 On Senator Baker, I just want to ask how you felt about his leadership in the Senate. And to what extent did you contribute to his success on the bill for his efforts? Well, first of all, I think his leadership has been magnificent. It's been most constructive. It has been responsible for much of the bipartisan success that we've had. Yes, I'm trying to say I don't think we could have had the successes that we've had up there without his leadership. Notice on a few occasions. Yesterday he has come up here with some of the other Republican leaders with some assassins. Well, it wasn't as much as it sounds he does however, and this is something that's more valuable. He comes frequently with very realistic summations of what the problems are on the hill, what is doable and then what is possibly doable and what is possibly not doable. And yet, when decisions are made, he's out there running interference and trying to make the play of work. Whether or not he has initially agreed with it. So you feel he has been a major factor in the success of your program? That's fine, that's all I want to ask. He's a nice man too. He sure is. He's a very, very decent man. Everybody uses the same words in the sky. Very low-key and principled. Low-key and high-principled. Does he remind you of any of the Ladybots? No, just no one makes her. Do you feel that sometimes he and the other Republicans that they were too pessimistic? And they were asking us what can be done? No, I don't. I think that they, as I say, they're very realistic in their estimating of what's doable. And we usually find ourselves in pretty much an agreement on the difficulties of that. We have relied on him for information on timing of something, when to bring something up or when not to, when we're in the midst of, say, a struggle on one particular issue. And it's been good sound advice. Has he also suggested who to approach and how to approach on the Hill? What senators might be waiver and AWACS? I was thinking of the AWACS. Well, we've depended on him more for advice on counting noses and where is the opposition. And then we waited and tried to commit something. Have you grown closer to him in a year? Over in this year, yes. And you rely on him? Yes. Marty, one thing. You might want to mention, I don't think we've got the details in the doubt, but very lively before you are, who comes out the president, he's spending a weekend with Senator Baker down in Tennessee. He has an invitation to you. Oh, how great. Yeah, it's supposed to be a wonderful place. I worked down with him two weeks ago in Nashville and Memphis. But the Huntsville place is supposed to be just great. Well, I think a very typical thing about him was in 76 when, obviously, there was some feeling because I was a candidate in the primaries. He was in support of the incumbent president, which I think was proper. But when I found myself campaigning in his vicinity, he had imagined myself as house guests. He enjoyed at their home. He has a sense of the appropriate listening. He has whatever is happening or whatever the affairs of the moment. I'm also intrigued by his hobby as a photographer because it suggests that he's not that involved in what's happening at the moment that he can't step outside. One of his pictures is over on that table. He took a snapshot of the ranch and a large one there. I'm just frame them. I'll show it to you. Oh, I'd like to see them. That's just fine, Mr. President. I also want to meet you too. Thank you, sir. Nice to see you. Which is his photograph? You have a full-up here. And it is just, that's a beauty. Is that a document? Yeah, very much. That's Millie. All that is lovely. Thank you so much. Well, pleasure. Fine. Good seeing you sir. See you. Thank you, Mr. President. You bet. Mr. President? Mr. President? Hello there. How are you? I'm good. Mr. President? This is E. Ron. This is E. Ron. You know, I had to unbick some 40 years ago when you were there with the Wella Parsons and now remember you were there. Yes. I had a date with Tony Hardy who used to be from the Rock River Valley Queen or something. What? 40 years ago. Oh my God. Well, listen, let's, you and me go over there and I'll get you there and then you'll join us. All right. Thank you. You care quite a lot about there. Very good. All right. Thank you very much. Well, listen, this is a pen. I don't know if it would need me down with it. And so you won't forget. It's got legs. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. This has been a real honor and privilege. I know. Please, that you will do it. Oh, I appreciate it very much. We're looking forward to it around our way. OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't think so. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We will cut a deal next time that if any of these guys ever do a photo again and try to use it for commercial purposes, that they take the proceeds and give it to charity. What do you think? He may probably 15,000 off of the Newsweek cover? He probably stands to a long line. Yeah. He sent me four pictures. I I heard he sent me three. He sent me three, I'll show you the ones he gave me on their wall. Thank you. I wouldn't show them in. First officer, Mike Armacost? Yes. This is Armacost. Oh, hi. This is Armacost. Hello there. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. This is Ambassador Armacost. Where's your first show? We've met a senior show there a number of times. We're looking forward to taking you on this assignment. Wow. This is, that's you and me going over there. You should take him there and then you and Commander Jones. Hi. How are you? How are you? I'm good. My brother's got some cards. What? He was very impressed. So I'm walking the door. Oh, it's coming to the president. Well, I would like to join. Wow. I know you must have been on the Philippines. Oh, yes. I think so. So I can tell you this. I can tell you a story of discouragement. Okay. But the Israeli nation sent us on a trip to the Philippines. A couple of other places when I was governor of California. And we were guests in the palace and I was a man. And they do live well. We were in a Nancy gas stand, anything that crawls. And I was in one room with this house boy. And I looked up and lay up on this high ceiling. I guess I was pretty high. It was the biggest bug I've ever seen. It was about that little hole in the legs out. And I caught the boy and I sketched him. And maybe we were going to have to do something to get rid of that. Oh, it should be a good move. It should be in this room. Not one of the man's that he came back with a spray can. And he started spraying. And I swear. Minutes went by. Finally it began to waver. And I'll swear it was a big admitted thug. And the man, as he picked it up on the desk to him, he says, it's just a cock a roach. They come from the kitchen. That was our opening. Oh, well, that is a pin for you. And a tie bar for you. Come here, sir. So you won't forget us. All right. All right. That's right. I found him quite an interesting jar. You know, he was the leader. Yes, hello there. How are you? Do you miss your house? Do you need a dresser? Yes, tell them. Send me. Send me? How are you? It's a seal. I appreciate it. And then all of you. And then all of you. All right. Thank you. For you. Titech. For you, gentlemen. Thank you. And this is a jar that has this seal. It's engraved on it on the inside. And it's filled with jelly beads. But they're welcome.