 I think this is quite a good lesson in interview, because it starts off really badly. The interviewer here is just doing all the work. He actually got so hurt that he had to go to the hospital. Yeah. So was his shoulder hurt or something like that? Yeah. And the interviewee is just going yes, and yes, and it's pretty monosyllabic about it. So his shoulder got dislocated. Yeah. And he went to the hospital in Vegas. Yeah. That may well be an indicator that he doesn't really want to answer questions that he wants to be avoidant. But when he gets onto the athletics piece. I ran track against Montreal when he ran for Waley. Suddenly, he's moving. Suddenly, everything's flowing. And now the interview is flowing. We're seeing his mood improve. And therefore, if it were me, I'd be going down that route and go, look, let's just get this guy talking more happy to be here, because then we can bring in some questions that he might be more avoidant of. He's now in this pattern of delivering content.