 Welcome back. Welcome back. This is still Y-Morning here on Y-254, the hottest breakfast show in town. So we are on to our first conversation of the day and it's all about career and today we're talking about the mindset. Yes, so if you want to take part in this discussion the hashtag to use is Y-Morning at Y-254 channel and I am joined with an expert with me here is Nangami Masaha. The name is a bit hard for me to pronounce. She is a mentor, a corporate trainer and public speaker. Nangami, thank you for joining us. It's my distinguished honor to be here. Thank you for having me. Welcome. So tell us a bit about who you are and what you do. Who am I? That's a very difficult question. I think a lot that you've asked who am I, I'm going to go into rather the philosophical aspects of it. Who am I? I believe that I'm just a piece of consciousness, some awareness and that has been here, I observe, I adjust and I react. That is who I am. But what I do, like you mentioned, I'm a corporate trainer, I'm a public speaker and that's what I do. But in terms of who I am, I am just a piece of consciousness just moving about the planet. And I believe you're passionate about the youth. Ah, indeed I am, yes. Why the youth? I believe that I was one, okay I'm still young but now that I'm on the third floor I'm tempted to imagine that I'm quite old. But I'm very much passionate about the youth because I have been through experiences, I have encountered things in life that I believe would be quite interesting for the youth to come to understand or for them to learn from inside of us. You know, it is said that sometimes you have to stand on the shoulders of giants. I have stood on the shoulders of giants and I believe that I could also be a giant on whose shoulders other youth can stand and probably learn from me one or two, three things that I have learned and just dish it out. Amazing, amazing. So let's begin talking about the mindset. Sure. What about the mindset? What's so unique about having a positive mindset? Mindset is everything because I don't think anybody can get in life if you have the wrong mindset. Because in the mindset, actually mindset simply puts is the philosophy of life. It's your view on life, what you what you believe life is and the two types of mindsets. There's the fixed mindset and there's the growth mindset. Those are the two things in the mindset and the fixed mindset is what is ubiquitous with most most young people. This is the mindset that is pervasive in most young people. This is where you believe that I have talent that therefore I'm a natural. I don't have to put in much effort. I don't have to do quite much because I'm endowed and effort is for the people that are that are less endowed. So I really don't have to do anything because I'm smart. I'm intelligent. I got it. I have made a start. You know, I've been touched by the hand of God. The people in the fixed mindset believe like that. But then there's the other aspect of the fixed mindset where you believe, oh my goodness talent is everything. I lack talent. Therefore I'm nothing. I just have to sit in my corner wallow and oh well wait to die. Now the antithesis of it, which is the growth mindset, which is now different from all the shenanigans that is happening in the fixed mindset, is believing that yes talent is everything but mindset trumps talent. So in the growth mindset you believe that talent is king but mindset is King Kong. That is the beautiful thing about being in the growth mindset. So you believe that yes I have the talent but for me to go the extra mile I really have to put in the effort and I believe that is where most people are supposed to be in the growth mindset because in the fixed mindset you have people like musicians, even footballers who come to the fore. They do quite impeccable works and then they disappear. Why? Because they think but I've always been smart. I've always been good. How come I'm not stopping the leads? I'm not stopping the charts? It's because they believe I really don't have to do much. I'm God's gift to mankind. I'm a natural. Yes, I'm a natural. This is how things are supposed to be done and where you're supposed to put yourself is in the growth mindset and something else about being in the fixed mindset is where you believe that failure is not an option and I believe this is a platitude that has been put out there a couple of times which is very wrong. Failure is an option. It is an option. It is an option. People say that failure is not an option. Failure is an option. The moment you get into something, when you want to do something, especially for the first time, it's a guarantee that you're going to fail. You're going to suck. You're going to be so bad at it that you're going to almost hate yourself for it. Yes, you're going to give up because it's the first time you're doing something and failure is going to be part of the process. So that's the beautiful thing about being in the growth mindset. You're not bothered by failure. If anything, you like a challenge. So you fail at it and then you stand back again and you win the next time. Yes, you keep on doing it. You keep on doing it over and over again until you become so good at it. So how does one come from the fixed mindset which you said is not quite positive? So how does one come out of the fixed mindset? You really have to do the work on yourself and self-awareness is important, which this is where personal development comes in, because you have to understand where you are. Now, just to take you back probably in terms of my own life journey and why I became so interested in the youth, because my 20s, like I mentioned, I'm in the third floor, so you can understand that I'm quite, I consider myself a dinosaur. So I'm thinking that I'm a Neanderthal. So I'm thinking that there's something I can teach the youth. So in my 20s, I was a bit mediocre in the way I did my things. And I got pregnant early on in life, not early on. Actually, I was 21 when I got pregnant. I was a second year at the university. So there's really nothing much right for me about myself. So I struggled through college because despite the fact that my parents were supporting me through it, it wasn't the best condition to bring up a child. So I got into the mindset of just the struggle and struggle became a part of me. So I figured, ah, I just want, if I was in the West, this would, this is what I'd have in mind. I just want a small car, a small house and just have the picket fence. Yeah, that's enough. That's all I want to have. And then 2018 happened. This is when I hit rock bottom. I had lost my job because I was working in Mumbasa in a logistic company. And then the company folded and they went to Western. So I was left in Mumbasa. I didn't have anything to do. My son at that particular point had, he had fractured his hand and he had done, he had undergone through surgery like twice. So I was his caregiver. I don't have a job. His bedridden is supposed to take care of him like the entire time 24, 7 a day. I can't get out of the house. Having a house help was, and it was quite expensive for me to even just say I can have a help so that I can go out there and hustle. So what happened is that the bills kept on racking up now. I kept on having a pile of bills and of course like the quintessential struggle story. I couldn't, I wasn't able to like take care of myself. So I was kicked out of the house with my son. But here's the beautiful thing about this story, which makes it a bit, a bit much better for me was that before I was kicked out of my house, the caretaker was a very nice gentleman. So he came and told me, you know what, you have arayas for two months. Your bills have piled up for two months. So what you're going to do, we're supposed to come and kick you out of the house on Friday. But I don't want to humiliate you. I don't want to embarrass you. So kindly just do me a favor. Just leave the house before done. Because you have a child and I wouldn't want to throw you out with a child and I know your struggles and know what you've been through. So I said, thank you so much for the, for the heads up. I'll leave before noon and I left and I just packed a small bag for myself and my son and I went to my cousin's and I went instead there. And so I figured I don't have money to come and pay the rent. So I called my father and I didn't tell him that I had arayas that had piled. So told him, I can't meet rent for this month. How about you just sort me out and he sent me the money I called the tenant, the caretaker and told him I have one month's rent. Can I pay and then because you have my deposit, I can't just come pick my stuff because I knew from that point on there's no way I was going to clear that bill. And I told my cousin, hey, you have a big house. She was staying in a two bedroom that time and her son had gone to boarding school. So I told her, you have a big house. I bought a ticket just come and help you, you know, around the house. Let me just come and stay with you because she's expectant. You are all alone. I can't keep your company. I didn't tell her that I want to come and stay with you because I've been kicked out of my house. It's only two weeks ago. That was a good strategy. Yes, it was only two weeks ago when she was at my place. She told me, you know, I figured there was something wrong with you. I just knew. I just, I just, because I told her, I told her, but then, you know, when I came to stay with this, because I had missed rent and she said, I knew there was something there. I knew it. Yeah, she knew it. And so I went, packed my stuff and came and stayed with her and ended up staying at her place for eight months. And she was very, I feel indebted to her because I don't think there's anybody who can take you in with a child for eight months, taking care of everything, literally everything, the bills, the rent, everything with food, when without ever asking, whether or not you're planning to leave. Yes. Oh, you're here for how long? Oh, could you please just pay the tokens? Like she took care of everything and I'm always, I'm forever indebted to her. Hi, Lucy. Yes, so that was my story. So during that time, in those eight months, without a job, I was barely surviving and I was just surviving off my cousins. That is the time now where I figured I want to do something different because I'm a trained financial and investment analyst, but I didn't feel like I had it in me to, you know, be corporates. Just be good, be good. How should I put it? Work with the numbers. I'm good with numbers, but I don't think that is what I wanted to do. So in these eight months, it was a time for me to introspect and then find out what I wanted to do. So the beautiful thing about it, and I consider myself incredibly privileged, is that I had the eight months to now sit and decide what I wanted to do. So I decided to do public speaking. I said, I want to be a public speaker. I don't know what public speaking is all about, but I'm going to find out. Wow, you just knew this is it. This is what I want to do because I used to think, okay, most people would tell me that you have the gift of gab. So I said, if I have the gift of gab, then how about I get into something that is going to help me propel this gift that you people are saying I have, which is public speaking. In high school, I was in drama club or even primary school. So I always wanted to be before a camera, before people, before a stage, trying to either entertain, educate, or inspire. So I figured I can't go back to Nairobi. I don't have the money at this point to go to Nairobi and go to the National Theater. So let me try this thing of public speaking. And I had to start from zero. What is public speaking? Who are public speakers? How do you become a public speaker? And I realized it's not that easy. For you to be a public speaker, you need to understand the laws of speech. You need to be vast with that. You need to read a lot because you need to understand your subject matter. Because before you speak to a group of people, you need to be a subject matter expert. I don't want to come before a group of people and just blow, I'll just give them your hot air. You need to understand everything that you're doing. So I had to go back and read. I had to start reading about the things that I wanted to talk about. And this is, this had to take a period of time, but it was one step at a time. But in that moment, then I discovered myself. And that is why most of the time I love to reiterate the words of the beautiful and elegant, legendary J.K.L. Rowling. And she says that rock bottom is the foundation upon which she built her life. And I'm thinking, that speaks to me. Rock bottom is also the foundation upon which I built my life. You had to go to reach rock bottom for YouTube. Yes, for me to start rising. Because of course, once you hit rock bottom, the only way out is up. The only way is up. I love that. Okay. So from, you know, from your story, for someone, you know, going through something and some people don't take time, you know, sometimes life gets ahead of you and things are moving too fast. So is it okay to just stop, take a break for a while and then just introspect and then now start again? Yes. In fact, pause is a very beautiful aspect. It's a very beautiful, I think it's a skill that everybody should master. Whenever life has given you like blows, because life will punch you not only in your stomach, but it gives you a damn slap in your face. Sometimes, you know, you think, oh my goodness, I'm hurting. My tummy life is going to give me a break. No, it won't. It's going to come at you every step of the way. So you have to pause, you have to take time and find out what is going to work for you. Because if you don't pause, you might just end up just going through life and going through emotions. And then you wake up, yes, you wake up 10 years later. You're in something you despise, something you deeply appalled and you don't know where time went. So you have to pause and find out what is it that you really want to do. And just sit it out and wait. The beautiful thing about to pause is what we saw with the pandemic. All of us were forced to pause. To pause. Yes, all of us were forced to pause and think and to strategize and to structure life, which was a beautiful thing. Because now moving forward, moving forward, we've seen what has happened now and we have approached life differently. So I think pause is a beautiful skill to master. Amazing. I'm loving it. So we'll just take a short break and then we'll be back, you know, to get into details on Marta's mindset. So don't go too far. We take a short musical break. We'll be right back. Martín. Welcome back again. Thank you for staying with us. If you're just joining, we are talking about the mindset and we are joined by Nangami Masaka, who is a public speaker to help us with this particular topic. Nangami, before we went, was still speaking on mindset and have told us about your story and you've told us the need to take a pause when we need to and we strategize and everything. Now I want to know, is there a difference between mindset and attitude? It's just the same thing. Most of the time, your mindset will determine your attitude. So attitude, I believe, is a consequence. It's a byproduct of the mindset. Because if you have the right mindset, then automatically you'll have the right attitude. Because in life, the first thing you're supposed to do, you think first. Actually, you don't think first. You see what you want to see and then you, no, I think I'm getting this wrong. You think, you see it and then you become it. You think, you see it and then you become it. Yes. So when you think, when you think about something, when you think about somebody who's hurt you, the feelings that you're going to have is anger feelings. And then your attitude thereabout will be a nasty attitude towards them. So it first starts with the mind because everything is coordinated from here, from the mind. So you need to have the right mindset. And then you see what you want to become. You have to see it. It has to be visible to you. It has to be clear. You have to be clear about where you want to go. And then you become it. And people think, oh, first I have to become it for me to, I have to become what I want to become. Then I can believe it or then I can see it. You have to think it, you see it and then you believe it. So your mindset will determine your attitude. And this is something that was very beautiful if you had to go back. For those of you who are historians or for those of you who've studied a little bit of history, you know that the men, the toughest men in battle. And I want to refer to Julia Caesar and Cortez. So Julia Caesar, when he was landing on the shores of England, what they did or what he did with his men is that they burnt the ships. And so Julia Caesar, this particular point, he started, he's standing on a cliff or is it a reef? And with his men, he shows them the tongues of fire that are just engulfing the ships. And he shows them and he says, it's either we win or we perish. There's no going back. There's no retreat. And this is something that Cortez did when he got to Aztec. And he went to annihilate or decimate the government of like historians, Montezuma, people who know Cortez and Montezuma and what happened. Cortez went to Aztec and he went about taking the entire nation and conquering it. So Cortez did the same thing. When they go to the shore, they burnt the ships. So when you burn the ships, the soldiers knew there's no going back. There's no retreat. There's no surrender to do or die. We either win or we perish. So that's the kind of attitude. Now they went to war, knowing that we can't go back. Our ships have been destroyed. So we are here to win. So if you have that mindset of there's no retreat, no surrender, you understand that either I win or I perish. Now you have the right attitude. So that's the right way to set your mindset? Your mindset. You win or you win? Yes. Actually, because you don't want to perish. I don't believe there's anybody that wants to perish. Yes, no one wants to perish. And this is something that I love. I think I'm a huge proponent of the learned mindsets. And of course I'm female, so I'm allowed to be biased. The learnedest mindset. Because the lion is fierce. The lion is incredibly fierce. But when you look at the lion, he doesn't have any superior advantages to any other animal. But the lion is fierce in the mindset. Because we have been told a couple of times that the lion will never eat grass, come rain, come sunshine. And when the lion arises in the morning, they say that in Africa, there's a white man who came to Africa and said that it's in the morning, the gazelle wakes up and he knows it has to run. And the lion knows it only has to run as fast as the slowest gazelle. That's it. So when the lion wakes up in the morning, and the gazelle, when the animals, the lion and gazelle wakes up in the morning, they know they have to run. Either way, you run. You run. Yes. So when you have the fierce mindset, when you have that sort of mindset, then it detects your attitude. You know that you go through life, not as a by the way, not as a failure. Because sometimes there's a beautiful poem by a guy called Rudyard Kipling. It's called If. And there's a line that I love. And it says that if it's if in fact, is a poem, he's writing the poem to his son. And he's telling him how there are very many aspects in life that can make him a man. And he says that if you encounter defeats and triumph, and you treat both impostors just the same, then you, my son, are a man. That means that if you meet triumph and disaster, these are impostors, they're not you. Your success is not you. Your failure is not you. So most people want to be defined by their successes. But their failures, you take a big blow. It's like, oh, we're going to have a failure. You become, you either a success or a failure. But if you understand that those two are impostors, they don't define who you are, then you just have a winning attitude and a winning mindset just knowing, well, whatever happens. So then who would you say you are if you're not your success, if you're not your failure? So how should one define themselves? You have to define yourself now by by you and you need to have a value system. You need to have a value system. Who are you? You need to be resilient. I'm resilient. And I am strong. I'm kind. I'm compassionate. I embody integrity. Those are some of the things that you need to have. So whatever happens, whether it's a failure or it's a success, the subject that is happening or something that has happened to you, you just go about life knowing. At the end of the day, I have integrity. I failed, yes, but I have integrity. I failed, yes, but I have resilience. And which, in fact, the story of resilience, break bit to something. I don't know if you can give the time. Yes. In 1980, 1980, in the United States. I love history because I love what Steve Jobs loves to say. We live life forward, but we connect the dots backward. So you have to see where you came from and why things are the way they are. And this is, of course, your audience is young people, so I want, this is something that probably they will resonate with. In 1980, in the United States, there's something called the self-esteem movement. So very genuine, very noble cause. It was initiated by parents and teachers because they wanted to empower their kids. Any other self-esteem is all about personal value and self-worth. So they wanted to empower their kids so that they can have a very high value of themselves. If you have a higher esteem, it means that you value yourself more. If you have a low self-esteem, it means that you don't like yourself that much. That means that you have a low self-esteem. You have low value for yourself. So they figured, okay, the best way, in fact, the fact that it was a very noble movement, it was a very noble idea. The execution was incredibly flawed and it was erratic in terms of execution and in terms of the techniques. So here's the thing. They said, okay, we are going to shower the kids with rewards and with praises just for attempting. If you are numberless, you're told, ah, but you tried. You're very good. If you played, it doesn't matter whether the key was off, you're told, ah, but you're the next Mozart. You're the next Beethoven. Don't worry, you're good. So they would reward them for anything, for the bare minimum, for the bare minimum in mediocrity. And then 10 years later, after now, these kids have left the school system and they were outside now in the real life. They were incredibly sensitive and because they did not, they were sheltered from criticism and adverse consequences because they don't know how to take in criticism. So you've played the piano all your life. You've gone through life knowing that you were Mozart, that you're Beethoven. And then you come out here and people boo you offstage. They tell you, you're not as good as you think. You suck. Your music is horrible. You work. And most of them would fall. Most of them would just, they would fall apart because they, what? What are you saying? I'm Mozart. I'm Beethoven. I am good. So it ended up being a flawed concept because now most people went through life, especially the young people, they went through life thinking that self-esteem is all about pumping yourself with good vibes and positivity all about you. And so the counts are narrative for it or the antithesis for it. The antidote, I should I say, was resilience. You build on resilience that you know that despite the adversities that you're going to face in life, you have to push through. It doesn't matter the criticism that you face. If anything, criticism is important because it makes you stronger and it builds your temerity. It builds your metal. You become better at doing the things that you want to do. So for instance, if you played the key wrongly, you're told, okay, just learn the key. Just learn how to play key. See, that is what you're supposed to learn. Don't bother about being Mozart. Don't bother about being Beethoven. You're just going to do it. Or when you draw, your child draws, for instance, or when you're young, just focus on the eyes and focus on the lips and focus on the nose. Don't focus about, oh my goodness, this drawing is horrible. I'm not Picasso. I am not Michelangelo Edivore. I can't do this, you know. And yes, because most of them are told, ah, this is great. This is amazing. This is Picasso material. You're the next Picasso. And then you go to the world and you're told, this thing is not worthy to go to any gallery and people would just fall apart. Oh my goodness, I'm not Picasso after all. Because your reality has really come down on you. Yes. You've been beat up. Somebody has told you, you're not as good enough. You don't measure up as you thought. But somebody who has resilience, you persevere through the adversity to the criticism and just know I need to get the eyes right, which is very important even as a young person when you go through life. You don't measure yourself with the goal or with the result, the end product. You have to measure yourself or you have to equip yourself in terms of the process. Okay. Let's take it back to the young people in high school. I'm thinking most of them have left high school. You're told, ah, you got 90 percent. You're smart. You're intelligent. You're bright. You're brilliant. Wrong. What you're supposed to do is tell them, ah, you got 90 percent. You must have worked hard to get 90 percent. You must have done your remedials. You must have. So they know that. Yes. You must have faster to the teacher. Yes. So you go, you get your 90 percent and you're like, oh my goodness, I worked hard. I got 90 percent because I worked hard. No, because I'm intelligent. Not because I'm intelligent. Yes. Because what if you're given a test that is difficult and you can't do it because I don't think there's anybody who has the monopoly of knowledge or wisdom. Nobody has the, nobody's a purveyor of wisdom. So you can't, you can't say that all the time you're going to score 90. There's a time where you get a score that is 60 percent. So does that mean that you're no longer smart? No, it doesn't mean that. Yes. So the focus should be, shouldn't be on the end product that you're brilliant and you're smart in this one word term, these generic terms that you have for people. It's supposed to strictly be on the process. Yes. Oh, you got 60 percent next time you do better. So it's encouraging. You understand that, okay, I didn't do better last time. This has nothing to do with me. Just has everything to do with effort that maybe next time I'm going to put in effort. Okay. I applied for a position. Maybe the email I sent wasn't good enough. Maybe I just haven't mastered the art of CV writing. Maybe my letter heads aren't good enough if you're running a business or whatever and clients aren't coming to your door. You understand, okay, let me run. Let me learn. Let me try to see how I'm going to up my game and become better. So you say that's the mindset. So nothing faces you really. You just understand this is a challenge and I'm going to do my best to make sure that I come the other side and scared. And if I'm scared, however, I have, I bear the scars of war, but it just means that I'm going to be a better individual for it. Yes. And, you know, for some, it's easy, you know, it's easier said, you know, to say that you need to have a positive mindset and all that, but sometimes the barriers come, you know, the environment that you are in is a barrier for some people. So how do they work against this, you know, to still have a positive mindset? That's a brilliant question because, you know, they say that we are products of our environment. And that is where self awareness has to come in. You have to understand where you're coming from and you have to take responsibility for this life. Unfortunately, nothing comes for free. You have to pay a price, they sacrifice, there's a cost for anything. Everything has a cost. And you understand your environment. Most people know that I come either you know that you come from affluence, you know that you enjoy or your demonstration of opulence, that is something that you can see clearly. And there are those who know that they come from limiting environments. You can see that you come from a limiting environment. You can tell that your environment was toxic. You can tell that your environment was limited in terms of resources. So you can tell. And we're living in the 21st century where information is at the palm of our hands. So you don't have an excuse as to why you don't have the information that you need. You know, if it was our parents, then we would say, yeah, they didn't have the knowledge, they didn't have the books. But today we have everything. So personal development, that's why it's called personal development. It's personal. You have to take the initiative to say my environment is limiting, but I'm going to get myself out of this. Because in history, all through history, we've seen men and women who have reason to be captains of industry. And yet they had nothing to write home about in terms of the environment and where they came from, but they had to pull themselves from the pits of hell from where they were in. So this is, it's a very personal journey. You have to understand where you are. And the problem with environment is that most people conform. Most people, yes, most people conform because, okay, in my environment, people never went to school. Where I come from, people don't aspire for more. Where I come from, people don't do this. Where I come from, people don't do that. Where I come from, people don't travel abroad. People don't even dream, don't dare to dream. And you conform. And this is a very interesting, it's a very interesting psychological experiment. One that was, let me also just cast a historical lens on this one. Let me just cast a historical lens on this one. So in 1981, there's a psychologist called Solomon Ash. For those people who are in psychology class, you know Solomon Ash. So Solomon Ash came up with this experiment. It's called the theory of conformity. So he brings confederates into a room and he tells them, hi, these confederates, of course, they're part of the experiment, but they are participants who don't know that. So assuming that I am part of the participants and I'm brought into a room. And so Solomon Ash has a blackboard here. So for the second argument, let's just assume that there are four lines. And then the fifth one, the four lines are similar in terms of length and probably size. But the fifth one is slightly longer. And so one person comes in. So the confederates are like 10. So they come in one by one and they say, those lines are similar. The four lines and the fifth line are similar. First, second, up until the 10th, the 10th person, they come in and they say those lines are similar. So they leave the room and then the experimenter asks the participant, what do you think? What is your opinion regarding those lines? And I kid you not, every single time people said those lines are the same, despite the fact that there's overwhelming evidence to suggest that the fifth line was nowhere close to the length of the four lines. Yes, people conformed. People said, because it is very difficult for most people to stand their ground. Most people don't have the spine to say, to have their own opinions and say, I'm sorry, but the fifth line is different. I kid you, most people, 24%, only 24% of the people in the experiment did not conform. That goes to show you that the majority conformed. This means that in society people are willing to change their thoughts, their ideas, their belief systems, their values to match that of the group. And that is why the people who have gone to do marvelous things in society are not, they are considered crazy. They are not part of society. And they say that society is just nothing but normalized average, a system of normalized averages. These are people, you do the average thing. Most of you just do basically the same thing. So the people who go on to do extraordinary things are considered outliers. We call them outliers because they don't play to the whims of society. So when you conform, especially as a result of the environment, most people conform because I have seen people do this. I have seen people in my family. We are teachers. So we're just going to be teachers. We have done it by family people, accountants. We don't do anything else. That's just us. That's what we do. In our family, we don't do ads. We don't do the creatives. We don't do none of that. We just play ball. And that is very dangerous, especially for somebody who thinks that they have something else to offer and something else to give. It ends up stifling your creativity. And the person probably that you, yes, the person that you're meant to become. Okay. So now you've at least shed light to what we can do to curb the environment and everything. So now once you have a positive mindset, is it enough to have a positive mindset and just leave it there or is there something that you need to do extra? The beautiful thing about, in fact, that's a beautiful question because people have a great mindset. But when the rubber meets the road, that's when everybody else now just scatters. People go their separate ways because what you're supposed to do is execute. You have the growth mindset. You know that effort is everything. Because I know that most people have ideas. People have ideas. We don't have a short supply when it comes to ideas. People have ideas. But people don't, yeah, people are very creative. People have, you know, I can sit here and say, but they have an idea about this room. We can do this. We can do this and we can do that. And then I live. You do nothing about it. I don't write an email to whoever is in charge of this place. I don't do anything to suggest that, okay, I'm going to come with my own concepts of what I'm going to do and see how we're going to send to change the structure here. Just have this idea and then I go home. Or I tell you, but they have an idea about what you're supposed to do. How about you get into business and then we do something and I go home and I sleep over it and I never wake up from it. I just sleep over it and continue sleeping over it. You sleep over it. Yes, until the end of time. I never wake up to do anything. So execution is very important. You have to act. You have to act. And the problem with most people and most young people, the reason why we don't act is because we're waiting for perfect conditions. I'm waiting for a mentor. I'm waiting for resources. I'm waiting for the perfect time before I can start, before I can do this. Most of the time we just start. I started. I'm nowhere close to where I want to go. But you started. But I started by looking for public speaking. What is public speaking? And that took me time because I figured this is not something that I want to do. I don't think I have the ability or the capacity to start before people and speak and say anything. Who wants to listen to me? I don't think I have anything meaningful that somebody would listen to let alone pay top dollar for it. I didn't think that was possible, but I had to start from somewhere. And then, yes, and then here I am. And then how to look at the mentors in the industry. If we get over, oh my goodness, all these people are bougie. They have done their time. People have 15 years to their belt. You're looking at public speakers. You're told Tony Robbins. You're thinking, Tony Robbins, I have no much to Tony Robbins. Who am I in Africa and a woman black in a hard world country? But the beautiful thing about dreams is that your dream is supposed to scare you. It's supposed to scare everybody around you. If it doesn't scare you, then it's not big enough. It's supposed to scare you so that you know that, especially when you go through life, there are some dreams that are supposed to be unattainable so that it becomes a constant pursuit. It becomes a constant pursuit. You're always pursuing it. You know that. I may never be Einstein, but I'll be a good physicist. No doubt about that. I'll be a good physicist, but I may never be Einstein. So if you say that you want to be Einstein smart, that may be aiming too high, but chances are Einstein is here, you get here. That's good enough. Yeah, and you did the best. And they say, you should aim to be better than you were yesterday. You're only competitor. Sure. So how important is that as we come to a close in this conversation? Mm-hmm. So how important is you just competing with yourself and not competing with other people and having the pressures of life defeat you, you know, build you down? The beautiful thing about, in fact, that is a very important question, even as we wrap up, maybe this is something, if they forget everything else, probably they should remember this, that comparison is the number one killer or stealer of joy. It will take away so much from you because you go about life comparing yourself. Yeah. And when you compare yourself, there's a high chance that you'd want to compete because I am looking at you and what you're doing and I'm comparing myself to you. Oh my goodness, she's young. She's eloquent. She's exceptionally beautiful. I love the class. I love the touch of brilliance that she has. And I want to compare myself to, when I compare myself to you, that means that I'll have to compete. So I'll structure my life to look like yours. And the beautiful thing or the worst thing about it is that I can do a great impersonation of you, but I can never be you. There's only one you. There's only one Nangami. You can aspire to be like Nangami. You can aspire to be like Steve, but you can never be them. And the beautiful thing about it also is that it's because of authenticity. You bring your authentic self to everything that you do. So you might be doing something that is ubiquitous to everybody else in society, but you are unique, you're authentic. And that is why people come to you specifically because there's something about you that is special to you. There's a gift that has been bestowed upon you by the heavens, by the universe, by God, whichever proclivity you believe in that is specific to you. And you have to ascend to that place of talent and gift. And you have to give it your best. And you have to understand that you are the personification of divinity. You are the personification of divinity. Never forget that. Human beings. When you look at human beings and the universe, this is how you see God. This is how we see God. The universe, the cosmos, and the way it is. So you have to understand. You have to understand that when you look at it, you have to understand that then the reason why you're here, it is to serve humanity, serving a purpose that is more than yourself. So when you, when you withdraw inwards or when you just go back inwards to find out who you are, you'll find it. The answer is there. You'll find it. Amazing. There's no better place to end this. The last one that you've just mentioned. Finally, just tell people where they can find you, if someone wants to reach you. And if anyone wants to take anything from this, what would you want that to be? This is your camera. My social media, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. That's my name. And please go follow, leave a comment. I'd really love to hear from you. And your feedback, by the way, your feedback is critical to me. It's very important. I'd want to think what you think about everything. And my tech home is this. Just believe in yourself. It's a platitude. No, it's cliche. It has been said over and over again, but just believe in yourself, because you have to believe in yourself before anybody can believe in you. And this is something that I was, it's something that I said, I was somewhere else over the weekend, and I would want to reiterate what I said. Kasha's clay, aka Muhammad Ali, believed in himself, called himself the greatest of all time way before everybody else could, everybody else knew who Muhammad Ali was. He believed himself, called himself the greatest of all time. In fact, I am implied to believe that he's the one who coined the first God, the greatest of all time, was the greatest boxer. And he believed himself way before anybody believed in who he was. So just, just believe in yourself. It's my tech home. Thank you very much, Nangami. That was incredible. We hope to have you again. Thank you for having me. And I hope to be here again. Yes, we love to have you. So that has been Nangami Masakashi, a mentor, a corporate trainer, and a public speaker talking to us about mindset. I know you have taken something from this. If not, just believe in yourself. That has been our, you know, our final word on this. So how about we take a short break and then drama Goko will be coming on board with youth and politics.