 Right about now I have a very talented duo that is about to change their airwaves in here, you know? Yes, they go by the name Mankind and they have awesome music and everybody is saying their music is different and we want to know how different it is. Welcome guys. Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much for making time to come. Thank you all. Okay. Thank you. The lights, your posture. Really? Put everything in account. Okay. Mambo. Poasana. So I'd like you guys to introduce yourselves to what you are. Your names. Okay. My name is Brian. Wachen. I go by the name The Cloak and I'm one half of Mankind. Okay. My name is Eugene. My stage name is Main of Mankind. Hi. So really you're still saying hi to him and you've been with him all along. Your other half. Yes. Other half of Mankind. Okay. So why do you call yourselves The Cloak? I stole it out of a Harry Potter book when I was much, much younger. Four years ago. Four years ago. You were much younger, four years ago. Much, much younger. So it comes from The Cloak of Invisibility. Yeah. That's why I call myself The Cloak. I just like the idea of being able to hide from death. From death? Yeah. But you can't hide from death though. Don't you think I know that? All right. Okay. You just like the idea. What about you? What do you call yourself Main? It's an acronym for May Art Never End. Okay. Interesting. Sanaa, like art should last forever. Nice. So everyone is saying your music is different. Yeah. You think so? Yeah, I actually think so. You do? Yes. She's part of everyone bro. Yeah. Yeah. I'm speaking for everyone right now. Yeah. So why is it different and how different is it? Why is it different? I don't know the why. Maybe off the top of my head maybe just the sounds that usually incorporate in our music. They don't sound as touchy ground here as mainstream as some other sounds that most people use. So I guess in that regard we're a little bit different. Apart from that there's nothing special about us. Just say it out loud. Say what we want to hear that. How different is it? It's um You know, don't be afraid. It's fine. Taja Majina. I will not Taja Majina. You will not get me in trouble. I see what she's trying to do. I can just walk around with it in your phone. So you can give the answer. He's trying to you know. I was very politically correct. Okay. Yeah. So why do you say it's different? She's waiting for you bro. Yeah waiting for you. Keeping the corporate money bro. Music is different because it's very true to who we are. So like we express ourselves very generally and originally. Most of the music to be honest that's played in our country is not very contemplative introspective. It's mainstream pop. So yeah I guess our music is different in that way. It's also styles that are common around here. Yeah it's actually not common by the way. You know when I had the song fame I was thinking of you know those theme songs that they used during the Olympics. Not true story. That is what I thought of. That's a great test. Are you kali? My chance. Are you kali? My chance. No no. Because we don't shine in any other way in the Olympics. Yeah but no. But now we have another way of shining. If fame makes it there then that's it. That would be fantastic. Where's my camera? Olympics. Right there. Olympics 2020. That would be the old by the way. 2020. What was the label? 2018. 2022. Yeah. That is what I thought of when I had the song fame. Oh that's such a compliment. Thank you for saying that. Thank you. So tell us about the song fame. What was the concept about it? So fame was basically about ambition. It's we tried to make it so that anything that anyone aspires to can be used in place of the word fame in the song. So if you want to be a long-distance runner like Eve ladies and gentlemen. I didn't say that. If you just anything that you so wish to achieve can be put in place of fame. So it's just about ambition. Yeah. So Eugene what is it that you hope to achieve with mankind now that you're talking about fame? Wow bro. Corporate money bro. Corporate money. With mankind I like our music to like reach as many people as it can. Move as many people as it can. Yes. Because I think the biggest reward from doing music is people telling you that your music was part of their lives in some way. Yeah. Like when I was in college studying I was listening to North or in kindergarten. Or I want you guys to come to play at my wedding. Yes. That type of response from the people you make music for is very special. So have you gotten that right now? You know you don't have to wait for the distant future. We kind of have gotten some of that. We've gotten that your music was with me in college on my parents past. We've gotten wedding. What else have we gotten? I'm still waiting for the kindergarten one. Like oh I listened to your music when I was in kindergarten. All that is in the distant future. We'll be like very long. Yeah. Yeah. So speaking about you'll be old. It's hitting you right now. I'm not able to hide from death anymore. No. Speaking about parents you guys I've read in different blogs and it's not something that your parents were up for when you started singing. Talk to us about that. Is it both of you or is it just one of you? It was both of us. So how did you? It's like in unison. Like they met and agreed. We will not support them. But it's sort of changed over time. It was very very difficult at the beginning. I suppose most things are. Especially if it's not as per the plan your parents had for you. And more often than not especially with our generation it almost never is. Our parents see us one way and we see us and the world a different way. A different way, sure. So we don't have a middle ground yet. We're still trying to figure it out as a generation. But we'll get there someday. And with respect to our cases our parents sort of got used to the idea that the more you try to control someone the farther away from you they want to be. It's true. So it sort of allowed them to listen in on our dreams and our aspirations and just allow as much room as they could. I'm not sure if they completely understand. Because you can never really know what's in the mind of another person. But I think once you start maybe making money out of it and you can independently support yourself. That's the time they start noticing yes this thing is working. Yeah I think it's that way for most parents. They just want it comes from a good place. They want the children to establish some sort of stability. And once whatever you're doing doesn't seem to be doing that to be at least offering you that. Yeah you can't do it. But we have a medical degree. So it was the same with our parents. Yeah. So did you quit school? I did. For different reasons then. But yes I did. School can be very depressing you know. Most of our institutions are very... They don't support the students. Most people end up leaving university having lost time and money. You don't feel like you gained much from the whole experience. But at the same time I did meet a lot of fantastic people in college so that was a plus. And I just feel like if you love to do something then you should spend your time and resources in that. And not focus it on something you don't want to do. Which is the mistake I made. And my advice to anyone out there is when you're out of high school and you're about to get into college or whatever just try and do something you're passionate about. Because it gives you like the will to live. Yeah. The sources want to take some time. It's usually this couple of months between choice. That's why you need to take some time. Like learn different things, read up on. Especially now we got the internet. The internet is good for more than just poor kids. Okay. Are you speaking out of experience? I'm speaking to kids. I've read the statistics. 50% of people when they're on the phone they're in poor sites. That's just... But it's also part of learning though. It's cool. Yeah. It's just a very tiny, tiny part of learning that parents in schools should be offering to be honest. But now we have so much access to the internet so we can learn broadly about different things. You can go to the internet and see DJ Russian playing and be like oh I can do that. Or you can see a mixer or switchboard and be like I can be a producer or a sound engineer or the people who control the cameras or people who are in the production room. It's not about I don't have to be Eve the host. There's so much that goes into the body or creating a show. So now kids can learn about things like that and be like oh I want to be that or that. So when you're off school it's good to take some time and learn it. But you see the problem is that period that you take while discovering what you want to do. I think I'm not saying that I'm not saying that school is good because during that period when you're in school you get to discover so many things about yourself. But now you guys are saying that it's not maybe you can take time off. It's like you're encouraging people not to go to school. No, I'm encouraging a gap year, gap year just to discover because even how the system is sort of set up the government ultimately decides what you're doing. So even as you're like offering the options as to what you should be doing should at least have some insight into that and I don't think it comes in it comes quickly. I don't think you wake up and you know. So that's why I would advise time like you take a year off because you can you can do that like the government allows for that. I think unless unless they changed did they did they change it? I think it changed. If they did then sorry. They didn't change. Okay. It's still that way. That's fantastic. You can take some time off and then start the year after. That way you would have some life experience maybe get a job if there any. So you didn't get that yourselves. What? You didn't get that experience. Gabya, no we the second we put out our first single we went to college. Okay. So we didn't have time to even grow the music or learn it sort of took away from it and I feel not as a regret but if we had more time at least involved in the art would be we would approach things differently because you learn faster. Yeah. Yeah, at least you learn on the job. It's true. Yeah. So this one goes to both of you. What has ahead a tail but that's not have a body? Coin. Oh God. That was why was it so easy? That was the answer. Yeah, that's the answer. You didn't even give Eugene a chance to answer. He didn't give he didn't give you a chance to. I'm glad he didn't. Why? What I was thinking about. What are you thinking about? I was thinking some type of animal. An animal. Yeah. I was like what type of animal is this? Doesn't have a head. In a tail. A head. Doesn't have a body. The headless what you call the headless horse man. No, no. Has a body. Doesn't have a head. Yeah. So where do you perform if someone wanted to get to contact you to reach you? Yeah, or maybe just inspire somebody out there. So for social media. It's life of mankind on Instagram and on Facebook. Life of mankind. And on Twitter it's Mankind Kenya. Okay. Music is on YouTube. All the videos are there. Music is also on Apple. And Spotify. Okay. Yeah. Individually. Or just you go. It's just mankind. It's mankind. I don't know. Individually. You can't find anything on it. I had a page at some point. But you won't find anything on it. But I hope you're not planning to get to the future. And then this is just one half and one half. And that's Brian and Eugene separately. Like on different ends of the world. Yeah. Don't do that. We won't do that. Just don't contact you. Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. Also we have FAMISOUT. Yeah. FAMISOUT. Don't meet you. Go check it out. It's the newest. It's the newest. It's the latest thing that will show up like it's mankind's fame. Yeah. Like I was saying it's that type of song that when you hear you just get inspired. You get inspired. It's the old age. Yeah. So I want to give you a chance for you to perform so that they can understand what you're talking about. Oh okay. Yeah. Okay. Great. Up next is mankind with their newest track, FAMISOUT.