 You're speaking of Detroit's and goodbyes to Detroit. Listen, I just opened this gift pack. Let me tell you, and it smells, it smells good. It smells very pungent, but primitive performance is incredible, and we're going to talk about, we've got rehydration, we've got electrolytes, it's fast acting, and all sorts of things going on. And it's solutions that are plant-based, and who is more adamant about that than our Hall of Fame next guest, Calvin Johnson, Megatron, what about that dunk in the All-Star game? Are you going to the NBA? We got a Detroit superstar on the show next. I'm opening, I'm opening the topical cream. Such fun and powerful, cause we're like the true legend, Calvin Megatron. Man, this is one of the best, I can't watch these highlights. Like what, he's, you're a defensive lineman out there. Calvin Johnson, Hall of Fame, one of the best wide receivers in NFL history, three-time All-Pros, six-time Pro-Wilder. You look like you could still play if you wanted to go out there today. And named to the Hall of Fame class in Canton for 2021, Megatron, how are you? I'm doing good, good. How you doing? Nice to have you on. Oh my gosh, it's so good to see you. Congratulations on all of the success with primitive performance. It's about performance. It's about recovery. I've learned more this morning about the phytocannabinoids, and it's plant-based, and I'm talking CBD, CBN, CBC, CBG. You've got flavors. You've got all sorts of things. We're gonna get into that because I actually think it's very cool and it's easy to get sucked into learning about how plants can change your life. You talked about it in your freaking Hall of Fame speech in Cannes because it means that much to you. So we're gonna get into that, and we'll get into a little football. But first, your performance at the NBA Celebrity All-Star game was so amazing. I mean, 21 Savages out there, Janelle Monae, you've got DK Mechap. What did this dunk feel like? It was weak, actually. I didn't have any momentum. I wasn't able to get into the first half, so I wasn't able to play and get any more action in the second half. But it was fun to be out there with all those celebrities. So I know that you liked baseball. In high school, you were like a top baseball guy. You could have gone that way and made it happen. Did you ever seriously consider the NBA as an option? I didn't. The NBA was my weakest sport. I mean, basketball's my weakest sport. But I love to play, but definitely out of the three is my weakest sport. Okay, you had a guy on the court with you out there in Utah named DK Mechap, who was like a Space Jam monster out there. MVP, 20 points, 10 boards. Do you think DK Mechap could play in the NBA? The physicality, with his physicality, for sure. With his hops, for sure. There's people that are his size less than the NBA. I don't know if he has a jump shot. You know, it'd be tough to be down there and up under the hoop with them seven footers or whatnot. But no, I think he has the physicality, the athletic ability really to play multiple sports. Calvin, he was, and you saw that video, like people thought it was Photoshopped of him jumping up to get that ball. The NFL, I mean, the NFL drug tested him right after. Calvin, what do you think about that? I wouldn't drug test him too. He went up even more after he got to his peak. He was ridiculous. I love that. Okay, we're gonna get into a lot of stuff here. You said recently that your relationship with the Detroit Lions, and you thank the fans and you loved them in your Hall of Fame speech, which was nice. You know, it's trending up. That's what you said recently, which peaked my ears because I sat next to Nate and I know how much those Lions fans loved you. Where do you stand currently between you and that organization? Are you involved in it at all? Just as good as being able to have conversations with them. Really talking to Mike Dizner over there and just having some fruitful conversations on a pathway forward. And that's really what it's all about. Just really, you know, just trying to find a win-win situation for both sides and really find a pathway forward so I can get out there in front of the fans, get out there in front of the team, you know, and just represent Detroit the way I should be. What, you live there. I don't know if everybody knows that you stay. I mean, it's an important community to you. Oh, for sure. I mean, I've lived my whole adult life here in Detroit. You know, I have a business here in Detroit. You know, so it means a lot. My wife is from Detroit, not actually Detroit, but from Michigan. So, you know, there's a lot of different things. I have a support system in her family up here. So it's great. You know, my mom's from Ohio, so they're not, my grandparents not too far away. So I love Detroit through and through. I've seen it grow from, you know, when I came here in no way to where it is now, you know, people should come see Detroit. It's a different place than what a lot of people think about it. But like I said, the business keeps me close and I have a family here now. Yeah, the Lions made awesome strides last season too, which is nice to see. Like, they're good. They're great. They're getting better. They finish strong. They beat the Packers in Lambeau with pride on the line. That lion pride, that's all it was. It was really, and you could tell that on the field. What do you think of the job, or not even what do you think? How impressed are you with the job that you're a former teammate? Dan Campbell has done in Detroit. What was he like as a teammate? He's a soldier, you know? I don't know if all the guys know, man. Dan was out there, you know, starting tight in in the NFL, you know, basically with one arm, you know? He was hitting, he's like Robocop out there. He had like a cast on his whole arms like my first year of playing. But he was still starting. He was still productive. That's why he was playing, you know? But that just goes to show you what kind of man he was. He played through pain, you know? To have an accountable team like, may like that, you know? And then for that to translate for him to be in a coach, I just hope that the guys that are, that his players now, you know, realize the kind of player that he is. And I think that, you know, if you do, I mean, having a player's coach is always great. But having a player's coach that really, you know, everybody that played in the NFL went to battle, you know? But you see this guy grinding about through pain and, you know, it's the utmost respect, you know, that your peers can really have a path for you when they see, you know, grind through that. And you don't have to, you can sit out. But he didn't do that. So, you know, through those things. You calling him Robo, Robocop is very fun. It's a good comparison. I think that one should stick. Okay, Aaron Rodgers is leaving the Packers. Is this bigger news for the Jets or for the Lions? I mean, it's big news for the Jets. You know, is it, is it, is that true? Is it happening? Is it going down? I don't know. Sure. Let's say it is. Sure, I think so. I mean, that's big news for New York. What do you think? That's big news for New York. But, you know, Aaron Rodgers, he's such a great player. I think he'd be great wherever he goes. New York is a tough town, you know? It's probably like, you know, Super Bowl of Bust if he goes there. But if anybody can do it, you know, with the way that they finished the season this year or the way we saw him play it at an elite level still, I think he, you know, he still has the tears to build up to make that happen. I think, listen, I grew up a Bears fan. I think it's big for the Bears. It's bigger news for the Lions, too. And, you know, the Lions were good in those years against, especially when you were there, against, pretty much everybody was a good team, but you couldn't get past him. There were some battles when you were in Detroit and Aaron Rodgers. And you said you wanted to play for him. He used to, I heard he used to come up to you and say, come play with me. And whenever he ran off on the sideline, he, and I was over there, standing by the sideline, he was like, come on over here. And I was just like, you know, the way this contract works. Well, I like to hear, I love to hear that. Okay, so we thought about the last time that you faced him in this morning. We're on our morning production call and I was like, well, what was the last game that he played against Aaron Rodgers? And I'm sorry we're gonna do this, but then we'll make it better with primitive performance to take me to this game. I could not believe the Hail Mary was your last game in Detroit. Talk about it. Oh, don't do that. Why do you do that? Why do you do that? Oh, this was the last game I played against him too. Oh, crap. I didn't realize it. Oh man. So this, the frustrating part about this, you know, in practices throughout the season, on Friday, practices or whatever, when we go through Hail Mary, I'm in the end zone. And I was going out on the field. No, no, I was going out on the field and they pulled me off the field on this play. I would have loved to intercept Aaron Rodgers. I would have did it right there. At least they wouldn't have caught that pass on that play. But yeah, they pulled me off the field on that play. I don't know why. And then that's why you see me all animatedly after that game, you know, dropped down to the ground just because it was like, wow, like really, we did that. We did it to ourselves. They pulled you off. It's famous. Look at you. You were actually barely caught on TV. I didn't know you, I didn't know. I don't know if any, do people know that you were pulled off the field? Yeah, I was supposed to go out on that play. And they pulled me off the field for whatever reason and that happened. I did not know that. And that's, that's absolutely wild. Okay, I want to ask you this one question before we get to primitive performance here. There's a couple of cornerbacks joining you in the Hall of Fame. And, you know, thinking about that, I was thinking about you finally getting that knock, loving you, opening your door, watching it. You make that incredible speech. Now you have that gold jacket hanging somewhere in your closet cornerbacks. I mean, there's not a lot of guys on earth that can say that they covered you okay, well, or felt good about it after going up against you. Who was the toughest corner you went up against? You know, just because I went up against him so many times and I don't understand why we played him like five, six straight years. Patrick Peterson, it didn't make no sense. Like he's not in our vision. I mean, they're in the NFC, but they weren't in the NFC nor I guess people just wanted to see the match up. But that was a tough battle every time, you know, he won some, I won some. And, you know, it was fun to play him because I knew when you see that game on the schedule, it was like, all right, I need to make sure I'm healthy as can be going in this game because we got to give people a show. I thought you were going to say Daryl Rivas. Well, no, I was about to go to Daryl Rivas next. I always said Pat because I played Pat so many times. I played Daryl probably three or four times and Daryl I never really had a lot of success against him. Especially when he was young, man. Oh man, he was a tough battle. I hated the way he played for us. You know, he was good with it. And, you know, I think that there's, I can't, I can't imagine many receivers can say that they just had success against Daryl. So who goes to him? We look forward to welcoming him into the hall. You know, much, much, much, much, much deserved. Yeah. And Patrick Peterson is still going. He's just signed with these Steelers. Oh, see, see, I haven't even paying attention to who's being signed where. So that's going to be interesting to see how that goes. With the Steelers. I thought, you know, he has some productive times there with the Vikings. But I look forward to seeing how he finishes out of his career. You have the NFL record for most receiving yards in a single season, even though you took on the Daryl Reavises and the Patrick Peterson's of the world, 1,964 yards. Now, Cooper Cup, he came within 17 yards back in 2021 of breaking that record, which I know you are sweating out. But that was in 17 games. You did it in 16. Doesn't that piss you off? It pisses me off. Yeah, I just hope that, you know, they just don't forget that, you know, it happened in 16 games. I mean, more, I mean, I hope that whoever does break it, I hope they do it in 16 games, you know, and not in the 17 so that we don't have to put an asterisk on it. But, you know, the way things are going and like it might happen like that. But, yeah, that's really. I'll say it. I'll make sure everybody knows. And then if you had to pick a wide receiver, if you had to pick a wide receiver, this smells really good. If you had to pick a wide receiver to break it, who do you think it'll be? Cooper, Justin, Jefferson. Justin, Jamar, trying to think of these other young guys that are coming up. But I mean, if Cooper and Matthew can get back together and have a year like they did on that Super Bowl run. Agree. That's going to be tough to get back to that level. But, you know. Does Matthew want to play? I thought he said he wanted to play. You got to call Matthew, I don't know. But I want to talk about, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Matthew. Matthew won a Super Bowl, he almost fell off stage and that was that, you know, or like whatever he was partying. That's all I remember. That's all I remember. And Aaron Donald hasn't put his shirt on since. Okay, primitive performance. This is a collab. This is not just you. So I do want to give love to Rob Sims because I love, you know, it's you and him deciding that you're so passionate about something. You're not just going to talk about it. You're going to take action. So it's founded by you. You do it there locally in Michigan. It honestly smells great. I've been dealing with a back injury that my production staff knows very well about. So I'm putting this where it hurts. But talk to me about performing, about recovering, where we can get it and why it's so important to you. Yeah, for sure. I mean, if you think about it, and you know, the quicker you can recover, the quicker you can, the more productive you could be, the more available you could be on the field. With some of these products that we're coming out with, with primitive performance, that's the idea is just to focus on recovery and just making ourselves the athlete more available, whether it's just, you know, you're that home athlete training or if you're a professional, and you need to get back on the field. That's really what inspired these products. So our first two SKUs, our ORS, or Rehydration Solution, I think Liquid IV, but we're adding cannabinoids to it. Like you mentioned earlier, we're working with four different cannabinoids there to affect, you know, the inflammation that everybody deals with internally. And then with our transdermal topical, that's, I'm really excited about this one. For the bumps and bruises, we use topicals all the time, going out to pre and post practice. I use them now, you know, when I'm snowboarding, I'm playing golf, what have you? And I actually use it proactively, so I don't have to deal with the swelling afterwards now. So I found it to work that way, but it's exciting to be able to have solutions that are plan-based and it's exciting just to be able to, you know, highlight the healing powers of cannabis. And obviously these are products that have CBD, CBG, CBN, and CBC in it. So there's no TAC and D's products. We do have these products with TAC versions just for the Michigan market. But yeah, for e-commerce, we are providing these to the masses. So it's exciting to be able to do that. You could have sent that should to California. You could have sent, come on now. Well, what? We can definitely do licensing deals and legalize the TAC products. You will. But you know, what's the TAC version? I like it, I love it so much because I'd like to add a little bit of THC, whether it's 10 milligrams or 24 workout, really to push past that burn. You know, the kind of, you know, your body kind of like makes you forget about that burn as you go on through and get a more effective workout. It's very fast acting. You've been talking for one minute. I know you have to jump, but it's, I can already feel it. But here's what I'm gonna say to you. My mom watches this show every day. And my mom worked in a factory for about 40 years, okay? And she worked and she made screws and her hands are always hurting. And now she's a nanny to my niece. And I'm always like, mom, let me send you, and I'm not that knowledgeable. I'm like, CBD might work. Like some sort of relieving cream, CBD might take away some of that pain so you can feel better and sleep. But she's like, oh, marijuana, that's where she, her head is. So what would you say to my mom about your products? Well, that's a thing to separate. You know, there's no TAC in this. TAC is primarily the psychoactive component when it comes to cannabis. And what separates our product from the rest is that it involves has nanotechnology. And that's just particle size is so small that it can mainly bypass your intestinal system and get right into the bloodstream and go to work and be more bioavailable for the user. So that's where the site is about what we're doing here for primitive performance. You know, we're using that nanotechnology to be able to provide more effective products to the end user. So like I say, I use them myself. I'm big on rehydration. And I'm big on, you know, just really just taking care of those bumps and bruises and whatnot. So just at the end of the day, just create a more effective quality of life for the user. And if you had it, when you were playing, I think it was allowed while you were playing and you had stuff like this, I think you would have played longer, Calvin. You never know. I mean, I love the way the NFL is lighting their stance. NCAA, I mean, I'm across multiple leagues that the stance is being lightened there just because more and more education is coming out. So we look forward to, you know, being on that forefront and with educating the public as well. And it's coming from you. That's the reason those rules are changing because you're so passionate about it. Hall of Famer, Calvin Johnson, appreciate the time. Sorry, you went over a little bit, but we will talk to you down the line. I'm sure you're amazing. It's literally, this feels amazing. Mom, you could be like Calvin Johnson. Come on. Find us on primitiveperformance.com that's primitive without the year. Yeah.