 Welcome everyone to the community meeting for the Harmon Road Improvements. The project is going to begin at US 287. We'll go all the way to Golden Triangle Bonds Ranch Road. I am Alex Alejandra Ayala. I am the project manager for the City of Fort Worth on this project. Also attending this meeting is our design engineer, Dana Schumart, with Kimley Horn and Associates. Representing the contractor is McCarthy Building Companies. We have Riley Seahorn and Alejandro Vela. The agenda for tonight's meeting is we're going to show you the project location. We're also going to talk a little bit about the existing conditions of the current road. The description of the project, a phasing overview, the construction schedule, and at the end we will have questions. So the Harmon Road project begins at US 287 and it goes all the way up to Bonds Ranch Road slash Golden Triangle Boulevard. The project is approximately 1.6 miles of roadway, which will be reconstructed with this project. The existing roadway consists of one lane in each direction and some areas still have side road ditches. As many of you are aware, the existing roadway does not have the necessary capacity to carry the daily vehicular traffic in the area. The description of the project, it will consist of a concrete four lane divided roadway, which means it will have the medians in the middle. We will be constructing 10 foot shared use paths on both sides of the road. We're going to have dual lane roundabouts at the intersections of Golden Triangle, Heritage Trace, and Presidio Vista. Along with the roadway, we are going to make storm drainage improvements. We have some waterline relocations that also need to take place. We're going to be adding street lights and we're also going to be adding a traffic signal at Harmon and Quill Grove for the proposed fire station for the city of Fort Worth that is currently under design. Currently, the roadway has four way stop signs at Heritage Trace and Golden Triangle. There are no controls at Sonoma Creek and Presidio Vista, making it very difficult to make a left turn out of the shopping center and neighboring facilities. So why did we choose roundabouts? After evaluating both traffic signals and roundabouts, the city determined that roundabouts would mitigate congestion better than traffic signals. By decreasing the delay at these intersections, Harmon Road will be constructed in eight phases during a 24 month time period. Two lanes along Harmon will remain open at all times. We will need partial closures in order to construct the intersection. There is limited workspace and this also helps expedite the construction schedule. Only one intersection will be closed at a time and to limit the detour length, that's the options that we chose to do in order to be able to not put too much burden on the traveling public. So just a little brief explanation on the traffic phases. The existing roadway will remain open while two new lanes are being constructed on the east side of the road. As you can see on this bottom diagram with the gray area. The city plans to keep two lanes of roadway open at all times during all the construction phases. And here you can see in the blue the area that's going to be constructed during the phase one. Phase one of the project will begin at Presidio Vista, which will be closed for approximately two and a half months beginning in April 2021. We've shown in this map alternate routes to get around the area. So the alternate route is along Sonoma Creek to Tahama Reach Parkway, which will then take you north to Heritage Trace or south to North Tarrant Parkway. The duration of this closure once again is two and a half months. During phase three of the project, a partial closure will occur at the west leg of Heritage Trace Parkway, leaving the east side of the road open to through traffic. As you can see here in the red hatched area of the map. Local traffic can detour through Solvia Drive to get back on Heritage Trace, which is north of the closure. The partial closure is approximately three months beginning in September of 2021. Phase four of the construction will be the west leg of Bonds Branch Road. Golden Triangle will remain open on the east side of the road and Harmon will also remain open during this time. We recommend avoiding the area if possible. The detour for motorists trying to get to 35 West would be to travel south on Blue Mountain Road to Highway 287. This is the longest phase of the project, which is five months. So this closure will begin somewhere around January 2021 and around June 2022. Phase five of the project is constructing the east leg of Golden Triangle. During this phase, the duration will be about three months and it will begin around June 2022 until September 2022. Phase five also consists of a partial closure at Harmon Road north of the Bonds Branch Road and Golden Triangle intersection. The duration for this phase is approximately one month. The notice to proceed to McCarthy is March 22, 2021 with a substantial completion date of March 22, 2023. And here you see the various durations and when they plan to start the various phases of the construction project. I wanted to share with you the My Fort Worth app, which is a great way for residents to report issues on long roadways or city-owned properties. The app allows you to take a picture using your phone's GPS. The app will determine the exact location of the issue and report it to the appropriate department to come out and investigate. This can be downloaded from the app store and Google Play. The city inspector for this project is going to be Dennis Rogers and here is my contact information with the city, my email address as well as my phone. And our contractor is McCarthy Building Company Inc. And our design engineer and firm is Kimley Horn and Associates. And with that, I will open it up for questions. I'm George Torres. I'm over in Harmon Ranch. The question, when you close off Heritage Trace at Harmon, and you have the Salvia Road as the alternate, and you're starting in Septemberish time frame, September-Octoberish time frame, that's going to be deep in the time for school in the mornings. And of course, a lot of folks take that side road, that road Harmon Road in the evenings. Is there going to be any thought to a stop sign or some sort of control at Salvia because it gets extremely crowded there and making a left turn is probably going to be problematic at best. And again, with all the construction going on, it's just going to congest that area even more so. And we're talking in the morning for the schools that we have around the area and then the evening when people are coming home from work. Alex Vela with McCarthy. Hi, everyone. This is Alejandro Vela. I'm going to be the superintendent for the project. Yes, that's a great point. We will have to evaluate right now. We have a fully developed traffic control plan to provide temporary signage in other methods to protect the public and the traffic along the area. We will continue to evaluate as we go and as we progress with this project and provide the necessary precautionary methods that help alleviate some of those dangerous zones. There is no stop sign at this time per se, but it is something that we definitely can consider and apply in that area. Yeah, I'm going to add to that. This is Raul Lopez. I'm the engineering manager here over these type of projects. And we'll take a look. Absolutely. We will not. We'll look at the situation and anything unsafe, we will address it. I know, you know, temporary traffic control plans or in construction can cause confusion. So we will look at it once we implement it in the field. And anything unsafe, we'll go ahead and address it. And if we need to put a stop sign there, temporary stop sign, we definitely will. And appreciate that. Thank you for thinking about that. If I may, as we go through this project, who is the actual point of contact if we see issues that we can turn to to ask the question or bring up, you know, we can take pictures and things like that. But anyway, who's the point of contact that we can really bring these issues to during the project? Thank you. That would be me, sir. Alejandra Ayala with the city. I'm going to put back the slide with my information. And you can definitely give me a call or send me an email. And then myself, as well as Dennis Rogers, who is the city inspector, we will work to try to mitigate those issues. And as soon as I figure out how to put back that screen, I will definitely share it with you. And also realize that Heritage Trace Parkway, it is a partial closure, so it's not going to be entirely shut down. So that'll also help alleviate, we're hoping that, you know, the traffic kind of balances out during this phase of the construction between Solvia and Heritage Trace. And also just to give you a little bit more information as far as contacts. The number that you see below my name, this is Dennis Rogers. I'm the city inspector. My number that is below my name, that is 24-7. You can call that number and it will roll over to the after hours person on call if there's any emergencies. If you just have any just general questions, you can also use that number to gain information. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Okay, this is Rick. I was, I missed a little bit of the first of the meeting. Where are you going to, are you starting the utilities, water sewer, things like that that aren't there first? In what parts? We're going to start close to the south end of the project near 287 and Presidio, Sonoma Creek area. Okay. And there, right now the franchise utilities are moving, but that area is going to, it's going to probably come, it's going to come in with the storm grain first and then progress from there. Okay. But I know that you're going to head sewer up along south of Bond Ranch. I believe where those, where the warehouses are. And when is that supposed to take place? Alejandro, do you know? Yes. Hi, Rick. Those sewer lines are going to be installed in the second half of the year. That is our case two of the project. We have our storm utility contractor starting actually in the south like Alejandra just mentioned. And that'll take all the way to the summer. And then once they're done in the south side where the closure with Presidio Vista is done, then they'll jump and do that sanitary sewer line that runs like you said south of Bond Ranch all the way to, I don't remember the name of the road, but it's going to tie into the existing system. Okay. Okay. And you think that'll be in the latter half of this year? That's correct, sir. I can get better dates for you, but I don't have this case in front of me right now. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Does anybody else have any questions? George, again, I'm sorry. You are seeing the text that this will be available for review pretty soon on the city. Where can we go to get copies of the slides themselves to be able to review? These slides, I can, if you put your email in the chat box, and I'm going to write your name down right here, and I can send you the presentation if you'd like. Thank you so much. I'd be very appreciative. Thank you. Anybody else that needs the presentation, if you'll put your email address in the chat box, I'm making copies in the chat box so we have a list. I have a quick question. My name is Eric. I'm the project manager and safety manager there at the Southern Energy Homes Clayton Homes. We manufacture single double wide. We're the first business coming from 287 going towards Presidio. Harmon is our main entrance for receiving. We got 18 winners coming in through there, and I don't know how that's going to affect those ones. Y'all break ground and start working on that road. Well, I know McCarthy is going to work around making sure that you're able to get in and out of your facility there. Alejandro, do you have any plans on how that's going to work? Yes, Alejandro. Sorry, you mentioned you were in Caliber Coalition on the east side of Harmon Road. I didn't quite hear the business. Yes, he's at the mobile home manufacturing facility on the west. We're the first company east of Harmon right there when you get off of 287 going towards Presidio. Gotcha. Okay, so if I understand correctly, your business is on the west side of Harmon Road. We're on the west side. I'm sorry. Yeah, so we are not going to be in that area until next year, until 2022. At that point, we will coordinate with you, and our plan is to build all those driveways for all those businesses in the west side in halves or thirds and making sure that y'all have access to your business and depending on what kind of vehicle traffic you're going to be needing in there. The option that I was looking at, if you're having a team wheeler or something like that, we can potentially widen your entrance with a riding surface, let's say, flex-based temporarily to either the south or the north to get you access to your business. Okay. Once more, our driveway is done, then we can open back up. We're planning to get access to all those businesses in homes as well throughout the life cycle of the project in places. Okay, because I thought I understood that that's where you guys were going to start is 287 going towards Presidio. Yeah, that's correct. We're going to start on the east side of building that road. So, the west side of Harmon Road in the south is going to, the existing road is going to stay there, and I got touching that until the later phases of the project. I believe it's phase six and seven that touched the west side of this road in Harmon Road. Okay, I got you. So, you'll be looking at 2022. 2022, okay. And then also, you mentioned, I heard that you guys are not going to have like a median going through, but when I first, Ms. Ayala, I think you're probably the third project manager that we meet that's over this project. And I met, last year I met with Jim, I think it was Leon, I don't remember his last name, but he had mentioned that they were going to do a turning lane from 287 all the way to Presidio just because of the big businesses like us and our neighboring businesses that we get a lot of deliveries and 18 orders going through. And then from there, all the way up to Heritage or pass all the way to Golden Triangle was going to be median. Yeah, this is Dana Schumar, the design engineer. Yes, that's correct. There's going to be a five lane undivided section from the front of the road up to Presidio Vista. It will be a turning lane? Yes, a turning lane, yes. Okay. There won't be a raised median. Okay. And then Alex, there was a, are you doing any questions, Sarah? I'm sorry, Eric? Just one more. If I had a, right now our property and our company, we're still under a, we're not tapping to the city for a sewer. And I wanted to make sure I got 250 employees on that plant and several restrooms. So I wanted to make sure that that's still going to be a possibility or that's something that I need to address as soon as possible before I break down. So this is Raul Lopez and, yeah, I mean, the sewer line that we're going to install, you will be able to tap into it, but obviously that goes through a process and you'll probably be able to pay impact fees when you tap into it. That's, you know, that's the permanent process. You'll have to talk to the water farming when you want to tap. Okay. Yeah. Okay. This is, hey, this is JT. I just, I want to just jump in with you, Eric. That the sewer line we're talking about being installed, that's a totally different location than where you guys are. You guys, the last time knew you guys, you were still talking to the water department. So that's, that's who you need to go through, continue to go through to go through the water department that, that installing any sewer line for your business, that's not part of our Harman Road project. So keep working through this, the water department for that. Okay. I just didn't know if it would intervene or if it bumped, we're, you know, in the bumping heads or if it's going to be harder to do it once you guys start the development of the road. That was my concern. Yeah. I don't, I can't, I'm not sure about that. I can't, I can't answer if it'll be harder, but, but just keep, keep working with the water department. I can't remember who I, who I told you to talk to. Okay. And then Eric, you can reach out to Alex to make sure you don't go schedule as you continue along that process for when McCarthy is going to be in front of your business. So like you said, they said not till 2022. So you have some time. Okay, that's good. Yeah. We were, we went to different scenarios and trying to, we were, we were not in different projects within the, our property that we wanted to address before we continue that sewer test. So it's good that I have a little time. So that's good. Alex, there was a question from Tony and in the chat box. Did you want me to answer that? Did you say yes? You want me to answer it? Yes, please. Okay. The question was, will the traffic light at Quail Grove be a fully functional traffic light or just one for the fire station use? It will just be for the fire station use and actually be located north of Quail Grove. It's going to be just from the fire engines come out of the, out of their bay. It'll activate it. Do you have any further questions from that, Tony? Do I have room for one more question? Okay. I'm still, I'm still the Eric, the company right there that Harman wrote the mobile home developer. But there, since they built that, the businesses opened up right there right in front of us. It's just a, I mean, I've seen a lot of accidents happen right in front of our property and stuff. Is there anything that's going to be developed there as far as somewhere, either four-way or some kind of stop or do you think, why do you mean the road making it a four lane is going to help alleviate that problem? Yeah, right. I'm not sure the name of the road, but there's a 7-Eleven that you built late last year, right in front of us. So if you're coming off of 287, it would be the first right going towards the service station, 7-Eleven going towards the shopping centers. Oh, it's that access easement, that access driveway. Yes, ma'am. First, if you look at this map, it's that first driveway. Yes, I'm sorry. I'm on my phone. I wasn't able to get online. Okay. So that will just be a stop sign, right? Dana? Alex, I don't think we're seeing the same screen you are. So I don't know if you're going to share a different screen. You have your Google map up right now. I don't know if you're on your presentation, Alex, but if you had the plans up, I don't know what you were talking from. Oh, yeah, I switched to the Google map. There we go. There you go. Right here. Yeah. So your question was concerned with that's a right in right out there. Okay. I have a heavy traffic right now. The people are leaving the shopping centers coming towards Harmon. It was a huge congestion, especially for us that we have that entrance coming out of the shopping centers is head on to our 250 employees trying to get out at 3.30 in the afternoon. And there's just a congestion that causes there. Okay. I wasn't sure. Like I said, I'm not looking at the actual online. That would be Sonoma Creek Lane. Yep. Coming out onto Harmon. It's heavily congested. Yes. Very, very heavily. And I've seen a lot like that. Alex, it's actually Sonoma Creek. They're talking about and then the 711 is north of Sonoma Creek. Yeah. And then the 711 driveway is north of that. So I mean, we're going to have a wider section. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I think it's going to help you when Presidio Vista ultimate combination and Presidio Vista has a roundabout as well. It'll help kind of mitigate some of the fast through traffic of Harmon. But I don't know there's some lines going across the page, Alex. But yeah. So we'll look into that and see if there's anything else there and that we need to look at. Sorry, y'all. Sorry, y'all. All right. Thank you so much. So the concern air mixture is you're not muted. I think what Dana was trying to say that we can look at that at your concerns there at that in the intersection. See if we can do something there. I had a question. My name is Andrew Sisk. I work at Bluebell Creameries. Go ahead. So we're leaving for the day, usually in the afternoons. The traffic is usually accelerating pretty quickly coming from Heritage Trace on Harmon going south bound. And so I know at the extra length that'll help. But are y'all going to be able to leave like a little bit of a shoulder entrance from our business to get on the roads? Or is there a look at maybe reducing the speed? I believe coming out of the creamery, you'll just get into your your typical 11 foot wide lane. As far as the speed, we haven't discussed about reducing the speed on this project. Okay. Thank you. Does anybody else have any more questions? And how do we find... Yes, this is Rick. How do we get the copy of this plan? We can just print this off the city or what? If you put your email in the chat box, we can email it to you. Okay. Thank you. I'm going to see if our communications director can maybe upload it to the project website as well. So in one of your images that you showed in the presentation, it showed it around about at the Sonoma Creek lane. Is that an old proposal? No, Sonoma has never had a roundabout there. I think it was just a red dot showing where the location of the intersections are located. It was on the overall map. Yeah, it was a red dot. It looks like a roundabout was proposed there from that. Yeah, it's not. It's just a typical intersection. Thanks. There's one question in the chat, Alex. Will you be able to turn left onto Quail Road from Harlem going north? I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? Will you be able to turn left onto Quail Road from Harlem Road going north? Goodness. Bear with me. I think Quail Road is from one side of the, or north of the fire station. I'm correct. Yeah, this is JT. The short answer there is no. You will not be able to turn left on Quail Grove from Harmon Road going north found. There will be a median installed. So everything north of Presidio will have a median installed. Excuse me. Does that mean that there's no way to turn into the Quail Grove neighborhood from Harmon if you're heading north? No, as you go further north, just past the urban air. There's the next street. I believe it's Covey Drive. You can make left from there. Okay. When you said everything north of Presidio, I guess it was going to be a median. I was just confused with that. Okay. Sorry. So is there a reason why there's not a median onto Quail Grove? Because a lot of people come in and out of that road. Yeah, there's a reason. Yeah, there's a reason. The city has requirements for how close a median opening can be to a roundabout. And Quail Grove Drive is too close to the Presidio Vista roundabout to allow for a median opening is for safety reasons. We wouldn't want people trying to make left turns across Harmon Road as the southbound Harmon traffic was coming up on a roundabout. So the city has an access management manual that gives the minimum distances. And just the short answer is Quail Grove is just too close to Presidio Vista the roundabout to get a median opening. Okay. I've got a question. My name is Ray. On the plot of land that's going to be south of the new firehouse right next to that traffic circle. Is that going to be turning into anything or is that going to be for sewage and water drain off? Anything coming in that particular plot of land? Because there is a sign where it says it's for sale. But I believe that's a major runoff. I'm afraid that if they build on there it may cause a lot of problems in the future. I'm sorry. What are we talking about? Is it the one directly west from the roundabout of Presidio Vista? Right here. Yes. Right here. Right next to Quail Grove. The owner of this kit with us a few years ago and there were plans to develop that lot but definitely that didn't pan through. So that's a privately owned lot and we don't know what they're going to do with it. So for now it's a detention pond. And they will have to mitigate their runoff as well. They have plans to develop it and do away with the detention but the development didn't pan out. So I appreciate the answer. I did join the meeting a little bit late. If you can just recap the timeline for this? Absolutely. McCarthy plans to start construction next on the 22nd which I believe is next week to the dates. So this is the notice to proceed this March 22nd of 2021 with a substantial completion of March 22nd 2023. And this is the approximate dates of the durations of the various faces of construction. I appreciate it. I did put my email in the chat so I hope I get the PDF sent over. Okay. So does anyone else have any further questions? Yes this is Tim and I had a question in regards to are they going to be coordinating to make sure that there's no other constructions going on to make it more bottlenecked? And one of the particular roads I was thinking of was Spanish Needle exiting from Harmon Ranch and that other subdivision by the school because if they have any construction with that apartment being built and it just causes more bottlenecks congruently are they making sure that there's no double constructions that's going on during these phases? Unfortunately we cannot control the private development as far as when they wish to construct their facility but I can tell you on this road we will not have more than one intersection closed at a time. So that's why we have eight phases on this two-year duration project is to make sure that we try not to bottleneck people or inconvenience them any more than they already are today. And I'm gonna add to that Alex we have two people that permit traffic control plans for the entire city it used to be one now he's got some help and those two people are watching what construction is taking place before the issue another permit to close the lane close the road so they're very vigilant of that so rest assured that we want to allow multi-lane closures by different construction that will cause more congestion. Okay thank you. Sure I've got a simple question is the final road going to be blacktop or is it going to be concrete? It's going to be concrete. And then the the median that you were talking about going down the road is that going to be like a grass median or just like a curb with no grass or how big is that going to be? It's going to have grass. It's going to look very similar to the one that's on a golden triangle. Okay well there be sidewalks along Harman. Yes ma'am on both sides we plan to construct a 10-foot wide shared use paths. Okay thank you. Will there be any utility outages throughout the project? We do plan a minor water shutdown as we get closer to the phase five construction over at Bond's Ranch which will occur in the winter when demand is low but other than that that is the only shutdown that we anticipate. And if it does impact residents you will be notified. Okay question do you know what the area where that water is going to be affecting you know who's the outage and such is that going to be residential or what because you got to remember you're going to be a year out of what we've just went through with losing water. So people are going to be very concerned about that. Yeah we understand we plan to the only time that waterline would be shut down and correct me if I'm wrong Alejandro Vela is when we open up the shutdown the old line and open up the new line. So the shutdown shouldn't be that long right Alex? Yes so the plan is for for that waterline coming off of the the water tower north of Golden Triangle is going to happen the low demand season like Alejandro said between December 1st, March 1st. It's going to be we have a 48 hour a lot of time that we can get these connections these are big water pipes they we're talking 36 inch Dr. Lyron it takes a while in order to get the work done correctly and us not to have to shut down the the line potentially afterwards. So we'll we'll potentially in the 48 hours completely just because we want to get it done right once and not have to shut the service again and that's that's the best answer I can give you. We'll provide plenty of notice we'll work with the city of Fort Worth and the water department to let everybody know so that is no surprise to anyone and that that's that's a plan thus far and that'll happen this year between December and March of next year. Okay now will there be plans in place that if we run into the same type of weather we had before that that's going to be put on hold the very cold weather and stuff like that. Like I said the only problem and I appreciate what you're saying and I know it's one of those things you can't control this point in time but communication is going to be extremely important because again people went through almost 11 days without water in the Harmon Ranch area this this portion of the city and they're going to hear water being turned off that's going to be a scare so there's going to be a lot of concerns so my point is that not trying to stop anything you can't stop anything but just the communication let people know who's going to be affected the how long and things like that we understand that you're talking 48 hours you want to make things work things do happen got it but I think my question again is just how how soon are we going to know and anytime the future be great I mean tell them in the in the summertime that this is what's going to happen that'd be great they'll know they'll be prepared again it's just we're going to be a year away from what we just went through and they're going to be very concerned so the more information we get the more details of what area is going to be affected things like that would be most helpful okay yes we appreciate the feedback and the city has had this program for you know it's been years without being with the city where we notify all the affected customers even if it's for shutting down a 1.8 inch water line this is a large water main so we will notify we will we will send notifications at least two weeks in events and there will you know be notifications um electronic notifications via social media so that everybody's notified and this this shutdown needs to happen between December or March precisely because that's the low demand you know a window or water so it cannot happen in the summer and to add to the answer we are constantly looking at at the weather should anything close to what happened a couple weeks ago be the case in the in the timeline of the work thinking about performing this work we will not we will not do the work we will wait or we will try to accelerate a little bit but we're trying to mitigate any weather impacts that like that and this is my going to just a hopefully simple question right now when you're heading north and turning onto kovie there's a hill that creates a blind spot and cars come over that hill really fast and it's hard to tell when you're actually safe to turn onto kovie heading north is there any class level that out or you know make it safe any other way yeah because that's going to be the main entrance coming in and out of that community now since you can't turn left go on north alexa do you want me to go grow yes please okay um yeah i know we definitely are fixing that with this project the um that that hill or the dip that will be um leveled out for sure okay good deal how do you plan on uh controlling the dust with the construction do you have mitigation planning process we will have a water truck that is going to be servicing our our project and in times when it's too dry and we see that there's there's a lot of dust going on we'll be watering down the the soil at the site and as far as the roadway in case that there is some roadway we'll have we have sweepers in place and we will try to maintain everything as as clean as possible and maintain the lot the dust that uh as low as possible as well the city will also have an on-site inspector so he'll be watching out for those kinds of things as well good question this is the best way to be able to read some of his answers i'm trying to uh get to the city and it i guess biggest thing is since it's affecting the benesas that down down harman road um if there's if there's a certain way that we can get a whole year instead of trying to go through the whole city because i've been trying to uh call sometimes and it is i mean press this press that you know press one press two and it's we're running a business and we're a production business ourselves and we need immediate attention what is the best way to read some that that would be me alex aiella um and my number is 817 3928883 so you can call me and i'm assuming you're you're asking as as it relates to the construction of the problem that that is correct okay yeah that would be alex there's two alexes on this project there's an alejandra and an alejandro so it's easier tell me a question and i know this probably may not be the uh uh platform to be talking about this but is there a reason why there is not a north bound ramp from 287 to 35 because i think half of the problem with bonds rance and harman road being so congested is because there is not a northbound ramp um because the suggestion is to go up to 287 south to basswood and make a u-turn onto 35 which i don't think hardly anybody does um so are there any plans of making a northbound ramp from 287 to 35 i would have to reach out to our friends at the texas department of transportation to to uh answer that question and and just fyi i live in this area i live north just just west of harman road further down 287 so i know exactly what you're talking about and so i we'd have to ask tex dot to see if they plan to ever add that ramp i sure would like it right because i mean i know when they redid that whole area um the reason why or at least this is you know the rumor that i heard was the reason why they didn't put a northbound ramp is because nobody was you utilizing or there wasn't as many youth to go um that everybody wasn't you know going through doing the u-turn at basswood well if anybody lives in this area knows nobody uses you know route so it made no sense um that it wasn't included in that you know the you do so if you know tex dot does do another survey it it is very essential i think that the city of fort worth make sure that they view bonds ranch and harman road as an alternative route that people are utilizing i think that is very essential i will definitely let i'll definitely plead your case because i as a commuter would love that as well so i'll be sure i'm not sure if you're aware of a theories an upcoming project for improvement along 287 starting at intersect uh intersect 35 all the way through points from once run throat i believe it is um text that is going to be improving the entire corridor and i believe instruction is scheduled to start uh i'm going to look at an email so bear with me so text is planning on on redoing the the harman road bridge they're also adding another bridge to connect a north terran parkway to those frontage roads so they're building what they call a box intersection there so you'll have an independent bridge to go over the freeway to get to north terran and one to go over the freeway to get to harman so right now text doc does have plans to start constructing that in the near future yeah construction is set to begin scheduled to begin in 2022 doesn't say whether early or late but i would assume it's late 2022 thank you it where can we get information on that project it yeah yeah so let me let me share a little bit about that um there's it's really kind of like two projects just just want to be sure everybody's clear as text dot has two projects one as they're looking at the whole corridor of 287 from i-35 up to avondale haslett and and that's one big project and then they've for for kind of for us working with the city they've advanced this this little smaller project that's right at harman road and north terran parkway that they're going to work on and that's what rule mentioned that they're planning to start construction at least right now they've got it scheduled to what they call let in july of 2022 that means they'll start construction later than that like at the end of 2022 and just to be clear that little project that would start in july 2022 it would not it would not extend all the way to the 287 35 interchange all right so i just want to be sure just just be clear so that early project the text dots there you go danis put the put the link on there so there's some information on text dot's website danis put a link on there where you can you know you can go find it and i am going to put i'll put in the chat box the name of the text dot project manager so if you really want to reach out to someone and speak to him about this early project that's the you know that's the one that at harman road in north terran parkway the box interchange that alex called it um the guy's name is rom it's it's like like a dodge ram pickup but it's spelled rom r a m and then his last name is doc call dha k a l i'm going to put his name in the chat in his phone number and he's the text dot project manager for that project so he can give you better information than we can he knows he's more up to date on the schedule and and the details of it thank you welcome anybody else going once one more last question uh this project on harman is it going to be monday through friday monday through saturday number two hey ray we're planning on working monday through friday uh from certain a m to five p m our normal hours of operation there will be differences where we will need to work at night to do some uh some utility work and potentially the weekends if we're getting rained out uh in during the week weekdays in order to catch up with the schedule and that'll help us also in meeting our goals and deadlines that we have in this presentation for all the closures in the in the area so if you're unable to see the the chat box um the text dot contact is ram uh doc call and his number is 817 370 3519 well thank you tony i appreciate that i had a team of people help me give you a survey dallas thank you so with that i'm going to conclude um our presentation for for this project um we just ask for for for your patience like i tell people sometimes things have to get a little worse for them to get better and when it's all said and done um we'll have a a road that we're able to travel on safely and carry enough cars um like i said i live nearby and i i do venture on to on to this part of harman and i and i i feel your pain so just um you know have a little patience with us and uh get a hold of us if you see any concerns or have any questions and we'll be gladly to be able to answer any give you any information that we have at the time um we trust mccarthy is going to do a a good job on this roadway they've they've done good work for us in the past and other projects they they've had throughout the city and so we're we're hoping for for good things to to come in the future and and with that i'm going to end our presentation and wish you all the best and have a blessed evening thank you all thank you thank you thank you