 Welcome everyone to Progressive Discussions and it happens to be Monday, oh yeah, it's a very human drizzly Monday here in New Jersey, it's June 17, 2019 and I am here with my co-host, the one and only Gary W. Owens, how are you doing today, sir? I'm pretty good, you? Good. Just having some vapes. That's cool, you know, I was gonna get one of the imported German wheat beers but I decided to just grab some filtered zero filtration system, by the way, better than Brita, zero water with Concorde grape juice unsweetened in the tiki glass, so next time I'll grab an imported beer because then we're gonna start doing reviews and it'll get mixed in with the main, you know, backbone of the show, you know? Right, and I've just got water. Yeah, yeah, because I don't want to mix fermented beverage reviews with politics and things like that. Now, I want to start off by saying I'm pretty sick and tired of listening to the American media constantly support the corporatist, moderate centrist, touchy feely Joe Biden and of course they say nice things about Elizabeth Warren because it's politically correct to do so because she's a female and Kamala Harris once in a while and nothing or negativity about Bernie Sanders who happens to be the most progressive of all the thousand and one dummy crats or demon crats that are running for 2020, but the media doesn't help. I'm gonna say it publicly and live, yes, I believe the media is controlled by the corporate oligarch, the puppet masters pulling the strings and they, the media does not want democratic socialism or just plain old socialism and the corporations certainly don't want it because they're stingy and greedy and do not want to pay any taxes at all except for stealing natural resources worldwide with the military industrial complex. They don't want Bernie Sanders, they don't want anything free for the lower 98% of the poor. They want to privatize everything because they're greedy motherfuckers now exactly. And the media, even CNN, everything's about Biden, Biden, Biden, hey, touchy feely Biden. Everything's about Biden and they actually seem to be discouraging people away from Bernie Sanders who's really the only, well, he's not the lesser of the two evils, he's the much lesser of the two evils, but he has human frailties like during 2016, he capitulated after the DNC contvention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he capitulated, he could have ran as an independent, he had legions of people showing up at his rallies, much more than Trump and Hillary Clinton put together, but he capitulated because he was so afraid of Trump getting elected, well, guess what, the Trump pansy, Trump and Stein got elected anyway. So this is the story with our media, oligarch control and the stupid, idiot, lemming Americans out there, the mainstream population, the American voters, the suck up sycophants of the corporate oligarch, or should I say, the naive, easily deceived lemmings of the US media, they do not want to give up capitalism, they want to obsessively hang on to any shreds of capitalism that are left, they don't want to give it up, they feel capitalism is like God's system or it's the best, it's best for them because the idiots still believe in trickle down economics when it was proven by the CEO of Papa John's pizza who claimed I am not obligated to share my company's prosperity with my employees, therefore trickle down can work if it's allowed, but it's not allowed, so these idiots out there that vote, they don't want to give up on capitalism, they don't want to believe capitalism is the devil's economics for those that are religious, yeah, yeah, I would say it's pretty wicked, it's rigged, it's always been rigged, and hey, even your wonderful founding fathers were too lazy to get their cracker asses out on the field like the Amish and run their own plantations, even they had slaves, and you know, of course, there was an equality across the board even back then, so the system sucks, the system's rigged, the industrial revolution is the most evil, thanks to Manchester, England, thank you United Kingdom for the birth of that, and then you had, of course, the first oligarchy with JP Morgan and Carnegie and Cornelius Vanderbilt and the rest of the scumbags, so that's it, that's my monologue about how the media keeps pushing that sleepy, well, I call them touchy feeling Joe Biden, who's feeling out there for whatever bribe might come his way from the donors, he keeps flip-flopping on the issues, yes, Beto, whatever the fuck his name is, Beto, Beto, yeah, Beto or Rourke is right, he does flip-flop on the issues, Joe Biden, but the media wants them, the American people are brainwashed with this annoying word, you know, moderate centrist, we have to go down, you know, the political experts say, oh, America is really a centrist country, people want, you know, to compromise, they want a little of both, well, fuck them, because it's not going to do them a damn bit of good, most or all of their money is still going to go towards living expenses, the cost of living will always be higher than the average wage, okay, by time all the states raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, the cost of living is going to be still much higher than the $15 an hour, because why, because the right wing wants to gradually increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour over the course of years, even our former Wall Street scumbag governor, Phil Murphy, okay, who's a Democrat, demon crack, even he wants to gradually raise the minimum wage over the course of years, well, of course, you know, people on Twitter, everybody unanimously agrees that if you gradually raise it to $15, the racketeering cost of living, and let's just say, you know, everything we pay for as part of the cost of living is privatized, utilities, power company, cable TV, insurance, car insurance, so on and so forth, home insurance, it's all privatized. So I say the racketeering cost of living will shoot way above $15 an hour. And yes, I did have an ample supply of Trader Joe's extra dark coffee today, black, so you can tell. That's it. My long is done. Here's your buddy. Don't believe anything you hear about me. It's all fake news. Yes, it is. I'm wonderful. I'm great. Europeans love me. The world loves me. America loves me. Oh, not me. Here. Oh, I'm so excited. My skull's ready to explode. All right. All right. There's one thing about old Joe Biden. I'm surprised the media is not bringing up. And I remember this whenever there was the heat of the gun control issues of 2012 and 2013. Shotgun Joe shotgun Emporium. You can go shotgun Joe shotgun Emporium. He's going to say one type of shotgun, double barrels over and under or side by side. You want to fire off two 12 gauge blasts and look like an idiot because now you just have an empty shotgun with no shells that can be used as a weapon. But hell, you can now use it as a club. I'm surprised they're not bringing that up because that's what he was saying. You don't need an AR 15 for women. Well, I hate to burst your bubble, Joe. Not a lot of women out there can handle a 12 gauge shotgun regardless of whether it's a double barrel, single barrel, pump action, semi auto, full auto. Only a burly, athletic, you know, butch woman could do it but the average woman can't. You're right. I mean, you go online and see women shooting shotguns and it either falls or either flies out of their hand after they shoot it because they don't know how to hold onto it correctly or it's just too much recoil from so when they shoot it does this watch they get up. Where'd my shotgun go? Or they're getting ready to shoot it. Bam. They fall flat on their ass. Well, I have seen video clips of a younger Senator Joe Biden in action and he's no progressive. I'll tell the American public right now. He is no progressive. He's not only a centrist. He is more to the right of a Democrat. And I heard, I watched a younger Elizabeth Warren debate him and Elizabeth Warren has stuck to her guns in a progressive way throughout her career, not much as Bernie Sanders, but Joe Biden is definitely not even a centrist. So I'll, I'm telling you right now, you people out there that believe the media and support Joe Biden and keep him on top of the polls, you're fucking idiots. You're brain cell deficient. And that's it about the campaign. Right. And I didn't want to get back to about the AR-15 because the AR-15 is like one of the best home defense weapons you could think of because it's very easy to reload. You know, you just got a couple of magazines. You just press a button, magazine drops out, drop a new magazine in and very low recoil. I mean, anyone can shoot an AR-15, I mean, and then you go online and see women compare while shooting a shotgun compared to AR-15. For a woman, AR-15 is great, but it is very, very loud when that bullet leaves that barrel. It's traveling over 3000 feet per second. Whenever I took my friend to shoot guns for the first time we shot my AR-15. I ended up selling it later, but we shot the AR-15. The one thing he noted about it was it was fucking loud, but it was one of the easiest guns he had ever shot. He loved shooting it. So if a gun like that can appeal to all different types of shooters, newbies all the way up to experts, you know, despite what the media wants to say about it, it is a gun that millions of Americans own and millions of Americans responsibly use every day with their standard capacity magazine. I'm sorry, 30 rounds is not high capacity. 30 rounds is a standard capacity magazine for that weapon. You want to talk high cap, 45 rounds, 75 round drum, 100 round drum, that's high capacity. So Americans cannot, except for the black market, Americans cannot legally purchase the real hardcore military version of the AR-15. Is that correct? All right. So what would be considered the military grade version of an AR-15 where it's got, you can have some of the middle spec features of the weapon, but the one thing that you actually cannot have is either select fire or fully automatic. You can have a grip, you can have a suppressor, you can have different sights, but burst fire and fall auto is virtually illegal in the United States because this is one thing I want to throw out to the Republicans out there who claim that, you know, Reagan was this true conservative who really didn't pass these liberal laws when in reality, he did. He got past the, I think it was the, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's so many different firearm regulations, but I think it was the Brady Act, which basically allowed for full auto weaponry to be banned after May, I think it was like May 19th, 1986. If it was manufactured before that date, then you could have a full auto weapon. Anything after that date is illegal, no matter what kind of process you try to go through. So a modern AR-15 cannot be legally converted to fully automatic weaponry. And if you try and through the ATF and go through all the paperwork, red tape, what have you, it just, it's not going to happen. But like I said, all the other military features like threaded barrels, suppressors, flash hiders, different scopes, stocks, things like that. I mean, those are completely fine. Okay. Well, you people out there got an education in firearm because Gary W. Owens, in my opinion, is an expert on firearms. You know, my friend, one of my best friends, Jamila Gorey, a former county cop, and you, both of you has had told me that the old Samuel Cope 45 revolvers are not necessarily that obsolete. I'm talking about the ones that, you know, where you don't have to kick back the hammer, you know, that flop, you know, it goes, come outside ways. And, you know, yeah, the later Samuel Cope's, you know. Right. You can still buy a 45 Colt weapon, but the first thing that comes to mind are the Taurus Judge and the Taurus Governor. I believe the Taurus Judge shoots 45 Colt and it can also shoot a 410 handgun. The Taurus Governor can shoot 45 Colt, 410 handgun, and it can also shoot 45 ACP with a moon clip. A moon clip is where you have, you know how you've got your six shots in the cylinder. A moon clip holds three, and then three, you just pop it in the cylinder, there you go. Moon clip. Yeah. Well, in the words of my uncle Phil, you want a lot of punch to your firearm because you do not want your intruder or perpetrator to really survive, because if he comes out of prison, he'll come after you. You want to save the taxpayer's money and you want to put the, how can I put it? You know, an associate path or a wicked person, their personality is usually set. They claim after age five, you know, a psychologist, psychiatrist, you know, so there's no, you cannot rehabilitate everyone or that cannot be rehabilitated. And it's either him or you, and you know what, you better off just taking him out. So 45 or the the 357 or 44 magnum, I mean, yeah, or just a good shotgun with a slug. Well, a good shotgun slug would be great, but for like a home defense situation, you'd want low velocity buck shot. And you also would want a choke, which actually won't spread the shot out as much, but constrict it more because you can make the spread of a shotgun either spread out more or you can constrict it. You have to put in a choke in the barrel. But if you get a good choke, low velocity buck shot, anybody that comes through that door, they're done. And the reason why I say you want low velocity is say for example, maybe a few shots of the shots don't necessarily hit the target, they may hit a wall or something. You wouldn't have to worry about it, you know, going through a wall or hurting a family member or a guest in your house, what have you. So that'll be more of an ideal or an AR-15 or any kind of handgun really. Yeah, like what you're saying is you want the shots to come out like, like in a tunnel directly at the target, instead of some of the shots getting wasted, spreading, you want to come boom, boom, right in this right here, boom, like that. But you also have to be very careful. A shotgun is pretty loud and it has a very thunderous boom to it whenever it goes off. So it will reverberate inside of the house. So an AR-15 will blow out your eardrums because it's just a high pitch bark, but a shotgun also blow yours up because it's got such a low bassy boom to it and it will reverberate bad. So if a person hears sounds of their front door being, you know, picked a lock or broken into it's a good idea to put high quality, high decibel earplugs before you grab your fire rock. Well, if you'll intend on maybe firing a few shots, if that, you wouldn't necessarily need earplugs, but if you have multiple invaders and it turns into a gunfighting your house, which could be possible, aside with the media wants to think, the media doesn't want to think, oh, there could be multiple home invaders who have various kinds of firearms, one of them has a revolver, one of them's got a saw-off shotgun shoved down in his pants somewhere. Yeah. And well, and the good thing about, if you're a homeowner, the good thing about a dog is that they will let you know if someone's on the property before they ever break in. So it could be a deterrent. Of course, the perpetrators will shoot the dog, you know, if they broke in, but, you know, it's like an alarm system. It doesn't have to be a Rottweiler or a German Shepherd, even though Rottweiler, the concept of him crunching down on the perpetrator and you dialing 911 extremely slowly. Hey, baby, yeah, chewing that leg a little long. Chewing that leg, yeah. Nine. Oh, I forgot the second digit. Oh, it must be one. And the Rottweiler, it's like really sinking in. Yeah, I saw a Rottweiler at my work because someone had one as a service animal. This one was one of the friendliest dogs I'd ever met. It was a big baby, but good Lord, those things are big. No, I've met very friendly Rottweilers and even more so, a bull mastiff, which is recorded to having the strongest bite of all dog breeds, is a sweetheart. They're great with kids and families. They don't need a lot of room because they like to lie around a lot. Sometimes drool, you know, but yeah, but they lie around a lot, you know, because mastiffs are not like Jack Russell Terriers. They're not like hyper. Well, I'm glad we're talking about guns because this is going to be a very big issue for the 2020 election because remember when Trump was saying no new gun legislation, any new gun legislation is going to be brought to my desk. I will not sign it. Well, guess what, Trump, you're a fucking liar because correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you make bump stocks illegal? You bypass Congress. You did this by executive order and instructed the ATF to redefine a machine gun to get your bump stock banned when reality all a bump stock does is just, you know, make a semi-automatic weapon act like a full auto weapon because what it does is when you put a bump stock on a weapon, you put your finger inside the trigger and what it does is instead of firing full auto, it just does this, watch, you pull the trigger, the recoil makes it come back and it's basically like, so it's making a semi-auto act like a full auto when reality, the function of the gun has not changed. And then he tried to redefine why he basically did redefine a machine gun to where, you know, where a bump stock changed the functionality of a weapon to make it fully automatic. But what makes this so dangerous is if a device can change the functionality of a firearm, especially a semi-auto, making it a full auto, then what's next going to be on down the pipeline, defining how many rounds per minute a semi-auto weapon can fire? And there is no definite determination as to how many rounds per minute a semi-auto firearm can fire. It's all determinant. It can be one round per minute depending upon whether you're a sharp shooter or hundreds of rounds per minute if you are an infantryman or infantry woman who is trigger happy. So that's what also makes this so dangerous. It is a way to pretty much ban any semi-auto and then eventually you get all firearms back because that's what people want to think is that they're putting so much massive gun control in your face. They're confiscated all in one swing. No, they're not going to. They're just going to slowly chip away at until it's all gone. And any pro-gun, any person who's pro-gun and even decent at being pro-gun is going to tear Trump a new one saying, what about this? You said no new gun legislation. Well, what did you do here with this bump stock ban? Well, in the words of my wonderful attorney, Rudy Giuliani, truth is not necessarily truth. No, no, it's not. I forgot. Seven Lucky Bells for the show. Yes, it is going to be an issue for 2020 as well as others. Now Trump wants to put the children from South to the border in a, I think, Oklahoma where they sent the internment camps for the Japanese during World War II. He wants to send them there now. Well, actually, that's where they sent Native Americans as many of them died marching to the reservation. Yeah, he wants to put those poor children in the internment camps that were used for the Japanese. And I think it's in Oklahoma. That's the latest Trumpanzee, Trump and Stein news that I've heard. People have his number. The media, the American public, he's totally delusional. If he thinks that everybody loves him and he's number one and he's done, he inherited whatever positive things that Obama did. Of course, Obama had to work his ass off trying to fix G.W. Bush's war on a credit card mess, even though he got nothing but opposition for eight years. Now, do you think maybe all of the Democrats after Jimmy Carter bashed Jimmy Carter so much because Carter was not a centrist Democrat or he was not a corporatist. He was perhaps more liberal than, let's say, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama? Do you think that's why he sort of got blackwalled? Historically, as far as everybody used to call him a terrible, ineffective president, because now he seems very progressive and very liberal with his Habitat for Humanity program. And every time he's interviewed, he sounds extremely progressive. So maybe he was bashed because he was too progressive for the Democratic Party, which should never be called progressive. I don't necessarily think that that's the case. I mean, one of Jimmy Carter's biggest flaws was he was an extreme micro manager. So he always liked to have his finger in everything. He always liked to have his say in everything, no matter what it was. That was his biggest flaw being such a big micro manager. He couldn't delegate, in other words. Well, he could delegate, but not when it came to domestic affairs. Now, international affairs, he was a bit more humanitarian. I mean, he worked his ass off to in the Iranian hostage crisis in the late 70s. Well, he was a naval submarine captain. So maybe that's where he got his micro management obsession from. But, you know, I just, I can see that the American media wants to continue maintaining the corporatist two party system. And they want to allow the Democrats to lie by calling themselves progressives, which they're not. And they want that they certainly not want to give up on pure capitalism. Because it's the oligarch opposed the puppet strings of the media, right? And possibly some were working during election time. So, yeah, my advice to the Sanders people is they should not expect the DNC with that corporate hoard that runs it to endorse Bernie Sanders this time. Also, don't expect miracles. Don't expect him to win the nomination. Right. And also, if he gets to the point where his rallies are that massive, you know, at the end, I thought it was him, I would just run as an independent Democratic socialist. Now, when he's interviewed now, this time around, he says he's claiming to represent Democratic Socialists. He's saying the word. I said, I hate that word. Well, you know why they say it? To kiss, to kiss ass and suck up with the people, the networks that are interviewing them. Socialism is inherently democratic. So, democratic socialism is just, it's a meaningless word. Right. Well, now, Democratic, Democratic means you're not giving up completely on capitalism. Well, if you're going to do that, make sure the corporations are paying most of the taxes like in Northern Europe. Make sure they're paying their fair share. Yeah, it worked for what little time it worked. Now, all those concessions that the bourgeoisie gave for appeasement for the hybrid system, they want it all back and they're doing everything in their power to get it back. That's why you have to have revolution, not reform. And that's what these people don't get is you can't just appease the beast and expect it to just be completely appeased with whatever it is you want to throw at it. No, it makes the rules and if it does not want to abide by the rules that it made, who's there to really fucking stop it? Well, I'm very happy that Sanders mentions FDR's New Deal and the second bill of rights because FDR knew that you had to defame the demonic corporate entities. You know, you can't trust these people, these idiots out there that are anti big government and pro corporate, they honestly feel they can trust the corporate CEO over big government. I don't trust any corporate CEO. Nothing is going to trickle down. I got news for them. It's like a wine glass at the top that as soon as the red wine reaches the very top, they replace it with a larger wine goblet or wine glass and then another one and then a larger one and then it gets bigger and bigger. Nothing's going to trickle down. You're lucky if it drips down or you're lucky if vapors come down. So this whole obsession with hanging onto capitalism, that's why you have the hybrid. It's like there's this centrist moderate Democrat who is a corporate whore just the same. Then you have democratic socialism, which is probably between pure socialism and being a centrist Democrat. So here's pure socialism. Here's the democratic socialism and then here's the centrist corporate whore demon crap. So the compromise of democratic socialism seems to be in between those two. Like you said, the hybrid to appease the evil beast and the evil beast is like negotiating with hardened criminals or terrorists. You can't negotiate with them. Exactly. I mean that's what people just do not get is history does not side with the idea of you could legislate socialism in and think that just because you went to the legislative process that somehow the bourgeoisie and capitalism are going to play by the rules of your new legislative government. I mean that's kind of what's happened with Venezuela is yeah they had a revolution but it was pretty much what I call the reform revolution where it was just basically done through the legislative branch but they've not had full on revolution and not full on socialism and now they're having to pay the price for not fully implementing socialism and I get all this all the time. Look at that as well. This is the failure of socialism. This shows you just how violent evil corrupt and despotic socialism is. Oh yeah. Well have you forgotten this little thing called United States foreign intervention in countries? I guarantee you the United States interferes in every country throughout the world because they like to put their fingers in everybody else's pie but their own. Absolutely. And these flag waving right wing sycophant lemming fools also say that universal single payer healthcare doesn't work and it's horrible in Canada and Europe and it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit and the same person the same person that the same people that claim this they're usually the so-called brown nosing company man that is on salary and is willing to work all day and all night for the man and work for free over 40 hours thinking that oh wow I have a I have a job I have a great job title I'm an executive. Oh really divide how many hours you give for free divide it weekly and and tell me what your hourly rate is you know simple math. Right. It's bullshit you know it works they're happy I don't see Scandinavians anxious to move to the United States I haven't seen a single Scandinavian immigrant I mean we have lots of Polish we have Russians coming over here Philippine of course third world country various Asians but I haven't seen any Scandinavians or Canadians anxious to relocate to the United States exactly I mean we've had this discussion before yeah universal healthcare is going to be better than what we've got because it's going to bring costs down because we eliminate competition and trade over a basic human necessity of course it's going to bring costs down and then cost can be determined by you know labor the cost to make medicine what have you that's a much fair price as compared to the for-profit system that we have yeah well absolutely I mean I mean Bernie Sanders has shown the details of how it's going to amount to huge savings he's done it many times it works socialism works for the lower 98 percent period okay and and and the right-wing capitalism is ideal for the greedy monetary orders of the top two percent and these are the same people that I know of that drive very expensive cars in my region that will not say thank you if you hold the door open for them because it reflects their personality and this is the same BMW or Audi that tailgates you with their their halogen lights because they won't pass you on on on on the left lane oh no they want to bully you because this reflects their personality this reflects the kind of people they are and but you know what they'll never confront you to your face and talk shit because they'll get knocked out but they'll do it behind a keyboard with keyboard courage or behind a wheel on a highway yeah that that's basically right but um oh I forgot what I was gonna say oh where I work at I have actually met the CEO of the grocery chain that I work for um the corporate office is in Abingdon Virginia and he goes to the various stores throughout the entire company I mean he's hardly ever at the corporate office because the day that I was able to meet him is uh we are very big on bringing in local produce so we got in some strawberries from Scott's farm that's over in Unicoie County that's great what I mean it's it's great to support local farmers right uh Scott's farms is in Unicoie County if you look at uh northeast Tennessee all right the north eastern most county up here in this little corner right up here is Johnson County and then I'm in Sullivan County that's the county outside Johnson County then you've got Washington County below us and then you've got Carter County and then Unicoie County Unicoie County is this county right down here before it goes to northwest North Carolina and he was coming in to see the uh strawberries that have been brought in from Scott's farms to see because people have been complaining that um some of the batches that have been coming in were uh either overly ripe or they had molded so he's coming into all the area stores to check to see what was coming in yeah he's a very hands-on CEO he uh yeah yeah he's uh that's good he's not a paper pusher that sits in his office most of the time yeah that that that actually that is that is good that he's doing that uh I'm not saying like all CEOs are greedy uh parasitic assholes but a lot of them are um like for instance why does a major charity need a CEO making astronomical amounts of money it's it's a fun reason it's supposed to be consistent volunteer work right he mentioned that in the past uh and uh that's why I don't donate you know unless it's something a good charity like like one of the children's hospitals out there like St. Jude's and or the Shriners or something like that you know but uh you know other than that capitalism um it it it it it'll it'll never it'll never work for the lower 98 percent and right it has never has worked and uh the only way that the hybrid democratic socialism would work is if they stick to their guns and they really do make the rich pay their fair share in taxes and and fund uh subsidize programs for the poor even though the republicans don't want to do that but they don't realize who are their consumers you're running a corporation or you own a company or your CEO who and you happen to you happen to vote republican and you don't want to pay taxes at all who are your consumers how many refrigerators does the rich buy your consumers is the little guy the little guy the more money you put in in in the in the pockets in the wallets of the little guy or female purse the the more the economy will be stimulated exactly they will put back into the the economy you know that's another selling point for socialism yeah look at like Costco I hear Costco's uh CEO is very employee oriented and you know his benefits are decent and his his pay is decent and he wants people to who work for Costco to also shop at Costco and um you know it's uh maybe Trader Joe uh is like that the owner the owners of Trader Joe because many of their items even though they are they are organic uh health food type products happen to be low price they're reasonable right you know it's the mentality of just of not being greedy of not looking short term looking long term right not being short-sighted and I think the first book that was written about uh such a mindset to run a company I think was Sony who uh the CEO of Sony in the past uh got was sick and tired of hearing the term made in Japan being negative and he decided to totally turn everything around and and start producing the best quality products and uh not being you know a short sight right how much can I make or steal now not thinking long term not thinking about word-of-mouth advertisement from people getting great reviews so on and so forth not thinking long term now if you think long term your business your corporation is going to prosper but in order to have the full prosperity you have to have the trickle down economics but you're not going to have it if companies continue to outsource jobs out of the country um or if the CEO sucks up most of the money and he doesn't allow any trickling down at all like the Papa John pizza uh scumbag I mean I have nothing against you know companies having jobs outside of the United States but for every job they have outside of the United States they need to have a job here inside of the United States I mean I have nothing against you know people having jobs but they need to be fair when it comes to giving people jobs they need to have American workers that way Americans can support themselves but they also need to have jobs in other countries so those workers can support themselves and they need to be free from exploitation well I told this right wing individual who is not wealthy one of those flag waving right wing people that are not rich okay the one that's against universal health care and against against all social services right you can keep telling me just my wife's horror for me just hang on okay yeah I said why I says what if the poor person because the job market sucks and the economy sucks in reality what if the poor person cannot find a job and his answer was well tell him to go paint the house or something well what if you can't find a house to paint or what if you know you know give a man a fish he'll eat for the day teach him how to fish he'll eat for the lifetime well what if the river is polluted you know it's like they you know it's like they're trying to sweep the poor under the carpet because um if you and then I and then I mentioned I mentioned that uh corporations that insist on outsourcing and plus putting their um having offshore bank accounts and uh offshore mailboxes like in the Cayman Islands let's say uh and then the individual said um well do you know why they do that because it's the fault of the poor all the freebies that we we have to give to the poor well I got news for people like that social services as a whole make up a very tiny percent of that pie I think it's like two percent and the military industrial complex makes up like around almost two-thirds of the overall spending budget these are the facts but for some reason the right wing always wages war against the poor so hold on anyway another seven lucky bills for the show so anyway um yeah so the people that are middle class and carrying the tax burden continually continually blame the poor for their plight they'll never blame the man at the top they'll never blame the corporate CEO for the reason why the middle class are carrying the tax burden the middle class are carrying the tax burden not because of the poor they they they never think of why the republicans always wage war and blame the poor for everything they say oh that that's why the jobs are outsourced that's why there's offshore bank accounts and offshore mailboxes in the Cayman Islands because of all the freebies we give the poor and what I said before Gary was that social services that republicans want to eliminate only makes up like about two percent of the total budget the military industrial complex makes up almost two-thirds right but they're always blaming the poor for everything oh that's why the companies are forced to have everything offshore and I said well since they're not going to create American jobs I would tariff the hell out of their products coming off the cargo ships you know if everything they do is offshore because agreed uh we have no choice but to tariff them because how on earth uh is the growing poor population going to survive because the middle class will keep shrinking and become part of the poor the poor population and eventually you're going you're going to have a a nation without surplus cash to spend on your products you're going to be impoverished even though you blame everything on the poor because right-wing people always always demonize and blame the poor for everything oh it's the welfare it's the welfare have them go pay in a house we don't need social services yeah it's so easy to say that so that's what I what I meant by sweeping the poor under carpet you know um there has to be there has to be opportunities available for the lower 98 percent if there's no economy and job market that's flourishing there are no opportunities available therefore the economy there's there's less money being spent but they continue to blame everything on the poor oh all the freebies of all those people that don't have insurance that come to the emergency room well they shouldn't health care should not be privatized and a profit oriented industry it's supposed to be an industry of compassion with people that are sort of like public servants you want to be a doctor and you're greedy don't be a doctor be a lawyer father taking a jab at me now are we no but there there are some well hey some of those progressive activists did pass the bar exam too I was just picking a resin with you some of them are lawyers except except for Alexandria the succulent little Latina Cortez uh oh god do not get me started on Alexandria you ever see your boyfriend he's ginger he's got red hair like he's like Alfred E. Newman on a mad magazine what the hell is she doing with him but she can have James P. Madonna the hardest hitting well aside from you the hardest hitting progressive around Alexandria Ocasio Cortez she she wasn't she doesn't have a law degree even though she could really take classes and get one I think she should do that now that she's a congresswoman it would be good for her well I'm glad you brought that up because um there's one thing that socialism can actually do that would really benefit society is everyone has this concept of like you were talking about the welfare state oh it's the welfare it's the poor it's this society oh live it or not socialism yeah it kind of is like a welfare state but it's not a burdensome welfare state so like once you have your revolution and you overthrow capitalism and you install socialism one of the biggest ways that socialism helps bring people out of poverty is while though you still have the welfare programs they eventually will disappear once you know when you start going up jobs start going up health care becomes free education comes free access infrastructure gets better etc etc eventually you would have to have things like free clinics because you could just go to a doctor or hospital and just get the health you need for anybody and then you wouldn't have to have this thing called food stamps to ensure people have food because they'd have enough money from their free from exploitative jobs to afford food so seems like you'd think that something like that would make natural allies people who are against the quote unquote welfare state but oh no it doesn't you'd think it'd make a natural ally at least on the surface but you know what republicans really want and this is my take on it i don't have a concrete evidence but i have a strong hunch i think they want the middle class to shrink and become part of the america's poor so uh and and and possibly have the homeless population grow so they can arrest them and put them in privatized prisons and get free slave labor for the for the oligarch they want to enslave they want to make the poor so desperate okay and they even education they want to privatize they they don't want public school education they don't want anything public they just they want all tax money allocated for the military industrial complex they want only the rich kids to get a good education because only the rich kids would be able to go to private school they want to dumb down the regular joe six packs kids you know the little guys kids they want to dumb them down so they get poor desperate and they end up working for chicken feed wages or being slayed in a privatized prison that's what they want i don't give a shit deal if you people out there that are spying on us because i know i know that if they're spying if google spies on us and facebook messengers spies on us then chances are we're getting spied on every day hey oligarch i have an itch right in the center of my forehead that is severe there needs to be capitalism here right here dnc republican party itch itch oh yeah yeah i don't give a damn that's nothing with democrats yeah and liberals conservatives fascists anarchists anybody who's not really a socialist or communist yeah this one's for you yeah and and uh oh in europe and the corporates uh uh centrist uh ask a court uh uh ask kissing uh people on the on the take the democrats stop calling yourself progressives please because you're not progressives you're you know uh jesse ventura was right a politician does is not obligated to meet with lobbyists therefore not obligated to take anyone's bribes and um but he got corporate whores like uh ugly old turtle face mitch mcconnell oh god no turtle face internal match oh he is so we need to make an onion cry actually a turtle a turtle is a cute animal i but he does look like a very old tortoise from the galapagos islands with sagging skin and everything i have to be rena turtle is not a cute animal they are not cute animals to be around because they will go in their shells and they'll hiss at you how is that supposed to be cute and friendly well not yeah if an alligator snapper grabs a hole in your your forearm or your or your hand it's that's not cute at all but the thing is he is such an obvious corporate whore you know is blatantly obvious every and that he's a racist too he wants to make obama one-term president that's his objective hey what about getting work done for the american people that that elected you all the idiots in what is it wolf county kentucky living in shacks that are that don't have a plot to piss in that that bang their cousins they they vote they keep reelecting mitch mcconnell sounds like uh sounds more like west virginia yeah i'm sorry but that's a well-deserved jab at west virginia yeah well well if you're if you're if you're living uh uh very crudely you know there's a chance there's a good chance that you you won't have a nightlife to meet somebody outside of your family so it's a good chance that you're you'll have a role in the hay with your cousins right i mean i've been to kentucky i mean kentucky either has like some really nice places or really bad places it's like somewhere between least here in tennessee you have a good mixed bag of some really good places some really bad places then yet somewhere in the middle like i would consider this i mean it's not really like a really good place it's not really a bad place it's kind of like it's more like somewhere in the middle to good i mean there's some good paying jobs around here and the people around here are good but what i also like about here is there's a good variety of people they're not really democrat they're not really republican although there's good mix of both but overall it kind of balances out to moderate or independent well if you're that poor that where you're living in a law cabin or shack as your main residence um and gee i wonder if the postman ever delivers to those shacks but anyway i digress if you're if you're that poor and you see that the republican that you keep re-electing is not doing a damn thing for you every four years you keep re-electing him and he's not going to do anything for you he hasn't done anything positive for you don't they have the common sense that these folks supposedly have you know to say hey this is not working now after four years i would say after four years i would say what have you done for me oh i'm voting for i'm i'm jumping party for some party lines and i'm voting for a democrat next time but these people keep re-electing the republican that continue continuously does nothing for the poor in mississippi west virginia some parts of kentucky and they keep re-electing them and my hunch on that is they're religious fanatic zealots oh google just froze me yeah you're fine now yeah i see and i wonder about that there are religious freak zealots that are obsessed with uh uh right-to-life agendas oh let's also forget prepare for my extreme southern accent mocking to get ready to happen are you ready for this i'm ready i'm not propelling you i don't want damn lip commies in my life and they're baby killers that those dummy crack those demi no dem dem dar dem dar demikrats are baby killers hey i got news for you dumbass a fertilized egg is no more a human baby than an acorn is an oak tree it's a potential life that's it it's not a life god used to smite everybody back in the old testament if you happen to be a religious fanatic yeah and i gather we believe there's going to smite you down you live easiest time to see in the news that that some of some famous evangelical pastors who used to always say oh natural disasters hurricanes floods they died because god said god smite them for a reason well a couple of them they're they lost their big-ass mansion because they got flooded out themselves the thing is that um this i think they're hanging on to their fanaticism when it comes to abortion and and that's why they vote republican because of their insanity their insane cult is what it is evangelical cult um you know um you think maybe they bang their cousins because adam and eve had to commit incest in order to populate the world you think you think that's the basis for them banging their growth unless unless they're their cousin is that hot looking i don't know i chance whether or not i mean let's try to wrap this up about 430 because um my wife said that we got some really bad storms coming i can kind of see like over towards that way it's getting kind of bad so i said i'll probably be here by about 430 but yeah i'm glad you keep bringing this up because people do not understand the importance of the working class the middle class was put there as the buffer zone as i've talked about before to show that hey capitalism really is not the rich versus the poor because look here there's rich there's poor but hey there's that buffer zone to show that hey some people have made it some people have not that you have an equal chance to succeed or fail but guess what we're really has that come true and has still stayed true yeah it was true for a while but now we see the middle class is dying because capitalism is really advancing really quickly in all the wrong ways and in fact as Lenin said fascism is capitalism and decay that's why we're seeing such a rise in fascism now and i'm going to say now trump is a fucking fascist yeah and and and historically a very tiny percentage uh my my my my late uh co-host uh read uh read it from a book that only like about 10 percent uh since 1776 yeah you've told me about that it became upwardly mobile well and very tiny percentage have become upwardly mobile now the people that vote republicans has said to me what does that mean what's upwardly mobile well that means your standard of living your increase due to your own efforts based on your environment based on opportunity uh if your standard of living stays the same your whole life and your kids and your kids stay the same you know then uh listen if you're gonna get hit with a f f5 tornado no we're not it's not that bad we just got some bad stories but they'll probably be here in a few minutes we can wrap this up yeah all right we've been on for a while yeah and i'm just i'm glad that yeah here all right listen uh let's wrap it up um yeah i'm i'm you know i'm a i'm a stickler for being a stickler right yeah um i'm glad that people need to finally understand the importance of the working class because they really are the backbone of society it's not the poor it's not the rich it is the working class because as george carlin said we're the ones who do all the work and pay all the taxes absolutely the rich do hardly any work if any at all and they pay no taxes the poor the poor are just there to scare the shot of the middle class just keep them showing up at those jobs well the the the rich do what they do because they can because they pay off the politicians it's that simple uh oh by the way all right i did i did a whiskey show it went well with uh j terrio and i i made an announcement about the show we're having right now where the hell are they where are all the craft beer uh uh uh enthusiasts that's that you know said in comments oh you're doing a show with uh with gary w lines that's great one one of them said when is it gonna be on and oh damn don't watch it later wow you know what i told them wednesday at three i forgot i didn't know we were gonna spare the moment we were going to do it on monday never mind i take that back i can't blame you guys i said wednesday but yeah yeah they'll watch it's be it's being recorded again back to the importance of the working class yeah i mean one could probably even argue that the way that capitalism has been towards the rich it's basically been socialism for the rich and we see exactly how well they're doing right now they're getting the best education they're getting the best health care they're getting the best everything so if you can have socialism for the rich which is basically what capitalism is right i want to want to be like it was socialism for the working class like actual real socialism for the working class we'd have the best education we've had and human existence we have the best health care and human existence access to better jobs pay infrastructure free from exploitation things like that and plus what would be much different as compared to paying taxes surplus value i.e profit going to pay for everything so when you have all that going towards infrastructure health care education being reinvested back into jobs increasing pay things like that i mean it's a no brainer to have socialism at least on if you don't necessarily agree with the philosophy of i would know it's like it's atheistic it's i like the materialism at least on an economic argument and at least is the most logical and is the best way to progress forward from here at least even on the economics level yeah absolutely absolutely there's nothing but we have nothing but proven facts and science behind our agenda of being a progressive being a socialist and the right wing has no facts and no science and they just make up their own rules and say crazy things like truth is not truth and which i don't you know and and of course ignoring the scientists when it comes to climate change always they do which is insane because guess what when the shit hits the fan you cannot eat money you got that oligarch or top two percent you cannot eat money well yeah i mean you could but i mean you could you could you could try to eat it but it wouldn't be tasty and you probably die from all the chemicals and shit they put in the paper in the ink but to be honest with the way they are i really care less you know if they won't eat their money go right ahead and and and their bunkers that they're building you know the old missile cold war missile silos converted into underground underground villages or and dwellings well guess what eventually they're going to run out of food and drinkable water and when they come to the surface if something happens there'll be too much radio activity at the surface and then they're just prolonging their death because you know their greed thing you know makes them motivates them to build these underground dwellings whatever and um unless unless you have even if you had hydroponic gardens subterranean hydroponic gardens with full spectrum uh a lighting for them the vegetables of that work how are you going to produce electricity for your underground bunkers exactly i mean i hate to say it it's not they're not going to win this no matter how hard they try they are not going to win this and the final selling point of socialism is for those who want to say oh it's not going to fix a damn thing that economically doesn't make sense oh yeah that's why me and give you another little economics lesson that applies to any system doesn't matter what system it's under when you eliminate competition and trade i.e. eliminating the profit motive it's going to inherently bring costs down so if you bring costs down what money you've got you can make it much more cost effective and actually have this little thing called oh i don't know having money left over so bring the cost of education healthcare down while at the same time increasing job wages increasing um access to infrastructure and also another thing under socialism utilities are paid for so you don't have to pay water electricity because that's viewed as a basic human necessity so if all that can be paid for and provided for everyone we'll stop the money left over you know what really are we still fighting about no it's all it's all pros and with really no cons you know unless you're a greedy rich person and stingy and everything there's really no cons to pure socialism um and then to wrap it all up with the final quote oh yeah they always want to talk about the failures of socialism in this and the other but we're really has been the success of capitalism bedel castro proved me wrong where has the success of capitalism really been where capitalism has set out to prove that it is the best system in the world that is supposed to bring people out of poverty it's supposed to do this and do that where is this adam smith utopia that capitalism is supposed to be because be honest i don't see it in fact i see the exact opposite pretty much the whole world lives under some form of capitalism except for the few remote areas which are still considered like the fourth world and barbarous yeah well when i was a kid i i actually heard ronald reagan say that uh he was anti monopoly he was against monopolies because competition uh produces better products and brings prices down and he was right he was right now now it's all about monopolies you know when i mean competition and trade i'm not talking like you know i'm talking like the free market system getting rid of the competition trade in that regard but okay competition as in like to see who could work harder to make best parts that's not what we're eliminating well well the person the person that i had a debate with the middle class republican person that was against any form of big government or social services uh he says if it wasn't for uh those big corporations and and their CEOs you would not have technology you would not have higher technology bs that's what he's saying folks but for you people that are watching or going to watch this is a wonderful five terabyte solid state external hard drive that my brother-in-law gave me so this individual was saying i would not be able to have this under a pure socialist system bullshit you know that's it socialism is not against having nice things it's just against the class antagonisms and the class nature of capitalism big big difference right exactly exactly and um in that in that case let's wrap it up it was a blockbuster show as always mm-hmm thank you very much gary w over always and and until the next program uh i this uh they will see us out there in cyberspace and um i just really needed to go on that rant at the beginning about the kind of sick and tired of hearing about joe biden is on top joe biden you know flip flops and he's not he's against many democratic socialism programs to help the little guy in the poor flip flops he's a centrist i'm sick of hearing that word because they well you know call them what they are they're they're all corporate whores and that's it i am plain and simple right they're on a take right and the last thing that i'm definitely going to be doing is um for this 2020 election you know how pro-gun i am in the stance of talk about the socialist communist stance um gun ownership is we really need to push towards having the um second amendment being abolished because it's the liberal versus conservative narrative of gun ownership for a place with the right to bear arms socially and collectively because i'm just i'm getting so sick and tired of the liberal and conservative narrative of do nothing versus ban everything i'm just i'm so sick and tired of it i mean we need to change the way that we view guns guns are utilitarian they can be used for just about anything they can be used for self-defense defense of you defense of socialism and also caring on your person that's also the that's also included in the right to bear arms socially and collectively as a class to exercise class power but the republicans as well as democrats liberals conservatives they're not going to go for that and immediately i guarantee you once people start rising up and exercising the right to bear arms socially and collectively it is going to be squashed like that and you better believe that they will unite to try to ban guns to prevent an uprising like that watch it fucking happen in fact they're already trying to do it right now it's just being kind of you know kept under the radar okay because they know people are going to eventually rise up so they're going to do anything and everything their power to make any kind of weaponry illegal to make us slaves and that's not going to happen oh yeah well that's what happens when you disarm the population or make an attempt to yeah yeah um yeah the i'm definitely going to be making the gun issue a very very hot topic for this election because i really want to get people riled up about this yeah well well you know you make it part of your monologue of course i don't want to take take up the entire show about firearms but you know you do your gun monologue and you update people on anything that you've learned about it and including the education the tips that you gave about the ar-15 and about women and firearms and you know different things like like for instance when i was a kid g gordon liddy had a radio talk show he said don't worry about pepper spray mace get the hornet spray that shoots like 30 feet and a narrow stream nail that sucker right in the eyes from a distance that was that was a good tip oh by the way if you're in a car make sure you roll the window down before you shoot the the perpetrator and the eyes with the hornet spray but yeah i mean hey these are these are great tips and we're here to educate people and as well as enlighten them and light a fire under their ass if they have the brain cells to absorb what they hear on this show like a sponge not everybody but you know maybe if we can reach enough people out there so be it so anyway i'll talk to you soon