 Hey guys, how's it going? Tommy are you there? Hey Tommy One of these days you're gonna have to speak up just so we can just hear you. Is that the John Mitchell? Good morning. Good morning. Yeah, let's see Vlad. Are you there Christian or Doug? I don't see Mike's on you guys yet Hey ginger. Hey Doug, how are you? It'll just be me today Colin has another appointment. Okay Doug you're the coffee for sec. Yeah, good morning. Good morning. Mr. Mark Hey, Doug. Hey Bala, are you there? Yeah, I'm there. Yeah. Is this your first time in the meeting? I apologize. Oh, yeah So, yeah, I was not joining from long time. Actually, I joined after a long time Okay, so you should be an attendee list then. Okay. Good. No, I may not be there an attendee list It was very initially I joined. Okay. We'll come to you if you want to be associated with them So actually I'm from USC University of Southern California. I'm a graduate student. Okay, cool. Well, welcome Thanks. Hey, Doug. This is Vlad. I know I like yep. I gotcha Excuse me. Actually in my name in the last there's one letter missing. It's P-A-T-I P-A-T-O. Thank you very much. Sorry for that. Yeah. No, no, I apologize Hey Doug, this is Varun. Hey Varun, how's it going? Good, good Hey Doug Christian here. Hey Christian, welcome. So hopefully this is actually gonna be a very quick call for semi-selfish reasons There's a CNCF phone call going on at the same time that I know some of us would like to join But on the positive side, we actually don't have a lot of the agenda. So No workout. Okay Let's see Vladimir you there Good morning. Good morning. Hey, Mohammed Hey, how's it going? Good Hi, Eric, you there All right, Ian, are you there? Oh, no, Mike. Yeah, Ian. Oh, there we go. Ian. Are you there? Ian, you're off here Hello, I'm here. Hello. All right. Let's see Clemens. Are you there? I Am There's someone else went flying by that's me, Doug. Oh, it's Neil. Neil got it Yeah, that's it. That's what I was thinking of but then I also noticed Tim. Are you there? I'm here Hey, if anybody is interested in Knative, just see what there's a meeting going on Right now, not that you should leave this meeting, but when this meeting's over you can join that one talking about the governance of Knative and The link is in the chat if you guys are interested. All right, good. Just one more minute. They'll get started David, are you there? Mr. Baldwin? Oh Doug a long time. Yeah, it's been a while. Hey My schedule has changed so I have time again. Oh, cool. Just as we finished up. That's good Well for cloud events anyway, I know yeah Okay, Ryan Horn, are you there? Yes, I am. Is this your first time? I apologize if it's not I was in the The meeting the week before last so Okay, so you should be there anyway, so I don't need to ask you. Yeah, cool All right, it's three after why don't we go ahead and get started? Okay, so as I was saying earlier for those of you late join late It's gonna be probably a very short call Not a whole lot on the agenda, but also some of us would like to join the Knative Governance call is kind of going on now because it's kind of a hot topic for quite a few of us So let's see how quickly we can go through this stuff Community time so anybody have anything from the community they would like to bring up. All right moving forward Well from the broader community, let me say congratulations to all of you folks on getting to 1.0. Yeah, cool. Thank you And yes, congratulations to everybody very exciting So we expect any day now, right? AWS is going to announce support for it, right, right? Yes Just a poke on you a little Tim after your issue that you opened up a while ago All right moving forward SDK I Don't think there anything to report there. I think too exciting happened last week other than There I think there is a PR out there from Fabio looking for some LGTMs for upgrading to 1.0 for the job at SDK. That's good All right So is the is the SDK meeting immediately after this or when is that it's normally right after this But I don't think we have one scheduled for this week We do every other week, so I know just don't check but I think it's scheduled for next week. Let's talk check Yes, it's next week. Okay, cool. I'll join that one then. Okay, cool All right KubeCon San Diego Okay, so we do have the speakers lined up for our two sessions. Hopefully everybody who's speaking knows about it If you're unsure check out the session doc. It's listed here What we'd like to do is get a nearly complete rough draft of the presentation Done by next week So that the working group has a chance to look it over and make any changes before The event itself so if you are speaking, please try to get a as a complete draft as you can done by next week They are in PowerPoint format if you haven't trouble getting to it. Let me know I'm not quite sure how Google Drive works with PowerPoint in terms of walking or updating stuff like that. It's a little funky Also, we are gonna be doing the airport demo again. I would like the obviously everybody wants to upgrade to 1.0 of the spec What I'm going to do is this weekend update and the infrastructure from my side to 1.0 So things may break if your code doesn't support 1.0 yet If you have any concerns with doing that Please ping me you're or mention it now, but I would like to try to upgrade the infrastructure this weekend So people can start updating their code Okay, also we are planning doing a face-to-face meeting Yeah, I will send out an invite for the meeting It's gonna be Wednesday, November 20th at 2 30 if you are planning on joining Please add your name to the list here just so we have a rough idea how many people are gonna be there Okay, and obviously if you have agenda topics you want to add beyond these two Please go ahead and add that to the list everybody should have right access Okay We would I remember some phone call Google us were having talking about stuff We talked about possibly doing some sort of celebration kind of thing If nothing else maybe at least get together for drinks or something afterwards just to meet and greet everybody and celebrate You know Scott events go to 1.0 Nothing formalized yet, but what I'll probably do is add a link or add some information here If you're interested in joining some sort of celebration so we get a list of people who I could pick a place to go to I'll add that to the doc Okay, anything about coupon that I'm forgetting to mention that you want to bring up. All right, cool All right workflow haven't heard a lot from workflow. However, there has been actually Excuse me that has been actually quite a bit of activity going on in there We had two at least two other people I believe from red hat to a really taken interest in this recently So there's been a lot of activity there and as a result We look we kind of need to figure out what we're going to do with the workflow going forward in particular There's been a lot of push from that group to actually make it a standalone project and they'd like to actually Propose a new project to the to see going forward However, at the same time of as I mentioned that it is a relatively small group people So what we'd like to have happen on next week's call Kathy would like to discuss the next steps for the project itself and and like I said possibly taking a to see But also find out what other companies might be interested in rejoining the effort since it seemed to you know die down a little So please over the next week or so Go back to respective companies to see if you guys as a company or even as individuals are interested in working on the project So we get a sense of the level activity at interest from the group Because that may actually influence how we go forward In terms of you know approaching the toc So as I said not a whole lot to mention here on this call Other than I did want to mention that Kathy is going to be sort of updating us on what's going on there And what her next steps or her plans for next steps are going to be So if you're interested in that, you know, think about it and be prepared to mention your interests on next week's call Okay Any questions about the workflow stuff Hey, this is ryan. Uh, where can I read more about that? Just because I'm not familiar with that effort Yeah, um, if you actually go to the serverless working group github repo under cncf. I'll make this a link after the call Um, but there's great. Yeah from the main read me there. There should be a link to the workflow doc. It's just under that Gabriel Okay, thank you. Yep All right Uh, let's see. We have no prs. We had one come in with just a very minor typo. I did accept that pr It's just a one letter change. Um, obviously nothing worthy of Thinking about any release yet. So nothing much in there I was 1.0. I haven't noticed any changes to either these docs in terms of things to talk about So nothing needs to be mentioned And to be honest, um, I haven't had a chance to give any deep thinking about it. I don't know whether anybody else has We obviously could use the time on this call to talk about it. Um But given I haven't seen any activity I mean I've inclined to think most people have basically been taking the week off and People may actually be waiting for the face to face a kukon. So let me just sort of pause there and open it up Does anybody want to discuss those topics now? Do you want to wait for kukon? How do you guys like to proceed on this? I can confirm I'm waiting for kukon. Okay Yeah, me too. Okay Okay In that case Is there any objection then to assuming that we aren't going to do anything on these calls until kukon itself That way I can just remove from the agenda and that could help actually determine whether we cancel any calls between now and kukon because If we have no pressing engagements or pressing topics, then we may end up canceling calls So any objection to waiting to talk about next steps for kukon? Okay, if you guys will not be attending or if any of you will not be attending kukon And you want to get some thoughts out there? Please Put your comments in these two docs. The docs are not just there for listing Uh, the high level topics, but if you want to have a discussion about it, please add your comments to that doc itself There's no reason not to use that for that Or if you want to send an email, that's fine as well, obviously Okay Issue discussion nothing changed on these and nothing discussed there definitely no prs And I think that's it for the agenda Are there any other top? Yeah, I'm a fear of vacation too. Um, are there any other topics people like to bring up for discussion today? Okay, in that case, uh, alan are you there? I think they really you're the way the person that joined the call Okay, I don't see a mic for him anybody else I missed for attendee list Okay, um in that case Thank you all for joining and we'll talk again next week Please go back and check with your companies if you're interested in the workflow stuff So Kathy has a sense of the participation rate Um, a quick question for you clements What's your etn updating the slide deck just because I've had people ping me They're interested in looking at it sooner rather than later Uh, I will do that on monday and tuesday Okay, cool. Okay. Cool. Thank you very much All right, last chance any other topic from anybody or anybody for the agenda or for the attendee list All right, cool. Okay. Thank you guys very much. Talk again next week Okay, thank you. Thanks guys. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye