 Live from Vancouver, Canada, it's theCUBE at OpenStack Summit Vancouver 2015. Brought to you by headline sponsors EMC and jointly by Red Hat and Cisco with additional sponsorship by Brocade and HP. And now your hosts, John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here for day three final wrap up. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier with Stu Miniman. Wrapping up the three days of wall to wall covers of the OpenStack Summit live here in Vancouver, British Columbia. Beautiful scenery, look at that cruise ship. Stu, great city. Would you move here? So John, I wish I could afford to move here because they tell you the food, the drink and everything seems really okay, but I'm wondering if I could find a place on Hawaii cheaper because I hear real estate is quite expensive here. It's like Kalo Alto here. But maybe we can hop on that cruise ship when we're done here. John, this has been, you know, we've been to so many places. I mean, first show we've done in Canada, but, you know, we've had so many great venues. I mean, you look back, John, you know, you've been to Barcelona, you've been to London, you know, Frankfurt, you know, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, lots of places around there. How's this locale size up for you? Well, for me, it's fun. I mean, OpenStack has always been, you know, I've been involved with Rack Space before OpenStack was even started. They tried to get something going with NASA. And we watched it emerge. We brought theCUBE finally to the one in Portland. We drove up and we said, this is too important. We saw that call, we made that call. Good call for us. But when we've watched OpenStack have these, I call nine lives, you know, there was moments where it was teetering on the edge of either collapse or chaos, civil war, whatever you want to call it, and it survived through the perseverance of the community. It survived and had persevered around the core mission to have an alternative to an Amazon for the enterprise, a great hope, a bridge to the future. And they've done that. They've done that. They've crossed over the chasm in my opinion to an environment where you've got real build out, you've got real architecture happening, real engineering up and down the stack from hardware operations to software engineering to solution architects. So it's really awesome. And again, the telltale signs do is the sessions are packed. People are on the floor with their laptops. It's not just a schmoozing, you know, rubbing and networking event. People talking to each other, high-fiving each other, you know, congratulating how great they are. This event has got a lot of meat on the bone and this real engineering involved. We're hearing things like migration, portability, you know, federated identity, you know, certification. It's growing up fast. It's in adolescent stage. I think it's going to accelerate, get investors here still making some good investments. And you've got things like Kubernetes coming out of the woodwork. Kubernetes will be a big deal. We've talked to Patrick Riley and his company, hot startup, that thing is going to be amazing. We had, you know, looking at the container madness that's now proliferated. The table is set. There are tools. There's a developer from Cisco, legend, talking about his vision and his experience and how that shapes into and how the balance of this community is scaling from the bottom up and that's a real rarity to do. And I think, you know, it's going to be a case study, I think, when you look at the success of this open source community, it balances the passion, the entrepreneurship, the developer first mindset with the big guys coming in. And this is a new phenomenon. You're seeing no proprietary vendors out there, no lock-in, really interesting environment. Yeah, so John, you know, put on my analyst hat here and for the first few years of OpenStack, it's how many red flags can we knock down because there were challenges. How do we get stability? You know, what is in the integrated PSO? Now we've got Defcore. Now we've got, you know, powered by OpenStack. The foundation went through massive change over the last year. General feedback, I hear in the hallways the conversation is, you know, we've got a good direction going. A lot of people involved. I'm not ready to say that we're green light. I think, you know, some of those lights where it's red, but you have the little thing that's showing you that it's going to turn green soon. I think we have a clear path to maturity. And, you know, we have been, we were just talking to Boris from Mirantis. He said, there's a lot of customers doing this. We've given all the proof points that this can be done at scale. You know, there is nothing architecturally that's going to stop us from doing it. But, you know, great review we had with Mark Interante talking about, you know, some of the new stuff that's came out in Kilo and the stuff that's going to come in Liberty to help push things forward. Upgrades from one release to another. It's still something that needs to be, you know, filled out to make this, you know, really a full solution. But, absolutely, I think it's well beyond the science project stage. It is the, you know, the poster child for, you know, some of these open source projects to really move things forward. You know, really impressed as to where things gone. John, you know, you and I talked a lot two years ago when theCUBE went to Portland. And it was like, do we go? And is it real? And people said when theCUBE showed up in Portland, it was one of those proof points that this is real. In Atlanta, you know, we really took that step further. And, you know, I was thrilled to come here. I mean, Vancouver, beautiful place. You know, we've been looking out in the harbor all week here. And really good stuff happening. And in some ways, the line I've used a couple of times from Sean Kerner is that it's a little bit boring. There's not as much drama where we're going to real environments. There's lots of users here geeking out on the sessions, as you've said, John, sitting on the floor so that they can get more room. Containers have come a lot long in the last year. We've got a bunch of new projects that are working in this space. And you're going to see that maturation of the integration engine that is OpenStack. So as integrations do you see as a big deal? Yeah, absolutely, John. So, you know, if we've moved above products and we've moved up to a platform and it's not, you know, Boris was saying that OpenStack can be one of the data center operating systems. But it's only a piece of the entire puzzle because, well, what about containers? Well, that's going to plug in. I take things like Docker Swarm. I take things like Kubernetes. I can plug that into Magnum. And underneath, you know, I still need infrastructure. You know, all the software needs to live somewhere. It needs physical equipment in a physical data center. And there's lots of service provider action here at the show and in the OpenStack space. So, you know, absolutely it's not the full stack, but it's the new software stack built on, you know, open APIs, go to Git to get all the content. And, you know, yeah, this is the new modern, you know, software platform. I got to ask you, Stu, about EMC. You got the big whales coming in. What's your take on EMC's moves here? We've talked to some EMC folks here in theCUBE. What's your take on EMC? Yeah, so, I mean, John, with my background, I worked at EMC, you know, I love to poke at EMC for what credibility they have in open source. I can tell you when I knew in the interoperability lab when I started, there was one engineer there. Now, you look at the proof points they have, the code they're making. I like that they're open source and projects. It's great that they can, you know, bring in a bunch of people here because they've been involved in OpenStack for years, but, you know, top levels- They're putting some wood behind the arrow. There is wood behind the arrow and from the, you know, Randy was our first guest of the week. And what did he say? Joe Tucci said that two of the top things of the four things that they're hearing from users are, you know, open source software and COTS hardware. And we're already seeing the COTS hardware in there and the software is starting to change. So EMC's a big ship that's pivoting in this direction and I would never count them out because they know how to move and change with the sea. Okay, Cisco, Red Hat, big relationship there, developing what's your analysis of that? Yeah, so, you know, it's interesting. You know, Lou, as you said, it's just an honor to be able to talk to him and go in to what they're doing. There are parts of Cisco that are fully all in on everything open source. And then there's plenty of parts of Cisco where that's not the way they do things. You know, Cisco, I think, lead-led standards for many years and they solve customer problems and then they worry about kind of standardizing and doing everything else. But absolutely, there's real commitment from Cisco here and the partnership with Red Hat is a great proof point. What better way to, you know, say that you're heavily involved here than have the company that knows how to deliver on that environment, you know, Red Hat? You know, interest or relationship with the OpenStack community, you know, last year it was one of our top kind of trending stories was as how kind of Red Hat was, you know, how they were going to manage their OpenStack distribution with, you know, what it could work with. You know, if you talk to Canonical, you talk to Morantis, they will shoot arrows at Red Hat, but Red Hat has hundreds of customers using OpenStack, you know, and they are, you know, forced to be reckoned with in this space. So, you know, doing well, some of the giants. Stu, while we're going to wrap up the show here, again, OpenStack Summit, I guess our report is this, the vibe is great, the feeling in the community is up into the right, it's got a great vibe, people, new people are coming in, new in-migration from real practitioners. It is on a road to maturity, it's far from mature yet, but the signs are beautiful, you're seeing some maturization, you're seeing some great production deployments, not just POCs anymore, and you're starting to see some simplicity, you're starting to see some execution at a very large scale, speed, service providers to the enterprise, a lot of great action, again, robust community. So, I'm super excited to continue the conversation, look for our crowd chats, go to wikibon.com for the research, and obviously silkenangle.com for the blog. So, we're going to continue to be covering, Stu, great guests, great job this week, you know, getting in all the conversations, hitting the hallways, hitting the events, getting the data, and sharing it with the guests here on theCUBE and also the audience. Shout out to the boys here, Andrew, Patrick, Greg, great job, all the folks back at the ranch at Silkenangle. This is theCUBE, psyched to be here, and looking forward to continuing the conversation on our sites. Stay tuned for our next opportunity, looking for HP Discover's next, we're going to take a week off, regroup, and then full swing through the summer into the fall. So, this is theCUBE, breaking live here in Vancouver, British Columbia, for performance tech summit. Thanks for watching and see you next time.