 The writers are on strike and the Lakers lose coincidence. No, better team just won four straight times. Run it back starts now. Run it up. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Run it back. Run it up. Happy Tuesday morning and welcome to run it back. We've got a pretty good show ahead of us today. Coming off a pretty great night unless you're a TV executive. I'd like to introduce everyone. We're going to show in Shamsherania Stadium insider Chandler Parsons and Eddie Gonzalez on the end and guys. Woo. Nuggets did it. Got the brooms out in Los Angeles in front of all of the stars winning game four and heading to their first finals appearance in franchise history. Yolkic 30 14 and 13 Murray pitch in a 25 pointer and LeBron with 31 first half points. They had a nice 15 point half time lead and then things went really sour in the third Chandler. Your reaction to Denver not just coming back but completing the sweep. Yeah, you said it in the intro Michelle the better team they won and LeBron was quoted after the game saying that this when he was talking with AD this is arguably the best team that they've played in this four year stint that they've been together. So this team is primed and you know what they're healthy and they play the right way and they've been doing this all season long outside of the Bucks and their debacle in the playoffs. This is the best team all season long. So they deserve to go to the finals. It's a historic night for them. They've never swept series. They've never went to the NBA finals. They're primed. They're peaking at the exact right time. And when you have a generational guy like Yolkic, it just makes the game so much easier for everyone else. They played seven guys last night. They're in great shape. Like I said, they're healthy. They're not dealing with a lot of these injuries that other teams have to dealt with. Mull Murray's back in their role players. They know their role. And this team is primed to win a championship this year. So I'm super happy for them. Malone has been an unbelievable coach. Yolkic has been a unbelievable leader. And they're just getting things from every single player on that roster and they deserve to win this series. And they did it in fashion and business as usual. And they dominated from start to finish. Yeah, they took the Lakers' best shot. They took the Lakers' couple best shots. And they rolled it right off them. You know, that third quarter decided the game. 36 to 16. The Lakers look like they're rolling on into the half. LeBron had it. Quite literally the best half of his career. His most points he's ever scored in a half in a game. 31 points. It looked like he was clear on his way to 50. Whether you want to say he gassed out. Whether you want to say the nuggets adjusted. Whatever you want to call it. He ended up with a great game anyway. And it just wasn't enough. Is this the best team they've played as a Laker? I mean, I guess. I don't know. But this is the best team in the league right now. That's all I know. And they get to the playoffs. They get to the finals. 12-3 on their way there. Shout out to Katie and Booker. The only team to beat them twice. Whatever that stands for. Whatever that means. I'll take credit for it though. But 12-3 run. And it really, they should have got the wolves out of there in time when they did. And that miraculous win that Anthony Edwards was able to secure. They look dominant. They look outright dominant in that second half. And like Chandler mentioned, they just seem to be in better shape than everybody. And it's funny because you look at Jokic. And then what you think of Jokic. And what you think he's supposed to be. He plays all night last night. He plays most of the fourth quarter with five fouls. He's beaten every big up the court. I watched him do it to Yandre. I watched him do it to Anthony Davis, my bad. And he's not supposed to be the most athletic guy on the court. And he keeps looking like that. Like the most well-conditioned player in the league. And, you know, credit to them for that. They knew they were going to have to run teams out of the gym. And they've done that. And, you know, they got a challenge for them, waiting for them in Miami or maybe Boston. But they look like the best team by far. I mean, listen, I've been on the Denver Nuggets bandwagon for all year. But I just remember Michelle, the conversation I had with Calvin Booth. He takes over for Tim Connolly last off season when Tim Connolly goes to Minnesota on a big deal to go become their president. And the confidence and the expectations that Calvin Booth showed and exuded, I think not only to me, but I think everyone around the league. This is an organization from Calvin Booth. Once he took over, that was expecting a championship. And Michael Malone, you saw him say last night that the job isn't done yet. This team isn't playing for a Western Conference championship. They're playing for an NBA championship. And I think that level of expectation, the fact that they weren't going to settle for anything less than that, they know what they can do. And we saw it a few years ago in the bubble. They made it to the Western Conference finals. I think they were on the cusp of making it to the NBA finals when they went and got Aaron Gordon a couple of years ago. Jamal Murray goes down. And now this team is healthy. They're deep. And I think you have to look at them being the best team standing as of yet. We'll see if Miami can move on. And we can't count out Miami, but Denver right now, I think they're going to go into this series the same way Calvin Booth, that burn office, that ownership, that organization, they're going to be going into that series believing they should win. And if they don't, it will be a disappointment. Yeah. They're coming in hot for sure after the game. Lisa Salters presenting Yolkich with the Western Conference MVP award. And she asked him, what does it mean to him? His answer? Nothing. Chandler, again, we talked about it all year, the MVP award that he didn't win. Still, to me, is the best thing that happened to him. Is he head and shoulders above everyone else? Let's say Miami does go the file. Is he head and shoulders the best guy on the court? Yeah, he is. And no disrespect to Jimmy. No disrespect to any of these guys in the league. AD played rather good this postseason. This playoff is against them, but it's just a different level. This guy's a different level. He has his eighth triple double last night by the third quarter again. Like Eddie said, he doesn't look like he's in the best of shape, but he outworks everybody. He understands angles better than anybody. He just plays the game like something that we've never seen so unorthodox. It's so effective. It's so efficient. He looks like a man playing with boys, but he's not stronger than these guys. I don't really know how he does it, but it is so impressive what this guy does. That shot right there. That was crazy. It's a joke. It really is a joke what he's doing. And I believe him when he says, I don't care. It means nothing to me. I believe him that he didn't hear about the MVP. There's a lot of stuff. There's some stuff said last night that I don't believe. I'm sure we'll get to. I believe this guy when he says things like this, I believe he cares about winning. He said after the game last night, this is why he loves to play off so much because he doesn't care about fouls. He doesn't care about how tired you are. He doesn't care about his field goal percentage. He just wants to win. And he plays the game that way. And he plays the right way. I said this earlier in the year. There's one guy that any player, if it's a free agent market and there's a dominating player, I know Joel had a great year and he should have won the MVP and he did. But I want to play with this guy because he makes the game so much easier for everybody. He can score. He's now defending, putting effort on the end. He's one of the best passing bigs, let alone players of all time. So, he plays the game beautifully and I'm super proud for him because the only knock on him is that he hasn't won and he's going to get a real shot, most likely being a favor to win the NBA championship now. So, respect to him and that whole organization. I kind of hate that award, the conference finals MVP thing. I love that it's this tiny McDonald's Happy Meal saved award. But if there's ever a year where we needed them, it's this year. Like, we need to commemorate Nicole Yolkens for what he's done to the Western Conference this year and in these playoffs. We need to commemorate Jimmy Butler as well on the other side and I believe him that it doesn't mean anything. But it is a nice token for him to have and it is kind of like a nice symbol for fans to recognize like, yo, that guy is dominating that conference. He's the best player in the league right now. I don't think you can really debate it because what he's doing, this is always the knock, do it in the playoffs, win in the playoffs, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, he's running through the playoffs. He's beat a championship team, I think, in the Lakers. If he made them look like scrubs, he's got us all wondering, what are they going to do all summer? I was watching him last night. I think I finally figured it out and I'm sure I'm not the only person to say this, but he's like bigger Larry Bird and we weren't supposed to ever have a bigger Larry Bird. But the stuff he's doing, the way he commands the game, the fact that he can hit any shot on the court, that one-legged three, the most ridiculous part about that one-legged three is that he's done that like four times in this series. He's done that a bunch of times this year. The fact that he can just, oh, the shot clocks ticking down. I got the best defender in the league on me. Oh, I'll just dig deep in this bag and drop this shot again on him. And in crunch time, like, it's ridiculous. The craziest parts of me about last night, he had 30 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists. I didn't even feel like this best game of the series. And then late in that game, LeBron kept isolating him. And then at one point, he just decided like, I can't, I don't know if I can go buy him anymore. And then they crumbled as they did. He's incredible. I just have to tip my hat all season long on this show. I said, show me in the playoffs, show me in the playoffs, show me in the playoffs. He showed us in the playoffs. Like there's nothing left. He's the one for four more games, but he's great. We know it right now. Yeah, I think that argument is done. Of course, we have to get to LeBron after the game he was asked about his thought process going into the off season way ahead of schedule in the passive aggressive chart. So he's got to think about whether or not he wants to play next year. Shoms, what are you hearing? I mean, anytime you're 38 years old after year 20, I think you're going to be mentally year to year moving forward. But my sense is LeBron could have two years left remaining in his career. I do think that the workload of the season, everything that's gone into the year just a few months ago, he could have had season ending surgery on that tendon. And he's had to have such a big load on this team as far as how much he's got to carry on a night to night basis going into year 21. I think how the Lakers manage this roster, how they try to beef up this team. I think that'll be very interesting to monitor. But there's certainly an expectation that he's going to continue playing. He's got two years left on his Lakers deal. So let's see after the emotions were off from last night, give it a few days. What moves could the Lakers make? But I think certainly there's a level of expectation that LeBron James will continue his career, that it would be a surprise, a true surprise if he really did actually retire. But listen, he's got enough money to do so. But there are a lot of reasons why it doesn't really make a ton of sense. Yeah, chomps. Don't drink that juice, chomps. There's no way this man is done playing basketball. Does he sit out next year maybe and come back to fall in here and play with his son? Probably not either. But I think he's still a top 10, top 15 player in the world. There's 0% chance this guy is done playing. You showed him. And you know what he did last night? It kind of pissed me off in a way. But where was this the first three games, this aggression, this driving to the rim? He made it look so easy in the first quarter. And then even after that, he goes away from it for some reason. And I know he's older in age. I know he's probably fatigued. I know he can do that every single play against a set defense. But it seemed like as if he made a point last night, just to be so aggressive and to set the tempo and get to the basket. And that's what they need. And think about that still wasn't enough, but that put them in the best position to win this game. And if you look at this series, he had a chance in all four of these games to win the game. The better team just ended up winning. But you know what, LeBron, I got to give him respect. He did just enough to not blame him for this week. He played really, really well. Everyone's going to shit on him. He got swept. MJ never got swept. And he's not the goat. If he was the goat, That's true. LeBron did everything he could. He was a dominant player, especially in this game. I've never seen him play that well in a half like that with the season on the line. So he did do that. But the comment after the game, it's just another eye roll comment where it's like, bro, stop. You're playing. You've talked about all year long. You want to play with your son. You're still an elite talent dominated this year. You're an all NBA guy. Like stop. You're not going in the term. Couldn't help himself. Couldn't help himself. Eddie, what'd you think? Did you roll your eyes? Michelle, I'm going to do it. I'm going to say what you want to say for you. So you don't have to. I roll my eyes like my head spun. I couldn't believe you said that. If you watch the presser, the question was like, what do you think of this season that just passed? And he talked a little bit about the season and then just kind of was like, man, I'm not sure. I'm not sure about, you know, the quote was whatever the quote was. I was like baffled because like Chandler said, he's been telling us for like two years. I'm going to play with my son. That's my only goal. That's all I care about. That's all I'm going to do. He's about to start USC this fall. So we're talking at least another season. He looks great all season long. He had 29 points a game. Like Chandler mentioned, top 10, top 15 player, however you rank him, I don't care. He has years left in him. I will say I'm sure the seasons are grueling for him. I read the article that Savannah's just did and she kind of talked about how the seasons are grueling for them as a family. I'm sure it's a little exhausting for him. He's been hurt the last few seasons. I'm sure. But for him to throw that out there was like baffling to me. Like what is, what is he trying to do? What is he trying to set up with that? Like it seemed calculated as most LeBron things do seem. It seemed intentional when people were saying, Hey, he's trying to, he's trying to overshadow the sweep. He's trying to take away the attention from the nuggets. Whatever it worked. Like Carmelo Anthony retired yesterday and now we're talking, we're starting our show talking about it's LeBron James going to retire. It's not going to retire. I don't know why he said this. I don't know why he then went to two separate reporters and then told them the same thing. He's considering retirement. It's baffling. And it also covers up a little bit of the final minute of the game where he seemed like he seemed to cower just a little bit. I'm not saying all this hyperbole stuff LeBron is great. He's greatest of all time. He's clutch. He's all that good stuff. But for as great as this game was 21 points in the first quarter. And then it teetered off from there. The last three possessions of that game. A little baffling. He gets, he gets your kids on the island. He sets up a Austin Reeves three like, yo, this season's on the line LeBron. Shout out to AR. But it's got to be in your hands. Then he takes two attempts at this drive here. Neither one works. Season's over. Sweep. You know, look, whatever he was trying to do, he did it because everybody's wondering if he's going to retire when we all know he's not. Right. Because if you think the guy who couldn't help himself or hold it in for three days to get the attention is not going to want a ridiculously over-the-top farewell season or two, then you have not been paying attention his entire career. His most passive aggressive look at me Larry that I think we've ever had. And so I even I was shocked that we didn't even get a day. I thought, okay, we're going to get to the finals and we'll get one of those tweets and then we can all talk. Nah. Gudos. I even acted himself. If you, if you, if you think he's not going to make the city of Cleveland and the city of Miami kiss the ring on his farewell tour. You do not know LeBron's names. You have not watched the last 23 years of LeBron's and that we've seen. He will have all of the ceremonies. We will not be sounding like Dremont about him wanting the farewell tour. He's getting the farewell tour. And then some, look, Eddie, the game, there were times when I thought, okay, this is the one there. They might win this one. They're going to, they're going to have some pride. They're going to pull this one out. What, besides Yokech, that's saying the obvious, what was the reason why at the end of the day the Lakers just didn't have enough to get one? Well, Rui had some more look like Rui. I don't have to eat a tweet. Like I said, I was going to have her hit five threes in a game. They didn't get the greatest game from Anthony Davis. I mean, they couldn't keep up with this team offensively. That's what it came down to. And that third quarter, 36 to 16, that's the game. You know, you're walking a half-time up double digits. You had your biggest lead of the series so far. And that's gone like that. And there's not enough timeouts, not enough speeches on that bench to fix it. They're playing Tristan Thompson. They're doing everything they could do. They essentially benched D'Lo. But they went down with one of the same fatal flaws they've had all season. They had no shooting. The lineups they had to keep on the floor to keep up defending. We watched D'Lo miss a couple of late threes. We watched Austin Reeves miss a couple of late threes. There was a point in that fourth quarter. They were 0-8 from three. And I think Austin Reeves finally made one in the corner. And that was the only three of that quarter. They went down not being able to shoot the basketball with the people they put on the court. And they're going to have to rectify that. You don't know anything about LeBron James' teams. You need shooters in each of those corners so he can space out and operate in the way he does. And Rui Hattamour, Dennis Shroeder, they're not shooters. This is what it came down to. But the nuggets, they keep five shooters on that floor at all times. Which is why he didn't see Christian Braun last night. Which is why he seemed just a little bit of Bruce Brown. Which is why he seemed just a little bit of Jeff Green. They knew they had to go down with shooting and they did. Look, Chandler, you mentioned A.D. and he did not have a bad playoff. Like, for all the things that we say about him. He does have some Jekyll and Hyde moments, including the fact that with the season on the line, he was outscored by Aaron Gordon. So as far as if you could surmise what you've learned about Anthony Davis in this postseason, what would you say? Well, you said that he's had, he has some great games, right? That game won. It's just, it's good. And A.D. is good. It's really good. It's just when you're going up against Nicola Jokic, it's a different level. And you have to be, you have to do that every single play. You have to outwork him because the talent level of A.D.'s whole career and usually who he matches up with, it's substantial. And when you get a guy like Jokic, it's not. So that mitigates everything that he does. So it's just a tough matchup for anybody. And again, A.D. just, he has this gift for wanting you to want, needing you to want more. And I just see his potential. I see how talented he is. I see the things he can do offensively and defensively and he just, he takes plays off. And you can't do that in a series and you damn sure can't do that against Jokic. So it's tough because like we said, he had some big games. He can't say he played bad in this series. I just, like LeBron in the first quarter, I wanted to see them like their season was on the line and to not take any plays off and to go extremely hard, get to the foul line. Give Jokic a hard foul. Like, how is this guy just come in a two games in a row and you're building to end your season without somebody putting him on the floor or doing something about it. So it's just, again, the better team won. Even that last play we're dip picking now and that was great help defense by Jamal Murray. Anthony Davis is wide open. So if LeBron throws it back to him to make a shot there at the buzzer to possibly send it. But I love the fact that LeBron did that. He most likely gets the whistle there if Jamal Murray doesn't grab all ball in no hand. But listen, A.D., he's going to be fine. We all know his injury history, but when he's healthy, he's an elite talent. He's just in another ballgame when he's matched up with Jokic. Shoms, I know your offseason as usual is going to be crazy and you're going to be chasing a whole bunch of leads, but where do the Lakers go from here? Well, to me, you look at the season, it's a grand success. I mean, you go from two and 10 on the season to start and then you end up in the Western Conference Finals. You look at the Lakers for an office, Rob Polinka, Joey, Jesse Buss, Kurt Reimers. You have to give them credit for the job that they did collectively, reshaping this team at the trade deadline. D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimora, Jared Vanderbilt, Malik Beasley. And I think going into the summer, there's no question, they're going to prioritize resigning Reeves, resigning Rui Hachimora. What I'm curious about is D'Angelo Russell, he gets benched, he comes off the bench in that last game last night. Do you explore getting another point guard? I think you have to, that's got to be something that's kind of mine, just looking at the T-leaves. D'Angelo Russell did not have a great series and I think he was benched that fourth game. So seeing what they do there will be curious, but bringing him back also makes some sense and this is a team that does have some young talent, Reeves, Max Christie. And I think overall, this has to be a great experience for Darwin Ham to be able to coach into the Western Conference Finals in his rookie year as head coach. That's invaluable for him moving forward. That's very young and Kyrie Courtside. So let all that speculation begin and run rampant. Choms, thank you so much. We will see you bright and early tomorrow morning and we'll take a quick break when we come back. Red Hutt, Chili Bevers, Bases, and first of all, the fact that he showed up, much respect. Flee joins us next. Our guest this morning, the most influential musicians on the planet. Huge Lakers fan. As you can tell by his post-game tweet, congratulations to the Nuggets. The better team won. I'm going to go drink motor oil. Ladies and gentlemen, I produce. I introduced. I did not produce Flee, but that would have been cool. Flee, you are here. First of all, how did the motor oil taste? Talk to me on that. Well, I recommend 38. Evolve the lane 30-way if you're going to do it. I'm going to go with the Nuggets cults. They beat you with sticks and stuff. It sounded like self-flagellation. I felt like I deserved to suffer. You know, being an intense sports fan, I've been a Laker fan since I was a little boy. You really have to suffer. It's such an emotional roller coaster. And this season was, you know, Lakers seasons often are, but the ups and downs in this one, it was such an emotional ride. And it got so much better with Palinka's masterful stroke at the trade deadline. And I really, like, you know, it's kind of easier to just suffer and to suck. But then when you get that hope and you hold on to that glimmer of hope, it's so exciting. But last night was really a nail in the coffin of the season. The death rattle was painful. Tell me, take me through last night's game because there were, I mean, obviously at halftime, you had to have been optimistic. Sort of what was the emotional roller coaster like? It was just, you know, I started off the game kind of like, okay, we're down three, you know, it's over, you know. So let me just watch this last game. Maybe we'll get a win. Maybe they'll show some guts. And it was almost like I was like, gosh, this is how it is for normal people to watch a sporting event. They go, it's entertainment. Oh, look, I'm enjoying the game. And then, you know, when I started getting hope and they got up by 15 at the half, I was like, oh my God, we could do this. We could win four in a row. We've got LeBron James. They're going to find their magic. And then it just, you know, unfolded and down to that last painful play. And, you know, look, it's when we beat the Warriors, I had so much joy in my heart. We beat the Grizzlies. It was incredible. The Grizzlies were immature and kind of a mentally weak team. The Warriors are at the end of their run. You could feel them energetically folding. And then we got to Denver. It was just like, they were just better, you know, and they just had to accept the fact that they were a better basketball team. That team is so well constructed. It's built so well. You know, when you got the Joker down in the paint there and the guys that shoot as good as they shoot, they just couldn't rotate out to the shooters and keep an eye on Yolkich down there. It was impossible with Gordon getting to the basket. It was just insane. The Lakers just couldn't beat them. You know, I mean, the shooting like that, I think it was game three. Like, what are you going to do? I've never, it's one of the best shooting I've ever seen in my life. The dude just wouldn't miss. I wanted to run out in the court and poke him in the eyes. It's just game three. I'm going on a tangent. I could go on and on. It was very painful and sad. I was sad. I was up all night. I woke up in the middle of the night. I was like, why am I so miserable? What is this existential despair? Why am I staring out into the abyss like this emptiness? Like lack of hope for humanity? I was like, oh yeah, the Lakers lost. Wow, okay. Yeah. That's how it is for me. You guys are like you're smart, you're basketball people. For us poor little fans who are like little children suffering. Have some empathy. Have some empathy. Tell us how you really feel, Lee. Yeah, I'm sad. I'm sad. You mentioned the job Rob Polinka did and we all know how the Lakers started this season even up to the trade deadline. What they were looking at. I know Lakers fans only judges this by banners but is this a successful season to you? Did you enjoy the season even though you had this despair last night? I mean, there is, I can't enjoy losing with a team with LeBron James and Anthony Davis and they put like a really fun team around them and it was great to cheer for Austin Reaves and Rui and the Lonnie Walker game. Don't forget game floor against the Walker. There's the Lonnie Walker game. I love Lonnie Walker. I loved him when he was on the spurs. You know, it was a question. You feel like the season was a success? Oh, yes. Sorry about that. It was a success in that winning the first two rounds was so profoundly satisfying. But no, it's not a success. Losing is to Denver is not a success. To go and face them, I thought that the Lakers could beat them and it was a real let down to see that we just couldn't and it wasn't like we just couldn't because the ball didn't roll this way or that way or they, you know, they were just better and it made me realize it's going to be really hard for the Lakers to get better next season to be better than they are because we don't know what their roster is. It's like, you know, what are they? They re-sign Rui, they re-sign Austin. Who are we going to have? Are we going to have D'Angelo Russell? Is he going to be engaged and present and there, you know, for like crunch time moments when, you know, we didn't really get to see him do everything we hoped he could do against Denver? I just, you know, it's hard. It's hard. I mean, I'm going to be there screaming my guts out like a maniac and pleading for every shot to go in but it's, it looks like a hard time for the Lakers right now. LeBron's getting older, you know, he dropped that hint last night about What did you think about that? Are you buying that or is that just he's frustrated in the moment? I mean, I think he's definitely frustrated in the moment but I think LeBron, I thought that interview was a beautiful interview actually, I think he's a guy that's, you know, very honest and tapped in and I don't feel cynical at all about things that he says like I don't, you know, I think there's a tendency for athletes in the position that he's in. I mean, there's only one guy in his position but to be kind of political with their statements and to like, there's like a sort of this media manipulation to a point. I don't really, I think LeBron's he was just like really speaking from the heart, you know, like it was touching to hear him speak last night actually for me, you know, speaking about him and Melo being 16 years old and stuff and I'm sitting there like you know, but I don't know, like my first instinct was like, oh, he'll go play somewhere else where he has a chance because he doesn't think they can rebuild, you know, with the position that they're in. That was my first fear and then I just don't know. I don't know. I think I just like take it at face value. He needs to figure out what he wants to do, you know. You're not a cynical man at all. You are not cynical, Flea. I kind of love that about you. Flea, don't worry about it. Flea, I know he's not going anywhere and he's going to be a Laker next year so you can rest easy, my man. Yes. Yeah, I love LeBron. Yeah, sticking with LeBron. A lot of people this morning are hating on him saying that him getting swept hurts his legacy. What's your thoughts on that? After the guy, what did he have? Like 30, 11 and 9? I mean 40, 11 and 9 or something like that last night? Like played every minute. I think he took four seconds off in the second quarter. That is like so ridiculous. There's like those people dissing LeBron. It's like gnats flying around a lion's mane. You know, it's just absurd. The guy like again and again proves himself to have integrity to play with heart to give everything. You know, I mean, sure. I wish he did everything perfectly. He never missed a free throw. I wish on that last play like before it got cut down to four seconds and he didn't draw back above the three point line and kind of let five, six seconds go off the clock. Like, um, you know, I it's ridiculous LeBron is like a beautiful dude and an intense basketball player. The likes that we've never seen before and we'll never see again. I mean, when you think about him like him breaking that scoring record this year, like I never even thought LeBron like that scoring was the strongest part of his game. You know, he's always been this all around player. There's like Magic Johnson type of guy and you know, guys like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, like guys that were considered the greatest scores of all time. They didn't come close to Kareem's record. I mean the guy is just phenomenal and he still like carried a team on his back to the Western Conference final. Like, you know, it hurts his legacy. Give me a break. Let's talk about one guy who LeGravain don't seem to be liking right now, Dilo. We haven't mentioned him yet. If you go back to the trade, I mean it was Vando, Dilo, Malik Beasley, only one of those guys played last night. Where were you with the trade? Would you have kept Russ? Do you feel like they got good return? What do you feel about all that? I think it was a great trade. I mean chemistry wasn't working out with Russ or Westbrook. And getting Dilo was really exciting and fun. He came in. He was playing great. And I think he's great and I think he can be great. I think it was a smart, intelligent, it was a great move. It was one of that like for that trade deadline move was awesome. And the whole team changed and became so much fun. I think the hard part with that I can gather and you know, I'm just a basketball fan. But with Dilo is that he has one way that he plays and it's great. He's super smooth. But it's kind of like one level. It's incredible. But and when he's hitting the shots and when he's on, it's really exciting. But I just don't see it shift according to shifting situations, particularly in the playoffs where you have to change as a team and you have to change on a player according to, you know, given games and different different matchups. And I kind of see him doing the same thing no matter what what is changing around him. And actually I'm interested, you know, like you guys what you think about that because that's what I'm seeing. Like I think he's great, but I don't see him shifting and changing when his game needs to change for particular situations. I want to bring up a guy that could be available as well, but I want to put it into context a little bit. So in 2018 Lakers Rockets CP3, your band for for an interaction with CP3 and CP3 could be available. So take me through what this is and also do you want CP3? What is going on? That was, you know, that was when he smacked Rondo they had, it was the Rondo CP3 Square Mesh of 2020 or 21 or whatever it was. And I don't know, like the whole thing was like did Rondo spit on him or not, but but no, I don't know that's another hard one too. I mean, CP3 has injured a lot and historically hasn't really done well in the crunch times in the playoffs and he's getting older and I think the Lakers really need youth and athleticism but I don't know if they keep it on, you get CP3 it could be as that's a tricky one. That's a tricky one. Maybe you know a tandem of Dilo and CP3. I just don't know. I mean CP3 is not going to is this contract up? Is this contract up? Is he getting a new contract? He's not going to get another big old contract, right? I don't think so, but you get CP3 if you can get him. The guy is probably one of the greatest mid-range shooters to ever play in the game. He's one of the great point guards of all time and yeah, you get him and just like bring out the walkers and the crutches and the old man team and I got gray hair coming down. Get CP3. You've been a season take-holder for the Lakers since 1988. That's 35 incredible years for that team really. What's the best game you've ever been to? How much did Kobe score that night? Because it has to be about him. Be honest, I mean you know that 2010 against the Celtics was pretty incredible and I saw so many awesome Kobe moments but for me my favorite basketball player of all time is Magic Johnson and my memories of I used to sit, I couldn't afford to go to games when I was a kid or for the majority of it wasn't until when we signed with Warner Brothers Records in the late 80s and I got to go sit down front and watch Magic Johnson was worthy and Byron Scott on the wing and Karim Abdul-Jabbar and I can't even isolate a particular game right now but the feeling of Magic Johnson running the fast break with those guys on the wing was the thing that that really like just I would just explode with joy and the possibilities of humanity with that kind of vision and playing and seeing a guy that present in the moment it was so beautiful to watch and I'll never ever forget it. But now that I'm speaking I'd say the favorite game I ever saw and I believe it was I think it was 1975 the Lakers got Karim and my mother took me and we sat way at the top, my mom was like an assistant in a legal office and her boss gave her tickets and we sat up in the nosebleeds and I saw Karim play and we had moved to LA I was like 13 years old or something and I just that sort of really made I always loved sports but that made me fall in love with basketball Karim Abdul-Jabbar made me fall in love with basketball and I remember that game like just watching him shoot that beautiful skyhook and the way he would speak and just everything about him he's my that made me fall in love with basketball so I'm going with that game when I was a little boy and I first saw Karim play and was just you know the profound mystery of the sport as a metaphor for everything's great about human beings yeah yeah you talk about as a kid going with your mom sitting in the nosebleeds not being able to afford tickets now fast forward have you ever thought or considered about buying a steak in the Lakers hahahaha I had a cash channel you know but um you know a small little steak you know yeah yeah I would absolutely uh you know be very excited about that you know I have a little piece of the form floor when they left the form before they went to the center and that's my steak I got that on the wall at home you know the autographed piece of the form floor that's my steak um yeah I think most I think most of us who are fans of basketball actually like to play basketball as well because it's relatable right like all you need is the ball and a hoop you are not excluded from that as well the nineties had rock and jock please bring it back by the way at one point you hit six threes in a row and like was that the highlight can you still do this are you still hooping I'm shooting so much better than that now I've always had I shoot I shoot every day I love like nothing even when I go on tour I bring a ball I find a park I go shoot get my head right um but I during the pandemic you know I've always had a ridiculous shot when I was a little kid I never learned to shoot right and I had this like weird two-handed shot and during the pandemic um I got the shooting coach this guy Chris Matthews the lethal shooter and I was like you know what I'm like I'm 57 years old and it's time for me to look at how to shoot right and I and I learned I got like I got like good shooting form and um and learned how to shoot right over the pandemic so my shooting is actually way better than then I did win this three-point shootoff in the rockin' jock let that be known and I also won MVP as a game with an assist from Mitch Richmond that hit the ten-point shot he drained it and drained it in the game and that is definitely the highlight of my basketball career I don't think I could as long as outside of maybe the birth of my children are you listening NBA bring all of this back do something with it by the way you have a podcast little like tell us about that I imagine it's positive yeah no it's a podcast about music education I have a non-profit music school called the Silver Lake conservatory of music I founded it 21 years ago we teach about 800 kids a week in Los Angeles it's a non-profit school and it's a podcast to raise money for the school and I speak to different musicians about their music education their path to studying music and it's really cool because I teach to speak to a concert violinist or speak to a rapper or speak to a rock musician everyone's path is so different from a really cerebral path to someone who's just doing something to survive and it's really fascinating people finding a path and honing and working on it to develop a skill that's meaningful to them that is awesome that's truly life changing Flee, so much respect for you to come on this morning I know it's bright and early on the west coast and I know it wasn't a happy morning to wake up to but we appreciate it, it's been an honor thank you it was really nice to speak to all of you and appreciate the basketball insights and thank you for having me to my basketball yeah keep shooting maybe they'll get a good celebrity game that comes in here for my birthday my wife got me this thing that rebounds for you the Dr. Dish you know you shoot it I've been like Flee, I've been retired for three years now you're the only person that can get me out of retirement to do a little shooting competition so call me I'm ready let's go to the compound this is awesome, we're taking a break we'll be back we'll be back tonight Celtics down in Miami trying to salvage a bit of dignity the heat favored by Fandall Sportsbook point and a half, so not much Chandler which version of the Celtics will we see tonight? hopefully the best and this is the game where they can really prove something right this is a void of sweep this has been a great team all year long and you know what win game four, force a game five in Boston and get one at home then all of a sudden the pressure goes back to Miami but the heat are going to make this difficult the heat have been very very solid they play the right way they're kind of very similar to Denver where they just make the extra pass their guys know their role they have a star and Jimmy and a second fiddle guy and bam that have been great so it's not going to be easy but it starts with Tatum and then it goes to Brown and they have to be efficient to it when tonight or it's going to be a really sour ending to a really good season so the heat aren't going to make it easy but I expect the Celtics to come out and be aggressive and play and at least jump out to an early lead and hopefully they can sustain it and kind of prolong this year it's going to start on defense they're going to have to figure out what they're doing with Jimmy Butler I think they should start Rob Williams instead of Al I think going with Derek White again is the right answer but they're going to need to send bodies at Jimmy like he is the best player in the league he's the best player in the conference like he has been for the last month they're going to treat him as such and they're going to get some stops the heat are averaging 120 points a game this series after being the worst scoring team in the league you got to step it up on that end and I don't know if they have the bodies for that they're scoring fine they look defeated after the other night they did in their post game press conferences they didn't play the fourth quarter because they were getting blown out so bad but I am with Chandler it does start with Jason Tatum on both ends I believe too he's going to need to have an explosive offensive night and he's going to need to step up on defense I want to see a longer series this will be the first time in history I looked it up for you Chandler this will be the first time in history we have two sweeps in the conference finals the only other time we got close to 2015 so I want to see some games I want to see some games this weekend by the way congratulations Eddie on your promotion you're also our research department now so I hope you got a raise because we needed one and I appreciate you Chandler he mentioned the body language the other night and then you had Missoula afterwards taking the blame but was there anything to base your optimism off of for tonight because I saw nothing so that's what I want to hear no the only thing I'm going off is their talent and what they showed me for the five months of the season and how good they can be when they are dialed on both ends and this is a team that has the capability of being a great defensive team and they're just not doing that like Eddie said they're not executing they're not being aggressive and they have bodies Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum, Marcus Smart these guys should be able to stay in front and be physical with Jimmy Butler they have some guys like Robert Williams and Horford to bang with bam so they have Foster and the personnel to do that and they've showed that they can do it it's a tall task now in Miami we all talk about them they are the tough team they throw the punch first they are first to the floor they do all those physical things that a lot of teams don't like to do and they're making the Celtics pay but yeah it starts with the star players and they have to be better they can't have a six for 18 a five for 19 game from their two stars Malcolm Brogdon has got to contribute it's got to have a collective effort but those two guys Tatum Brown we talk about all your long they're the best duo in the NBA they have to be tonight and they have to be just that for them to have any chance to get this game and kind of extend this series because you're right obviously I've never seen this it's never happened but what a what a snoozefest this would be for both conference finals to be sweeps I know I have like a week and a half off ball Eddie you said Tatum needs to step up tonight in your head what does that even look like I mean we just watched some score 51 points in the game seven a week ago so it looks something like that it looks something like varying the offense a little bit getting getting to that mid range game working on the float not just size of the threes the Celtics are just so stuck in the shooting contested threes no matter what there's aren't good shots I know the math says you need to make as many threes as you can but some of them need to be open as well but I think it's also in the defensive end I think he needs to be one of the people who steps up and says we're gonna lock down Jimmy as best we can one of the guys who needs to be able to go we're gonna close out we're gonna get our rotations right on defense so Max Schrues isn't just killing us on wide open shots so Gabe Vince isn't just killing us on wide open shots so it's it's a collective effort you know but for him specifically he needs to be on both ends he needs to be that superstar player that we all believe he is and I think he can be interested to see if that's what we get though because like I said at the end of game three for all intents and purposes the series looked over they just didn't bring the trophy out just yet so I want to see the Celtics bounce back I don't think they're gonna go I don't I don't I don't think they even care to at this point yeah it's not looking good but maybe there's a little bit of a chance take a quick break when we come back we got a parlay and it's probably gonna hit so stick around running back running back running up running back it's about that time we win the people some money Eddie what do you have for the first leg today I got Gabe Vince I was actually shocked his points was this low maybe they're expecting a huge blowout not playing up he's averaging 17 points a game this series he's more than Jalen Brown so I'm expecting him to hit that again he's 60% in the floor 55% from three it's been ridiculous lot open shots for Gabe tonight seems like a lock Chandler I like that one a lot I'm going to sell I've already issued my apology to Miami I can't these guys laying down and giving up beginning swept they're too good they have the best do in the league go out there prove it get it back to ball I have anything can happen give me Celtics money line I like it it's almost as if you're trying to will it into existence so we got a little more to go longer to be honest with you I like that vibe for you I really do the optimist I have Derek White over two and a half threes I feel like that's doable when he gets hot he gets a couple and three seems like not that hard for him so yeah there's our parlay when yourself some cash money but realistically guys we have another great show tomorrow I can already tell you that we had flea today we have Dwight Howard tomorrow and if Celtics do get swept he's going to be calling for a whole bunch of people to go to Taiwan again so that could happen guys see you tomorrow