 Okay, so what does that sign mean to you there? You have to treat animals equally. So, yeah, so like, whether it's your pet or the animal you eat. So why not eat a dog or why eat a pork? Like, yeah. Do you ever wonder why we eat some animals and why we treat other animals with care like dogs? Yeah, I think it's something to do as a prejudice we have about certain species that are not worth, like, care or love. Do you think both animals are equally worthy of care and affection? Yeah, of course, of course. And, like, pigs are probably smarter than dogs in some ways. Yeah. While, yeah, but I think, like, they all deserve as much love and care. Yeah. Do you personally eat pigs and cows and chickens and lambs? Yeah, I do it, like, everything. I think I ate a dog once when I was in China. Okay. So I treat... I'm not, like, an example of, like, treating animals particularly well, but actually I'm conscious of it. I'm conscious of it. So... I'm not proud. I just... Yeah. It's just like... Yeah, well, I used to eat meat, dairy, eggs, all animals for a long time, too. But an awakening like this, animals should be treated equally. Yeah. It can sort of help you live consistently with your morals. You know what I mean? Like, what you believe is animals should be treated equally, your actions are showing something different when you eat them. Yeah, that's true. With respect like dogs and cats and, you know, elephants and things like that, but the other animals get the rough end of the stick, the lambs, the goats, the chickens, the fish. I try to treat them well, but I'm even conscious of, like, that eating meat, you got to kill it. So it's murder in a way. Yeah. So... That's not treating them well, putting a bolt gun into their head and slicing their throat open. Yeah. Let's just say you had more knowledge on what goes on in these industries and what happens to these animals. If you were educated on all topics, do you think that moving towards veganism is something that you'd consider? Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, like, if it's not necessary for us to do this to animals, then why are we doing it to them for? Like, if we don't need it for our health or to survive. Yeah, why do we do it? I don't know, but it seems like the humans have been eating and killing animals for so long that it just... It became, like, a part of a culture in our... Yeah. Let's just say humans have been doing lots of bad things for a long time. Does that mean we should continue doing them? No, it doesn't mean that we should continue doing them, but we have to think it over, like... So you agree that, you know, if there was a pig here or a cow or a chicken and I was hurting that pig or cow, if I went to slit their throat to eat them, you would feel uncomfortable with that. You wouldn't want me to do it. I wouldn't want you to do it, yeah, for sure. You would go to a restaurant and buy, like, a chicken salad or something, or a steak or a burger without even thinking of what happened to you. Yeah, we don't think of it like that. Best little vegan message on it, against people thinking. Yeah, I wouldn't think about it every time I eat meat, like... How about now, after this conversation, when you think about it a little bit? Yeah, I would think about it more. A 22-day vegan challenge. If after doing your own research and looking into it yourself, you feel like you want to make that next step, then go ahead. Sure. Thanks a lot. Have a great day. Yeah.