 We're live Live Alan show them show them how you hold the flag Show them show them show my old bar and main flag British go the other had the other had the other had the other had Cuz look he's got the same shirt look Todd. Oh There you go. Yeah, that's cool. Where'd you get that? GG It's like Craigslist, maybe they have like French bootleg in Canada the hot New Jersey Like but it has to be written in French Half the size Hey, cuz size matters We we Oh Pat your partner Pat is on here. That's really cool. Yeah, you can say hi in Greek We did a show recently we mentioned Todd's name and actually no Todd's writing. Hey guys. Oh You were on with Gus I think Yeah, yeah, I just had you know, I get notifications when you guys are on so Sometimes they'll be like turn off or what what's this and I'll hit it you guys, you know, you'll be using Gus great He's awesome. He's such a nice guy. He's so talented and you know for someone that's had You know that kind of a Career, you know playing with Ozzie and stuff, you know, he's he's just very grounded and Yeah, he's awesome. So whenever I see you guys, I'll be like hey, what's up guys? And then you're like, oh, let's read the comments 15 minutes later. Oh, Todd says hey Anyway, okay, here we go here we go guys here we go top 10 albums of 1994 Todd, what do you remember about 1994 as a child? 1994 let's see. I was already kicked out of the house. I would live I was living I Was living in an apartment. I was playing I was gigging I was playing I think around then because I went to a trade school. That's when I started getting into upholstery in 1995 so, okay, you know, I was trying to find myself and figure out why am I you know That kind of thing. Alan. What were you doing in 1994? Do you remember I was married. Yeah, me too. I think that's a big putting on weight Yeah, I mean, but I can remember and there's some records in here that we're gonna get into but I can remember I Shit was kind of dying down Right to say the least like we had to least we had to dig for these records that we're gonna talk about Argued all week all week. We argued Alan like hung up on me at one point. I've had enough Jimmy Stop it. Stop sending me lists I Sent him a list and then I sent him another list like two hours later So I didn't he comes back with another one today. Don't start that again I said when you guys got the list just let me know I'll figure it out I agree 100% but I do I do have a couple for sure that I heavily endorse on the list So, yeah, all right, let's get do it. This is what we're gonna do We'll count from 10 to 1 like usual and in between Todd you could tell us what's going on with your life and what Projects you're working on and toss them out there. Okay. Yep. Just to make things interesting. Let's start off with number 10. Shall we go ahead? number 10 There we go It's 1994 Jimmy was just got Jimmy's married just like one year married We're an apartment. We're buying a house and what album is being released? Well, I gotta put my 94 hat on I gotta put my oh This is Eddie Jackson's hat When he comes over this is Eddie's hat it lives here. Oh, I got a 94 What'd you get with a free case of Corona or what? Shit yeah, Sean Yeah, this is the hat that Eddie wears when he hangs out at my house and it lives here So I got my 1994 hat on there. That's cool That's the hat you wore when your mother kicked you out of the house Yeah Actually, my mother didn't kick me out. My mother did not kick me out. I live I live at my dad's and and I dated a girl back then that they didn't approve of and it was stay home or or you know, I said see ya So I left That's the hat that that hat brings back the memories here we go back to the albums Chris and Pelletary number 10 answer To the master as he was just recently inducted into the metal Hall of Fame a lot of people saying what in Pelletary How do you spell that? How do you pronounce that? Well, this is his third album He did what Ingve Malmsteen should have done You should have had a band you should have had a great vocalist and been consistent with that same vocalist more or less Right Chris and Pelletary Yes, the the shredding is great. Yes, the neoclassical Solos are amazing, but you know what you got a hole, you know, you got you got to keep it down a bit You got to be a little melodic You got to think of the whole band all the songs as as sort of are just as important as the solos Like where you can be Malmsteen kind of just went off on the deep end and the solos just were all the same He did it right. He did the shredding the neoclassical and made some cool catchy riffs, right? very popular in Asia Something he told me something like five million albums. He sold from his catalog So not a lot of people can say that even though we don't know him as much here He's massive in Korea in Japan and different parts of Asia guys What he said no Look he I got to meet this guy right at this Hall of Fame It was super. He was super nice really really nice I mean, he you know, he was one thing he said to me was you know, I'm paraphrasing but He kind of came off saying like He didn't want to be I Hope I have this right but the way I interpreted what he said was he didn't he kind of got lumped in with the shred guys Whereas he was really more concerned with being you know Just being a songwriter more than just known as a shredder With like, you know, your your Tony McAlpine's and Vinnie Moore's and Paul Gilbert's and in days and that kind of thing But that was like you said it wasn't a household name in you know Again, it's if you're into that world, then you definitely know the name, right? But You know these guys went when when the musical landscape had changed and was changing There were only a handful of well-known bands that were still putting out records. Meanwhile Everybody else underneath that big popular name was still maintaining and doing music So in Pelletaries is a perfect example of that where they weren't beholden to those times I don't think so because they weren't selling out arenas anyway But they were just doing what they do, you know, but the guy's a killer guitar player and songwriter and You know, I I've got to meet Rob rock a couple times. He's a great singer who sings with him too and You know Yeah, it's it's you know, we've become so focused on if it's popular in north america That means it's the greatest album ever But they're big they're but in like japan and south american countries and that kind of thing You know, it's a totally massive. He told me he plays like to 30 000 50 000 people in asia Who can say that in north america? That's nuts Yeah, yeah Alan you got nothing to say about it. No, no, I'm glad, you know, this is why we do the show, right? And every time we do these lists, there's some nice surprises on it. So this was one of them I think it's it's an album that I've never even heard of really a I know the name I know the guitars, but I haven't really spent any time listening to the music I think this is a good solid album um But for myself Already in 94 was kind of probably sounding dated to compare to what else was going on at the time And some of the other stuff that we'll see on this list that was Probably taking over the the musical soundscape back in 94. So it's a good album I'm glad I really listened to it. I'm glad you picked it jim because I really enjoyed listening to it. So You know what and this was one of the version five. I believe list I go, you know, I forgot about that one I'm not about that one thought I better send him an email Alan. I better send him an email but I think Alan what you said is so important What was happening in 94 was like all the all the record companies have dumped all the metal bands at this point, right? Most of metal bands didn't even know what to do and they just saying you know what? I'm going to get a day job And the bands that did remain like chris and Pelletario kind of that was his third album He was getting started right in a sense. So You know any any that's a metal album if you want to say metal that is a metal album, you know And hats off to him. All right. Let's go to a number next thing. You know next thing, you know You're doing a vending machine business like bobby blotzer That's what he said. No, he said there's a documentary where he he talks about it. He's like Here comes nirvana and this whole other sound and it's like the needle on the record, right and and he's like Where's my career going to be now because now we're not getting the love. We're not getting the the airplay We're not getting and he started. I mean, I guess different businesses But one of the things he did was he had a vending business and it's like You know what if that works that works you got to do what you can to like whether the storm or figure things out and I can't even imagine Being a band on top. I mean look I saw a rat selling out the bayfront Civic center arena, whatever down here in St. Pete next thing, you know, every one of these bands was like freaking out so Anyway And just on a last note on this Not only was the times changing but the genres were sort of mutating and and moving in different directions So metal what we know as metal today or metal back then that definition changed and now and we'll get into that Sure, Alan loves that topic. It's a good topic All right, number eight and this is one of Todd's choices. Oh, let me see. Oh, no, maybe I should start with number nine Yeah, number nine. It'll be better for good. Sorry. I think Alan. This is one of yours. So let's go to number nine And Pelletary congrats number nine fates warning inside out Yeah, I mean It's not not one of my favorite fates warning album a little bit on the mellow side But I love anything that these guys do. It's always interesting. Listen And I think it well deserves to be on the top 10 of 94. So And I know, you know ray adler there Todd Alder alder, sorry. Yeah, clearly, you know them That's just my accent Yeah Yeah, there's lexic that's like it's like when we hit a bad chord on stage you're like jazz chord You know, I mean look I I know those guys um and I will have to say I I'm a huge fates warning fan, but I can tell you that I don't really know this album well You know parallels was the record I always Wished I made it's a record. I think queen's rake would have been amazing if they wrote it It's one of my favorite albums of all time. I love the old awake and the guardian stuff Uh john arch no exit was just ridiculous. I mean they have some of the good records I don't know this record like I know those records, but To go back to what Alan was saying. I mean they always put out Thoughtful music interesting music they do their own thing there They don't care if it's heavy or this or that they you know, they have a very unique style and sound um And so I'm sure that rightfully so it's on the list again I'm a little ignorant to this record, but I'm not going to bullshit the audience to be like Oh, yeah, I love this song and that song. I just don't know it that well, but You know T Marks on to on drums. He's so killer. He's killer. He really is. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and uh, Jim Matthews, I know Alan's a huge fan. Oh, yeah, you know, he's look this is Dynamic moody dark metal, right? Maybe it's fitting for the times. I mean they're progressive You know, I mean he's not aggressive. Yeah, he's not a real gritty singer, but he's very very they're all about melody You know, it's all about melody. It's not about shredding. It's about You know It's it's complex but but simple it's very palatable But there's complexity in there in their songwriting and their music and time changes and stuff that are really brilliant Zander just is brilliant on the drums on the song like every album these on somebody's saying hi Perrin unless Perrin is talking. Oh, there he is. He's in the comments So Marcy saying hi Perrin and then he said Perrin's saying hello Marcy He said now Perrin Perrin said Now I know why I'm not on this panel if fates warning is on we better see dream theater awake higher up I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah I don't know what's gonna or I do know what's gonna happen, but pretending like I don't know I don't know what you're changing the list every 15 minutes Maybe I had a version seven by the way, but I didn't send it out That's funny because I thought that's very much homework. Yeah, I'm looking at the email. It says 1994 v6 Anyway, I actually called up Alan and I go Alan. I don't know what I'm doing So who picked Alan did I not call you up go Alan? I don't know what I'm doing anymore All right. All right. We're done. This is Todd's now number eight This is the Wayne world moment. So so one of my contributions to this list is number eight Number eight cement one of my all-time favorite thrash bands and the album is called low I still listen to this record to this day I love this record. I love this band Um, there's some like there's just such good stuff on this record, dude Let me pull up the track listing and we'll go through a couple a couple of them Okay, as you pull that up to me. I'm a huge testament fan, but I found that I don't know And that's why I go. I call up Todd and I go Todd. You sure you want to put testament low? Absolutely And that's what he said that was the answer. And then I said again to him Todd Are you sure you want to put testament low and he said? Absolutely, absolutely So so just in case people don't know So the two classic guitarists of testament have always been Eric Peterson and Alex Skolnick on this record Alex Skolnick was on was not on it and it was a guy named James Murphy who played in obituary and death and testament But it sounds like just classic testament And then also they have john tempesta on drums Let's go through the track listing jimmy so Like some of my favorite trail of tears is like a ballad. Yeah, so that's a really killer song Also, there's a song that I just love and and they hadn't played it. I remember talking to chuck billy And it was on the mega death the mega cruise We played that with them and I was in front in the photo pit watching because i'm just a fan and And they played track number seven called dog faced gods this song Fucking slays and it's it's all like this brutal guttural You know, oh dog face gods manifest in the night. I mean, it's this just just brutal killer killer Uh delivery from chuck and it's just this it's just awesome, dude I still listen to this record all the time it holds up in my opinion as good as like Souls of black and you know all the classic ones But if you don't really know this record give it a try if you like testament right fair enough I think this this album is a album of the times right where death metal started just creeping in there and guttural vocals started taking over So this is the sign of the times testament's adapting to that that that era. Yeah, and he you know and And I lost you i'm here. We're here. We're here Sorry, I didn't mean. Yeah, you just totally went silent. It's okay. Um, you know, he he kind of sang With melody but in that way that he sings right But on this one he really introduced a vocal style that You kind of didn't really hear this particular one in dog faced gods is it is the prime example Of what i'm talking about like You know, it's it's almost it's like Classic chuck billy meets nergal from behemoth. I mean, it's just this really intense great tone The guitars are killer on this the ballad is great. They always have like a great ballad on a record um like return to serenity or whatever and and uh You know, they have some really great ballads that are killer so I I just want to thank Todd for choosing this because I've never ever reached for a testament album in my life Uh, it's surprisingly good and like trailer tears is a standout for me is and I liked ride as well I thought ride was a great track. So So thanks for choosing this because uh, Yeah, pleasantly surprised awesome. Yeah, great. I'm a huge testament fan I just kind of liked their last four albums and the first four albums and kind of everything in the middle I'm kind of not crazy about but I get that people love this album I go to the bible. Oh, yeah, the bible Oh, yes testament on the top Five four hundred and fifty albums of all time martin pop up or a great friend Where do you think this comes in at for okay? Hold on hold on. Is it the band or the record the record? Oh, would they even do records in that thing? It's a top 500 albums of all time. I don't think it'll be in it For 50 for 50. I hate to say it. I just don't think it's gonna be in it The supporting guys comes in at 204 All right, Todd. So Todd you got your finger on the pulse The age difference is starting to show itself. I think now Jim So I so I stood corrected it was 200 and what? Uh, 204 and there's four testament albums that rated higher than this one Yeah, practice what you preach souls of black. Maybe the new order But yeah, I you know just because of those times I was thinking, you know Maybe it didn't even register but it did it did chart when I look on on wikipedia for this record It charted I remember the album cover from the time it re it charted 122 in the u.s 39 on the uh swiss albums and 77 Japanese charts so 122 on the u.s billboard 200 Hey, man, they were holding the metal flag in the times where you know people were you know working the vending machines They were still out there You know Yeah, doing what you gotta do. No, they kept they kept solid the whole time Didn't didn't chuck billy tell us alan. He was a taxi driver at one point or that was prior to It's been a while since we did that interview. I can't remember Yeah, he had some problems with them promoters and when she all back in the early 2000s how you didn't get paid I remember that you can get paid. So parent parent says you guys are missing out on the first four Slash last four low and the gathering are stellar records. Look, I love all the testament stuff But this is this is 1994 parent What's going on here Michael, you know, he's really happy that you picked this album. He says the lows are brilliant You know, so good on you Todd Calling it out, you know, that's why we have to have three different opinions on our three different perspectives. Yeah Right. Yeah. Hey real quick before you get to the next one. Somebody's asking me a question Go ahead integrity 101 quick question. I have operation mind crime, but nothing else from queen's rite Uh, give me one song and one album from your era to check out please I mean jeez it depends because There's stuff from the last four that I've done with the band that I think they're great I mean, if you want like a ballad type song, there's well the title track condition human from that record was great There's bulletproof if you like slow stuff portrait forest from the new one. If you like heavier stuff Maybe behind the walls from the new record or Um Blood of the Levant from the previous record. I don't know just check them all out and sift through it I think I think the last two records that queen's rite released. You cannot be disappointed You know, those are two stellar albums. That's my opinion And you know what? That's a great segue into our commercial now and brought to you by Do you buy dog liturist solo album now being released? On roar rock of angels records. So initially it came out on rat pack and it was a world a worldwide release, but We did a deal with roar Which is a greek label Yeah, and uh, but they have distribution and everything all throughout europe all over europe And so uh, actually on my official Facebook page, um, I posted some stuff where we're we're doing a limited vinyl that was not Part of the first release the first one was a double white vinyl This one's red And then there's another one that's uh white with red blood splatter So there's 200 of the red 300 of the blood splatter So if you guys are dig the record go check out the links that I posted or go to the roar rock of angels records Facebook stuff and there's links and their pre-orders are happening and they're going to sell out So it would be awesome if any of you guys could pick up one of those copies because they're limited So there you go You have four queens rake albums and one solo album if you don't want him You don't want taut on queens rake. Well, that doesn't tickle you then you can get the taut's latori Yeah, solo on roar. Yeah, there you go. That's amazing. That's great news Thank you. Appreciate the plug. All right, and we got another plug after this. Okay. All right. Let me look at the list tl t All right, all right number seven Okay, now and do it Okay, wait This was one of mine. I'll let Jeremy get all the time for this became one of alans Really? Yes, but you too can hash it out All right, I'll let Alan start off. This is black hand in by running wild. The Germans And again, this is the reason why we do the show right jimmy sent this to me. So this is my choice Of course, I gave it a listen and you know, I started writing down some of the favorite songs like the privateer and the title track But honestly every song on this album is fantastic The godfathers of pirate metal I think alestorm should probably send some royalties to them on all their releases should go straight to running wilds I mean just a great listen a great metal album and A fun listen and surprisingly really a surprise that came out in 94 There was like jimmy said there were still some people Holding up the flag and carrying the flag and running well was definitely one of them. So I'll tell you why this album is important. Maybe it's not in that. Is it in the book, Alan? No, no, no running wild. It's in some obscure book somewhere in some german city This album is important because number one you said it Alan They sort of started this new genre of pirate metal like it or not. They started that genre number number two number two germany Germany was firing off on all cylinders when the rest of the world was abandoning metal They were cranking out the grave diggers and they were cranking out the uh, you know all those metal bands those Maybe they're niche metal bands, but they were still existing in germany and germany was still supporting them Saxon in the 90s into 2000s. They were they were touring germany germany was the only left The only bastion left in metal around the world that was truly supporting classic heavy metal So hats off to running wild black hand in and it is a concept album It's some pirates. I don't understand the story too much But apparently the black hand in there's this this guy guy gets burned alive He loses his hand and it's all charcoal or something or another There you go. There's a story Todd any questions That would be a negative. I don't know any of their music. I think we played one festival in europe and they were on the bill big like, you know way after us and And bender our tech uh stage manager. He's like dude. He's like if you don't know bender he's like Jeff Spicoli meets captain caveman And he's he's he's awesome He's awesome. He's the most optimistic guy I've ever known Such a good energy, but he loves that stuff. He loves man of war. He loves that that stuff. He likes Power wolf like he's really into it's fun, man It just feels good and everyone sings that stuff and it's not my shtick. I don't It's I guess it's entertaining to watch like live Rolf Rolf But I don't I don't own a cd of these bands. It's just it's just not in my wheelhouse, but um I don't know. I don't know the album. It's okay. It's okay. You see again going back to north america It's not only about north america, right? It's also about what's going on in germany. What's going on in japan? With impeller terry, right? So we're trying to cover Everything that was going on in 1994 All right, so now what do we have what number we add out? your number six On version number six. Okay. This is for you all and this is for you. Um, oh, thanks You're leading the charge right here black sabbath cross cross purposes geezers back and it shows on the playing bobby on the nelly from rainbow fame on drums Tony is my fave from the tony marten era But I mean I listened to it just before we came on and you know the opening track eye witness Is a great sabbath song period. We don't even have to get into the eras And the the hand that rocks the cradles a standout track for me I mean the bluesy intro from uh dying for love When wouldn't you ever hear that on a black sabbath album? You know, you might have to go back to the initial the the first album before you hear something like that It then the sounds so clear It's great to have geyser back. She's playing the bass like a madman and uh It's it's really my fave from the tony marten era But there's some songs on there that would fit in with deo singing or ozzy. They're just Great great tracks and I know I don't know why people You know, they say what's the greatest albums of black sabbath will rate them from top to bottom And this one always ends up being one of the last or like the worst albums from sabbath And for me, it's one of their strongest overall. I'm not Again they compared to even headless cross uh Eternal idol this this album is a standout You know alan were deep so ozzy was The depressing one right the depressing voice, you know the doom voice deal was the angry voice But tony marten was the dynamic voice the moody voice will say, you know He was he's kind of worn the fates warning side of things Versus where ozzy's, you know depressing and suicidal Oh the door the door's ringing linda Todd I don't know I've you've heard did you hear this one? I don't know the record No bs. No bs. I don't know it. Sorry guys Well, it's a worthy listen. You should listen to it. I will give it. I will give it an honest listen. Um You know great great singer as you've noted. Um, you know, I was I was More into the deal Sabbath stuff Um, you know, and I know like the popular Old Sabbath stuff with with ozzy, but um, I just don't know this record. Sorry guys. It's all good. It's all good That's why me and alan are here. Yeah Yeah, I'm just in the wings, you know color for a commentary. That's what that's it colorful commentary. Yes psychophobia, it's about waco, texas uh evil eye eddie van halen Apparently co-wrote that with tonio. I owe me Cross of thorns back to eat in some like great Big and this is the album where they went from horrific productions to a really good solid production. Yeah, that's it Yeah, yeah, yeah So there you go number six. I think it's time for a commercial Todd. Oh And brought to you by a lot to you by okay, so we're getting a lot of texts here Tanvir saying Todd are queens right coming to the uk you have great support here. What what are your thoughts there? I really don't know. I know that there's stuff being talked about, you know for european dates and whatnot Um, I don't know also Because of brexit. We haven't been I don't think we went back to europe since did we go back since that? What year did that happen? What year was the whole brexit mess tanvir? What uh, what year was that 2018 2019? I don't know. It was a while ago. Yeah last time we were in europe, I think was November of 19 And I don't okay. We played I think we did we played bloodstock. I can't remember I don't know. That's the answer. I don't really know but with visas and like work things going in and out of the uk I think things have changed a little. I know I know artists that Are from there that try to come out. It's a major hassle. It's a major hassle a lot of people that worked in other EU countries Are not working in like some of these Buildings these government buildings these government these jobs. So they're backlogged It's it's a big mess from what I understand. It's a big big mess um And so we'll just have to see not only that but the touring costs for europe are A lot more There are a lot more than here. I mean getting a bus is crazy money um We'll have to just wait and see what happens with that. I wish I could tell you more. I really don't know we have we have uh monthly Band meetings with management and whatnot that i'm on and we discuss these things but I I can't confirm anything at this point in time But the uk has always been great to us and it would be awesome to be back. So When when I know something you guys will know something perfect able to post Alexander mellow and rico. Okay. It was his birthday yesterday I want you to say he's saying Todd send me a greetings on my birthday. It's my dream. Look at this You're gonna make his it's like a wish foundation here. Well, I know Compleaños that's birthday, right? Alexander mellow erico Happy birthday to alexandro But you know, um, where where is he from? From chili Oh wait. No. No. No. No peru peru. Oh peru. Yeah peru peru. Okay. Yeah, that's happy birthday. Happy belated Hope everything is well in your world. That's where they make all the batteries for the electric cars. They mind the the lithium All right, here we go peru. Yes. I was right. There you go alexander mellow erico. Happy birthday He's always watching the show and I know he's a massive supporter of utah. So that's awesome. Thanks for the support Very much. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So uh, oh The last commercial is what are you doing with pat? You're your business associate pat. What are you doing with pat? Well pat is one of my really dear friends and uh You know what my involvement is or isn't Isn't something i'm gonna talk about right now, but I can say what he's doing Is um He has a he started a company. I'm trying to get this this screen full screen where we are um, he started a company where He's already done like some trial runs with some different artists and that kind of thing, but um It's it's basically offering different opportunities to do things with artists so Like say you wanted to go Offshore fishing with michael wilton Right like he lives in florida now So you could go, you know a small group of people could go maybe you have a great lunch with them Or you go out fishing for the whole day you get to do this experience with whatever artist They're working with and then maybe have a nice dinner the next day and it's it's basically like Just a killer kind of a it's more than a meet and greet Right, but but what pat is working on is doing Adventures in different parts of the world. It could be greece It could be mexico. It could be florida. It could be Um a workshop thing maybe doing a songwriting thing with an artist or an artist So it's various things that's in its kind of formative You know, it's it's early stages, but it's all the pieces are are going together nicely And we talk about it all the time and and so I kind of work with him on some things with that But um, yeah, and you know when that's When there's something that I really want to share with you. Maybe you can you could uh Post that or talk about it and we you could have him on as a guest Absolutely, you know four of us or something and talk about what that is because other than like the cruises where people uh Are kind of around the artist, but you don't have exclusive time with them And it's not just a meet and greet. So it's just an opportunity to do these other adventures with artists. Yeah What about a sleep or a red allen's house? I I think we should definitely do that and limit it to like Limited to like 40 people I signed up for the making heroes with gush g for the grease package Hey, there you go Cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger No pepsi cook Yeah, but it's the morning But it's the morning cheeseburger. Could you have eggs cheeseburger? That's awesome. All right I like that. Todd. I think that could that's something I could take off right An exclusive experience with allen at his house sleeping over Allen's gonna make you pancakes I like that crepes crepes. All right crepes. I like crepes Yeah, I like crepes too. Well, Todd you're invited Todd. All right Um, I'm going to hold on. Let me see where we're at. We're never okay. We're at five. This is a duel This is what I call a duel. Okay. Listen just for the record Duel for your audience. Yes. This is Todd's pick. This is not even a duel It's a duel. You can call it a duel. There's no this is not a duel These are Todd's picks and they're a duel. No the one the one that I'm gonna say the first one on the list was was I would think that was my pick Both of them are your picks. Well, I kind of said, okay You got on up to them Todd See what happened all week. This is what happened all week All right, so the first one. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. The debut is corn Right this record verse. Well, do you want to do the verses now or we talk about corn? I think you should talk about corn. All right. We'll let you talk talk all you want. Todd, you know what? All right, there are important albums as much as I don't like them, but they're important albums. Go ahead. All right Listen when that corn record came out Craig used to live with me at the time and he came home And he had this record. He's like, dude, you got to come out to the car and hear this I was like, what is it? He's like, it's a band called corn. I go The fuck kind of name is that? He goes, he goes, dude, you got to hear this. This is like so heavy. Okay And you know down down down down down down down Right. Oh, are you right? And I went, wow, this is they were tuned down. It was low and here comes this vocal that was very unique The whole record didn't have a single guitar solo on it And I listened to the whole thing and I went You know, I don't think I don't think I heard a guitar solo on the whole record. How is that possible? And you know what? I didn't even miss it I loved it. It was something completely groundbreaking. It didn't sound like anybody else Whether you like it or you don't like it It was definitely something new And I love that record that first record is killer And you know, I like a great singer, but he's got character. It's unique It was it was fresh to our ears, especially after hearing, you know Smells like teen spirit and these kind of things, right? This was like, wow. What is this? So This in my opinion Takes the cake to the other contender that we have on the list We have to also say like look, we have to mention this three million albums were sold The genre was changing. This was metal. Right. In fact, this was a new metal new metal They didn't want to spell it and w they spelled it new metal. This as much as I didn't like this album I don't like the singer. I didn't like anything about it. However, my younger cousin was about eight years younger than me He loved it. His generation loved it. So there's something to say about How much, you know, how how they sort of connected with people At the time it was groovy. It was groovy. You see how these guys were dancing back then to to the music It was groovy. It was hip-hop and it was rage Those are the three elements of corn and it connected with people as much as I didn't like it It connected Malakas, that's what they're saying was that that's Yorgos so I listen to it Malakas, so he's saying good morning Oh, he's saying he's saying Calimera. He's saying good morning from Greece. Jerkoff's Malkes Oh malkes mangas You're greek jim. Well, I don't know. It's my mangas. Okay, mangas is sort of like like like brothers. Okay. I'm reading. Yeah, I'm reading it in greek Oh, he malakis mangas. Okay. Gotcha. Okay, so he's not saying we're not jerkoffs I was after saying there was little insulted, but it's okay listening to corn again. I was never into that new metal It's on the list so I gave it a listen but I can definitely see where and I don't know generation is the right word but That the anger in there that's that generation's kill him all right It's something that's completely new that nobody's ever heard before like we we were 10 years earlier listening to metallicus kill him All it was a game changer for everyone so I can understand and appreciate that aspect of the album But for me it was just a painful listen And again, I didn't you know No, I like rage forwarder Rage against the mean sorry Rage against I do like rage forwarder too, but rage against the machine. It's I kind of I like them I'm maybe not crazy about their politics, but I did like them When did they come out of What I'm just saying in general new metal Like, you know, there was something to it as much as I didn't like Rage against the machine but then that's new metal They are a new metal. Okay, but they are okay. Yeah, so it was yeah Yeah, it was a whole it was a whole genre. They distorted this whole corn started this new genre or made it popular at least right Sasa repamere sasa repamere and that's you ought to us to say he loves us Uh, okay, so I I said I said the other one wrong incorrectly I mistook it as an L. It's a the sound the So if we get just to finish up with corn Alan's going what are you guys talking about the Bible? 100 500 greatest every man owns all time. Where do you think? Oh, it's up came in and and if they came in once in let me let me guess let me guess The corn record I'm going to say that came in at 22 150 150 150 we got to go with jimmy. It's 179. Wow really? Yeah That's pretty high out of 500 179. I thought it is that that's freaking a whale. I but dude that was a groundbreaking record Yeah, yeah, it was because it led the way to limp biscuit Right and popularity of gains a rage against the machine and all the other new metals But it kind of fizzled out pretty quickly the whole new metal thing because there's just so much sort of like slow Angry slow angry. It's kind of like that dynamic on every single song that they had so right right right All right, and let's talk about the other band All right. Let's talk about the sound garden. This was count. Yeah corn versus sound garden. Yes There it is It's here. Here's the reason why I put it here because it's really not metal They're really not a metal band, but they connected and they toured with the metal Axe at the time, right? I mean the guy but if again Again, because it's a very subjective Thing, how do you define metal? Right? So if you listen to chris cornell's voice Dude, he's doing everything that like a metal singer would it would be characteristic of a metal singer But I think it's it's maybe the guitars that kind of a sound that You know wasn't as crunchy and stuff like that But then again, you had old marshal stuff that maybe wasn't as crunchy that we definitely would call metal So it's it's hard to say but I never really I never considered sound garden like a metal band I always thought they were like a just a killer Hard rock band. Yeah. Yeah, but still but again again these this was hard to find Great records in 94 that you know what I'm saying. So This album was A mega mega success. I mean spoon man Black hole sun even you know now there's so many artists that are covering black hole sun even to this day Yeah, and it just exploded. I mean if you know super unknown Sorry, uh, the one before bad motor finger was a great album And this just launched them in a whole other stratosphere where this album was released in 94 That that I do remember and of course chris cornell. What a what a voice. I mean you can talk to him about him as a vocalist, Todd I mean You know who sounds a lot. I would love to hear the singer do a cover Richie cotson This guy sing his voice is so great. Very similar. He's got a very similar kind of maskey Tone to his voice that's very similar to chris cornell but yeah, the guy the guy had a Very identifiable voice killer range great technique like style, you know, very very, um Unique, you know, I guess the character in his voice, but I mean he's Regarded as you know an amazing vocalist and yeah, he is Or was like to me seven million seven million albums sold Are you know this this was like a massive album sound garden just took it to another level Right, and then they broke up. Yeah, but it was like Like they didn't have like the pearl jam sound but they weren't Do it, you know, they weren't the glam thing was so saturated like that kind of needed to go away. Anyway They were they were fresh sounding, you know, and when I hear if I hear something like that on the radio You know, I'll turn it up. You know, it's it's good. It's great music So did it make the top 500? That's what I absolutely for sure. Absolutely. All right. Hold on. Hold on. All right Betty many Betty minute. So since it was the the battle What what was corn's number? 179 Okay, let's hear it. I this definitely was higher in my opinion Let's see what's going on here. Look at the file. Look at the smile. It says 183 Oh So you guys uh, you guys are on these two are really close and and radio pretty in the top top third, right? So Okay, let's ask the metalheads out there corn or sound garden corn or sound garden. Which one would you pick That you like a little bit better than the other one For me it would be sound garden. I just love chris cornell. I was on the elevator and I heard black hole side. I was like, what? Yeah, that's what I mean is Music, you know, you have some success when they're making music out of it. That's right. That's it. Look at this So look at these chat the corn sound garden corn sound garden. Look at that Wow, so it's it's it's a rivalry there. It's a it's a 50 50. See so you pick some good choices there, uh, Todd You know what now that you mentioned it. I did You didn't like it at the beginning you're like kind of embarrassed you were a little ashamed at first Shame you were ashamed. I didn't bring up sound garden first. You did I brought sound garden because I know you'd like sound garden. That's all No, I brought in because I do like it. I'm kidding. Yeah, okay. I do like it and you know, I don't like corn But I do like other new metal But I do like sound garden. Yeah, I never was I never was like into the new metal thing There's a couple bands that spawned out of that that I that I did like You know, but Look, there's so much. I liked it. There you go. See generally. Yeah, okay Black hole sun Is uh, who did uh rusty cage was that that was sound gardener, uh Allison chains Oh, my wave is a great song too. Who did that? I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run who did was that sound gardener was that temple of the dog They might have been temple of the dog. I'm going hungry. Do that one I'm gonna strike. Can you do that? See, I'm wearing my shirt today. Look, yeah, it's nice. It's really nice soft like a baby's bum I mean in a good way. Yeah, I'm going to number four. You're gonna get canceled, dude. You start saying shit like that All right, let's do number four. Let Allen do this Allen rock this one. Oh, yeah, this one this one is definitely Allen's because I almost threw this off the list And I support this pick Allen. Okay. Well, I did something right today When I sleep over we could talk more about it. That's right sleep over at Allen's We're going with dream theater awake Now everything dream theater. I always call my good friend cork To get his impression. He was there back at the first album. He's followed them around touring He's the biggest green dream theater fan that I know I wanted to get his impression of this album in 94 And if it's the same today, but he hasn't texted me back. So I'm a little disappointed Uh, but again dream theater. I mean I'm listening to stuff like uh scarred I think that was a standout and that bluesy kind of intro that's really different something that they've You know probably hadn't done up until that point And I think there's less side tracking Todd and I spoke about dream theater in the past and All these little side tracks that they little voyages that they go on kind of it Can we get back to the main theme of the song and I think this song's this album's a little bit more focused And I mean just the musicianship alone you listen to openings tracks and it's like just the drums and everything it's It's such a great and strong album. It definitely had to make our top 10. So Yeah, caught. I'm looking at the track listing like caught in a web I used to listen to this record all the time in my car It's game's livery's voice, you know, you forget how strong it was at one point and it's You know his vocals on this album are amazing. I find Absolutely. Yeah, this is a this is a A great record for sure. Um, where what record does this sit in the discography Alan? third record Third or fourth third third. Okay. Yeah, and just so you know, Kevin Moore was a keyboardist There he was budding heads with the band at the time and it kind of uh led to him quitting leaving the band Uh, I'm a huge dream theater fan just not one of my favorites But I can respect the people who do like it because music is subjective at the end of the day Um, it's the third release. Yeah. Yeah, it's the third release in october the fourth 1994 The album peaked at 32 on billboard 200. That's great It again keep in mind their last album, which was uh images and words that was their break breakout album, right? Pull me under that So it's kind of you know, they're they're kind of This album was sort of what do you what do you want to call it leaning or not leaning but sort of Riding that wave of their their breakthrough album so The label was demanding stuff grunge was in the air. We need some something darker. We need another hit guys Uh, so that's kind of like the mood and the atmosphere and writing this album Grunge is is yeah Yeah, it's uh It's a killer record. I mean the obviously the first couple that came out Were just phenomenal When I first heard of them, I was like, oh my god, who are these guys? This musicianship is insane You know and as a drummer, I'm like, okay. I want to try to learn this You know, but uh great record dream theater awake somebody asked me Todd, did you quit smoking? I quit I haven't had a cigarette in a month I have I have a little vape here It's disposed on the road blabbermouth. Please take note. Yeah, Todd is not smoking now. He's on the vape Yeah, I haven't in fact the last the last cigarette that I had It was in the pack like I I kind of nursed a half a pack over like 10 days I've been a 30. I've been like a one to two pack a day smoker for 30 years And I did quit for two years and and in my I'm my I had a family member get very ill Very sick and I was super stressed and upset. I started smoking again. That was like in 2008 and then you know So I get nicotine from this but I don't get the tar. I don't get the smoke I have no I have zero caught if I caught this because I have a tickle in my throat. It's not I there's no Yeah, it's all good. I don't even this a new year's resolution. Todd No, it's it's something that's been kind of lingering in my mind when we did the last priest tour I was vaping more than smoking to try to like get through that But the last cigarette I had like it tasted like shit and that's never happened to me before And I was like, wow, okay I So I don't ever say I'm I'm never going to smoke again. What I do is I say Today, I'm not buying a pack of cigarettes and I've been doing it at a time I've been doing that for 30 days and I don't I'm not buying any today And I'm not going to buy any tomorrow. So that's That's where I'm at I quit when I was 34 years old. He said small chain smoker. Yeah, and it's not easy. It's not easy, man Yeah, it's not easy. And you know what dude? I I don't I mean You know, I'm saving so much money. These are like I get these online for like 15 bucks and it lasts You're doing like this. This is what you're doing now with your money, right? A couple weeks, dude You know, this lasts me a couple weeks. I don't smell I don't I don't smell like smoke anymore. I can smell it a mile away. Congratulations. So I'm I'm really trying You know, thank you. Keep it up. I'm sure everybody. I know what online. I'm getting a lot of texts here and uh a lot of support Just just for your guys information dream theater awake came in at number 231 out of the top five Look at that images and words must have been higher had to be way higher Yeah, yeah, let's go. Well, since you know, I can I can let you know here images and words comes in at 47 That's really good um Alan, I think we had images and words in the show of 1992 or 91 whenever was released. I believe so. Yeah Yeah, we must have had to be number one. Was it number one? I don't remember Hmm, I don't know all the blurge it Months since our last year list per year. I don't know. I can't go back. All right. Okay. Let's go to number three Yeah, number three. Oh, this is a Todd one. We're gonna we're gonna give the floor to Todd completely All right, so there you go the band that was Flying the flag crazy high when everything changed You know it. It's Pantera one of my favorite bands of all times far beyond driven This record's killer. Let me pull up the track listing because I don't have it memorized Uh, let's see what and as you pull that up 1.5 million sales Right number peak that number one on billboard 200 This is wings metal dude slaughtered I'm broken. I mean I think they still play I'm broken um shedding skin like dude It's just it's just classic pantera. It was a little I think it was even like heavier than they did Planet caravan, which is killer in fact when they're doing this uh This tour that they've been doing they've been using that planet caravan and showing video of of the band back then and and uh Vinnie and dime so It's a killer record especially In the midst of kind of that time and what was going on It still holds up It totally belongs on the list That's it Alan What he said You're doing politically correct This is my opinion. This is my opinion on pantera. Okay Everything you said I respect the band. I know they're loved by everyone. This was a genre defining band. They just changed the game I don't get it. I I don't get this band. I I put it on. I have to take some title and all after I just don't get it. It's just listen. Maybe I was a 10 years behind or something. I don't know Listen, but I could respect people who like this band. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong I don't respect people that don't like it. No, I'm kidding. Listen Listen, okay. If you don't get the band do yourself a favor do yourself a favor. That's fine Do yourself a favor. You love halford. You like that kind of stuff, right? Listen to the song off of cowboys from hell Called shattered This guy sings like halford on this song It's high. It's it's that clean grit It's not like distorted. It's this kind of clean grit that he's got going on killer vibrato like he has like legit metal Halford style vibrato and vocals on that song It's groove. It's power groove metal See power metal. That's the album. I like by pen power groove. That's no, but I like power metal by by But that's the album. I like by them That's the one you like from them. Yes, I do. Okay. What about what about uh vulgar display of power? This love you didn't really like that. Okay. Well, it's just not my thing like how I get it Yeah, I just thought I think but but there's nothing wrong with them There's nothing wrong with them. I don't want people to think Look, you love the band and makes you happy. That's all cool, man It just it wasn't my favorite. It wasn't my favorite record from them. Totally not my favorite But it was a solid record the drumming's killer. It's it's very I mean, it's pantera and again thinking of 1994 Unless you're going into some like deep obscure stuff If if we're using the variables of sales and metrics and some of these things that we talk about That's I think that they look we didn't pick them as number one No, they're in they're in the list. I think that they deserve it. Um, I think alan's hiding his true feelings about this album To go to Todd's point this Out of our picks today on our top 10 list This is the highest charting album in the top 500 Yeah comes in at number Seven No 67 That's higher than our number one pick Yep, no, it comes in at number 74 Wow, okay. I didn't know that some somebody uh Somebody asked if metropolis part two for dream theater made the top 500 and did it came in at 160 Wow, that's a great album Somebody said hold on. Let me go to the comments really fast Horrible album too much scrimmo. Look, I liked it when he did a little more of that melodic stuff like on Cowboys from hell, but that's okay. You know, um, somebody asked me what I thought about um The re the thing that's happening And I know they take issue with the word reunion because it's not all the members but like a tribute to whatever look It's it's it's two original guys. It's the same as queens rike. It's the same as Judas priest. It's the same as like 99 of every band that we ever loved from this era. So There's only one dime. Okay. Yeah, I get it. I understand that but I think that it's their name And he's the singer and rex brown is there and if they want to go out and play it You know charlie is nailing the drum parts amazing drummer like exactly right You know Okay, zack plays it his way but What, you know He's not trying to just be a complete copycat He has his own identity and and I think because of that note, right? He's a he's a face that kind of everybody loves right everybody loves zack So he's he's playing with the band, but I support it completely. It's their band. It's not yours They could do whatever they want and either you got to see them originally like like many of us did back in the day This is the closest thing you're ever going to get So either embrace that and be happy for them that they're doing it or just play the old stuff and And be a sour pus about it Here they're opening up for metallica at the olympic stadium. So it's a massive it's killer two nights. Yeah. Yeah killer Uh, look, I'll say this again. I'm not a fan, but I can respect what they did and how they held that metal flag In the dark years Absolutely, absolutely. Sure. I can't listen to track two or track three off of this album, but you know what respect Bingo, yeah Alan any closing words on this album? No, it's a higher So politically correct. It's not even funny And by the way I would have swapped number two for number one, but that's just me. All right. All right. Okay. All right. Here we go. Yep Do we have any other commercials we need to talk about? Brought to you by days omelette My craps tropical gummy No blots or no pantera somebody says let's go to somebody said he doesn't like pantera. Where do I send the Alan, what's your email? Here we go Sorry somebody said, where do I send the hate mail? I said, Alan, what's your email? No, what's your mailing? What's your mail number two? Number two sleep over with aled. I love that sleep over with aled Number two euthanasia by mega death great record There it is number two. There it is. Love that album cover. This is a beautiful Look at that. That's great. Little baby. You got acoustic guitar The two of them own you got harmonicas on a lesion fields Super clean production from max norman. I mean it's crisp crisp and clear and it's you know Metallica is I mean sorry mega death at their best, you know, it's just a great great album Well, let's not go at their best. Wow, it's a strong album. It's a strong album. It is it is Look to me I do like this album and I think it does deserve to be number two because This it's a strong album like Alan said just that but at the same time They were holding that metal flag. They were still playing heavy metal even though they slowed it down a little bit It wasn't as thrash. It was more melodic Right The sales 2.3 million worldwide um This is their sixth album And it did chart So, you know numbers. Hey, it charted number four on the us billboard. Yeah. Yeah This is a huge album band 94 94 when everything, you know when when grave digger was doing these guys were charting a number four, right? So, I mean it says a lot it says a lot, you know It's a great record. I listened to it. I listened to it in the car today. I had to run some errands And uh Dude, I for it's been a while since I've heard that record. And you know what? I like that. They're just really great. They're they're good songs, right? It wasn't just about all this shredding Yeah stuff, right and they were like melodic and his voice sounds really good on this record. Yeah Um I thought it was a killer uh thing max norman. I think did this record, right? Um, yeah You know, I'm not sure when when marty freedman left, but he's on the record. He's on the record. Nick. Oh, I know I know record. Yeah. I know he's on the record. There's a lot of good stuff on this record There is totally deserves That's what I was trying to you actually express what I want to say is just a well written Perfect. Yeah, great record. That's all it is. I would not be ashamed of that record at all Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah number 242 out of the top Wow, who would have thought it would be that far back in the back to wow Okay, we're getting close to it now I'm gonna do an honor. I'm gonna do an honorable mention that yeah, let's do some honorable mentions Let's do that. Okay. Yeah, and as a huge fan of this band I don't know where this sits In the discography because I have many of this band's records. Yeah, uh, but slayer divine intervention Uh, I don't really know this record well enough to Give a good insight to it Yeah, but that's gonna be an honorable mention of mine because it's not on the list Okay, hello, it made the top 500 thought it comes in at 240 it actually beats euthanasia Wow, there you go. I gotta get one of those books Allen, what's yours? What are your honorable mentions? I don't know. I'll I'll say this one because I know you love it and it gives you a chance to say something else Okay, except death row Single single guitar Wolf's all alone And uh, anyway, you could talk about it more than me jim because uh, you love it this album is a gem A lot of people don't know about this Udo was on this album. This is sort of like they're there. They reunited after they broke up The David Reese was in the band, you know, there was a lot of stuff that went out Went around in the 90s. They kind of reunited did a few albums. I think it was three objection overruled this one and predator This Is a one guitar Accept so wolf is do handling all the guitars on this. There's no two guitars anymore So it has a kind of a different feel to it because now he's kind of playing the rhythm and the lead You know sort of the black Sabbath style right of playing Uh, anyways, just just some great tracks It's raw. It's raw. It's got that 90s doomy dark lyrics Raw and it's not balls to the wall where the big choruses and the gang vocals. It's more in your face except That's why I like it. I always loved it. Alan always knows I love this album Todd I want to ask you about this album here It didn't really make our list. I played it the other day and I go should we put this on And you don't have to answer if you don't want to I can answer. I don't care Promise land kind of like the first half of it I like it it sounds different sounds refreshing and then it kind of just dives it just it just It just doesn't I know I know I know to a lot of diehard Queens rake well a lot of queens rake fans really love that record um, I never heard the full record until Until I got in the band I heard like you I heard look Empire was a great record um, but it was such a shift from What I loved like the warning and rage and you know, I I I like operation mind crime It's not my favorite, but it's it's probably The best record they did In its totality of be for many reasons, but it's not my favorite When I did hear a couple things from from this record you're talking about um I was in a different headspace dude. I'm playing overkill and slayer and iron maiden and deo and megadeth and I heard that and I was just like I I wasn't vibing because it was so mellow and so It just is not where my headspace was I was into Heavy shit and this to me was like, okay after empire It even now it's even softer like what's going on here now I've come to appreciate the album much more Much more there's great songs on that record But I could I couldn't name I don't know the track listing of that record. I don't I do have a copy. I have the cd of it But I like I remember one day michael was like, oh, let's play out of you know, you want to play out of mind We were doing a sound check and I'm like I said to him. I go. How does that go? Because I just don't I don't know that Like I've heard I've heard that I've heard here in the now I've heard I've skipped through stuff and if it didn't catch me I was on to something else So I think it's a great record if you're in that headspace for sure. There's a lot of dynamics. There's great great Musicianship he sings great for what those songs are again. I was in a different place So I didn't embrace it the way that maybe it deserved to be embraced back then And that's kind of how I feel. I think there's Some stuff on it that I really think is awesome. And then there's other stuff that I don't you know, doesn't really do I don't care about But I I'm not like dissing the record at all. I think it's a I would be proud to write that record Alan Uh, I think there was something having with chris the ghermose Well, he wrote most of it. Yeah, that was a death in the family. I think I remember correctly and it really affected I think his writing I could be wrong, but that's didn't leave after this album where he left after the other one. I remember I don't know. But that's it. I mean listening to it Yeah, you gotta be in a certain headspace and of course everybody's looking for the big follow-up from from empire and And I mean so that one for me that I can listen to and then like five minutes later I wouldn't even be able to hum I'm a song off of it. You know, no, the first three tracks are great. I think it was a very reflective Yeah, you know, I there's a little mini little documentary thing that is out on youtube on it And it's cool. There's all kinds of like Inside footage of them each person and tracking talking and from what I Got from it was it was just a very I think they had toured their asses off on empire They were kind of burned out and took some time off Then they got together and did this and I think it was a very like reflective kind of deeper type of record and you know As an artist, I totally get it sometimes you you just You you you just hit the reset button in your brain and and you're in a different space, right? And you just you gotta Put that down and they put it down. They recorded it and they put it out and you know It's definitely, you know, when people talk about the great records They'll usually say the first five and then they'll they'll Put a little asterisk to that one. Yeah, you know I'd like to think that at least one of the four that I've done would come after empire before promise land But I mean, it's a great record for what it is. Absolutely And you know, I remember I remember one that sorry Alan, go ahead and in the spirit of the show I'm gonna I'm gonna grab it and I'm gonna listen to it tonight. That's for sure Okay in the spirit of the show. I actually listened to it Alan before the show Well, I didn't know, you know, no, I'm just trying to figure out We had enough problems with your top 10 never we didn't want to get into your honorable mentions either That'd be version 20 me. Hey Failing to prepare is preparation for failure Anyways, I put this on to see if it should be on the list and I was going actually I was on version one The album was on version one. I put it on. I go, you know what? It's a pretty good album I'm not I don't only like metal albums. I like all sorts of music, right? Otherwise, so do I and I put it on and I go, wow, great first track second track great third great And then it just the songwriting is in there. That's all it's just not there And I think parents said it best. He said seven out of ten. That's exactly what I think between a six and a seven out of ten So it's around there. There's some good. There's some good stuff here Like Todd said there's some good stuff here, but it's not one of their best. That's all Let's go to number one. I'm getting hungry I ate already. Yeah, you did. All right. Let's do let's you know what? I got a I got a meeting at seven o'clock anyway with a video with with my video guys. Let's go. Let's go Okay, let's go and number one Let me get it ready. This is all you guys. It's all us but um Masters of the rings. I mean that What the hell are you doing and he dares pink cream 69 comes over A lot of more More to his voice, you know, there's a lot of different inflections in his voice I thought it was a great comeback after the chameleon fiasco and the you know soul survivor Perfect gentleman mr. Eagle That's great song. He's in the ballad in the middle of a heartbeat and My album the one version I have even has two covers that as I stole your love from kiss and the grand funk's I'm your captain. I'm your captain So it's nice to You know, I think it's a strong album It's it's halloween going back to their roots and what they should be doing and andy deris was a pleasant change I think I love his voice So if there ever was a heavy a real heavy metal album in this era or this actually 1994 This would be it It's thrashy Something that mega to kind of pushed away, you know, sort of pulled back on these guys are still doing the speed metal They're still doing the thrash the vocals are still high octane. So it's only fitting That this album be number one. Yeah, sure. I didn't freaking sell 20 million copies Andy deris saves the band The band was on a verge of like bankruptcy Uh kiske's gone Uh deris breathes new life into the band This is a Heavy metal as we know it today. You can put this album on today and say, you know what could have been written today Or it could have been written before 10 years before consistent that way. Yeah, I agree. That's right. That's right. So No, that's it That's number 10. They forgot a great show. We've done shows with them before and um we with with andy and uh You know, they always put on a very entertaining show. He's got a great voice. I mean, he doesn't peter out. He's They're they're a super solid band that's still going on Um, so yeah, what can you say? I have the first the keeper of the seven keys that whole thing You know, that's when I like when halloween Came out, you know, or I was a big fan of that of that song and uh to tamo What's the song called? It's the ballad to tame I can't remember Yes Far cry from windmill. So whatever it's called Yeah, yeah that one and then there's uh, uh, what's the song called? To tame what's it called? Hold on. I'll tell you right now Off of the keepers too. It's all right Hold on hold on halloween To tame or the land that could what's it called? Of uh, of uh, no that would a tale that wasn't right That's it That's it keepers one those two albums are Those are great albums me and alan like gush over these albums all the time. Yeah a tale that wasn't right I don't know why I said tame. Sorry. It's okay that song and then uh, what's the song? Hot higher Like a wire, how does that song go um, oh, I hear you say that is a way I'm alive. We that You know, I like that that record I don't have steam. I don't have the record that uh That you guys put as number one. I know blasphemy. Sorry guys This is Todd blasphemy it should be Todd Blasphemy blasphemy la tori Come on. Give me all you got But uh, yeah, I mean they're a great band and they're still out still out there touring and doing their things. So Absolutely, you know All right, so one album that I forgot to do an honorable mention. It's sabotage Um Hand full of rain, which I think a good record. Very good record. It's a good record It kind of like is the foreigner, you know, there was nobody left at that point, you know and the band was just kind of like I mean that's kind of wide and put it there. I obviously I like the old classics and then when when zack Came in to uh, zack stevens to come in on like edge of thorns and stuff like that You know, that that's a killer record. Yeah, um, but Anyway, yeah another honorable mention So, yeah, so I guess the next the next thing is sleep over at allen's the documentary Yeah, I gotta buy I gotta buy a 95. I need to buy a onesie and a sleeping bag I got a onesie you can borrow Yeah That might be my sleeping bag Does it have like a zipper? A onesie zipper. It's uh, like lumberjacks all red and uh black, uh I'm gonna show up with one like a like a bunny from a christmas story I'm gonna show up as a teletubby The red one for 1995 that'll be interesting. We kind of scrounging the bottom of the barrel We'll let Jimmy come up with 28 versions and we'll pick from them. So I'm wondering when like This shift comes back and you start getting Into some good stuff again. That's a good question because it does it takes a long time takes a while We're gonna have to take a long time. Yeah Well, thanks for having me on the show. Yeah. Yeah. So Todd, let's let's one last time. Here we go. Pick it up In greece in europe. There you go. Yeah, yeah So for those of you that are in bonus bonus material Yeah, I mean well Oh, you froze Who's back? Who's freezing? Who's cold? Todd Lettori I guess He's timed out He's timed out So I'll just say it for him. Yes, there's bonus material pick it up in europe in greece He's got another call. There's the vinyls The vinyl edition and I guess you could buy it from here if you want an import and have those special uh limited editions And that's it and it comes in red as well. He said right and if you want to pick up a toddletory shirt There you go. Boom and I'll show you our main shirt there one last time Look at that off a kajiji 666 666 All right, Todd. We'll let you go out. Oh, we lost him We lost him. He's gone. He's gone. All right. See you later. Elm. Bye