing what's doing things with ihsan like perfecting them so this is important to know in the MSAs because you might have people that shy away from giving khutbahs because they might say I don't know how to give a good speech I'm not a good public speaker well you say as long as we've got somebody to hit the bear the integrals for us being a good public speaker is not one of those integrals but it's going to make it better now what's going to help you in terms of being a good public speaker some people just have a natural talent they have the ability they're good talkers and it might be a combination of nature and nurture the point is they don't need much train other people they may never develop that skill and some people could develop that skill with a little bit of help but there's a lot of things in your college and you might want to take some public speaking classes take some communication classes I think it's very important to be able to to live of this message to convey this message and to convey it in a good way I remember in my first year of college I took what was it it wasn't like a communications 101 public speaking 101 and I learned a lot that's actually one of the classes that I remember until this day some of the points that they talked about but a few things that I would say and this is just from my over the years just collecting in my own experience there's lessons online you can look at YouTube videos there's TED talks that talk about public speaking if you're going to be giving talks in public just learn about some of the art of communication and style but one of the main things that I would say is that when you get into this position of like being literally on the stage and having the microphone remember it's a very powerful thing that could affect your heart so the first thing is that you want to make sure that this position of delivering is not done out of kibir out of arrogance and it's not increasing any arrogance in a way that this could happen one way actually to remember or to think about is remember how in the first section we were talking about the Arabic, the hookah is in Arabic all of them in that have to say it's got to be in Arabic they just differ on what has to be said in Arabic and so a person might ask the question why does it have to be in Arabic even if they're not Arabic speakers why do we read the Qur'an in Arabic and not read it in the local language and I'm saying that the power of the Qur'an and the power of zikr even though it's in the medium of the Arabic language it penetrates the heart it goes across languages and will go into the hearts of people I'll give you an example of a good friend of mine Haroun Sellers you know Haroun from Zaytuna when he first became Muslim he didn't know Arabic and he had actually never heard the Qur'an in Arabic and one day he was in the masjid and he was selling cassette tapes of the Qur'an and this is back in the day when there was still a cassette tape who has not seen a cassette tape you guys have all seen a cassette tape? oh yeah okay so there's going to be a generation though it's going to be like that's the old music has anybody ever been to Niles and Fremont you know the antique places I saw toys that I used to play with in the antique shops I went to a museum in Detroit they had stuff that I used to play with in the 80s it's in a museum I'm like what is going on here anyway, cassette tapes so this was when the cassette tape the Qur'an was still on cassette tapes he heard the Qur'an in Arabic for the first time he said what is that? he was drawn to it the man said this is the Qur'an recitation in Arabic he bought the whole set he started listening to it in his car there was one cassette tape that stood out to him and he kept listening to it but he didn't know what it was even the name of the surah was written in Arabic so he went to his friend who was also a recent convert to Islam but had studied in Arabic and he said what is this surah that's being recited now to give you an idea of Haroon how would you describe Haroon what are some of the things he's passionate about? Star Wars videography videography he's very generous and hard generous in his heart poetry he's always thinking like a poet he's writing poetry before he became Muslim he actually wanted to go into the music industry he has a whole story about that he writes poetry all the time a very heartfelt poetry what do you think the surah was that he was attracted to? surah, come on surah to show ara the surah of the poets he did not know the name of the surah he did not know what it was talking about but he added that his heart is a poet he has lots of English poetry and that was the surah that struck a chord with him in his heart so what's going on there? that message is going into his heart even though he's not able to understand what's going on it's hitting his heart so this is really something to remember that when you're delivering the hope you're delivering a message and it has to travel from the heart to the heart so if a person has issues in their heart it might not penetrate the ears of the listeners and there's a saying in Arabic wisdom will enter the way it goes out and the way that I learned this lesson is that there were two students in the Mahbara where I was studying in Mauritania and one had studied Arabic with his Islamic studies teacher and another had studied Arabic with a professor but she really didn't have much care for Islam but she was teaching Arabic and so this student who had studied Arabic with practicing Muslim scholars as teachers his Arabic was better and so this other student asked our teacher why did that happen? I had college level courses and it was more advanced and we had more material he has less material, less structure no structure and so forth and he told him that wisdom will go into the heart the way it comes out so if the giver of the message is sincere it's going to go into the heart with sincerity, does that make sense? so when you're up there on the stage or up there in the the area giving the hookah you may not deal with this some people naturally don't deal with the arrogance that's associated with this stage but just be conscious that it is a very powerful thing and there's a term in English the bully pulpit so this is the pulpit you stand in the minba and you give them the talk and you have a captive audience especially because it's haram to speak during the hookah so if I'm up there giving a talk and criticizing people and I'm looking at the silence of the crowd and nobody is responding to me I'm like okay I'm going to roll it and go through all this criticism of other people and of whatever is going on that now this is just increasing in my arrogance so just start from a position of humility that you want to be in this position to give the hookah with sincerity and that's what you're going to try to give it out to give the message out one of the ways that you can that works very well is that when you're giving the hookah speak to yourself first remember that in fact I'll write it up on the board this will help you in two things it will help prevent arrogance from entering into your heart it'll also make your message that much more powerful so I'm going to say start with the heart and just check your heart just say make sure am I doing this because I want to criticize people attack people talk down to people the other thing is speak to yourself first so starting with the heart what's going to benefit is that if you speak to yourself first it's going to help you protect your heart so when you'll hear Arabic hookahs they'll say what? so even that is a I advise you and I advise myself to have tough wala wala so even in the light this is a lot traditionally it's because the bare minimum is actually an order to the jama'at so even if the person doesn't give an order to himself as the khatii the khutba is still valid but if you just stick to you guys have tough wala what about you? the speaker I need to have a reminder to tough wala so speak to yourself speak to yourself first so watch out for watch out for for saying you or especially you people you know don't ever say you people use we and also this is one of the most important things that I it's not an iPhone it's not an I kind it's the I message does anybody know the I message anybody know what the I message yeah what's the I message it's like saying starting your sentence with I I can do this I can do that is that what you mean or are you talking about that well it's usually this is usually using the context of when you're discussing with people usually about a confrontation because if say somebody insults you and you go to them what would be the first thing that you would want to say well why would you do that why did you insult me so that's watch out for you because what's now what's the natural response of the person you're going to say most of the time think of every time you've been insulted or heard or somebody annoyed you and you said you annoyed me you hurt my feelings you insulted me what's their first response could be anything what is that you did it first okay you did it first what else would they say I didn't do that I didn't do that and now the next thing I didn't do that what are they going to say you didn't do it okay now it's going to get you did it if they explain I didn't do that NASA I didn't insult you because what might they say because anybody else I'm not that type of person I'm not that type of person that's not what I meant you misunderstood me right so now it's really your word against them that's when you use the you message but if you say I feel you insulted me can they say can they say anything about your feelings so now we're not talking about what they did we're talking about what you felt so that's what in fact this is the person who taught me that I messaged was a former Crip from Los Angeles who spent 28 years in the California State prison for being in a car when somebody else murdered somebody else because in California if you're sent the same car when somebody else commits a crime everybody in that car gets the same sentence everybody so he had a life sentence he began to listen while in prison but I was talking to him about a conflict that I was having with the person he said Rami are using the I message so what's that so he explained this to me so thank you a lot if you ever watch this video thank you very much I'll send him to send it to him as well so use the I message how does that help me in delivering corpus or speeches it's helped me now that we're not this is not a conversation we're having with the you focus on yourself now you're not going to be talking about your feelings in the football but it also it'll help you just remember when you think about I use I and use we and I so I feel or you know I feel like if somebody says look at the difference between this this community needs to start practicing the Sunnah better right two problems there one it's you people need to start practicing the Sunnah so it's already already making this like I'm practicing the Sunnah you need to do it the other thing is like well they can say well I am practicing the Sunnah right so if a person says I feel that we need to be practicing the Sunnah better can anybody argue with that because couldn't we all use improvement on the Sunnah but as soon as we move it to a definite you the problem is it's coming it's very is very preachy you ever heard the word preachy right so people they human beings will shut down at preaching us will shut down so you gotta you know watch out for being preachy so I mean technically technically we are preaching from the pulpit preaching and so forth but it's like the way that it's used right now people don't like you know somebody preach and what they mean by this is a person that's like feels better than everybody else and is judgmental so you should the person should feel like when you step on the hookah is feel that you're lower than the people there was one of the famous scholars I believe at the end of this year and he said he used to give his lesson he said he didn't like even being on a stage like this and he said if I could I would rather dig a hole and sit in the hole and give my lessons because when the teacher sits on a pedestal it could be so that people in the back could see them but it also is very easy for the nefs to be like oh I'm better than you in fact it gets to the point that if we prayed say we prayed Jama'a in here and me the Imam and a few people we prayed up here and you guys prayed out here it could invalidate our prayer does that make sense we all have to be on the same level the sisters can be higher the rest of the Jama'a can be higher but as soon as the Imam and if he has a select group of people around him get higher it could invalidate the prayer because the Sharia has very very wants to set some limits to be very careful about arrogance creeping in so you feel make sure that when you're talking to people that you feel lower than they are and that's why when you say I enjoy myself and I enjoy you I remind myself and I enjoy you I remind myself first and then I would like use a lot of that language so that the congregation hears that you're being conscious of that and you're reminding your own nefs, your own self this is not about me I figured everything out right I could do everything you know right I got everything right and you're the people that need help one thing to remember about this is remember about let's see the hadith I'm just going to say the hadith ok the hadith running out of rooms I'm going to say the hadith of the the most top ok excuse my handwriting I'm going to type this up ok so when we pray in a congregation is the prayer is the prayer lifted to the heavens according to the top of the imam what's that I think it's a congregation who says the congregation anybody else have another view like when Allah counts this so the Prophet SAW encouraged us to go out and find the biggest Jama'at to pray with like on our daily prayers and why didn't he do that because the prayer will be assessed according to the person amongst that Jama'at who has the most top one right is it the imam no it could be anybody in the Jama'at so remember this hadith because as your if you're the imam of the prayer just because you're leading the prayer yes you have to know the rules of the imam and make sure your prayer is correct and all that stuff but this the reward spiritual state is not contingent on you and your fifth of the prayer does that make sense it's somebody out there in the Jama'at we don't know who it is so the same thing when you're speaking to the crowd remember you might be the person with the most top one it might be you it might be somebody in the congregation but we don't know can the person with the most top one stand up here please if the person who stands up it's not you so we don't know who that is so when you're speaking to that just remember you're speaking right now to somebody at this moment tomorrow it might be somebody different the whole shift but you're speaking to the people you say it might be somebody in the Jama'at and that will help you keep the humility of delivering the football so this is all about speaking to yourself oh another thing when you're speaking to yourself this is a funny funny story there's a comedian I listen to sometimes and I'll mention I'll give him free advertising on the MCC's platform his name is Brian Regan has anybody ever heard of him one reason I like him is because you know a lot of comedians they they use vulgarity and foul language and so forth and he's just like come on man can't you get to humor without using all of that stuff so he's one comedian who doesn't use any foul language doesn't focus on bathroom humor or sexual humor whatever it might be he's just a very clean comedian there's a number of Christian comedians who are very clean in their comedy so I enjoy listening to him and I find it very hilarious one time he had an interview where somebody was saying how do you train as a comedian and he said when I'm speaking to my audience I'm trying to make myself laugh and it's from him as a comedian that has been very effective in him like making thousands or millions of people laugh and he's actually a very famous comedian not as famous as some of the other big comedians but it made me think about this and I remember one time where actually it was a number of years into giving hookahs and speeches I made the conscious decision that when I give the hookah I'm speaking to myself and when I made that conscious decision I remember somebody came up to me afterwards he said wow this is the most powerful hookah I've ever heard but the whole hookah I was talking to myself like when I was saying but I was saying we but in my mind I'm attending like to myself for two reasons one when you're listening to the hookah you're getting one level of benefit but when you're speaking you're so focused on delivering the message you're not necessarily hearing it yourself so I was I made the conscious decision to say no I'm going to be speaking to the Jama'a but not only saying I remind you and I remind myself because I had been doing that but now I made the conscious effort to like during the whole hookah but to say I'm speaking to myself and then it made it in my leadership and it's a constant struggle because it can easily slip into that advice that I would say to help you in delivering your message and so that it is that it stays within the realm of being any bad that act of worship and it's not something that's going to increase arrogance anybody have a question so far let's see here alright so if you have a phone you can stack a shot out of this we're also going to collect emails and if you're taking notes if you're using the old fashion method go ahead and take your notes finish them up and clean the board using the so I'm going to leave just for myself alright now in terms of then in terms of preparation for the hookah again we're not talking about topics right now we're just talking about delivery so for some people they work really well off of of notes okay so some people some people work really well with having notes or a power point some people do well rehearsing and you can record yourself there's no one right way to public speaking again look online there's lots of resources about public speaking what you should find is what's most comfortable for you look I'd like to just have a general topic and when I get up there I just start talking and make it more conversational and that's more comfortable for you and that's what's resonating with the congregation then go with that if you find it more benefit in having notes or a power point that you're well I guess a power point well you could have it on your phone I do hookah notes on my phone and just scroll through them some messages now are getting fancy but have you seen they actually have the iPad stand like for the khabib so you can do that record yourself if you're driving in a car if you're at home you know just like talk to yourself out loud anybody talk to themselves out loud it's okay I agree with all the time I grew up hearing my grandfather he would always be talking sounded like he's actually having a conversation with somebody walk in he's talking with the tomatoes he's from Mississippi so he has like a southern accent you're not cutting that sharp what's wrong with you but talking out loud helps too because you get used to hearing your voice and being more comfortable the main thing that I would say is just focus on being comfortable and delivering the message as soon as you get nervous and tense up it's going to affect the way you talk it's going to affect people's ability let's just loosen up and think about it like having a conversation so that's one thing like use a conversational slang this will help in especially in MSAs and high schools maybe in a community you might want to keep it a little bit more official because you have people from all levels but if you're at a high school or a college MSA probably lean more towards conversational then you're not giving a speech to your history class you're not giving a speech in front of public speaking you're trying to deliver a message to the congregation so consider it like a conversational conversational style the only thing just watch out if you use this method watch out for getting too for getting too what's the word too late back because it's not a conversation you are trying to deliver a message in a religious like platform and so you have to respect the stage so you might be at the same level but you have to respect the minimum you have the audience is captive they're not talking especially if you're in the actual but it's hard for them to talk even if they want to voice hey I don't agree with that they're not able to so don't make it to where it's too conversational and you might slip into being a little bit too unofficial and now you're throwing in jokes don't use jokes in a don't use sometimes people might say things like humorous but don't try to make the congregation laugh remember this is a a moa ila okay this is the point of the hook now if you're using a bayan style or the english talk but the moa ila what's a good translation for a moa ila reminder or it's more than a reminder I think it is a reminder a moa ila is like it's not a stern talk moa ila is like it's a speech it's a speech but it's a speech that think of like okay in the hookah we're not having a it's not a feel good talk right you go to a fundraising dinner you go to some activity it's not a feel good talk it's a talk that will like it's reminding people and it's like a deep reminder what's that because informative would be more like a lesson like what I'm doing here we're going through the nuts and bolts of the of the hookah so you got informative and then over here you got a feel good talk this is more of like a deep reminder okay a deep let's call it a deep somber reminder the moa ila is an Arabic right moa ila is moa ila is just that's the purpose of the hookah so if you're going to the whole purpose of the hookah it's not a rally like we all need to give sadaqa to this place over here like I'll give you an example when people tell me deep somber reminder when they come up and I'll write these down when they come up and they this leads into our next section which is talking about what subject should we talk about in the hookah is that I'll give you an example when I was in Canada and the message said it was a huge congregation they say they just messaged it based on the Friday donations and we asked the hookah to tell people please donate to the sadaqa boxes well that's a call for sadaqa that's not what the jumaa hookah is about and I have a strict policy even if it's my own fundraiser for my own organization I will not use the hookah to tell people and there's a fundraiser this Saturday night that's not what the hookah is about you want to make that announcement after the hookah before the hookah that's fine it's like prayer four rak'a's of hookah become two rak'a's plus two rak'a's of hookah so it's like the prayer so that's why there's integral parts that we have to hit but if we're going to extend the speech part of the hookah we have to keep it within the realm of a mobiyah if it goes into a political discussion if people start talking about politics you can actually start talking with your neighbor so what are you going to do today after jumaa because he's left the subject of the hookah it has to be a mobiyah which is a deep sovereign reminder a person may mention stories that make a person feel good but it's not to be too conversational to where it's like just chatting it's to make people think you go through the hookah you hear something and you're like how can I apply this to my life so don't talk about getting into the next one so this is just some advice that I have the previous ones it's more technical stuff but the main thing is remember that this is a deep sovereign reminder so now we can go into the section of topics what to choose to talk about and what not to choose to talk about but before I go into that section does anybody have any questions I've heard some scholars they're trying to push for budgets in the hookah is that problematic or pushing for power points to use in the hookah I think it would be problematic because it goes more towards like a ta'aleen like an informational the hookah is not people are going to learn in the hookah there's no doubt you learn to pick up more points but that's not the point of the hookah the point of the hookah is a mobiyah it's a reminder if we go to the power point section now it's like if you turn your attention to slide number two it's like think of the difference between actually even think of the difference you're feeling right now because this is a power point think of your feeling right now as opposed to when you're out there does it feel different it does even the way you're sitting, your attention it's different when the comrades are coming into that mode you really have to respect that so that's why when I start hearing people talk about politics I'm like that's not what I came here for if I want to hear political commentary I'll go online that's not what I came so this is another thing up so it's not a ta'aleen session one thing that I also learned myself over the years is when I first came back from studies overseas you know what I used to make my must fit lessons and you'll notice that when people first come back from their studies they'll like remember they actually complained to me and said he went to a masjid and the whole khutba was a lesson on istinja which are there people that don't know the rules you can go right to this bathroom and see that there are foul and nasty people that just or I should say foul and nasty people so there are people who come to the masjid and they go to the restaurants and it's just foul and nasty sometimes especially after jama'a it looks like a truck stop interstate 5 on the way to LA it's like are you guys Muslim purity is half a faith what happened to that one of the first revelations to the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam yeah you had him with death what stand and remind the people what it was because the Arabs used to drag their clothes I imagine if I go into the restroom and my pants are all the way down like this what's going to happen to my pants so it actually means raise your pants up so that you don't get them get them dirty because when you're walking in the pathways there's filth when you go to the restroom there's filth so keep your clothes clean well you know you can see it in our restrooms it's right brother it's like people really need to like learn cleanliness it's half a faith it's one of the first lessons anyway I don't want to get into a rent but the khubba shouldn't be a technical discussion on the rules of istinja do Muslims need to learn that? yes but the khubba is a maula now some people could say it falls into the category of a maula maula because of what the Arabic let me just take it quick and you can disagree with me if you want to but do you think a khubba is a place to discuss the filth of istinja and please anybody who disagree I just want to make sure I'm checking mine anybody disagree with me because I would love to hear disagree I think it can be a reminder to to learn that but to not use that so and definitely not politics it's not a political stage for political commentary and so forth I actually wanted to ask about that as well because there's a big push like khubba should be relevant and should connect with their audiences so I was wondering to what extent can you use what's going on in the world or a political and draw a lesson from it and I'm actually pulling up some advice shift I heard that I was doing this and he sent me some advice specifically on this and I really liked it I'm just going to try to pull it up and we can go into into that because I think even content is more important than delivery so this is all about delivery you'll be fine if you have a good more but you have a poor delivery it'll be more important to people that have a great delivery and a poor more does that make sense sometimes who's ever been in a situation where you go into a butcher shop or an auntie catches you in the hallway and just tells you some advice a person passing in the street or you get into the taxi cab in most of the time this is in Muslim countries where people are having discussions about the need and that taxi cab driver or that butcher or that person in passing gives you a reminder that you remember till this day everybody had that experience or similar experience so the moment you love it doesn't have to be all fancy and nice delivery which I think the whole PowerPoint thing takes it away it's like if we're going back to the idea it's heart to heart my heart to your heart well this is kind of like it's a little bit shifting away yeah I think that I wouldn't agree with that but now we can go is there any questions about the delivery which this is the other thing to remember about this about delivery this brings up a really good point if you study the dean and you deliver hope bus does that make you a great public speaker no so you can learn delivery style from like TED Talk from your teacher at a public speaking class on campus like this is more strategy of how we implement the actual delivery can they come to us and tell maybe they can give us a little insight on how you reach people and have a reminder but can they teach us the tip of football no we got our structure but some of these other things how to speak you can learn from other people you might have at your MSA who's had non-muslim students come to the MSA you have right most of the time and sometimes your advisor who has an advisor they have to say it's not muslim does your advisor come to listen to talks she's in the room so a couple of things which also brings in the topic of the reminder two things that you can get feedback from them like how is this message being received and they might be able to give you some delivery pointers or so forth the other thing is now that we talk now we're going to move into subject remember you're not talking to people who agree with every single thing that you say they may not even be muslim there's people there's one brother that comes to the khukba here regularly at MCC he's not muslim you guys know that brother he's a catholic denis yeah he comes every time like the first or second bro almost every single week every Friday so you have to make the assumption that there are people who are not muslim in the crowd maybe they just want to learn about muslims or just want to learn a little bit about your faith you also don't want they may or may not even be interested in Islam but you have to be very careful that whatever you say might offend somebody so what are some ways to not offend somebody so we're going to say how do we keep it as a deep reminder to everybody that can benefit everybody in the crowd and not offend people you're always going to offend somebody and I have a joke I say I have people come up to me after khukba and if they say oh great khukba they start off with that you know what the next thing is but and my father I was raised part of my life in Jordan so I have an understanding of Arabs to a certain extent 90% of the people who do that are Arabs and the other 10% this is not research basically it's just anecdote the other 10% they might be not Arabs but they live in an Arab country at some point in their life and so there are the people who will be like bold enough to say I have some criticism of your khukba one brother actually he asked me he came up and he said you know he mentioned the hadith and I looked it up and I said were you doing that during the khukba were you doing your hadith research during the khukba so we can have another lesson on that unlike masjid politics but it's your MSA you're not going to have as much politics as in the masjid so now let's go into politics the first thing stay away from politics and this is actually mentioned even in the old books of khukba they say don't get into politics that's not the place of the khukba let's take for example the whole Kavanaugh scandal recently is it a matter that's debatable are people going to debate both sides right would Muslims debate both sides or maybe say look I can see this side I can see that side is it a clear cut like if I gave a khukba on khama being haram and we shouldn't drink khama is there any debate about that do we have Muslims who have addiction issues in our community yes that's a clear cut issue that's a good somber reminder look we need to deal with addiction in our community if I start talking about Brett Kavanaugh and whether or not he should be appointed to the supreme court is that a clear cut issue it's not that's not the place of the khukba I remember it's a Mohoran your question earlier was about making it relevant and this is what chef Kamin he mentioned to me to give advice he said if a person wants to talk about a political situation that is very relevant it should be like a senior scholar who has experience in being able to analyze it and get to the core of the issue I'll give you an example when the supreme court made the decision of same sex marriages now for us as Muslims we don't have a clear cut matter we don't have that in our religion and we're not afraid to say it and if people want to say that's homophobic I mean that's now you're being xenophobic by not allowing me my fundamental rights as an American to have freedom of religion but I'm not going to hurt anybody and I can deal with a person on a business level I can have a personal relationship that has that life still but if you ask me to morally accept that so part of our religion we don't accept that when the supreme court decision came down one church that the Mormon church that is very very they have a very structured system they sent out to all of their churches what the Sunday was gonna be about and it was the church's response to how we view that well I took that as a position just to remind look as Muslims even though the law of the land is this and that's what that came down as Muslims our moral position is this it's a clear cut issue but I'm not going to get into all of the details of like should we show up at a rally should we be on a petition should we all of some of those like strategy type issues but the moral issue and if you're able to like separate between the two we can talk about that so if somebody wanted to talk about the red cavernot issue well let's talk about sexual abuse in our communities let's talk about people abusing positions of powers like get to figure out what's that core issue separated from the national political schedule and just discuss that somebody might come up after the book and say oh you were talking about the cavernot schedule right so they know I was talking about core universal issues because everybody agrees women should not be assaulted right there's nothing a woman can do that would justify and assault oh she was using drugs oh she was using alcohol all the way she was dressed we can address those issues but we shouldn't go into the political scandal so I think if a person is able to do that but that actually and that's why I appreciate the advice from Shep to me is that it takes a senior level or even if somebody maybe intro or junior to deliver and help us seek advice from a senior level scholar how can I break this topic up especially at a college in SA people want to discuss those things is that if you stick with just stick with stick with the basics stick with the basics you go to you know basics of like what I mean by basics is actually let me just ask you what are some basics that we can all agree on all Muslims regardless of our understanding of you know meth have no meth have she has so many differences you know what are some basics that we can all agree on and then even people outside of Islam can agree with us what's that 5 pillars right like we're going to talk about the importance of the 5 pillars in our life what's another example what's that turning back to Allah turning back to Allah right that's a turning back to your creator even in Islam if they listen to that like yeah I need to turn back to God what's it something else turning back to Allah taqwa right having taqwa we're not going to get into the details of like oh you should avoid this because it's haram according to this scholar and that's a form of taqwa but in terms of taqwa as a general principle hey that's a great topic topic what is taqwa you know what are the hadith about taqwa and since the main Mauliva at least according we discussed that earlier according to the shafi'ah what did the shafi'ah say is the integral part of the khubba get taqwa Allah an order for taqwa so that's like for them that was the core of the Mauliva what's another topic the life of the prophet so the life of the prophet, Sida talking about how he dealt with difficulties or hardship and the Sida is actually a great one so we said 5 pillars and that right there you can deal with so many things you can talk about you can have a whole series of football in shahada what do we mean why do we say shahada and I don't say we become Muslim by saying their witness there is no God by Allah I don't say I believe even though we believe in Allah talking about the shahada talking about how the shahada can help our lives 5 pillars that can be a whole year's worth of what's another somebody said taqwa what are you saying turning to Allah the youth what about the youth that's a good one for youth but what exactly about the youth they're turning into religion so turn back to Allah but another one youth you can talk about identity not being afraid of their religion which goes into identity which goes back to the 5 pillars which goes back to shahada like you can say identity tohi which comes under the 5 pillars the tohi which also ties into our identity what makes us Muslim or the 5 pillars are you afraid to pray in public let me ask you guys this that are in high school and colleges do you know people that will only pray like at home or in the masjid or maybe in the fitting room of masjid nobody can see them do you know people like that they're like hey brothers and sisters let's pray in public why are we afraid to pray in public if other people are not afraid if they're not ashamed of showing their lifestyle in public why should we be ashamed of praying in public now if you say if you give a taqwa on the importance of praying in public and some of the difficulties that a person might deal with in praying in public is on how to pray in public if a non-Muslim was there or somebody newly practicing their religion they're going to benefit so keep those two like somebody that's far from Islam you don't want to turn somebody away but there's some what are some other just general topics Rahma having mercy the only thing that I would say is when we talk about rahma keep it as general as possible when you keep it as general as possible you allow the message to get to everybody and then they can interpret it on how that they need to do it in their life that's the Maulana but if you if you tell people we should have rahma and this is how you need to do it what's happening there right if you look at one of the speaking styles and this is also as part of your khutba training read the khutbas of the Prophet s.a.w see how he spoke to the people and one of the main ways that he spoke to people is he would say who's heard of some of these hadith when he's giving a public he would hear about a problem in society because that's what we're like problem in society people are not feeling strong enough to show their Muslim and public we need a khutba in identity the Prophet would hear about issues in society so we do keep it basic but we need to keep it relevant basic but make sure that it's relevant I always have problems no spell checker on this board is that right alright there's a couple of words that I always struggle with scissors conscientious I'm not opening up a little bit too much okay so keep it to the basics and keep it relevant the Prophet s.a.w if he heard about a problem what do people consider I'll give you an example there was a group of people they're the ash'areem there was a sub tribe of the Arabs they were called the ash'areem there's a famous sahaba Abu Musa al ash'areem he came from this group the ash'areem well they were known to be a very scholarly tribe when they became Muslims they clung to the Prophet and they learned this deem really well they were on the outskirts of Medina and next to them in another encampment or part of the village was a group of people who didn't know much about the deem so imagine you have a scholarly tribe and a person who's new to Islam but they don't have much they came to scholar the people who needed more knowledge they came to complain to the Prophet they said our neighbors the ash'areem are not teaching us if you imagine a person who's ever had an experience the teachers say hey I'd like to study with you sorry I don't have time I'd be a college professor I don't have time to take on another mentee might be a sheikh, might be a sada whoever might be sheikh, sheikh don't have time so they complained that the ash'areem were not giving them enough time the people who wanted to study complained to the Prophet well he now gives a public address he said what do you say about people who have knowledge and do not teach their neighbors now one of the things that it did is it can see everybody else is like yeah that's not a good thing let's go on with our day the ash'areem were like he's talking about us we need to make a change so he did something and they mentioned this they said the part of the the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he would encourage people in a way that they make the decision to make the change themselves and it's more powerful than he says hey you guys the ash'areem teach your neighbors which is an order as opposed to posing a question what would you say about people who have knowledge and don't teach their neighbors it also allows the person to analyze it without it being directed at them so the ash'areem are sitting there they're like yeah that's not a good situation wait I do that okay I need to change that so they went and they started teaching their neighbors and then they came to the Prophet they said well actually before that I believe we have that issue we're going to change it and they made a change so think about that story when you're when you're discussing okay the reason I kind of sidetracked but about rahmah so if we're talking about rahmah we're going to talk about it in a general sense we need to have rahmah we should have rahmah it's a part of our deen Allah is one of his name is the rahman the rahim the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that's a general message that everybody can understand but now if we change it to a very specific go from the general to a specific and say we should all have rahmah and so for that reason you shouldn't do this this and this don't do that in the football I'll give you an example one time there was a person who she was not I did not feel that she was fit to have the care of younger children I felt she had some and she had a lot of issues that she was dealing with so what happened was she actually had the care of some children, long story short she put the bottle, she wanted to heat up the bottle for the child and she put it in the microwave anybody with children knows never put a bottle in the microwave you guys probably don't like what's the big deal right because what's going to happen you know when you put stuff in the microwave you know how it gets unevenly heated it'll be like cold at the top and you're like oh right and it burns on the bottom so there's an uneven heat she had heated up the milk until the bottle melted and she was about to give it to the child luckily the father just happened to walk back in and stop that from happening so my question when I heard about that I said who referred her to that position they said so so I said you know the person who referred knows about that sister struggle and that she shouldn't be in that position she could do other things in this society but not that and so one of the responses was well we have to have rahmah with people and give people a chance now do we have have rahmah yes do we have to have rahmah with people yes do we have to put a person in a position that doesn't require that because of rahmah no so keep it general and don't go into the specifics or another example again another person struggling with a serious issue and I I spoke to the person's family and I said you know what your family member needs a lot of needs a lot of help they were actually going to put themselves in a dangerous position well a friend of that person was furious that I had spoken to the family and I said well why this person needs that help and support of their family they should know they're struggling with this situation you need to have rahmah so it's like going from the general do we need to have rahmah to the very specifics of in this situation of A, B and C you need to do this because of the principle of rahmah you see what's happening there so try to stay away from remember when I said when I first came back I did a lot of fit-ruling and I learned the hard way stay away from fit-ruling if you try to take a general principle and apply it to a specific situation are you doing a fit-ruling that's essentially a fit-ruling because you're saying you should say this because of rahmah so stay away from that and stick to the general principle that bit of general principles any questions so far some other basics what will we say you know had ever seen the hadith collections that like the prophet might say these are the rights of a muslim over the brother and there's like six right or these are the seven people that will be on the day of judgment shaded on the day of judgment or these are the rights of these are the rights of the neighbors or these are the rights of the streets the rights of the pathway and there's like a listed out one of the things that and I learned this in public speaking early on they said one of the most powerful things is to give people numbers today I'm going to talk about about three points today I'm going to talk about four points and if you look at a lot of hadith the prophet said when he mentioned things he's listing them out and you can easily that isn't like a powerful presentation rights of the brother rights of the street here's the points and so if you use those of the hookah it's pretty general here's the rights of the streets this is what the prophet said maybe give a little commentary in terms of how to apply that in our situation in our modern projects but just stick with the basics but that's the hadith literature has a lot of material you would probably like I mean for example there's I would say also akhla which is very general and there's websites that will list out hadith there's one website I can share this it's like a hundred character traits fifty good fifty bad I mean that's right there's a couple years of hookah right just each week we're going to talk about one good trait the next week one bad trait you know and there's an ayah that talks about it maybe just keep it general another one diseases of the heart they are mentioned in the Quran kibir, ujjub, they are all mentioned in the Quran somebody said earlier sida I think this one is really really really good because when you talk about sida another point is the numbers is a powerful point in terms of making it making people remember the topic because how many times have you come out of hookah jake hook oh man you should have listened to it what he's talking about come on who's he talking about that's happening to me right so you want like some memory pegs to like remember if two powerful things are the numbers and one that's even more powerful stories how many times have you been talking about let me tell you a story and all of a sudden you're like you know human beings by our nature in love with a lot of programmed us to love stories and what is the best stories they're in the Quran the best of stories for those of you who speak or understand Arabic you know when you're reading Quran you get to sort of use it doesn't it change a little bit right and especially because the story is like it's not like the story of musa that's in different places it's like the whole story is right there don't you agree like when you get there and you're like that's my story the stories are very powerful the story of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam that's plenty of quote commentary another thing that the stories do is that they work they help in people remembering it but it really focuses on love of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam love of the prophet or the prophets because how can you love a person that you don't know talk about it you know the reason why people fall in love with celebrities and musicians and idols and so forth what do they do in all of their magazines and their instagram did you know that so and so likes to eat skittles that have been put in an ice cream right they like to know all those details and knowing all of those details about the person you love increases your love for them so this the nice thing about keeping it basic is who can argue with love of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam right and that love of the prophets and the prophet at the head is such a powerful thing that everybody needs and you can everybody can relate to that because to love the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam do you need to pray five times a day could you drink alcohol and love the prophet being honest you could and there was a sahaba who used to drink alcohol and after he was born multiple times and then even punished by the prophet you know what did the prophet say about him he loves Allah and his messengers stopped talking about him so now it's not complete love until you love the prophet and you follow everything that he says like abu-l-baq, like abu-l-baq that's like the highest of love but that sahabi who was still a grand human being a grand sahabi he had love of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam in his heart how many of you have met somebody who didn't hear Muslims, somebody he may not pray he's bad in his interactions with other people but when you talk about the prophet he just changes that happens you can find people that this is a powerful thing love of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam but keep it general and don't go too specific if you love the prophet then you need to be praying five times a day don't make it to where it's conditional that it's presented in a way that the person comes out and says oh I don't pray so therefore I don't love the prophet be sensitive to allow everybody there to have some connection to that message you want everybody in the group to say you know what I see where I have rahmah and I see where I need to increase I see where I have love of the prophet and I see where I need to increase everybody feels like oh I don't have any love or any rahmah so that right there is like years of of khulq al material in general, I'm going to go to some of the specific context though what is that website that you are talking about it's in Arabic it's called I'll have to find it it's all in Arabic I was actually saying a good translation of it would be very good I have to find it we'll pass a sheet around here at the end everybody wants to put their email address we can email the link to this video of the entire training and then whatever resources that I talked about some of these notes that I'm going to also picture but any questions of this so far and then we'll end on just some like current events, relevant topics so something that I think about sometimes is if you're telling a story or relating a hadith that everyone has heard before people might not be too happy about that they might prefer other things so is there a way or any strategy that you recommend of how to go about telling a story that maybe everyone's heard before but doing it in a way that everyone can appreciate that's a good question so the question is what if you were to present a hadith that you that everybody's familiar with but to keep their to keep them engaged that's a really good question I would say that the a couple of things the first thing is don't make the assumption that everybody has heard that so go ahead and mention it because more often than not we're going to have somebody who has not heard that it's just like there's a saying somebody told me in marketing people were saying if everybody has a phone why are you doing so much marketing to buy a phone, buy a phone, buy a phone so the person responding by saying every single day somebody turns 18 so maybe yesterday this marketing wasn't relevant to him or her because he couldn't buy his own phone today there's a whole new group of people who are turning 18 they need to hear this message and they're giving the same message over and over so when we come to the Mauryla the reminders and the lessons you're going to have somebody who their development is not at the same level as everybody else so you're most probably going to have somebody who hasn't heard that but if you have a hadith that's really well known that's a good question how do you make it engaging and relevant to the people and that's really more of a strategy issue and a storytelling issue and this is something you can there's lots of online resources of how to tell a story and how to really make it engaging to people with also making sure so one thing I don't have to write this right now but when you're telling stories just be careful of the problem of adding in assumptions and this was early on when the whole field of Mauryla was being developed in the Muslim world and people were becoming famous for giving these very powerful reminders sometimes it would be what they said is a qasas a storyteller and one of the things that the qasas would do is they might tell a hadith but there's gaps in it you read a story of the sida of the prophets or the sida of the prophet or you tell a story especially if you tell children these stories for any of the parents here when you've told your child a sida story have they asked you questions that's not in the sida but what was that person's name where did they live who's had that experience where the kid asks a bunch of questions so there are poking holes and so what the qasas would do is they would fill in those gaps with light well most probably it would be like this or most probably it would be like that I recently heard there was a speaker he was talking about how modern day eras conceptual lines what eras looked like and how they spoke if you speak to most eras today the way they imagined the way eras dressed and the way they spoke where does it come from Egyptian movies or the Moroccan movies now and so they have this assumption that in Arab like they wear like a specific robe all the way to their feet which the Arabs did not wear like if you look at the literature they wore like the lungis the izahs and they wore shirts and they wore kills like the scottish and you know how the scots also have the thing to wrap around their shoulders that's what the Arabs wore they wore that and kills but they didn't wear those and you would think that so there's all of these different concepts that a person has in fact one time this one person was saying he was talking and he said you know what you shouldn't hear he said why he said because that's what the Muna Fahdina and the Jews used to have he said how did you know that he said look at the movies and if you look at the movies they always portray the Jews of Medina the Muna Fahdina of Medina as people with very long beard and so he's like that's how he was like so they're not going back to the original source so the reason I'm mentioning that is that sometimes a person may want to embellish the stories because when you tell a story from the Seerah or the Hadid you're narrating it's the Iwaila and you have to narrate it as it is now you might say well it could have been this but just trying to stick to as best as possible but one of the ways that you can do is related to a modern day story or if you sometimes a story embedded within a story helps out so if you like I'll give you an example um we've heard the Prophet Sallallahu Alaa what are some of the foods the Prophet Sallallahu Alaa from amongst the vegetables on there what's one food that he likes I don't know dates, milk dates but it's a fruit from the vegetables vegetables that is okay well there's your hopa topics shamanic, get the shamanic activity and there you got a couple years worth okay so shamanic, yes yeah you like cucumbers which I recently learned is actually a fruit I didn't know that I also recently learned that peanuts are not nuts anybody know that or is it just me do you think like cashews, almonds peanuts, it's not a nut it's from the same family of Radhes it's a legume did anybody know that or is it just me in the dark you know that? it's because people have mental allergies do people have mental allergies? really? okay anybody else know that? alright I feel better now alright so but Qiyana just recently found out it's a fruit because of the way it grows and so forth what else, what are some vegetables that you like pumpkin, okay so pumpkin squash, he likes squash dubah and Arabic there's a number of names I remember going to an ikna west sea they don't have them anymore at mca and it was a speaker named Abdulet so I can tell you exactly where he was standing everything like it's very clear as day but he was talking about this but he didn't just say the prophet likes squash I probably wouldn't have remembered that he told us a story that in Sudan they have this tradition that every week they have a potluck and everybody comes in and brings the food and he said there was one person who hated squash and whenever the plate was put on the the tablecloth that they would put on the ground he would get up and make a scene of getting away from that squash and so he would, if it was placed here he would get up and go to the other side and say I can't stand squash enough one day they come to the to the weekly potluck and this man has gathered all of the dishes that have squash put them in front of him and is eating them and weeping and they said what happened? you were the person that was like anti-squash man 100% he said I found out the prophet told us I used the love squash now that makes it different than just saying the prophet loves squash so you can take an aspect of the seed I don't have to indulge him oh yeah maybe he cooked it in a clay pot maybe he ate it with wheat I don't have to indulge that but just take a modern story for example and embed that seed of story within it or the way a person might have applied the sunnah of a story so I'm just trying to think off the top of my head okay so if I told you I mean this is more a fifth discussion but the sunnah is normally in any masjid you go to a masjid and you pray two rakahs of tahiya right to greet the masjid which you're really greeting the owner of the house which is Allah when you go to Mecca the tahiya is a tawaf is going around the campus seven times you don't do two rakahs so now I could just say that right tahiya of Mecca is tawaf but I have a story that I would like to embed it so there was a scholar from Mauritania who traveled across the desert went to Mecca he studied that he knows the sunnah but when he got to Mecca one of the locals of Mecca who was not a scholar said don't you remember that the tahiya of masjid Mecca is the tawaf and that's because he's a local and he's actually practicing it all the time and the shah said oh yeah that's true you're right so that's a story where you can take one thing and embed it within another story no it wasn't okay we only have like okay so let's end with modern context we're gonna stay away from political context unless you can boil it down to the core of that issue which that takes a little bit of experience so try to avoid it but some modern context like what are some issues that we're dealing with in society, modern society that we should be discussing in our focus that you should hear so we have the general topics of like from the scene down in the story but what are some current events that we really need to talk about in our society that are not being spoken about in our and we're speaking specifically like high school, college what's that oppression and muslims oppression and maybe of muslims but also general people oppression you might go to a hukla and somebody's like oh I want to give a hukla about black lives matter what's one of the problems with that no what's one of the problems with giving a black lives matter hukla it's too specific can you address the exact same issues and topics that the black lives matter is trying to address yes by all means and should we address it yes but try to get to the core issue and make it relevant to to the community maybe xenophobia is after all of that or is that separate yeah like when you're talking about xenophobia so because this also ties into the identity things like are you as a muslim in here are you hiding you're Islam are you afraid to show you're Islam because of xenophobia just last week somebody in this was in Fremont I was in my car in the turning lane there's two other people two other lanes and a few cars back and I heard the person yell out at me you beeping rabbi so is there an anti-Semitism yeah just because a person with white skin has a beard and a kufi on he's automatically Jewish I've gotten that before one time I was checking ingredients at Whole Foods and I was lifting it up and I was looking at the because you know how they put the ingredients on the bottom of the cake somebody came up oh shalom it's not just Egyptian movies then I mean which one yeah okay so okay what are some other ones like specific to the youth yeah racism yeah so we can put that under like racism does anybody know what you look like yeah Zeoma fear of others it's basically flipping through the entire developer like Trump and in Europe every place is getting more and more right so yeah so we can talk about that like you can relate it to stories of the sea a lot the the embargo of any Hashim and how do the Muslims deal with that and so forth what are some other topics identity so you can maybe like talk about that but let's just put that identity probably wasting a lot of time over social media ah that's a good one yeah wasting time that's a really good one especially social media and especially in this age where you guys like now the people going to high school and college they like they were on social media before they finished drinking milk from bottles and stuff right like they're grown up in this thing but on Instagram all the time and yeah that I think that is something like really big like addiction to screens and social media and building up self-esteem based on social media all that stuff like really like dealing with that but you don't want to get too specific and say and so you should only be on your phones half an hour well that's not like just keep it we have an issue social media what are some of the just get to some of the core issues and keep it general what else respect respect yeah so there's a lot of one of the things respect of others and at the at the top of that is parents because one of the signs of the end of time according to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam some say there's a weakness in the chain about hadith but the meaning of sound which is one of the signs of the end of time is this respect of parents and this applies to adults as well adults will you know fully grown adults will will disrespect their parents but also young adults deal with this too especially because in social media in media at large in the general the general trend is to is to be accepting of some of this disrespect of parents what else how about motivating our kids to go and do more research and develop of just in general anything we are very much behind in research and development okay so that's more like career career things right or having the thought process towards research and development because we are not in there other people so that's more like a long term yeah so I would say that's kind of like so R and D innovation start thinking about the creation of Allah SWT and see you know how things are working yeah and this leads into even like career choice right because when you're giving your hoops at high school or college level people are in that stage where they're kind of filling in the last stages of their identity and even choosing their career choice right so for example and correct me if I'm wrong and understand this if everybody in the Muslim community is going into engineering and medicine are we doing R and D in other areas that we need development on we're not so you can talk about reach into the history you know the Muslim history golden age of where the Muslims were they were leaders they were thought leaders and they broke new ground they were pioneers you can talk about a lot of that which has a practical application you're not going to tell them don't go into medicine or go into medicine or don't go into Allah you're just going to give a general thing like think deeply about your career and look at what the Muslims used to do is that kind of what you're so one of the uniqueness the uniqueness of the Quran and Islamic general is that we never had a conflict with science and it's actually the Quran that encouraged us to pursue the natural sciences whereas in Christianity it's opposite you know the revival actually forced them to stay away on that interpretation and that's something that can come up in this discussion I would stay away from maybe making that at the level of saying you know the Christians the Muslims they're this because you might have Christians in the audience the reason for a positive stance is this is something that people have this fear that if I become a scientist I have to give up my faith so that actually that leads into another thing but it's you know science the reconciling science evolution I mean even today we're finding things in the Quran that just now very new discoveries right I mean the most recent discoveries in astrophysics how the universe was born we're finding you know very general statements in the Quran that once we understand astrophysics now we can make that connection but today new things are coming up and that's something that a person might be able to bring in I would just caution on a couple things one when you bring it in try to keep it as general as possible because if you zero in too much on it they might you know somebody might say oh look the Quran proved that the earth was a globe long before they thought that well honestly there's also proof in the Quran that it's flat and for many centuries many Muslims thought the earth was flat and they used Quranic evidence so just one word of caution when we look at the Quranic science yes there is definitely evidence like the Daniela and the Quran describing then as you know what that can be the explosion of the stars is like a rose there's evidence you can bring that up but just be careful to go too specific because you might have somebody that says actually you know that's not science is evolving right we only have 15 more minutes so I want to just give to everybody in the group I've been watching your lecture online all these years I think one of the big things is identifying and explaining real rights for women in Islam sometimes now the only thing that also that I would say of right when we get into some of these topics is that don't get too specific right because at the high school college level you know we might just leave it as like the the farewell book about the Prophet Sallallahu Alaih and let's list out what he said and one of the things was rights of women and just talk about it in general but if we go down into too specifics, too much specifics in this a person really has to have studied some of the specifics to properly convey what Islam said about that so to refer to what the scholars have said about that but just trying to say yes there is the rights of women and here are some of the things that they have voting rights that they were involved in the military and so forth and just stayed very general what are some other ones just really quickly in terms of like and I think sister thank you for sharing this this one is a really big one because the people who are attacking us right now are the ultra feminists and so as our sisters are going into the universities I mean the far left and the feminists have really infiltrated a lot of the western education system in academia and it's seen down to even public schools and public schooling so there's some people who would leave the practice of Islam or actually leave Islam altogether because of this point oh you're in Islam is patriarchy and it's you know causes takes away the rights of women so I'll give you one example a friend of mine he's a chaplain at a college on the east coast and he said like clockwork there is a class on women in gender studies that is taught by a lady with ultra left feminist and so forth and like clockwork Muslim sisters go into her class wearing hijab come out not wearing hijab clockwork people go in there as Arabs coming out as self-heating Arabs because Islam is an Arab hegemony like they'll present that this religion is not a religion of diversity and it's not in the common common the most noble of you or the most god no this is actually an Arab religion where the top is are the Arabs and everybody else has to dress like them speak like them and put honors in Arabic and so forth that's he's a chaplain this is happening now so that's one thing too people at MSAs don't do a khutba on music and halal meat that's what everybody is like okay I'm going to become a better practicing Muslim I need to you know music is haram and I have to stop eating meat from McDonald's those are issues we can discuss with them what are those scholarly but that's not the core issue the core issue is somebody are they prepared to go into a university and be hit with all of theseologies and know how to respond does that make sense so yes I think this definitely needs to be explored I will add another one up which is mental health talk about mental health and also bring back specifically my suicide because it's increasing amongst our youth and there's one faith network alliance that I'm a part of their their newsletter and they ask faith communities to dedicate at least one khutba sorry one sermon a year to suicide we have 52 khutbas or Sunday sermons in our faith communities we should have at least one khutba a year about suicide now I would just caution like at the MSAs if you do this topic speak with a professional first we have the Khalil Center here in the Bay Area I've actually suggested to them to do some sort of khutba training but this is, you know, you might just say if you're dealing with some thoughts you can have a general khutba about reaching out but I think there's any other just really quite but we can list them drug use addiction, if you go to many churches they have AA and NA meetings in the church in the church what would happen in our Muslim communities if we have an addiction group meeting over here yeah we are not going to have developed a community until we say look everybody's struggling with something and if a person is struggling some people are genetically predisposed to addiction it's like genetically predisposed to heart condition genetically predisposed to addiction it's not removing the responsibility that they have to do but it's understanding it's not a simple thing so yes talk about addiction and they're using you're at Gordy Valley right brother aren't people using it? it's an issue over there another one actually I've heard from all the high schools all the high schools all the Muslims, somebody's got an issue with drug addiction so yeah what else, what are some other ones excessive materialism or just materialism yeah, talk about materialism maybe the only thing that I would caution about materialism the Muslims we usually talk about it, dunya, dunya, dunya dunya is bad, dunya is bad, dunya is bad this is actually a really complex topic so just be careful of a topic like that because somebody might say oh yeah too much dunya you shouldn't buy a brand new phone you should get refirmished, that's going from guests there should be cautious of the dunya the dunya can also be good don't get into saying oh yeah you should buy MacBook, book pros raise the prices reduce the the inputs the outlets on there that's now just my frustration with Apple any other topics? gender roles gender roles, which goes down here maybe rights of women and gender roles some of these I would say they need more like the previous list that we had those were really general enough to where you didn't have to have a lot of knowledge about it but some of these I would say out of this like a lot of these are complex this is simple, you can tackle this how would somebody in high school or college like what are some let's just say three of these the average Muslim in high school could tackle it in the football the wasting time on social media what else respect the parents drug addiction because that's a pretty clear cut identity basically all things that rights of women rights of women I would say this one is you just want to make sure that the person is presenting it correctly because we have a lot of cultural understandings what if somebody says I think this one should be approached with caution because you don't want to misrepresent the dean and you don't want to offend people you'll offend people when you misrepresent the dean so this is not I think ING that's another good resource for you guys ING does a lot of work on addressing some of these topics so if you have not done the ING training they have material on their website look at the ING material because they address these especially like this one so they have people look at that so look at other material and that's another thing you can do with your Khutbahs too watch other people's Khutbahs and if they're recognized scholars and you can take some people actually what they do is they just listen to a Khutbah take notes and deliver it again there's no problem with that too so you can do that as well what's that? Yeah, no copyrights I don't know the Prophet said can evade from me even if it's one hand so that kind of anything religious related it's not, there's no copyrights on I'm going to get in trouble with that but I'll take the hand no copyrights on the dean this one maybe maybe somebody keep it in terms of like evolution like we didn't come from apes simple well the proof in this and that oh listen, this is we didn't come from apes but be ready for the Khutbah on that one strange Khutbah yeah, I would say these ones just approach with caution the signs just to make sure that the person knows that they're they're this one might be also a little bit I guess everything is getting kind of complicated okay, my notes alright, any final questions I know we'll lose like 3 minutes any final questions okay, well Alhamdulillah I think we went through everything, the video is going to be on it is recorded, it should be on the website soon and we will some of the links and resources I think somebody asked about that listing of the 100 character topics I think this page right here on the social just take everything I think listed on here might be approached simply but just realize you're treading on a little bit more thin ice than those other topics when you go very specific so ING is a good source to see how have Muslim scholars and Muslim researchers address these to be presented ING does a speakers training as well so you can look into that as I think everyone for attending and to MCC for hosting this and inshallah we look forward to seeing more hopeless and also here at MCC during the summer or actually not in the summer but like September August, September, October November those 4 months they have the 3rd Jamal where they have youth Khatibs and they need more youth Khatibs so anybody who's interested in doing Khutbahs as you get more experience you know just reach out to myself or to Munir and if you'd like to get into Khutbahs here for the 3rd Khutbah and then for the sisters you know write in the content you can write the content and the brothers can deliver it so make sure that you have that collaboration what I wanted to do we didn't really have this time maybe we can do a second part of this series where people actually do some role playing Khutbahs and you can give the Khutbahs and now everybody can say okay you missed this point of the 5th you missed this sunnah you know you did this you said this could be could be offensive this point as well so maybe we'll do a second session in a couple of months once you've had some more training are you doing Khutbahs at your high school you are as well oh okay you know so we'll maybe schedule a second session where we do a practical application alright thank you very much let's go