 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique house, it's your boy E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely official miss, Mr. Maker, what's up? None, none, you know my dad, what's going on? Man, hey man, make sure you guys like and subscribe to Boss Talk 101 man, we out here in Los Angeles. Yo man, hey man, listen man, we got a guy out here today. But hold on, before you get into that, y'all got to make sure y'all do the Patreon. That's where y'all going to find our full length interviews after a while. Let me tell you, we're spoiling you right now doing it on YouTube, but the door membership, small little jingle jingle jingle, change to get our membership, do it, you will see all our full length interviews on our Patreon. It's under Boss Talk Podcast 101, I'm Patreon, thank you. Man, she's trying to pay the bills y'all man, hey man, freeway, Ricky, Ross is in the building. Yes, yes, what up? Man, how you doing man? You know right now, I'm having a stint with high blood pressure. Man, you know. Man, but you a vegan and you, I mean, you eat right, you work out, how? Yeah, well you know, I was talking to Shepp or Bet the other day, I called her and I was like, Shepp, you know, I try to eat the right foods and then she was like, well you know, you eat out a lot and you don't know what them people put in your food to make it taste good. Right. And me, I don't eat for taste. Yeah. Yeah. Eat for health. As we get older. Right. I just woke up a couple nights ago man and I'm benign until me and my head just felt kind of funny and I was like, you know what, maybe I should just go to the doctor. Yeah. And lucky I did, I went in, it was like 3.30 in the morning and my blood pressure was 189 or 101, which is stroke and heart attack levels, you know, and they was like shocked I drove myself to the hospital. Wow. What was your symptoms? I didn't really. You had eggs or? I had eggs, really no symptoms and that's why, you know, they call high blood pressure the silent killer. The silent killer. And I didn't know none of this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. They never had no health problems. Yeah. So for me it was a total shock but they say it can be managed, you know, so I'm managing it now, I'm fasting, I'm getting ready to do a cleanse, you know, where I detox my body. Reset your system. And I'm exercising again, rigorously, you know, I used to exercise rigorously. But I thought you played tennis anyway. Well, I played with my kids but that's not enough to really generate the type of activity that I need, you know, I have to increase my activity. So I'm working on that now, but other than that, you know, things are pretty good. Yeah. Well, I just know that, man, you know, talking to you last time, I know you got relationships with doctors and stuff, you know, last time you was telling me about a doctor that was telling you about COVID. So I know you know who to call. I know you. I already called him. That's the one thing. I called the doctor, Washington, and Sheffport Bed, and Ricky Poo. I mean, I'm hitting everybody up now, getting all the information I can. A lot of my friends, I didn't know that so many people had high blood pressure. You know what they do? It's all. Like, we wouldn't believe, like, every one of my friends have had high blood pressure. So let me ask you a question. You're going to start cooking at home now and eating your own food instead of eating out all the time? Well, what I'm going to do is get me a meal prepper, you know, because my schedule is so rigorous that I can't cook myself. You can't cook yourself. No, I can't do it. You're always going 24, 7, 7 days a week. Yes, my schedule starts at, what I did do, too, I put my phone to the side, you know, in the morning. So now I'm not going to start answering my phone to about 6 in the morning. Okay. Most mornings I'm up at like 4 in the morning answering phones from people on the East Coast, but I'm going to slow that down. Just try to slow my life down a little bit, you know, instead of go, go, go, go, go, you know, stop and smell some roses. Health is wealth. Mm-hmm. It's way more important. It is. And people don't really think about it. You can't buy good health. Correct. You've got to, you've got to, you have to have peace. You think like when it comes to anger and all these different things. I don't, I don't really, I don't really get angry. That's what I'm saying. You really laid back. You know, it's like, it's like so many of the things that they say Triggers it. Triggers it. But now stress, you know, and stress is something that you don't know. You can carry stress and don't know right. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm finding out that most of my time of my spikes is at night when I'm asleep. Yeah. Really? I'm dreaming. Dreaming. You know, I have nightmares about being in prison. Yeah. Yeah. And most of my dreams. You still do? I still do. I still have nightmares about prison. Really? You got to realize he did 20 years. I did 20 years, yeah. I know. But you've been out for a while and you've been so busy keeping yourself preoccupied. 14 years. But you're subconscious mind. Subconscious mind. It's locked in your subconscious mind. Wow. That's why it's one of the most important things that we have to learn is to control our subconscious mind. How? Well, whatever we feed it is what it picks up on. Yeah. So we have to really just be conscious of everything that we're feeding our mind. Because most of my dreams are about business. And it's usually about business where I barely make it. It's like this real tense situation. And we're struggling and we're struggling and I barely make it. You know. So I imagine. And that's your dream? Those are my dreams. Okay. That's what I dream about. Like I don't dream about being on Fantasy Island. No, because you say you dream a lot about being in prison too. But that's not a dream of in prison. No, no, no, no. It's either being in prison. Or about business. You got to understand my friend. Like I was locked up when he passed away. And for years I used to dream about him until one time I dreamed. And I told you about it. Last year. I died in my dream. Yeah. And I never have dreamed about him no more. I wish I could stop dreaming of dying. My prison sister would die. But. I mean I have dreams of me selling cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. The police kicking the door in. And me going back to prison. And then all my friends were sitting there like. We knew you was coming back. I wonder if our subconscious is because that is a fear that we have subconsciously. I wonder if that's the reason why subconsciously you dream about certain things. Because it's fears. It is. It is. It's a fear. And it's also an addiction. You know selling drugs is an addiction. Right. You know so quite naturally if you done it as long as I did it. You know and enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed it. Because it's a challenge. It was a challenge. Hold on. But then you turn your business. You come out and because one thing he's always told me is when we started out selling clothes and stuff like that he would use it as like that's the drug game because we will go hustle the clothes and we will go out of the adrenaline rush of being on the street selling the clothes and walking up to people and be like hey especially making a lot of money doing it. And I can see how I can you know think about that as a drug game. So even like you with your entrepreneurship last time when we had our interview you said you just use all your principles from the drug game to your entrepreneurship and so forth. So that's why I'm like it should be the same. Well it is. I mean the games are the same. But I haven't been able to take those nightmares out of my system to where I only think about the stuff that I'm doing now. Now I don't have a prison dreams every night. You know and then you know sometimes we don't even know what we dream about. You don't remember. I can remember though when I wake up you know. For a moment and then you forget after a while. Wow. That's crazy. I'm glad that was a dream. Dream. That's real. It gets so limited where I would dream that I was like I was dream stuff and it would happen while I was locked up. I would dream it and. Oh no question dreams or a form of things to come. Yeah. Not all but some. Not all but most of them. Or Jamaica will say dreams don't walk straight. That's what Jamaica will say. Dreams don't walk straight because when I say that some people can dream things and it happened and people will be like that's deja vu but it's really something you dream and then it happened. But some dreams is like you have to have it interpreted. You know what I mean. Like you dream about fish and then Jamaica will say oh somebody's pregnant. Right. Right. And I heard that. Dreams are a form of you predicting what the future is. You know it's like a vision where you visualize something to come. And that's how I see it is a vision you know where I can see myself in business. I mean if you go back and you look at some of the articles that I did when I was in prison and I'm talking about these dreams in these articles and now all the things that I talked about in those dreams are manifesting themselves right now in the world. And dreams prepare you for different things because I can remember one dream in particular that I think that dream prepared me for my father's death because it was a dream that happened and it was so weird because of what I saw in the dream and then no later than probably a month later I got that call. And I knew that that dream that's what that dream was. Yeah. Wow. I was going to ask you about like just lately you know I've been seeing you. I did see the podcast. You had spoke about that. I want to say that while I'm thinking about it. Is it beat beat it was you was on a podcast or either you do a podcast. This was a but this was virtual when I seen you. And it was with the guy out of Chicago. I think beat. What the heck is the name of that thing? It's beat something. Dave Dave made it. But it's beat teams. Break beats. Break beats. Are you really affiliated with those guys or you just did that with them. Well Dave is my partner. You know it's crazy when I went to prison. It was the first time I ever saw the source magazine was only like two pages. Yeah. And I wrote Dave a letter when I was in prison. He didn't get the letter. But I wanted to invest into the source magazine. Yeah. I kind of saw where it was going. And he never responded. But later on in life when I got out he contacted me. It was like man I got a podcast idea. So me and him went together and did the podcast. And you know I help him with however I can. Yeah. But that's his company break beats is him and his. So you I mean will you I'll still be seeing you on there. Is that something you're going to continue to do. We're going to I think we're going to continue to do the snowfall. Yeah. Where we go in and we analyze snowfall. That was all his idea. You know I was totally against snowfall. I didn't want to have nothing to do. Yeah. I remember you telling or talk about it or anything. But yeah. That's what you said last show. Yeah. But once he brought it to me and I thought it was a good idea. And you know it's so much so much false stuff that's being given to our people. And I thought it was a good idea to kind of set the record straight. When you look at snowfall and you think that all of this stuff was going on. You know all the killings and the way they sold drugs. And you're like and they selling these false narratives to steal. Yeah. That's bad because it's not even real. I believe that it's promoting violence. It promotes selling drugs. And to first of all for John to do the show I thought was distasteful. You know me and him having dinner and lunch together and he not tell me that he's doing this show. I thought that was kind of distasteful. And then not to call me and ask me as a consultant. You know at least you would have. I mean right now we got a lot of guys that actually sold drugs in LA right now. That's gotten out of prison a lot of time. And for you not to consult with somebody who really lived that lifestyle. I mean any time for America to really see how people start to sell drugs. Why they sell drugs. I mean I believe they need the real the true facts about the drug business. They don't want to change it though. They don't want to. It's an industry that the country makes millions of dollars off of. Billions. Billions. Yeah. Billions. So I think they don't want to change it. The prison industry alone probably is like 58 billion dollars a year. 60 something billion dollars. Right. So like why you know they don't want to find a cure for this. Well some people don't. But if you had a child or a brother or an uncle or father or sister or mother that was on drugs and you want a cure. Do you like when you think back to when you first started dealing with drugs and dealing with these different communities dealing with the drug game. Can you even think back to the first because I forget a lot of stuff. You know what I'm saying. I listen to a lot of your interviews. But do you do you really reflect back because I can remember taking something from my uncle. You know what I'm saying. Like that's how I got started. I know exactly how I got started. You get started. I had a friend who called me and said that he had something that was new. And it was going to be the biggest thing they hit the hit the hit the planet for a while. And I went and he showed it to me. I didn't believe him. He told me to go and try it. And that's what I did. And did you take it. No. No I didn't use it. That's one thing I asked. Not at that time. Not at that time. Okay. I asked him a question the other day. And I'm going to ask you. And I always like when I watch the movies and somebody. Don't ask it. Don't ask it. No. I'm serious. When you're watching movies because I watch movies that's how I learn a lot of this stuff. And then you're going to show you nothing. They cut the bag and they taste it. Like you have to like do you have to taste it to make sure you're getting the good product that nobody is selling you no flour. When I first started I did do that. Okay. I never did that. That's what I did. That's what I did. Tell me if it was good. But it got to a point to where you no longer needed to taste it or anything like that. You put in a shaker bottle and throw some baking soda on it and some heat. No it's going to kill you. And then you know if it's good or not. Yeah for sure. Okay. Throw it back on that scale and see where they come back. Okay. I was going to ask you what's the most money you ever had to count with a group of people in your life. I like 3.2 million. How long did it take? I don't even remember. That's a long time. We had to count it. We had to count it. But that still takes a long time. Now when it was bad when you had to count that shit by hand that was like fuck. Yeah that took forever. And guess what? I ain't selling dope today because I ain't counting on money. I ain't counting on money today. No man like and just to try to clean it up like what was one of some of the resources that you used to clean it up dealing with that much money? Or did you even care to clean it? I mean it's easy to clean money. We dealt with detail shops in the country. You know it was the weakest little way that we had our little money. Everybody knew what was going on. Person get a detail shop or if a person take in and try to figure out ways to put stuff in the mama name you already know these avenues will be taken. Everybody knew it. My mama had 24 brothers and sisters. Oh wow. A lot of people I could slide and slide in their name. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Unk. I mean scared. I mean like I don't trust none of them. When they put in the newspaper you got a live sentence. All that property become theirs. Yeah. You don't need that. Yeah. All you're going to do is give it to that girl. That's so true. You don't think about it. Yeah. But you know the drug business is a ruthless business. You know and it's stressful. You know when I went to prison my oysters was messed up. You know I used to walk around with a bottle of that Maylac. Yeah. I drank it like water. Wow. Did you go through times of paranoia? Like a lot. I dealt with paranoid. Like I was paranoid. I thought everybody. And everybody talked to me. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I thought everybody was working with them. Yeah. Because you don't know who might be undercover. You don't know who might be a rat. All that. Talking on the phone. One phone for two, three weeks and chasing other things. And all kinds of stuff. Did you always talk in code to everybody or only to certain people? Like it became a habit when you said certain things. Well we really didn't talk on the phone much. You know it was very... Hey meet me at the restaurant. Meet me at the two sisters' restaurant. Meet me over here. Meet me at M&M's. That was basically the conversation that we would have. The thing about mine is that my informant, who was my partner, was wired. So it didn't matter. He decoded the whole conversation in court. Yeah. I remember a time when it was a drought and I went to Houston and I can remember a guy took me to the wrong spot. I told him meet me at the super one. But when he met me, he met me and then he took me around this corner. And in my mind, I was already angry because there had been a drought and it hadn't been moving in so long. I was totally ticked off with this guy to where it became violent soon as we even got out the car because I felt like he betrayed me. And I felt like he was trying to do me because I didn't really know him. These are the things that happen when you're trying to deal with droughts. You know what I'm saying? Did you ever have a drought? I had droughts but my droughts was never to where I was really going... No, I did deal with people that I didn't know. But the person that I was doing the deal with was supposed to know the person. Yeah. Yeah. But you know... This business is hard to trust people. You can't trust people that good. But it goes the same way throughout... Through life. Through life with all these businesses, whatever you in, I mean it's hard to trust people, you know. But the difference is when you're in a legitimate business and yes it's hard to trust people but you're not going to go to prison behind somebody else if it's a legal business compared to when it's illegal and you don't trust somebody they can send you to prison for life. But they worse. They worse. You might have to kill these. Yeah. I remember Dame Dash saying to somebody when he was owed some money by a corporate American it was so... The way they treat you is even worse because they can't do... They can't even handle the situation that they're creating. Right. I agree with that because you know they do it behind, you know, paperwork, computers and you have to face off with people who they're weaker than you but they just know how to play the game. Yeah. And they take more chances. They take chances. They're going to tell you kill me. You know in the street they ain't going to say that because they know you might do it first. What you say? On the street they be like don't kill me I'm going to take care of you. Yeah. You're right. But what do you say to people in the game right now who feel like man I got my partners that they down with me they this they that because I feel like no matter how much you grew up with this person or they're your family your mama daddy whoever if threatening the right way by the cops like to take away your kids your auntie or uncle whoever anybody can turn. Oh for sure. I won't say anybody because there are guys who stand up you know. Thank you. But I wouldn't take a chance you know why why take a chance on getting into something that the guy might be forced to have to tell on you. Yeah. His life might be on the line. Yeah. For him to tell on you but some guys you know some guys swallow those pills. Yeah no I've been I've been around like it's I look at young Thug and his situation that he going through I already know these conversations is going to get very very very intense when you deal with people who been around you and know everything that you got going and away from family and they never been in trouble. You know at least I had a few tickets and I had been locked up and I knew what I was up against and I had been through situations where I was in accounting for a while but and I had I didn't roll like but sometimes people you get the wrong people in the crowd and you don't know what they're going to do when they go in these room. No no you know when we used to see guys come in with 10 to 15 guys we'd be like three going in the room. How do you do you even I know you try to stay focused on what you got going but when you hear things was going on with young Thug and the way that that situation is unfolding how do you what do you think about that. You know I met young Thug. You met him. Yeah he came out to one of my barbershop signings. Wow. In Atlanta and I talked to him and we swapped numbers and I think we talked on the phone one time and I was trying to really reel the young brother in. In your life you can really help your hood. Yeah. You know but but a lot of times we get we get confused and we thinking that the money we make legally can be doubled or tripled if we go back to the streets and it's like man the street dudes is trying to get out of the streets while you guys trying to go back into the street so we just got to purvey a message to our young people that they got to they got to learn how to compete with corporate America man that's where the real money is. No I agree. And we can compete you know like to me it seems oh man it seems so simple you know the way these guys you know I met some of the biggest people in Hollywood man and I'll be like how does Scott get his job. Really. You know we got to go and check who his mom and daddy is. Yeah. A lot of times those people will their mom and dad will prop them up. Yeah. Exactly. To make them look like they really not. They really not. Yeah. Yeah gotta do your research and figure out. But even like that's the one thing I've always tried to help with young kids because especially coming up in music game we've interviewed a lot of people in the music game and they'll still be sticking in the streets but some of these people are even bigger in the music making a lot of money even like mode three you know God rest his soul that passed away he was heavy still in the streets but then his music was still up here and he was going like like leave that alone like why wouldn't you but I could never understand why they can't leave the streets alone. Well what you said made sense about you know how they felt about the money. And the fact that most of these guys got their star from street dudes. Right. You know. That's right. Who got who got a hundred dollars an hour for studio you go to the domain. You go to the domain. That's real. So a lot of them get their star from there and they feel loyal to that. Yeah. Particular aspect of life. I don't know we interviewed in New Orleans big big boss Anthony Boswell. Do you know who that is. No. Because he mentioned in the interview that in his paperwork you know how when you go to prison whatever you got your paperwork back and for some reason in his paperwork your name was in the paperwork. Oh man I saw that. Yeah he didn't say that it was before he went he said that's what he was. That guy was bull. Shit from the start. So you don't know him. I never heard of him before. Then why so you don't see your name was not in his paperwork. He wouldn't know if he don't know it. I don't know the guy I never heard of him but the stuff that he was saying this was something happening in Oklahoma. Yeah in Oklahoma. In 80 what do you say 84 or something like that. Yeah it was early on. Nobody even implemented the CIA into drug dealing into 96. Okay so there's no way your name could have been on his paperwork. How could it? I had never been to jail in 84. I didn't go to jail until 89. Wow. Wow that's crazy. Because maybe your name is maybe the name. No he had the name right. What people do and I don't know if you heard on there but he was talking about that Snowfall was based off of his life. No I didn't hear that part but we talked to him we interviewed him and he told us that because I asked him because I seen a little bit of that I was like so how was Freeway because I interviewed you. So I was like how did his name end up in your paperwork and I don't think he went into deep detail he just said he don't know how. He said he because he don't know you he never met you but I'm like how why would they put his name in your paperwork if y'all don't know each other that don't make no sense. Absolutely no sense. So I mean do you have you've had your name used in a lot of situations and I heard you say on one interview that I think you said three or four people don't misuse your name for as you know like trying to use your name or trying to do different things with your name. Well people you know people are cloud chasers you know and they don't want to do the work. You know a lot of people don't want to get out here and earn their position you know so it's easier to drop a name you know and have nothing to back it. No I get it a hundred percent do you. So I didn't even. You didn't even entertain him. This is the first time I ever mentioned it but when I heard him talk you know and even the interviewer you know I felt that he should have said where's your paperwork you know what's the court number you know what's the dock number. Yeah let's go pull that up out of the docks you know because you know you know like I do the court paper is a record. Yeah and you can get them you can actually pull them back up. She'll be able to pull them up any time. Yeah it's public records right. So when I heard him saying that you know I mean why would you mention somebody that you never met and never met you. Wow. You know how would I even know I mean how would I even know. It was just a waste of time nothing. What about the Frank Lucas you and him back in the days did you tell him. I never met Frank. Never met Frank. I met Frank. Lewis Farrakhan did a drug podium and we met there. Because his time was a little before your time. Before my time. That's right and it was more I guess. He did heroin. Heroin was the thing back then. We were different totally different. Who was the who was who you think and I'm not trying to put you know. Who was the like like the movement was like the biggest movement was it that heroin movement or was it the crack. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even you know. I mean I talk about my past a little bit but that's not really what you passed it. I'm past that you try to make it through. People ask me who had more money you were meeting. Me. Yeah I didn't think about that. I was. The only thing I wanted to say. I wasn't the money part I was going to ask about with Meach. I was watching the BMF documentary the other day and I know when you watch shows or documentary you're like how much of this is really true. But then the only thing I saw where they mentioned on you is when he was walking through the casino and they were introducing you know people and you somebody was acting as you. Oh yeah this is Freeway Rick Ross from the whatever was that true where you met him in the casino for the first time do you remember that. I don't remember meeting Meach. The first time I met Meach is when they got arrested and Wendy Day wrote me a letter and asked me if I would talk to him about his case. Oh okay. And so we kind of built up a friendship through letters and when I got out of prison we talked on the phone a few times until I wasn't able to take his calls anymore by appeal. So when we see documentaries, documentaries don't mean that it's. Well that's not a documentary that's a scripted series right. That's just a scripted series right. So in that movie the documentary is what I actually watched was his documentary. Wow. And they showed that part where it was in the documentary. Maybe it was you know at that time. Right. It could have been. He was walking through this. I think it was in Atlanta he was in Atlanta and he was walking through the casino. No I wasn't in the casino in Atlanta. There wasn't a casino in Atlanta. He would have had to be somewhere else. No. Vegas. Vegas. The casino might have been in the casino it was like. Yeah it was no big casino. The only time he would have probably saw me in the casino was doing the fight time. Oh yeah. I would go I don't gamble but you know I started going to fights and you know. But do you know that sometimes like with these stories that's why I was asking you about thinking back trying to figure out and reflect on everything there I think there's going to be some truth but everything's not going to be a hundred. Oh no even in my movie you know we got some stuff where it would be made where it's movie friendly. You know even it would make it exciting with my book it has to be you know there's some stuff in there that made it reader friendly. You know if it had just been me telling a story it's not as exciting to the reader and you have to entice the reader you know where St. Vincent the writer talks about the shoes that they were wearing you know and some of that stuff is made up you know what kind of shoes they were wearing because I didn't remember what kind of shoes I was wearing but the writer knew what kind of shoes were wearing and they just put it in there because you know it stretches it out. And you've done a documentary on your life before right? A few of. Right so and when you do a documentary is it a hundred percent true? I tried my documentary is when my documentary is talking heads so it's just people coming on telling me what they remember it's not a script. A walk through your life type of thing. Yeah right so like let's bring up Kenny B the guy that the young kid come on my show and he was on pills, perks the whole time right? He been in the rap game and recently he quit and I was happy about that actually. Yeah probably. And basically. Lucky for him. But tell I'll let you tell the story. No so when he came on the show and he spoke about he said that when he went to sign his deal because you know when guys get in the music industry they're eager to they have this drive they want to make it a sign and somebody introduce him to perks. So he took the perks and the first time he took the perks you know he love it. You know we human beings we go through issues we go through problems and stuff like that and sometimes you tend to want to forget your problems so to him he's like when he took the perks it made him forget the problems and that was it. So he got addicted he took it for four years and then one day I think he was losing so many friends dropping you know left right and center whether from perks you know. And addiction got stronger. Addiction got stronger whatever and his music is so good where his cousin one of his cousins who used to sell it to him told him I'm not going to sell you no more drugs and they actually thought because he wanted that bad that's how bad he was addicted to it and they're like I'm not we're not going to sell because you're not doing the music like you used to you don't have that drive no more because he said when you stop because you you chill you relax and life goes so anyway he put it out on social media that he gave up on it and it was so surprising how many people reach out to him and was like how are you knocking this how are you doing this because so many people want to knock this drug and can't and even one of the guys who did you know reach out to him and he told him how to do it he said he would take aspirin for the headache and for a whole week you know a person is literally heroin it's another form of heroin one of the guy that reached out to him died three days later but the reason I brought that up was because just the fact of fitting all you know they spiking those with fitting all exactly fitting all like you seeing all the stuff rushing through our people this fitting all thing it's really worse to me than what crack was doing and all that because it's killing people well you know me I was that I grew up with who got pretty wealthy into into the cocaine game little Tommy we were talking other day about guys killing their customers wow you literally killing your customers well we used to why would you want to kill your customers you need return customers it's part of the game though that's part of fitting our game some of your customers are going to die sometime they get a kick out of them dying because when you die it makes the thing get past this I ask you because we've been in the game we know what is the thing that can get us past this well everything comes down to being educated you know when our kids become educated to the fact that these things are and not only addictive but it also can kill you I think that they'll wake up I don't think we do enough education on drugs at all in this country you know we spend 50 some billion dollars incarcerating I bet you the budget for prevention is much lower and some of the books that I read said a pound of ounce of cure ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure I heard that before so we got to start thinking about cure no because it's so crazy because people when they're addicted especially once you take that first hit yeah you might know that's going to kill you yeah you might know that this is going to happen whatever no they don't know but I'm talking like it's education comes in place and some people feel like well it took away from my problems for that moment just like people who get into drug game okay example hold on if that was the case they would take rap poison but people who get into the drug game y'all always would say well I'm going to either die or end up in prison you know this for a fact but then they still full force in the drug game the drug game is a little different though if you have a drug addict you don't have a chance to become a drug addict see the guy who gave the guy who you talked about his first pill the guy party looked up to him yeah he thought he was important and that's why he was willing to accept something that came from him are there any functional drug addicts that's been drug addicts from for years so there are successful drug addicts then that's not your side business with the dispensary dispensary I'm still going through it with the city I think I think that we got everything lined up now here in LA my brand is still going good the LA Kingpin is still going good the freeway I'm revamping freeway right now but overall the weed business is going great for me I mean the other states boxing I need to have some boxing how many siblings you have because when I Google you have a lot of siblings I only have only have because Google only said one brother and it's the one that's in the coach of a Cubs team that's about the wrong thing it's wrong that's what Google said that's what Google said about the boxing the boxing before you get off of here one thing about you always deal with boxing on a whole another level like and you talked about kid Austin and last time I had a Canadian burnish card so I'll be in Atlanta already you are awesome everything going good in that aspect of your life I feel like that I just got off the phone with a kid that he's probably going to dominate boxing who is he I ain't going to miss somebody go get him right he ain't signed yet okay okay well tell us off camera so we know exactly who he is hey man I'm going to let him out of here man thank you so much for coming on you coming to Texas you got to come to my spot you come to Texas all the time don't you we was going to New Orleans or somewhere last time you came I remember I'll be to Texas I'm going to be working with a a sign to Texas you know he working with that new league yeah he wants me to come down and speak to his guys and so forth all right well when you come to Texas you got to come see me man CC going to bring you over there anyway thank you so much for coming on Boss Talk 101 it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the boss is talking