 Are we certified at the plant? Yes, the agenda was posted on the 15th of May at 3.30. Please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the right and to the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. Hi, Smith. Present. Supervisor Gruber. Pardon. Supervisor Schneider. Here. Supervisor Montemayor. Here. Supervisor Clark. Here. Supervisor Nelson. Here. Supervisor Procek. Present. Supervisor Kacz. Here. Supervisor Schauber. Here. Supervisor Dauer. Present. Supervisor Jarkensen. Here. Supervisor Liegelbauer. Here. Supervisor Nene. Here. Supervisor Abler. Here. Supervisor Kulow. Here. Supervisor Dan. Here. Supervisor Weichner. Here. Supervisor Imel. Here. Supervisor O'Jay. Hello. Supervisor Hoffman. Here. Supervisor Hilberg. Here. Supervisor Bosman. Here. Supervisor Belvin. Here. Supervisor Gary. Here. Supervisor Distribute. Here. All right. 25 supervisors present. Thank you. The next item of business is a pool of the April 28th, 2020 journal. Supervisor Brower. Motion to approve. Thank you, Supervisor Brower. Supervisor Weigman. Second. Thank you, Supervisor Weigman. Is there any discussion? Okay. All those in favor of the April 28th journal signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Consideration of appointments by chairperson. Could we, we would like to approve them as listed. Is there a motion for that? Supervisor Weigner. I move for approval. Thank you, Supervisor Weigner. Supervisor Hibbelink. Support. Thank you, Supervisor Hibbelink. Is there any discussion? Okay. Then all those in favor of the appointments by chairperson. Please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Next item of business is the consideration of appointments by county administrator as listed on the agenda. Is there a motion to approve these? Supervisor Imel. I make a motion to approve, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Supervisor Imel. Supervisor Nelson. I second that motion. Thank you, Supervisor Nelson. Is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, all those in favor of the appointments by the county administrator say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Presentation. Todd Richter from the Veterans Service Officer. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to give you a quick presentation on the Veterans Service Office. Adam asked me to keep it short so I cut it down to 30 slides and I should have you out in about 45 minutes. That works with you. Perfect. Real quick, we can go to the next slide. I'm Todd Richter. I'm your Veterans Service Officer. A little bit of information about me. I did serve in the United States Navy and the United States Army retiring back in 2016. I did two tours through the Persian Gulf, two tours through Iraq, and one through Afghanistan. The support staff we have is my senior benefits specialist, Craig Stewart. He's been with the county for 17 years. He was a Coast Guardsman from 97 to 2003. And just recently, in the last year, we picked up Jonathan Belville, who was also a Coast Guardsman who served from 2000 to 2009. Next slide, please. As you can see, we have one of the smaller budgets in the county. We have a normal budget of $293 for the office and approximately $21,000 for our service commission. In 2018, we brought in over $36 million of revenue to Sheboygan County through state and federal funds. You might be wondering why its 2018 numbers were showing and not 2019. Due to the COVID, normally the prior year's information is listed, but this is the most recent that they have. Next slide, please. In 2018, our veteran population was just a little over 6,900 veterans for Sheboygan County. And when you take into consideration, most of them have a spouse. We're looking at approximately 14,000 veterans and their families that we're serving. Through nutrition and death, we lost a couple hundred veterans who went to the great beyond and our last numbers that were posted were just over 6,700. So again, we're serving over 12,000 veterans and their families in Sheboygan County. Next slide. You can see the 72 counties of Wisconsin and the 11 tribes. It is a state mandate and state statute that there is a county veteran service officer in every county of Wisconsin. This is actually fantastic news because there's a lot that we can do throughout the state working with the other service officers in the other counties to help a lot of veterans. There are some states out there that do use regionalized benefits and they find that it's tougher to do that because of travel and age and health of the veterans that they serve. Next slide, please. Quick overview of the veteran benefits. There's three pillars to veterans benefits. There's education, health, and monument services. We're fortunate that we have two major hospitals in Wisconsin, one being close to Milwaukee. And we have a Cleveland out-based patient, also known as a CBOC, where we can go see our primary care physician and what we like to call advanced mandates. So if we've got a cold or flu or something minor that we can just go to Cleveland and do it. Otherwise, we'll get sent to one of the VA hospitals and if they can't do it in a timely manner. Under one of the new programs that came out, we can actually go to a local physician or a specialist to get the treatment at the cost to the VA. Compensation is kind of our bread and butter of what we do in our office. That comes in two forms of service-connected compensation and non-service connected. The big ones we see are the compensation that come from members of the military that are injured or have some sort of injury while they're on active duty and is affecting them post-service time. Another big one that we have is our non-service connected pension. We generally see those in our elderly patients or elderly veterans. They're usually living at or near poverty and they need some extra assistance and help that the VA can give them. We do have state cemeteries that we use that you can pre-register so you can get your loved ones in there and minimize the effect and time that it takes to get all this to happen. And this also works on the federal level too. So if you know of any veterans out there that are thinking they may want to be buried in a veteran's cemetery, it would be good for them to get in contact with our office because we can help them with the state and federal side. GI Bill, education benefits. This is a big one. There's a lot that goes into it and these rules are always changing. So if you know of a veteran that has recently discharged or within the last 15 years, I would encourage you to have them reach out to us and find out what benefits there are. In certain scenarios, if you're service connected with a 30% or higher, that will actually open up benefits to not only the veteran but the spouse and any dependent children. And that's good for any UW school or any technical school. Next slide, please. The other facet of our office is the Veterans Service Commission. Again, state statute says that every county will have one, and it will be made up of at least three commissioners. Our commissioners for the county are Jennifer Samson. She's a Navy veteran and a small business owner. Michael Bairinger, Air Force veteran, and he was retired from the Shboyka Police Department due to a work-related injury. And we have Alan Nol, and he's a Vietnam-era veteran. What our service commission does is pretty intricate, and at the surface, the big areas we cover are homelessness or about to be homeless, food and gas cards for those that are struggling, and some rent assistance. Over the last few months, you can imagine we haven't been that busy with the commission with all the funding that's out there. But once this comes into play and they lift more moratoriums, our office is going to get busy with this budget. Next slide, please. Some additional resources that we use, and they're not limited just to these resources, is the Wisconsin Department of Veterans Affairs. There are big state entities for veterans programs and affairs. One particular program we use is called the VORC program. And in a 10,000-foot overview, that program helps veterans that may need AOD treatment in-patient type services, but may not be eligible for VA health care. And if you can believe it or not, if you know a veteran, not every veteran is eligible for VA health care. So then we lean on these other sources. A lot of community partners that we use are the Salvation Army, our local Veterans Service organizations, our Aging and Disability Resource Center from Sheboygan County, and Heat for Heroes. Next slide, please. Another facet that our office works in is with the Sheboygan Area Veterans Treatment Court. It was actually started September 11, 2012, and that was the day that the first court was in session, and it was merely by accident that it was actually on 9-11. The team that meets weekly are all volunteers and volunteer their time to the court and its members. We meet monthly right now for our actual court session, but we meet once a week as a team to discuss the progress of the veterans that are in. There's multiple eligibility, but the biggest criteria is there must be a veteran with some sort of treatable condition that we can do. Now, a treatable condition doesn't mean you have to be enrolled in VA health care. We are partnering with other outside agencies to try and meet the needs of the court and, more importantly, meet the needs of the veteran that's struggling. We have four phases that we go through with the veterans, and they're each different timeframes that they have to meet certain goals and achievements in order to be eligible to move to the next phase. The veterans are actually monitored and tested based on what their needs are and why they're in court and whatever brings them to court. Some of the service organizations that we use that are in the area, and some have regionalized because of the membership getting smaller and it's harder to recruit, but the retired enlisted association is one of them, and it's self-explanatory. You have to be a retiree and they're loosening those reins up because not everybody goes in and retires. The veterans are foreign wars. In order to be eligible for that, you have to actually have served in a designated area of operations, not just in support of the American Legion. They just went through a big change in Congress. They actually had their charter changed and it took a congressional body to do this. So their eligibility is essentially anybody who served from World War II to current. And then we have the Disabled American Veterans. Those are one of the ones that are regionalized because the numbers are so small, and you have to have some sort of disability in order to be affiliated with them. Next slide, please. One of the big things that we focus on in our office is what we're doing in the community, how we're updating the community, and what sort of outreach can we do to get this information out in the community. A couple of years ago, Craig Stewart and myself sat down and said, these benefits are changing so drastically and the word isn't getting out, so what can we do? So quarterly, we meet with all the commanders of the service organizations or their designees and go over the current issues that are changing, how they are changing, how they're affected, or who might be affected by it. We've currently been trying to get out to all the posts in Sheboygan County to do these presentations to their bodies, because we don't want every member of every service organization to come to our commander's call. Otherwise, we'd be having regular service organization meetings and probably need two theaters this size to get everybody in. Community outreach, it takes many forms. One of the big things we've been able to do as of late is get out to our veterans that are either in nursing homes or has some physical difficulties or abilities to try and get to our office. So because of technology, we are able to go to the veteran and help get claims processed move a little bit faster. Next slide. One of the final slides we have is I was hoping to have a lot of information on different events going on in the county for Memorial Day, but due to COVID, everything has been canceled. Next slide. And the big thing I want to point out here is for those that don't know because we still hear it, is that we are actually located in the Aging and Disability Resource Center in Sheboygan Falls. Right now, we ask that if you have an issue that you please call. If it's an emergent issue, we'll get you in and we'll keep you safe and we'll work the problem. Otherwise, we're trying to do it by email, fax, mail mail. Any way we can be effective and get it done. But if it's a time sensitive matter, we definitely want to get you in the office so we can get the service that you need. Any questions? That is my 45-minute presentation. All right, thank you. Thank you, Todd. Public addresses for this evening? We have one at Jain School Pack from Sheboygan Falls. Come on up. Good evening. I'm going to read a little bit here and then I'm going to add a little bit since it's changed, okay? Yesterday, I was contacted by many friends, neighbors, and business associates in regards to Sheboygan County passing legislation that would declare a state emergency in Sheboygan County. This raises some serious concerns to Sheboygan County residents and our businesses. As you know, with our March 12th, 2020, Governor Evers, on behalf of the State of Wisconsin, declared the existence of a public health emergency known as COVID-19 now, and the order was issued and referred to as state home order. This caused disorder was originated from empirical data modeling that was supported and promoted by the World Health Organization. As we know now and are continuing to learn, the data modeling was greatly inaccurate, so much that President Trump has halted funding to the WHO in the midst of the pandemic. Furthermore, the state home order by Governor Evers expired and additional measures attempted were struck down by the Supreme Court, ultimately lifting the state home order and ending the state of emergency as it is. At this time, there is no state of emergency as it relates to the COVID-19 in Wisconsin. As of May 14th, 2020, Wisconsin had 11,275 confirmed cases. Sheboygan County had 70 confirmed cases with 10 still active, and there were three reported deaths. The population of Sheboygan County is 115,340 according to the U.S. Census. So this is very important. According to the census, 70 cases thus far would represent .0006 of the population as being confirmed to have had the virus known as COVID-19. Three deaths is three too many for any reason. However, that is .0002% of the population. So at what point do we all agree that the cure cannot be worse than the disease? Our residents' mental health should be of our primary concern after viewing the data. The suicide rate has nearly doubled during this pandemic, and further mental illness is spreading out at a rapid pace, not including drug overdoses. Not being able to exercise, seek preventative treatment, social engagement, and day-to-day routines to keep us at good health for freedoms and established rights suspended during this crisis. The crisis is over, at least for now. There's no question that the data is flawed. We must ask our representatives and community leaders to use good judgment, hold community discussions, and do not force a state of fear or panic as we move forward. I'm going to be very transparent. There is no state of emergency in Sheboygan, and any legislation which should suggest otherwise, I implore you to vote no because it does not align with the best interests of our residents and businesses. Frankly, I'm very disappointed that we would promote a state of emergency in our county when there is none present, and that has been clearly defined by law. I question as to where our leaders are getting their information and to how they are processing it. And Chairman, what I'm requesting is that... Chairman, what you are requesting is the unilateral and blanket authority for emergency that doesn't exist, and I encourage you to focus on the well-being of our residents and our businesses, and to be an advocate for Sheboygan County residents. We will find out in the next couple of weeks how we as a population are truly impacted by COVID-19 since the incubation period falls within that timeline. Until then, I implore you to think about the mental health of our community and the great danger of spreading fear by enacting a state of emergency in Sheboygan County when one does not exist. And what I'd like to add to it is I have a marketing agency, and what we do a lot, 90% of my day is spent in Excel sheets. So all the data, everything that you read, I've gone through the data. I ran the data myself, and the data itself is flawed even how it is stipulated. Pneumonia has dropped off the charts, and in place of it has come COVID-19. Thank you very much. So I believe there is definitely a misclassification, and if any of you have looked up the classification for which diagnose it, if you went into the emergency room with a shortness of breath, just came to you today, you would then be classified as COVID-19. If you had just a fever, normally you normally take some aspirin for something like that and relax, you'd be fine. But now you'd be classified as COVID-19. So we don't really have a great way to track this, measure it, and to classify it properly, because this is new COVID-19, but it's not new from the flu and the pandemic and the strains where this originated from. We were told that this was going to be a 4% mortality rate, and it's not even close. And us today, we sit here with these masks on right now, but I don't know how many of you actually know these masks, and actually do no good whatsoever. They prevent nothing at all. Dr. Fauci has even said, gone on record in 60 minutes, that there's no reason to wear a mask. So I want you all to think about it. There's only 10 consequences from the actions that we take, including these masks. Every single one of us right now are breathing carbon monoxide. And we know that's bad and that's horrible for our system. But in turn, we're doing that. All right. So thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Next item of business is letter communications and announcements. This is one item from the Portage County, and it is just noticed that their non-binding referendum in the April ballot regarding redistricting masks be drawn non-partisan was passed. Thank you. We'll accept that for information, seeing as how that's been something we've dealt with a number of times in the past. Governor and Administrator's report. Hey, it's Jeremy. Good evening. When I was with you a month ago, I gave you an update of what the county had been doing over the last six weeks. You'll be pleased to tell that tonight. I'm just going to be talking about the last week. Setting the stage, the public health division put out their daily update today. The Wisconsin confirmed cases for COVID-19. We have 12,885 in Sheboygan County, a total confirmed case of 72. Five active, 64 recovered, three individuals that have passed away, and we've done a total of 2,103, or we have a total of 2,103 tests. Of course, we have a population of about 117,000, so I think most people recognize we need to do far more testing in Sheboygan County throughout the state, throughout the country, and unfortunately that's not happening to the extent that we need to do so. I'm so pleased with the work that our community has done. Since you put the County State of Emergency in a couple of months ago, and since we work collectively in collaboration as a county, a state, a country, following federal guidance, state guidance, our public health guidance, we have really done a remarkable job holding the line on positive cases. We've never had more than 20 positive cases over the course of the last two months, and again today we're at five. So that's a real credit to our community as a whole, and it's one of the reasons why we came out with guidelines or recommendations rather than orders, but I'll touch on that more in a moment. But I'm so pleased with the work that our community has done. Statewide we've seen 459 deaths, and across the United States we've seen 91,582, and we all know that's going to continue to increase. The past few days have been a whirlwind, and when the Supreme Court took its action on May 13th, I think for many of us it was disappointing on a larger scale that the state couldn't work in collaboration to have clear guidance. Leadership struggled, whether Republican or Democrat, to come together and provide clear guidance and speak with one voice. And during a health pandemic you'd like to think that could happen. It didn't. We anticipated the possibility that state guidance would change or that the state would drop the ball in the laps of local units of government across the state. And so we were preparing or started preparing the week before on guidelines because we anticipated that would probably be the most appropriate way to proceed, particularly with the excellent job we've been doing as a community, as businesses, as individuals, holding the line on positive cases and acting appropriately to safeguard ourselves and our neighbors and friends. So when the Supreme Court took action or ruled on May 13th, it was just 24 hours later that we distributed a news release to the community saying that we would be sharing safe start recommendations the following day, but that as a result of the good work in this community, we would not be issuing any order to direct how businesses or organizations operate. And immediately I think there is a fair amount of appreciation for that guidance because our phones were ringing out the hooks. What's the county going to do? Are they going to extend the order like some of the other counties did? What are we going to do? And we very quickly told the community, no, that's not our plan. We'll be coming out with guidance. So I think we all know in this room that it is that we lead and that we focus on the facts and that we try to address uncertainty as much as possible. And so I was so pleased within 24 hours we said we would not be putting an order in place. The next day, we delivered as promised. We provided Sheboyin County safe restart guidelines and recommendations for action. Not an order, not requirements. In fact, they can't be enforced. They're guidelines, they're recommendations. And the feedback was very positive. I don't know about you, but I received a lot of positive accolades from businesses, owners, and others. Thank you for the guidelines. Thank you for the approach you're taking. In fact, State Representative Terry Cotsman included in his update that he appreciated and gave a shout out to Sheboyin County for the approach we took. How decisively we reached out to the community and that we took the appropriate approach of guidelines. Some of the other counties in the state that have more positive cases than we do put orders in place and subsequently rescinded them because of some of the uncertainty of well, what did the Supreme Court order meet for? State public health versus local public health officers again kind of led to more uncertainty and angst in their communities. I really think we took the right approach. We're relying on individual responsibility. We're relying on businesses and community leaders and everyone in this room. Everyone in Sheboyin County to be mindful of their health and their neighbors and their friends and the people they interact with. That's what we're doing. And I really think most people are going to be mindful. Our veteran service officer up here talking about our veterans and I thought, you know, how appropriate. Many of them gave the ultimate sacrifice in times of need. Spent Lord knows how many months, years away from their family and friends because of service above self protecting their community. We've been in this battle for 60 days. A lot of people have passed away 60 days. Feels longer. Sometimes I wonder how our veterans look at this from a standpoint of the sacrifices and what they did for their country. It's just interesting to think about. As Todd mentioned, they themselves have already taken action to cancel some events. We didn't direct that. Veterans organizations are doing that on their own. I wonder why. Because they know the pandemic is not over. And because they know if people start congregating in large groups we're probably going to see a spike in COVID and people are going to get sick and some people are going to die. So I compliment them for their leadership and being mindful of others. So we put these guidelines out and again the feedback has been positive. Within it we talk about cases and that the fact that they're going down certainly have been steady in Sheboygan County which is wonderful but seeing a trend in the state where we're flattening that curve testing continues to be a problem. This actually frustrates me that we're not where we need to be with testing. We can better manage the situation and give people peace of mind the more we can test. We can get people back into the workforce more, the more we can test. We need to do more testing and we're not where the President of the United States or other leaders are saying anyone can get a test anytime they want. We're not there yet. And we have one hospital or one public health provider providing criteria and testing that may be more broad or open than another. We're not where we need to be there. We need to improve. Certainly our hospitals are in a much better position to help people in need. Much better position and personal protective equipment which the county has really taken a strong leadership role in providing and coordinating. We're in much better position there as well. But not ideal. We're in that 8 to 28 day range. Not a month or more. And anyone who is a direct care provider you know personally how important that personal protective equipment is and how quickly you go through it. If you're in a nursing home or assisted living facility or facility where you need that. Emergency responders and healthcare providers have died in this country helping people in need because of COVID. Don't tell me it's not serious. And of course tracing is so important. Contact tracing. We have to be able to do that effectively. Unfortunately our public health department has beefed that up a little bit from 8 employees to 12 employees. We've hired some limited term employees. That's getting better. In fact it's pretty strong right now and I hope it stays that way. So we've done some good things and we need to continue to be mindful and vigilant and encourage the community to seriously consider these guidelines and make individual decisions business by business decisions of what they can do to protect their staff and customers alike. So that was last week. It was last week Thursday Friday. Here we are today this evening where we decide to extend or suggest to extend the state of emergency in Chaboy County. I know that that's probably not the best title. I agree. I agree. When we put this in place two months ago almost exactly what you have before you tonight I think it was unanimous in this room and I don't think we heard a peep from anyone in the community about it. In fact my vet is most people in the community didn't even know you put in a county emergency order. I think what happened in the last 24 hours is after the Supreme Court action and all the focus on orders to stay at home all of a sudden the community, some members of the community see this about overextending something potentially 60 days are they putting in a stay at home order here or are they once again not going to let businesses open couldn't be farther from the truth. We all know that in this room. Many people in the community know it and I can assure you of all the people that called me and emailed me yesterday and there were a lot and I know you dealt with this as well in just about every single instance when I forwarded them the explanation for what it is we're doing and why almost in every instance I got a response saying thank you make sense, keep up the good work it's an opportunity to explain some information so why is this extension important we're still in the midst of a health pandemic doesn't stop at the county line still happening across the country I don't think there's I don't think there's a downside making sure the community continues to be aware we have a health crisis going on with COVID-19 and we've yet to come up with a final solution we need to be vigilant one of the reasons we initially passed the emergency county emergency declaration emergency is it makes us eligible for state and federal funding pretty important we're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars responding to COVID-19 and the state of emergency the county state of emergency makes us eligible to continue to receive their reimbursement I am not 100% certain passing it again does that we passed it once but based on what happens at the state and federal level I think I'd rather err on the side of having it in place and making sure that we're eligible for those funds it authorizes the county administrator to make expenditures as necessary for the health, safety, protection and welfare of the community for example purchasing personal protective equipment through your authority and support we have purchased $100,000 of personal protective equipment we gave our CNAs a rockinola dollar in our increase so we could fill 10-12 positions before we saw potentially a surge there we have made other benefit changes to do contact tracing at public health for example so at this point we've spent $300,000 of the $500,000 range that you provided two months ago and what you have before you tonight it's the same number we're not talking about another $500,000 it's the same aggregate number so we would have $200,000 of flexibility to continue to purchase things probably like personal protective equipment if we have one nursing home and the facility gets hammered it's going to require a lot of personal protective equipment and I just know our emergency management director is going to be involved with helping with that it acknowledges the county board support for the Sheboygan county safe restart recommendations guidelines it acknowledges your support those guidelines can't be enforced they're recommendations and then finally if in the event we experience a surge in COVID-19 if our hospitals get overrun let's be prepared let's be poised to respond as quickly as possible I've been working for you for 21 years I'm not going to start making rash decisions they're doing something unusual but if we need personal protective equipment or we need LTEs or we need to make some changes I want to thank our committee and the finance committee and the executive committee and pull a county board meeting together I'm going to keep all those folks informed as I have been but it allows us to respond more quickly as needed if it's needed I want to thank and acknowledge Chairman Koch and certainly Supervisor Roger Distruti you have an amendment before you and as I look in the mirror the responsibility that this resolution could have been clear no one looked at it two months ago in the community but now after the Supreme Court action I can see where people are looking at it very carefully and I get that I understand that but it's to do what I just laid out but Roger Distruti suggested that we just absolutely clarify upfront that this resolution is intended to support the opening of businesses, nonprofits and other facilities that are open to the public this resolution does not reinstate Governor Evers safer at home order or include any other new orders or restrictions on individuals, businesses or community activities this resolution supports the county administrator and other departments in responding to unanticipated surges in COVID-19 if needed and again the extension of the state of emergency in Chippewa County is not intended to curtail any business church or community activity as I said anyone that I talked to yesterday or sent clarification to they responded favorably we all have a job going forward that's what we're doing right now so as we consider this this evening I think we need to think a little bit about service about self and the fact that we're 60 days into this and this is impacting a lot of people we need to open up we need to get our economy going but let's focus on individual responsibility people being mindful of one another and just and not send a message that this is over and we're out of the woods that's not the right message to send resolutions introduced resolution number one from Connie board chairperson Vernon college regarding extending state of emergency in Chippewa County contemplated action pursuant to rule 13 is anticipated that a motion to withdraw or pull this proposal resolution will be made if by majority of the boards to pull this resolution it will be subject to immediate action Mr. College's request I'm looking for a motion to pull this Supervisor Wagon I move that resolution number one to be pulled for immediate action Supervisor Huffman I second that motion we will vote on that and that vote is not available Supervisor Smith Supervisor Rubin Supervisor Schneider Supervisor Montemayor tell me what this means that we're pulling something so one of the processes we have at the Connie board level when a resolution is introduced it is by Chapter 2 of the County Code referred to a committee the motion to pull allows the County Board to act immediately on it at this meeting as opposed to referring it to a committee thank you alright so it's going to get it's going to get defeated tonight so if something is going to happen on it tonight is this a simple majority Supervisor Montemayor yes Supervisor Clark Supervisor Nelson No Supervisor Crouchak No Supervisor Koch Yes Supervisor Brower Yes Supervisor Ziegelbauer Yes Supervisor Adler Yes Supervisor Dan Yes Supervisor Wagner Yes Supervisor Kimmel No Supervisor OJ Aye Supervisor Hoffman Aye Supervisor Hillbilly No Supervisor Bosman Yes 214 I would like to change my number I just understood it I would like to change my number I know it doesn't change the drawing okay and I will need a motion to approve Supervisor Adler Supervisor Cullo and this is debatable we vote on this first we'll discuss is there any discussion Supervisor Tristruti I have a comment as described and mentioned by Mr. King and it's a sheet that's been handed out and this these bullet points were the four questions that I answered to people that had concerns when they read it read the resolution some of the people at the first time they read it called the resolution because the world goes along and all is well they don't get to concern when it affects their lives they look more closely they saw the the title of the resolution they were confused they didn't understand this amendment is to clarify some of those four points that came up with the people that I talked to Is there a second on this amendment? Supervisor Hoffman Aye so second we vote on the amendment correct? or more discussion I still think it remains what classifies a surge in COVID-19 cases and who gets to determine what that surge looks like and how does it get quantified for raising that question I was going to touch on that during my remarks I do not see a surge as all of a sudden positive cases going up whether it's doubling or tripling our numbers are really in check right now what I would envision as a serious problem where we might have to look at additional approaches as if our hospitals are overrun so I would see a surge in COVID as if our hospitals are overrun and unable to manage the care that they need to provide so if that state of emergency who determines that the hospital is not in the overrun and what steps does the county board then take if that situation occurs what happens then public element we should be discussing the amendment not the motion itself my question stems from the motion from the amendment I'm questioning the terminology public health has been doing an outstanding job I haven't heard anybody in this room say they haven't been doing an outstanding job I haven't heard anybody in this community say they haven't been doing an outstanding job they are working very closely with the hospitals and all the health care providers on monitoring this and managing this and working in collaboration as soon as they sense or know that we're seeing a surge of such an extent that our hospitals and health care providers and emergency responders are being overrun all of us in this room are going to know it the community is going to know it and public health has responsibility under states to add to this to help manage that situation but I anticipate that if we get to that point I think that the full board is going to be weighing in it if we have to do anything different than guidelines my hope is that situation never occurs and these guidelines will be more than sufficient I'm going to step away because you're discussing an amendment Supervisor Nelson I just want to compliment the people that were responsible for this amendment to ask for clarifies certain parts of the resolution some questions thank you it's OG back here I can't see go ahead I would just like to remind everyone especially the new members of the board the wear as clauses have no key we can say whatever we want and the wear as is the their parts that come out so this well it can be good to explain to people can't be used to say you can't do this because this is telling us you can't wear as is just don't have that authority Supervisor OJ I don't know if I have a letter to read but I don't know if it's appropriate to do it now or wait until the next discussion I don't have I don't have to wait thank you is there any other discussion Supervisor Dam we would like to have the person that's speaking turn around and use all of us I could partly hear the gentleman that was asking a question so they can speak up for turn around and say great thank you thank you is there any other discussion being none Supervisor Smith and the amendment to to the resolution oh no no Supervisor Gruber yes Supervisor Schneider yes Supervisor Clark yes yes Supervisor Couch yes yeah Supervisor Brower yes Supervisor Jorgensen yes yes yes yes yes yes no okay Supervisor Hoffman yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes thank you I'm going to be voting against this which I feel funny weird to vote but two months ago we didn't know what was happening we didn't know what was going on now our state isn't in a state of emergency sort of clicking sort of on Unfortunately, the language of state of emergency troubles me in guidance as Adam was talking about. Guidance doesn't require a state of emergency. We can give the community that guidance without having a state of emergency declared. My question would be, what does a state of emergency give us that we otherwise wouldn't have? And I'm not talking about while it's more convenient if you have a state of emergency, what things are triggered by state of emergency that we don't have access or the ability to do without. And then the last point I want to make is we keep talking about we're not doing a state of home order, but the last, therefore a great result from what I understand and from looking at what chapter 252 of the statute actually says would give the way we have it worded the local public health officer the ability to do that without coming to us. And to me a state of home order is a very political decision. Anything that affects people's lives to that degree while it may be public health is also very political. And at that point I wouldn't be able to tell people we didn't do it because by this action at some point if the doubling of cases, if all of a sudden we have 10 active cases, is that a surge? I don't know who gets to decide that, because it wouldn't be coming to us. This clearly gives the local public health official the ability to enact things according to chapter 252, which does include stay at home. So that's my issue. Can everyone hear me okay? No. Okay. All right. There's really two parts to your question as I understood it. The first was what do we gain by adopting an extension to the state of emergency? And I think your county administrator outlines some of those things. What it really does is it allows the county, through the county administrator to react quickly to a change in circumstances that might arise or a surge as we're referring to it as. And normally we have our processes that require committee approval for certain actions. Normally if there was an addition to health and human services, the LTEs that are added on normally that's something that would be run through the HR committee, for example. So it is allowing us to take action more quickly in the event that it's necessary and seen as a benefit to the public good for the health and safety of the residents of Sheboygan County. So there is a lot of discretion left to the county administrator in making that determination. And as your county administrator mentioned, this has been in place for 60 days. And so I think at this point you probably have a flavor of some of the types of actions that are being taken pursuant to that state of emergency authority. And the second part of it, as I understood the question, related to the public health officer and the safer at home. And we do have the Supreme Court decision that outlines the trouble with the safer at home order as the court saw it. And that was part of Chapter 252. So there is language in your resolution tonight that shows that the county board is in support of the local public health officer. But it's different at the county level than at the state level. And our local public health officer has rights and certain authority given to her under Chapter 252 that are independent of the county board. So with the Supreme Court decision, we saw a discussion on rulemaking in Chapter 227 and how the legislature needed to be involved in that decision to issue the safer at home order. Certainly that's not something that's being discussed at the county level at this point. But there are independent authority. There is that the public health officer does have under Chapter 252. And certainly she's been working closely with other county officials and county leadership to make sure that everybody's informed about any actions that public health would be taking. If there's further questions, let me know. You're testing? By not passing this, will that affect our ability to get testing in our community? Should there be a super spreader? Also testing people to see who can work or who pass it? I mean, I think that's important too. By not passing this, I don't think that negatively impacts our ability to purchase testing kits or do more testing. Though if we had a situation where we hit a huge spike, again, God forbid if something happened and none of us are anticipating, don't want to see happen, what if that happens? And we have to purchase more test kits or we have to pull the staff together, need to administer the tests or respond to a situation. This provides greater discretion for that to happen. This allows us to respond more quickly. Supervisor Disturbi. I'd like to press Supervisor Koji's point. If it would feel more, everyone would feel more comfortable, is it possible to have, give that authority to the executive committee to act on Adams' recommendation? I believe they would have the ability to call an emergency 24-hour meeting and would that be something that could possibly be put in this resolution to put at ease more people that we could give the support of them? So the authority that the county board is considering granting under Chapter 15 of the county code is part of your county code and it is designating the county administrator as the individual who has the authority to make these decisions. I think that, that so far the county administrator has been working closely with the executive committee and keeping them informed and looking to have some direction from them as far as some of the decisions that he's been making. But a short answer to your question is we would need an ordinance amending the county code to add that authority for the executive committee. Certainly your county administrator can speak more to the open communication between the executive committee and the administrator's office, but we would need an amendment to the county code through an ordinance to actually affect that change. All of that point from the legislative stream, would we be allowed to do 15.11 under Section C of our chapter, which would just give the chair, the authority for that 24-hour meeting? So at what time, so at that point let's say that we are in that state of emergency and we need to enact a resolution, like a state of emergency, why couldn't we just put in place in this resolution all the period of all the language and just put it in the fact that we support the chairman having the right to have the chapter 15.11 that allows us to get a call meeting 24 hours and then we can go over and discuss the resolution that would be similar to like a state of emergency one. I still kind of have the same question as I did before and I wasn't recognized. Why are we declaring a state of emergency when we're not doing one? So I mean I think that's, I would be comfortable putting in a 24-hour meeting notice to discuss a resolution to discuss whether we should be in a state of emergency. Am I right or am I reading that completely wrong? Is that what that 15.11 says? I've been printed off if you want to read it first of all. Thank you for providing me a copy of chapter 15 and I had a hard time hearing you do the podium. So maybe you can repeat your point of view. If that 15.11, if I'm reading that correctly or if I'm understanding it correctly, that would give the chairman the authority to call a 24-hour meeting at what time we could discuss a resolution if we were in a situation where COVID had flared up beyond what we anticipated being and then at that point we could discuss being in a state of emergency and then providing the types of things that we're talking about now. So for those of you who may not have heard the question really is can we rely on 15.11 of the county code to call a meeting upon 24 hours to at that point consider a resolution related to the declaration of a state of emergency? Under the Wisconsin statutes we always have the ability upon 24 hours notice of posting the nature of the meeting to have a meeting of the county board. Certainly your county board chairperson has the ability to call a special meeting. We don't necessarily need to rely on the authority in Chapter 15 for that. So while I see that there is some language in Chapter 15, there's also independent authority to call a special meeting to take up certain issues. So again, as I understand it then, why do we need to address this now if it's not an issue now? Why couldn't we wait till we're in a situation where we need to pass something like this and then call a meeting at that point and then discuss? I can't be discussing with the gallery, I'm sorry. I'll take an answer if that question is to me. I mean, I guess the state doesn't have an answer. I mean, do you have the authority to call a 24 hour meeting? I do. But I think that if there is a surge, how many people here could be affected either directly or indirectly, how many people would be able to get show up? Could we even have a forum? We don't know that. So I would rather, to me, preparing to fail is not the answer, you know. There's a lot of conferences. I've been on several meetings through my job, meeting with town boards, meeting with their parents, all via teleconference. There's no reason why we couldn't establish something like that if we were in a state of emergency. We could do a teleconference, we could do a Zoom meeting, we could do a Teams meeting. We don't have to be physically here to speak with each other and communicate with each other. My concern is that the state of emergency includes a lot of power. There's a lot of language in that 252. There's a lot of language in that Wisconsin statute 323. That's very concerning. And it's not something that I wanted to just hand over. Every single constituent I talked to and emailed with had that exact concern. And I understand County Administrator Payne's point where it's not something we'd have to rash, like it wouldn't be a rash decision. But the second we hand that over, it can be a decision that can be made. And I would feel much more comfortable if our constituents feel much more comfortable if we just waited for that surge to be more prevalent. Right now we have five active cases. And I just don't see the state of emergency as it stated in the resolution. Supervisor Imel? Yeah, I just want to echo a little bit about that. I received the letter. I guess I won't read the whole letter just for sake of time, but from a County constituent, Mr. Johnson from Polar, and he brings up a good point. And I've heard this from several constituents as well. In the original order, paragraph three, it says that this does not occur and we experience a surge of cases. Sherwood and County will need no order. Stronger restrictions. I know we thought of this a little bit, but what metrics would determine the spike? Who makes the decisions? What restrictions will be implemented? You know, that's... Yeah, that's a big thing that I just heard from a lot of constituents is what metrics would determine that? What accounts to the spike? And I guess that's a vague question, but I'm just concerned about that. I don't know. I'm still so new. Me too. So, I represent District Three. I can say in the opposite direction that I have heard from constituents who are very much concerned about the lifting of the Supreme Court's action from the state about lifting the same home directive or order that people are very much concerned about the cases that could be that aren't being tested. I do sit in on the Monday morning public health meetings that are on 7.30 on every Monday morning where we go through the discussions about PPE. We go through the discussions about what's happening in the communities. We are talking about the lack of testing that is in the community right now and hearing it directly from physicians in this area that are very concerned about the inability to get adequate testing. And that is a true concern. So, I also sit just newly on the Health and Human Services Commission or committee. I don't know always the right words. And I know for a fact through that how hard people are working to make sure that they are making sound decisions without affecting negatively businesses. My role, previous role as the director of senior services for the city of Sheboygan, my constituents and my participants at the senior center are the most vulnerable people in the county. And we have over 9,000 older adults, 65 and older, in the city of Sheboygan, not just the county. We have an aging population. I have a direct response and concern for the very people that we serve in that and looking to make sure that they are safe with regards to our neighbors. So, I understand that businesses have been affected negatively. I understand that tremendously. We're concerned about that in all ways. I don't feel that or think, I should say, that this order or guidance is going to harm anyone in the sense of we're not stopping businesses. It allows people to act quickly. If you've paid attention to what happened at Sunny Ridge, that was something that happened quickly. That response that could happen quickly saved people. And I'm profoundly concerned about the lack of concern for people who are elderly. We have a right and we serve people, and I'll even speak to Supervisor Imel, who serves on the Board of Generations. We're concerned about elderly individuals. And we have a great deal of those individuals in our community. So, what I'm trying to say is that there's two sides to this. It is business, but it's also life. And you don't get your life back. You can work for your business back, but you don't get your life back. Supervisor Hiddleway. So much of the feedback I received from constituents was, even after I explained it, I appreciate my conversation with Adam. It brought me some clarity on some of the fine points and what we're doing here. And I appreciate his data. I appreciate Mr. Disturdee's amendment, as it does make it very clear what we're doing. The problem is the fear is out in the Bay. There's a lot of people. A lot of the feedback I received was, I don't want to open my business. And in two weeks, I could let everyone go. In this case, there's just that little bit of a spectra angle. Frankly, people are sick of being imposed upon having to stay home. I understand the health concerns. I understand Adam's point about staying in line for state and federal dollars. I understand all of this. It's just, unfortunately, due to really nobody's fault, just probably bad communication in terms of the original releases. The fear is kind of out that we need to be doing something that could pose businesses again. The only thing, and this kind of came to me as I was sitting here thinking, could we extend this 30 days instead of another 60, and revisit it in 30 days? That might be a compromise that we could all live with. I appreciate the concern about the elderly. A lot of things have happened with how we shop now. Mr. Nelson and I were talking about the fact they're enjoying very much, being able to just pick up their food at the grocery store now after they've ordered. A lot of things that have happened make this probably a lot safer for the elderly amongst us. I do have a bigger concern. I don't think working to get a business back is as easy as everyone thinks that a lot of dollars were spent on maybe employing people for a while and they had to be released in the end. I just really feel like we have to either say no to this or shorten the line. Is that a motion that you're making? I would make that motion, yes. Supervisor Nelson. First, is there a second on that motion to shorten it? Supervisor Gruber seconds. That is under discussion. The amendment of sharpening it to 30 days. Supervisor Jarvis. I have a question. I wasn't here to let a talent for the prior discussion so I'm repeating something that apologize. But just as clarification for what can occur under this Section 1511 we were talking about before, but now I'm referring to Section 1512 because it kind of relates to what he's saying. In there it says that the duration of a state of emergency shall not exceed 60 days as to an emergency resulting from an accident or 30 days as to emergencies resulting from natural or mandate disasters. How did we get to 60 days as our standard is my question and I'm sure somebody's got an answer for that. That's just what I wanted to ask at this point in time based on what is being proposed. And I'm aware of the language in the code that you're referring to and I think that those are very defined terms. Clearly we don't have any action here. And I think it's less clear whether this is a some sort of disaster situation. So my interpretation of that is that we don't have we're not falling into any of those categories. What we have is a really unique situation. A novel virus that's entered our community and so therefore we don't have any of those applicable limits that are listed in that statute. The statutes themselves say that the authority comes from the projected amount of time that we can anticipate that this might last in the community. I would also remind the board that you do have the ability to rescind this as well. So at the next county board meeting you do have the ability if it's on the agenda of course to take action to modify the order if that's appropriate. So it can be of a length of time under state law that we expect this situation will continue. We are operating our Chapter 15. Those specific time limits that you referenced in my opinion are not applicable to our COVID-19 situation. Nelson? Well, if I understand the procedure so far we're going to be voting on the amendment to make it from 60 to 30 days, is that correct? That's correct. And I think that's in material to the people of our county how can I say the cat is out of the bag they do that 30 days, 60 days. The fear is trumping the facts in some ways. And so quite frankly it's going to be anything but it will be the 60 days because unfortunately the words have power and the power in the words of state of emergency. It's unfortunate that we have to use that description. I assume that's a statutory necessity to use the words of state of emergency. But anyway I'll be voting on the amendment because 30 days, 60 days doesn't matter but people are using the change how people are thinking. More discussion on 30-day amendment Mr. Emel? Yeah, I've got a discussion. Goodbye, is there a velvet? I think we all need to remember what Crystal said that we do have the option to rescind this should we feel it's not necessary. Just because we adopted or we go up to pull in for 60 days doesn't mean we're tied into that we do have the option to rescind it. Yes, I think my concern is if we switch from 60 to 30 we'll be lacking some consistency. I think that the community right now wants to see us we probably have access to more information. I think when we're communicating with our constituents it's probably really important to convey confidence in these hired staff that we have in our health services. We bought them time. They're looking at how many beds we have. In order to administer these tests that we don't have you need PPE to do that. It's that contagious. So I think we need to display confidence that we are right now in between two pretty big hotspots in Milwaukee and Brown County. So we need to be agile. We have to believe in these people that we hired to do a good job and offer consistency. Is there any more discussion on 30 day supervisor? Yeah, could you tell us who determines what's on the agenda? Since we've been told it can be put on the agenda next month and if both of you want to do it then who actually decides what's on the agenda? Thank you. How many board chairs does have the authority on the board? Great, but the rest of us don't. That's what I'm getting at. You have the sole authority to determine the agenda. If there was a request then I would believe I would put it on. And I believe you would too but that doesn't change the fact that the actual authority put it on the agenda lies with you. Is there any other discussion on the 30 day supervisor? I can answer the agenda question. So under rule 2.05 we have any matter which can be presented to the clerk's office if it's desired to be placed on the agenda so your county board chair does have the authority over the agenda but as I understand it there have been situations where a supervisor can add something to the agenda. Normally all of these things go through the committee so this is very rare that we would have a situation where something isn't presented to the committee but certainly if your committee takes some action and it then would be placed on the agenda through the resolution process. Your discussion on the change to 30 days is seeing none will vote on that. All right. Supervisor Smith? No. Supervisor Gruber? Yes. Supervisor Schneider? No. Supervisor Montenegro? No. Supervisor Clark? No. Supervisor Nelson? No. Supervisor Procek? No. Supervisor Koch? No. Supervisor Schober? Is this like 30 days again? Yes, yes. No. Supervisor Brower? No. Supervisor Jorgensen? No. Supervisor Ziegelbauer? No. Supervisor Nenek? No. Supervisor Abler? No. Supervisor Kulow? No. Supervisor Dan? No. Supervisor Weidner? No. Supervisor Emel? No. Supervisor Oji? Aye. Supervisor Hoffman? No. Supervisor Hilbeling? Yes. Supervisor Bosman? No. Supervisor Veldman? No. Supervisor Gherian? No. Supervisor Tostruti? No. Motion does not pass. We're back to discussion on the resolution and the first amendment, which includes the first amendment. Supervisor Emel? Yes, so I guess two other things I didn't bring up before. I'm kind of worried how this will affect future county budgeting when we will get the budget going forward. And then I think I think I've brought it up before by going through the channels that we weren't to go with the extension of the order that we would go through the different committees and then the full county board to allocate those funds. Is that correct? Did we discuss that? That was an option. Instead of like, doesn't the declaration automatically give discretionary funding to add up rights instead of an option would be to go through like the committees? Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. I did just make that up then. I'm more, I would be more in favor of that option but yeah, that's all I have to say. Supervisor Jarvis? I just have a question and it's kind of a point board question. Are we now discussing the amendment and then later discuss the actual? We're discussing the actual resolution with the original amendment. Did we pass the amendment? I mean, yes. Supervisor Nelson? Well, obviously I'm conflicted. Got more phone calls, like everyone got more phone calls, got more emails on anything since Sunday Ridge, when we sold Sunday Ridge. I think the amendment to this goes a long way to clarifying it. I originally, as you noted, voted no for pulling this for this very reason. I mean, where we could be perceived as cobbling out a resolution bit by bit in that distance and track that rather than having gone through the usual procedure of having a committee where everyone can come to the committee meeting and have their say and talk about amendments et cetera at that point. But that's all water with the dam. At this point, I am going to vote in favor of this, although I am, as I say, disappointed in the name of it. I wish we could somehow make it clear to people that we will be dealing with recommendations unless it is a dire situation. The other thing you really, really need to discuss with our constituency, whether through the media or what, about, again, personal responsibility. I have a responsibility to keep myself safe. I also have a responsibility to keep my neighbors safe. And everyone has to be thinking in that frame of mind. And I know it's going to be difficult for businesses if they can only operate at 25% and stuff like that. The world is changing. Supervisor Hillbill ain't mentioned that my wife now, she always shops online. She shops at the grocery store online. And actually, that's a benefit because then we don't have to buy extra junk. But anyway, I'll be voting for it. But in my mind, it's too bad. It's getting so convoluted in here on this discussion. Supervisor Olson. Thank you. This, I think the problem, the conflict that some of us have with this, I think everyone in here agrees that we should give guidance to the community on what to do. And I don't think anybody has a problem with Adam having the ability to do what he needs to do, to have people in their nursing home or to have money for PPE. It's the other stuff that's stuck in there that is unclear or can possibly give power where we don't want power to be or doesn't give us any authority to determine whether it's good or bad to do something at that point. That, to me anyway, kind of overwhelms the good that's in this resolution. And it's unfortunate. I would love to vote yes for half of it and no for half of it, but that'd be a whole lot more amendments that would be here all night. Any other discussion? Mr. Jargotson. First of all, I want to compliment Adam and the staff. I think what they came up with as far as these guidelines, the force of orders and anything like that is really the best possible answer. I think it meets all of our needs. There are people that are concerned, not concerned at different levels, whatever, but they're all concerned just with different facets to it. The actions we've taken so far, Adam and the other staff, it's $500,000 authorization. I mean, I'm sure it's perfect that I don't have a question, and I don't think I would have a question if that number were twice that big. So that portion of the amendment I don't, of the document I don't think caught me up. The part that I am hearing from my constituents, and I'm one of these people as well over that 65 mark period, I'm one of these people, so I'm hearing from both them and younger people, but the issue is we have a state of emergency. We have the ability under this 15, Chapter 15 in our organisms to let the chairman be clear that we want to have a meeting and we can zoom and talk within 24 hours or 40, whatever would need to be done. And the real question is, should we not create a state of emergency over something that isn't here right now? We have nobody in the hospital, and should we just keep our collar a little dry and be very willing to say yes on such a, if we get such a notice, and therefore what that would mean was just take that state of emergency out of this resolution and leave the rest of it in place. I don't think that, if I understand it right, that 252 authority in the last, whereas Branson, a new authority, doesn't, it really just reflects that we should report it. So again, it's just a support for our people that are doing good work. So what this leads me to is, I would like to, if we could explore and hear what other people would say, but the idea of just eliminating the state of emergency and letting us come back and do that on short notice, if we have to, we're not in the 1850s where we have to get in our horses, but we'd come to a meeting. We've been doing a little better anyway, but that's just about there, but I really, overall, I compliment our staff and Adam in particular. These aren't easy things to do sort of as far as we've got. Supervisor Procek. Thank you, Chairman. I'm going to support the resolution as amended in the fact that my correspondence talking with business people, which I represent several in my district and with my residents in my district, it accomplishes basically everything that they've asked me to accomplish as a County Board Supervisor, but thank you to the administration and to our leadership for coming up with the terms that need to be met. So the other thing being is I would like to ask that somehow, maybe next month, if it's possible, we get a report on what exactly the difference is between state of emergency. I'm going to support this tonight as it is amended, but I would like to know if there actually is something that would be lost if we took that line off of the resolution. God forbid we have to do this again. Someday, maybe not this particular issue, but maybe someday, 15, 20 years from now, I would like to have us clarify exactly what that state of emergency because I do understand the context of that because that is probably the one thing that they brought to my attention was that statement. We have to live with that in order to move forward and I would appreciate some clarification maybe next month. Thank you. Is there any other discussion? I was just going to say rather quickly when I talked to people I heard criticism in some instances of what the state did and some instances of what the federal government did, but I never heard any criticism and maybe that was just me, what the county was doing. I think what the county has been doing, I'll be perfectly honest and I was very involved in that as most of you know, but it was led by Adam, I heard that here and I think we have a 60-day track record about standing performance and I have no reason to doubt that that will not continue. So I am going to strongly support it and I appreciate that the Supervisory Distruty clarified it because that was never what the intention was and I would urge everybody else to go forward. I truly believe that the correct thing would be for sure. Thank you Supervisor Wagner. Is there any other discussion? Supervisor Smith? I just kind of want to circle back to what Supervisor Jones was saying. I would be honest if we didn't try to, I mean, are we open to making that kind of amendment to this resolution, stating what I did earlier or I guess we were saying earlier just saying we just call, keep all the guidelines, our support for the guidelines our support for the recommendations are we able to keep all of that in place, remove the state of emergency context, remove the Chapter 252, remove Chapter 323 of the Wisconsin State Statute that also gives up that same type of authority outside of the county and just state that if something happens if we do become overrun by COVID that we will meet and we will put in place a resolution probably like this one to even just keep on the background. If that's something we could amend this current resolution or establish a new resolution to say that we support our guidelines we support our recommendations like the last week where we haven't had any orders in place we haven't had anything and it's been almost a week now where all we've gone off as a community was our guidelines and our recommendations that were very well put from the county and from the administration so I think that I would like to try and work and get towards that where we can meet on a 24-hour basis to establish a state of emergency at that time I just feel a little short-sighted to establish a state of emergency when there is just not an emergency presence in this word county and I guess it could be a motion for a new resolution I don't have a brick or anything but I guess the motion would be or a resolution would be just to maintain our current resolution it could be a new resolution because it has to be close to the agenda so it has to be a motion for this resolution okay so I would like to cite then I guess I mean how do we get to that point how do we move on that language state of the mind that has it in there and propose that as a motion I'm still going to point to order that but it's still not the existing resolution I would suggest just pointing against the resolution alright thank you thank you Supervisor Jarvis just to try to make it clear and not all of this mishmash of the different words would your motion be or would it be that we just exclude but delete lines 44 and 48 which is what declares the state of emergency in place because there I don't think there's a lot of I think we have to go back to line 4 and that's when we start talking about the state of emergency language excuse me I'm sorry I'm sorry yes Supervisor Gehring I'm sorry I didn't see you I look upon this as something that we're probably never going to have to but I look upon this as something that we might have to go to war a battle tomorrow if you want to go to battle tomorrow you need an experience if you're hit and we have an administrator who has served this county for 21 years and never gone way off the ball and caused a problem for us I support the legislation with the amendment which will serve sheboyan county thank you just Supervisor Gehring is there any other discussion I guess I just have a point of clarification I think it's a good question no question I'll ask a question what's it it's not available I think it's not available can you give a second to call the question is there a second to call the question yes super perfect we're going to do an armier motion to start with so Supervisor Gehring I'll give you our second to that we're not going to call the question hello Mr. Vice-Chair for stand to rule 2.9 the county code we cannot call the question until all of you please speak is there any other discussion anybody else would like to speak thank you I believe we have again it's just one more question I just have a hard time and it's a question for Crystal how many days was established I mean I know you say it's not directly called out here but then why do we go to the immediate top limit I'm sorry I'm having a hard time hearing you through this podium so if I understood what you were saying you were asking about the 60 days again and I feel like this has been answered but I'll answer it one more time that really what we're talking about here is under the state statutes there isn't a timeline for a county board in establishing and determining the appropriate amount of time for a state of emergency we do have those examples that we have in Chapter 15 the 30 days and the 60 days it's my opinion that with the COVID-19 situation that we don't fall into one of those categories that are laid out in Chapter 15 we don't have a tornado that went through and that it ended and now we can recover and move forward for the next 60 days we have a continuing evolving situation here and so that's my interpretation of Chapter 15 further discussion Supervisor Jarga said I just want to sort this out because I think he's trying to say something that isn't getting addressed quite way so therefore what I would do is propose an amendment to this resolution which would be as it stated Chapter 148 that's my motion to amend is there a second is there a discussion on this new motion or new amendment Supervisor Nelson could someone please read that 40 through 48 starting in line 40 whereas their application of the proclamation that clarion state of emergency extending in Sheboygan County will continue the powers of the County Board Chair person and County Administrator as set forth in County Code Section 15.13 now therefore be dissolved that the Sheboygan County Board of Supervisors present to Wisconsin Statute through 23.11 declare the state of emergency now exists within Sheboygan County in light of the continued public health threat posed by COVID-19 through July 21st 2020 or until modified by further proclamation or action by the Sheboygan County Board. Point to the Board here again that's the resolution that changes everything that we can't do including the deadline we'll have to rule out a motion out of order because it will totally change the meaning of the resolution. Is there any discussion on the resolution as amended originally? Hearing none we will vote. Supervisor Smith no. Supervisor Gruber what are we voting in here? The amendment? Resolution? The resolution as amended by Mr. Discruty and Ms. Chief Baker. Supervisor Schneider Supervisor Montenegrore Supervisor Clark Supervisor Nelson Supervisor Projet Supervisor Koch Supervisor Schobert Supervisor Broward Supervisor Dorgensen Supervisor Siegelbauer Supervisor Nanny Supervisor Obler Supervisor Kulow Supervisor Gann Supervisor Weitner Supervisor Emel No Supervisor Oji Supervisor Hoffman Aye Supervisor Hibbelink No Supervisor Bosman Aye Supervisor Bellman Aye Supervisor Gehring Aye Supervisor Discruty Regarding disallowance of Kerr's plan against Sheboye County I will be referred to Executive Committee Resolution number three from Planning and Resources Regarding approving permanent easement for town of Ryan Gas main replacement I will be referred to Executive Ordinance is introduced Ordinance number one Regarding eliminating penalty on the length and payment of second installment of 2019 taxes I will also go to Executive Committee Mr. Discruty, would you help me? I'll go to adjourn Mr. Nelson Thank you All those in favor? Aye We all agree It's good work