 Look at you. You've got muscles, yeah? Come on, you don't eat plants. Come on. This guy's lying. I've got scientists in my family. I know what I'm talking about. When I look in your eyes here, I don't believe in you. You don't believe me? You're lying. All right, brothers. Mike, drop. Hello, boy. Hello, who's this? Sit down. Sit down, guys. What's his name? Gucci. Gucci. How you doing? Hey, Gucci. Hello. On this sign, it says, if you're not a vegan, you support animal abuse. Prove me wrong. Do you agree with that or disagree with that? I disagree, man. Disagree? Okay, why? Tell me. You tell me. You tell me why. I'll tell you why. You seem like you're against cruelty to animals. Come on, man. I'm a dog lover. I love animals. You love animals. Come on. And you know what? Whoever talks bad about animals, yeah, they're PC. Yeah. So why do you eat them, then? We need protein. Yeah? Okay, yeah. The protein that you're going to get from vegetables, you can't get from animals. Look at you. You've got muscles, yeah? How do you put the muscles to gain muscle? Well, I've got something there. What do you take? Nothing. I just eat plant. Come on. You don't eat plants. Come on. Yeah, bro. I swear, I promise you. No, buddy. This guy's lying. No, I promise you. I'll tell you he's lying. All plant foods contain all non-essential amino acids, which are build-in-box protein, and all plant foods have them, just in varying degrees. So if you choose beans, they're going to have more protein than lettuce. But if you choose tofu, that's going to have more protein than beans. But you can get TVP, which is tofu. Buddy, I'll tell you something, yeah? You know, tofu, yeah? Tofu makes you die early. No, that's propaganda. That's propaganda. I promise you. Soya beans. There's nothing wrong with soya beans. They're good for you. They're good for you. Full of calcium, iron, fiber. You know, too much of everything is no good for you. You know what? I've got scientists in my family I know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking serious right now. You love animals, but you eat them. And you said it's because you need protein. But if you found out that you can get protein from plants, you wouldn't eat the animals anymore, would you? Buddy, I'll tell you something, yeah? If there was somehow that people would get the protein from anywhere else, then you wouldn't eat the animals. Buddy, they would do that. But you know, you can't get it. And you know, you could only eat red meat, yeah? Because my cousin, yeah? He was a bodybuilder. Yeah. Yeah? And you only eat red meat once a week. You know why? You don't need more than that. You don't need it. Why do you need, I haven't eaten red meat for nine years. You're lying, buddy. You're lying, buddy. I promise you, bro. Because you know what? You need red meat to do the muscles over there. No. I grew more muscles as a vegan than I was when I wasn't vegan. I'll tell you something, man. This guy here, I want to see you. I want to see what you eat. Because you know what? You can't do these muscles. No, you can, bro. I promise you. Well, maybe you just... Well, maybe you're not right on this one point. Maybe you're not right on this one point. Buddy, man. Come on, you've got to be humble here, bro. You know what? Be humble. Two days later, yeah, I'm going to see you in a restaurant. You're going to eat steak. How much protein you need? No, no, no, never. I would never eat a dog, so I would never eat a cow. I wouldn't eat you, either. I wouldn't eat you. If you love animals, you shouldn't be wanting their heads to be cut off and eating them, like... Buddy, buddy, listen. Life, you know, this is life. It's a circle, you know. This is death. You're talking about death. Life is good, but death is not good. Buddy, look, man. If you don't kill the animals here, how are you going to live? You can't get the protein that... I'm nine years vegan, bro. This is vegan, Taru's not fake. This is real. These muscles here are not from vegan. They're from animals that give you... From before? No, no, from before nine years ago. They're giving you vitamins from vitamin pills. They're still... You know what? We've got vegan vitamins. Vegan vitamins. No, man, I don't believe in that. You know what? We'll just be open, because maybe on this occasion, you might be wrong on this point. That's all I'm saying. I'm not wrong, man. You know what? I've got a lot of family... Because I'm living proof that debunks you right now. I eat a lot of fried tofu. I eat a lot of beans. I eat a lot of oatmeal. I eat a lot of fruits and nuts and seeds and flax seeds. And I eat a lot of pasta. I eat a lot of broccoli and lentils. That's spit to the everybody. So I've got enough protein. I can get between 100 and 150 grams of protein each day. But if I'm training, I try to shoot for 150, 160. But I track all my calories and protein on chronometer. So, yeah, man, I'm all good, bro. Well, you know what? I'm trying to believe in you, but you know what? When I look in your eyes here, I don't believe in you. You don't believe me? I just study psychology. You know what? When I look at you and you talk what you're talking, you're lying. How can you prove that? But how could I be so detailed in my... Buddy, listen, when you're talking, yeah, your body language says that you're lying. Oh, I can't prove to you. I'm not. What I can prove to you, though, is let's get my chronometer app out. And if you think there's no protein in plants... You're trying to prove yourself wrong, everybody. You know what? It's a lie. Let me just show you, all right? So if you think there's no protein in plants... Well, you don't think it's protein in tofu? Of course there is protein in tofu. But tofu is not that good for you. OK, well, what else then? OK, scrap tofu. If you don't, I eat it all the time. I think it's healthy, but... Yeah, it could be healthy for you for the moment. Lentils. Let's go. Lentils. Lentils. Here you go, lentils. You can get lentils from the store just to show you. There's 90 grams of protein in a kilo of lentils. Yeah, I believe that. OK, so I'm not saying you're going to eat a kilo of lentils, but... Lentils cooked. 1,000 grams. We've got 90 grams of protein there. Don't want to have a kilo worth of food. Let's type in TVP. Textured vegetable protein. 200 grams. Here we go. That's 100 grams of protein. But look at that. Look at the nutrients. Copper. Look at the calcium. 500 milligrams of calcium. Copper, iron, manganese, phosphorus. Look at that. 100 grams of protein. Don't want to eat TVP. This isn't chicken pieces. Let's go. 200 grams. Let's go. 46 grams of protein. Very good. So here are some options. Lentils. Don't want to eat that much food. TVP. 100 grams. Don't want to eat TVP. Got this. Isn't. Let's go. One more gluten flour. Now, you can make this in to Satan by mixing water with it and 100 grams. 75 grams of protein. So there you go. There's ways of getting protein from plants very easily. 100%. But it's not... 100% now? You said no before. No, no, no. I'm saying 100%. Yeah, you could get the protein from plants, but there's certain protein that you can't get from plants. Which amino acid is it? Not amino acids, buddy. I'm talking about meat products. Like, if you didn't have meat products in this world, you won't be able to live properly. 100%. But I've just showed you that I'm living. No, man. I'm proving to you I'm living. I'm believing that you're lying, because I believe that you're lying, because when you go home, you're probably eating sex. Okay. Wagyu. Wagyu. I would never eat an animal. No, man. He's lying. He's lying. Don't believe him. You know there's protein in plants, but you think it's not good enough protein. You won't live properly with this protein from plants. And the only reason I exist... No, no, no. You could live on it, but it won't give you that protein to live a better life. So, let me show you something. I'm going to show you the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. You can look up this organisation. I would love to see this. Do you think that they're wrong? Oh, I would love to see this, because you know what? Okay, so this is the position of... The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics is one of the biggest nutrition organisations on earth. There's about 50,000 doctors and nutritionists. Okay, okay, okay. It says it is the position of Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned, vegetarian, including vegan diets, are healthy, nutritionally adequate and may provide health benefits for the prevention of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and the athlete. So that means for bodybuilders as well. Oh yeah, I believe that. So this here is their position paper. And it says, it's like a review of all the literature, basically. So this is research, and it kind of goes against what you're saying here. Oh, you know what, buddy? If you believe everything you read here, you must be the stupidest guy in the world. Oh, you know what? So I was supposed to believe you? I'll tell you something, man. You know what? How much money you got on it? None. Buddy, a queen or something? Apple, five grand. Five grand. She's got five grand in his pocket. Come on. No, no, no, I don't have five grand. What do you want to bet on, though? I think one grand, then. What on? Man, what you're saying is not true, man. Everyone's got their own opinion. That's right. Not everyone's opinion is right, though. Your opinion, that time might say something, but what you do is something else. And we don't know what you do. You're accusing me of eating meat, aren't you? Buddy, buddy, listen. I hope people can see what you're doing, yeah? I mean, you could do what you want. I'm not judging you. I don't need me, brother. I promise you. I actually don't need to defend you. I'm not defensive over it. You've got these muscles, I'm not eating meat. Yeah. Like, heaps of vegans do. They're all vegan too. And you're not taking tablets that contain, like, meat. No, no, no. Vitamins. No, I have a supplement with B12, but that's not animals. Buddy, where do they bring these supplements from? They don't come from animals. No, no. They don't come from animals. You need to trace where you get your stuff from, man. I believe, I believe, whatever you're doing in life, it's always an animal that's bringing the vitamins or the minerals in your body. It's always an animal. No, it's always a plant. No, it's always a plant, because the animals eat plants. You really think that your vitamins come from, plants. Plants. Come on, man. They already think plants produce everything. Well, if you bring it... If plants produce everything, why don't all of us eat plants? How about that? Yeah, all of you eat plants. If animals produce, they all eat animals. You know what? The animals are made of plants. It's always a plant. No, no, vegans, they die younger than people that meat is. Produce the research. Let me see the studies. Come on. Meat, it is. Live longer than vegans, man. No, no, no, not in the Epic Oxford study. It showed the opposite, I think. Look, man, uncles are fucking scientists, man. I'm giving you the facts. I'm giving you the facts. All right, well, maybe next time you bring your uncle down and me and him can have a chat about the science. We're coming like Australia, we... OK, maybe you see me on Sydney Harbour Bridge doing some debates, you bring your uncle down. Bring your whole family. We'll have a big, we'll have a big vegan barbecue and a debate, all right? No, no, vegan barbecue. Vegan barbecue, tofu only. We're going to have a wagyu barbecue. Vegan wagyu only. Vegan wagyu. You can't get the vitamins from plants. That's why the supplements and the vitamins and minerals they come from animals. There you go, everybody. Love you loads. Take care, everybody. Peace. All right, fellas. Mike's rock.