 Alright, welcome back to Big Talk from Small Libraries again at our 2 o'clock Central Time presentation, halfway through our afternoon of sessions. Honoring the past, moving into the future is our topic here, and Adrienne Juarez is here from Park City, Utah. Hello, Adrienne. Hello. Hi, everyone. Hi. Good afternoon. Hi. Good afternoon. Sorry? I was just going to give an introduction. Yeah, and Adrienne, their library did some great renovation recently, and she's going to share with us their experiences with that, so go ahead and take it away. Thank you. Well, hi to everyone out there, my name is Adrienne Juarez, and I'm the director of the Park City Library, Utah. I'm a lead for some of that, and I'm going to have to interrupt you, Adrienne. Yeah, it's really, really hard to hear. Is there a way you can do a little closer to microphone headset or something? Is this any better? Yeah, it's kind of a muffle. Do you have the ability to, because we might want to switch things up here, to call in on the phone instead, to use the audio that way through a telephone? Sure. Because the headset is kind of muffled and hard to hear, unfortunately. We're not recording my computer. Let me just see if I can make that work in a second. Adrienne? Yep. Yep, we're here. I'm here. I'm not sure how to. What's your phone number? Sorry? How do I call in? I can try that way. Yes, in the login, the email that you received had a phone number for logging in. When you actually registered, I'm going to, when you registered it would send you a confirmation email and that would have a phone number. Do you know the access code? Yes. I'm showing it. No digits, please re-enter your access code. Is it the access code? Now, your hashtag. And then in the audio section of your... The access code you entered is invalid. You enter. One, five, two, four. It was the access code. One, four. It was the one, four. It was followed by the pound or hash time. The one, five, eight, seven, four, seven. Okay. You enter. No digits. All right. How about this? Hold on a second, Adrienne. I'm going to get you some... I'm going to get back to you behind the scenes. And I think we might switch up our schedule a little bit here so we can get you the information to log in. Hold on just a second. Meg, are you on the line? Can we jump to you in ahead of time, ahead of your schedule? I've unmuted you, Meg. Meg, are you there? I see that you're logged in for a lifelong learning session. Oh, she may have stepped away. Meg, are you there? Can you hear me now? I can, yes. Is it better? Yeah, it's still not, but I think we'd rather do it on the phone. Okay. All right, everyone, we're going to take a short break, get with Adrienne to see about getting her switched over to telephone. I apologize for this, so just hold on for... Okay, well, people were saying that was a little better. Go ahead and try again, Adrienne. I mean, to talk. What do I do? Sorry. Just try to test your audio a little bit better. Okay. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? It does sound clearer. Yeah, let's hear, hang on a sec. I'm going to give you back control to share your screen again and let's see if we can do this. Yes, that's much clearer. Whatever you're doing. Sorry? Can you hear me now? Yes, yes. Okay, very good. All right, go ahead and try again. Yeah. All right, are we on? Yes, go right ahead. All right, let's try this again. Well, I worked out the tone. Once again, I am Adrienne Herrick, who is a library director for the Park City Library, which is in Utah. I have been the Park City Library Director this summer. It will be three years. Prior to that, I was with Salt Lake City Public Library. And I also wanted to say hi to everyone from Kansas. I used to run the Utah Flynn Program, the Distance Regional Program. So hi to everybody from Kansas and also NCLA. So I wanted to share a little bit about a renovation we just went through. Park City, Utah is ranked as Outside Magazine's Best Active Town in 2013. So we are on Mountain Count. I've got a few quick facts about us. We have a population of 8,058, which is from the 2014 estimate. We are 32 miles southeast of downtown Salt Lake City, which is up a beautiful canyon here. We have three major city resorts. So that's our industry, really, is a lot of screening. We've got your value on resorts, Kansas resorts, and Park City resorts. And at times, our tourist population exceeds our permanent residents. So while we have 8,000 people who live here permanently, we can fill this town sometimes at moments with about 80,000 people. Our population is 25, almost 25%, Hispanic, Latino, which is important for our service model. We have a large service industry and many of those folks live here sometimes part of the year and we provide service and with standing services to that population. Park City was based on a mining history. So Silver, Gold, and Lead were discovered in the 1860s until we're really an old mining town. We have a film festival, which is held here at the largest US festival. And in 2002, the Olympic Winter Games were held in Utah and many of them were held here in Park City. So the town is very proud of that. And what I wanted to talk about today, as I know many small libraries are in communities, they're very proud of our history. A way to, when you move forward with a renovation or a building of a library, how do you honor the past while you move into the future, our residents? As we just did our renovation, we're very concerned to preserve the history of what Park City stands for. So our library is in the historic high school. This is a picture of the building. It's a beautiful old high school. 1927, 28. And when we proposed the remodel, which was completed last summer in June, we had the architect really, the community wanted to focus on this historic gem. And in doing so, he wrapped it with something that was aimed to highlight the historic architecture, but also give us more space and create kind of a modern entrance. There was no clear entrance on this building as it was in old high school. It's the architectural rendering of a proposed wraparound addition to the building, which is now in place. And while we did this project, which took a year, it actually, the whole interior was done in addition to the addition. We moved out of our building in entirety. We could not be here while we modeled the building. And we moved into our central park where we had a minor's hospital. This is the building that held less than half of our collection. But we were housed there at the temporary location as they did our construction process. And this was a very nice connection to history. So as we moved forward in time and put in a lot of beautiful new amenities into our building, we got to connect with this whole building, which is just beautiful. I was born here. So they were very excited that we connected with that piece of history. And the library was housed in that building actually from 82 until 1993. And then we outgrew that building and moved into our high school. And while we were out of our current building, we had nowhere really to put the books. So we got very creative. We had a lot of fun to do because this was City Hall. We literally lined the walls of City Hall's books and bookshelves. And we put books in our old fire station. In our mornings when we had our polis, so those people wanted, we ran around the city and grabbed books from all over. And people could actually put a self-checkout machine while we were getting a beautiful new building. They wanted to be sure that we kept the elements that they worked so hard on over the years and put them back into the building. And so I wanted to share some pictures of the things that they had done that were important to them to impact. This is a book spine piece. It's made out of wood. These are all names of people who donated to the library. And these are our distinguished donors that were managed by the Friends of the Library. And this piece was an entry way in the old building. And folks wanted to make sure that that was put back into the building. So we did get that back in. And I want to show you the other pieces that went back in a while. And these were pieces to make these folks happy in this renovation. This is a community tile wall. And actually, this is hand drawn. This is a community of this in 1982. And these are the names of people who donated and created this tile wall. We had a challenge getting this back into the building because the tile wall was probably 10 foot by 10 feet in the old building. It had to be removed and it was plastered to the wall. It was damaged and so we could not get it back into the new building. We had a local photographer in Mark Museum Arts and we have framed that now. And you can see every detail. He did a beautiful job with a large photography piece that honored everyone who had their names on it as we moved back into the new building. This is a commemorative piece when we had the Olympics here in Park City. This is a manhole cover that was designed to show the Winter Games in 2002 and people want to see this when they come in. And they look for them. We also have the Olympic Winter Games plaque and this is on the building when people came here for the Olympics. The library building in the high school was a feature and there was actually no names outside. We have a green field outside of our library. They noticed no names there and the King and Queen of Norway were hosted here as well so people were very proud of that and wanted to make sure that went back in. This is a piece that went back into our building which honors the history of the high school itself. So our newspaper is called The Park Record. They took some old cooking. They took photos of the old football teams, the basketball teams, some mining photographs and the marching band and we put that into a gallery area in the new building as well. There's a class ring and a class pen here from the high school. People have enjoyed seeing that and the story of the high school theme is that the field outside where we had that was angled down and that Park City would only run the balls down the field I don't know if that's true or not but I think it's a funny story. And then outside we have reading gardens. So these are handcrafted people in our community and the Arnold family those all had to be pulled up and then relayed because the whole landscape changed around the building as well as inside and we wanted to preserve that. We also have we also have this is a little harder to see but I wanted to try and show you this is a donation by Virginia and Ben Valer here so at one point in the community when we were developing this reading garden we were able to respond to ventures and we put those into storage during the project and brought those all back out as well. And then things like our local Rotary Club has always honored citizens with a warrant once a year and we put those back out of the library so that it brings people every night that much who we are and it honors our citizens and so those are back up as well. And as we underwent renovation the biggest thing I heard was people saying well why are we doing this we love our old library why do we need new amenities we have enough books we have enough computers the building is fine just as it is and so we spent a lot of time talking on the radio in the newspaper about the why behind the project and as we reopened we created some of these displays that really talk about how we cherish and preserve the history that also moves into the future in terms of energy sustainability and some things that really need to happen in the building like a seismic cold facility and these are some of the pieces we put up to help the public understand the need for the remodel now the next few slides are kind of little snippets that you can see that talk about that so this is just from one of those filters a little piece of it you know talking about the renovation preserving our history and like I said we weren't exercising a cold and earthquake to our reality in Utah we needed to improve our water and energy efficiency and we did it to comply with the request we had from the community for gathering and working and we actually did some surveys to ask what they wanted and this is what they told us the other thing was sustainability this is a close-up of one of those posters as well and you can see this is the old gym in the old high school here it's just a slowly shot there's the backboard for that basketball 1949 and then this is just a sneak peak I'm going to show you around the wall there's some modern features after the renovation that there's a sneak peak of what it turned out like in 2015 but it was very important that we make this a sustainable building that reflected kind of the mining center history and also our green initiative and we also wanted to so here's the renovation project there was no inch of the building that was untouched on the inside or the outside they took down an old right here I don't know if you can see it an old piece of the historic building that had been added in 1993 because it tried to match the facade and that did not allow it to be on the historic register so they removed that and they actually revealed the old building and then they highlighted it with the new part and now we are on the national historic register that just happened that we'll be celebrating with the wrong clocking name and so we're very proud to actually enhance what was already there and I think that helped we say oh that's right we had covered up part of the building in 1993 and now we can see it again and it's just beautiful with these cornices at the top that were hidden and I also thought I would now show you some of the pictures of the interior of the building to see why the community really wanted to talk this through because the interior is now quite modern so this is what it looked like during the transformation we have 54,000 square feet in this building before we started the remodel only 17,000 was really usable for the library itself we were housed in here but we weren't fully utilizing the space so the entire interior was dulled and what happened there is it allowed us to build some really beautiful historic building elements that were covered up with plaster these are beams under we have a 350 feet out of 21 our first floor in the high school and these beams hold that up those are gorgeous and we were able to be built as exposed and also to expose this old historic brick inside the building which just gives it this nice feel these are all of our bedrooms in the finished building we have bedrooms that have a high high usage and then also lights we were able to bring in lights from the outside before the remodel we still had classrooms that were off of the library that you couldn't get to from the inside of the library so now the library has one large interior with lights coming in at the classroom wall working down and that has been a wonderful remedy and this is looking outside this is the winter months of our construction that you can see that the old historic building is here and they're starting to wrap it with that new modern feel with lots of light coming in and I can now show you what they did on the interior so this is the new library inside at Park City and when you come in we now have a coffee shop so that was a very modern amenity and people have been thrilled by that one way that we preserved history and gave a nod to local culture is this art piece that's on the wall in the coffee shop and this is the piece by Daniel Whitehoff which celebrates our mountains and our seasons so this piece you can't see it in the picture and I wish you could but all of these lines the handwriting of people in our community our community that wrote their stories on paper and gave it to the artist and she worked the story into the beautiful art piece of our mountains and she designed the piece to be the summer fall winter and spring transformation as you see the colors change over the piece and then the painting discs are for our silver mining history that hang and float over it so that was one way we really worked in a bit of community spirit into this piece which you can see is quite modern this is the edition of the building the wrap around excuse me and then you walk into our new information area and we worked very hard to make it very light and open we do have self check out there and lots of display tables everywhere in power wall so we're very excited to open up and make the information that's very accessible first thing when we come in I'm going to show you around this first floor area first and then we'll do a quick look at the second floor this is the children's area when you walk in that's the first thing and that's been the case it's been very well used and one of the highlights that we really like was in we were able to get all of our picture book collection into your face out more than I know anyone who's used but they're lovely you can put the colors out mostly pre-readers and they can flip and look to those beautiful colors and make their selection our circulations have just skyrocketed sometimes once you go to see what they want to read and then this is a special feature we put in to make it there's also a very curvy building this is called our Mliners Milton and this is a fun created space space so back if you go into this little mountain you go through little doors you walk the ramp on the end and inside on the back of this mountain we have a magnetic wall we have a little magnet a little gear magnet and they have stuffed animals and puppets that do their own interactive stories and this was a nod to to Park City and the mountains and the histories here you can see the mountain actually lights up there's different colors even purple and green and they've changed throughout the day which is fun and then we were able to install a special location which has been fun they brought in lots of nice vibrant colors and then when you come off of the Children's Area this was a piece that meant a lot to us to celebrate kind of the history of Park City but also the new local libraries so this is our community meeting wall and what you see on this wall is a black and white image of Aspen trees so if you look at that like looking up into Aspen trees this black and white photograph if you can see this blue tail these are color images that are exactly the same as black and white photograph below and each one of these small bits of color is a four-by-four inch tile that anyone can buy from San Diego even if you can buy those $150 you can put a name on it and you can honor teachers who taught you to read you can give them more and all and that is starting to fill in this is on opening day but this is beautifully starting to fill in the color and the names of all our community members aren't going off on that wall which is a nice method and it's again with the local so this must be the other local photographer so that's a nice cherished piece of paper now this is looking at that staircase we got a grand staircase so the collections in our library are on the first two floors and that's what I'm going to show you today the first two floors and as you look down you can see that this is actually digital in the back so we did go for century libraries we've got collaborations on the IMAX with lots of high tech stuff on it we have two 3D printers in this area we do have a green screen and a family screen so we're very fortunate that we had the resources to put those into this new building so that's a very turn for centuries where we kind of a nicely splendid historic modern renovation now we're going back down at the bottom of those stairs we've got lots of display space and we have an audio visual area and we also put our graphic knowledge here so that is kind of in the center of the main floor and then we did something a little bit interesting first of all we told the community that our main floor was going to be our very active space so we got seating here for people to read and to watch their kids play, school, study but a lot of the quieter spaces are on our second floor so that we can accommodate everyone's needs and on this main floor we broke out the youth and teenagers and we're defining youth as the kids kind of moving into independent learning and kind of thinking that they're not necessarily wanting to be over the little ones and maybe picture books but they want their own area this is the youth area and we got a chance to make it kind of fun and vibrant and youthful this wall is actually a board deck that has been cut into strips and offset and then placed on the wall and then this is the gaming station so in both of our youth our youth area and our community we do have a the community as a workplace would come and hang out and be safe and have engaging activities after school and this is definitely bringing us in right behind this area of the classroom but I'll flip over to the teen area which is the teen area, they're both kind of on the other side of the library and the teen area near the youth area so we have the same number of classrooms they will pass through this area right here this wall for the teens is the snowboard deck which is very part 3 so we cut up snowboard decks for the older kids and then the older kids on this right can move right into that digital community a lot and see the 3D primary and we are bringing in kids where the sound is all the time, they're recording their phones and they're having a lot of fun and then we'll go up here so I took a big leap here just imagine that you kind of lost that background staircase but this is a quiet room so we wanted to accommodate all the members of our community and this is a room that's locked up with glass we have our magazine rooms there's a little outdoor room back here that's reading areas, quiet area people are filming those seats setting and then our material housing for the kids my mom is completely innovative and a lot of people have these shelves for the magazines so it's the first time we've had them and we're getting a lot of those seats and all the colors are up our face out and then this is our non-fiction collection you can see the beams in there in case you have better view of our non-fiction collection so this is that upper rail with the lighting and all the study people's hearing in our non-fiction area with the themes throughout of us behind these bookcases we have the rooms and those are filled all the time and then what you can see is our first book I did a peeking picture that we had we do have a 350 the auditorium and the gathering room that people can visit for events or conferences or community conversations and that thing is quite a bit as well and I just wanted to talk a little bit about the renovation and being more inclusive of the building and how we have been communicating and programming with community contemporary remodel Adrian before you go on to this I have a few questions that came in about the building itself yes please first someone said and I agree with him he says I'm in love with this library this is gorgeous I love the colors and how bright and open it is is so really nice and I'm also impressed with some of those earlier construction sites or construction pictures that apparently a lot of this was done during the winter it was it was one year time some couple of questions about the children's area where you had those the bins yes how are they anchored very well so they don't fall if somebody is pulling I guess Halsey they look kind of they look a little precarious don't they so they are anchored to the floor they actually drill down into the concrete nice at carpet and they pull to the floor and generally this is just for the picture I don't have all of the bins pulled out at once usually kids will go up to it and pull out one drawer at a time or maybe one or two kids are wrapping at a time so I think it's just one or two drawers pulled out it doesn't look quite empty yeah now this is a very interesting different way of displaying the children's books is there any sort of some circulation data did this increase the usage of the books because of how they displayed that way yeah we had before in our building we had about 95,000 visitors a year it looks like we're going to hit 140,000 plus wow this first year of opening our circulations have done just about the same almost double really so we've been very pleased I think those space outs make a huge difference display tables everywhere in this library and it's been really wonderful they all take a turn maybe more rotations with two weeks to get to clear topics so books are flying out the door now this is our first year so whether those numbers will keep growing forever I don't know about right now we are having a lot of excitement cool in the youth room also there was back to that picture someone just said is that a hamster cage behind in the previous picture guinea pig ok close just saw that peeking around the pillar there and if we ever tried to get rid of the guinea pig that was a historic case at Ulta the kids would not have been happy no the guinea pig in is popcorn oh nice ok popcorn the guinea pig in the youth room you had artwork on the wall what did you say that was made up of the big display on is it this one I'm not sure exactly one what did you say is on the wall in the youth room I think it might have been the one that was snowboards that might have been the one yes let me go back to that those are skateboard decks that yes what is that one those are skateboard decks and they were cut they cut off the end of the skateboard skateboard they first took off the wheels they cut the decks into four strips so you know how they are very colorful on the underside and then they offset each deck so that you can see let's see if I can pick out this is one deck they put it right and left you can see the colors gathered together yes you can see how they could match up this purple here is all one skateboard ok nice and actually talking about that other one that looked like the trees and has the full color tiles that eventually get is the idea that one will eventually become full color because of people yes choosing and to do that so we will not see the black and white eventually it will be the full color and it's beautiful all colors the sky you see the sky here in blue and then these beautiful white aspen the trunks and then the these are orange and yellow they will be used as that filter very cool very creative and we did change our logo to an aspen leaf with a book at the bottom because of the mountain town we have a lot of aspen trees and of course the aspen growth is all connected at the roots so all of these individual trees coming up through the ground that everybody connected at the roots so we really have gone to the aspen as our logo ok cool I'll let you go ahead and continue then with your presentation while we were looking at those pictures of the building that's great let me know if there are any others here's an example of a display table and we chose nesting tables ok I see and those are throughout the library on both levels as well so let me go back really those are the images of the building now we're going to talk a little bit about this project seeing more than just the building so along with the other pieces that needed to come back in we really respected all of our history as kind of the tradition of Ms. Katrina we have a story like our sweet little popcorn guinea pig if Ms. Katrina wasn't there every day when the kids walked in it would have been a stark contrast to what they were used to so we made sure that we really kept going with those programs that they were very fond of and we've done a lot more publicity about them and then of course we're adding because we haven't done anything we've been able to expand on that so this is the program the dual language immersion film so it's nice for us that we have an auditorium where we can show movies that we've partnered with the Park Street Film Series and the Summit County Library this is our new Ask Henry logo and we alternate French English films and Spanish English films with subtitles so French or Spanish with subtitles and that's been popular and then we really started to do a lot of technology training because in the new building people are still getting used to this 21st century model of there are more computers here there's a lot of technology that we can take advantage of and we've had such great participation and then the other thing that we've been really working on is our service particularly to our Spanish speaking population here there's a community group it's a Latino advocacy coalition with people from the school district our mayor sits on it our city manager sits on it I sit on it and our rep department sits on it to try and create programs and services that are driven by people in this community so we've got a new partnership with the school district where we're doing ESL tutoring partnerships and that was requested by this group so we're very excited about that and then programs like Little Biz hopefully everybody knows Little Biz is a little electronic kind of like a little electronic logo the keeper having fun and then we also did some publicity pieces to celebrate the history that went back in so when our tile wall was reinstalled we made some publicity about it so that people can see that hey if your name is on here those tiles actually didn't provide the construction but here's a gorgeous photo piece of your name and the tile where you will plate in 1992 and then we're also teaching a lot of new technology skills so we do library hacks and we have some TV screens that are located on the wall both on the first floor and second floor and we're teaching things like downloads books and e-books now e-books aren't new but a lot of people now that we have this new library are coming in and showing a new interest so how do they download their e-books so we're really doing a lot of teaching along with the new building here's another library hack which is fun, take technology home with you so we have a case in our digital media lab that has all kinds of new technology some pro-pros and drawing tablets, video recordings and the items can be checked out so we're teaching people how to check those items out and then here's this Katrina with our patron Jacob they are playing Xbox in me at the library which is a really fun thing so the kids are flocking me and the kids and we really wanted a new library to engage and then the most important thing in any project, this is the wonderful staff of the Park City Library nothing could be done without them they moved to the library twice they moved out of the old high school which was the old library into minor hospital in city park they picked books up every morning city hall from the old fire station and they smiled throughout and then they moved it all back we literally had to calculate every centimeter of shelf space and fortunately it all fit back in and they're doing great we're learning as we go the community's learning but we're also celebrating our past and the future so it's been a wonderful, wonderful adventure and does anyone have questions? Okay, great thank you Adrian now we've got things going and sounding a little better yes we do have a few more questions if you do have any other questions for Adrian about Park City Library type them into the questions section of your go-to webinar interface if you hadn't been doing that already someone does want to know what the total square footage I know you had the addition on what was the before and then the after we were utilizing about 17,000 square feet in the old library because there were classrooms that we couldn't access and now we're utilizing 54,000 square feet we opened up the entire interior of the building that is a huge the auditorium by the way so that is a big auditorium on the third floor which you didn't see what's the size of your staff is this everybody or is there more? well we didn't have everybody there that day so that's about 11.88 FTE so that's about 18 people okay someone wants to know the manufacturer of the shelves that you had made where did you get the shelving from? we use space savers space savers okay cool and is there security cameras to monitor the areas that look very open and lots of walls and things is there a security system or how do you keep an eye on the whole place? yeah that is important because we do have a small crew for such a large building and it's very open we did Park City the city itself has a very vigorous program we have a gentleman who works for the city and puts the plan into all of the public building so we were fortunate that the city provided cameras and we do have them located kind of strategically throughout the building put them on collections but we do have security cameras okay great you had mentioned being green because there's a lot of open space and I know there's a lot of windows was there any sort of special accommodations for energy saving measures because of that? there were and that was a huge piece so the project started out and City Council had voted for the renovation but as the planning process went forward they realized that they wanted to green the building so they added money to the project generously and the walls were inflated they put in LED lights throughout the building and they actually replaced the roof we had a barrel roof that the way the snow in the wintertime we get heavy snow but the way the old building was managed to turn the snow on it was not there enough weight to have snow on there and really they didn't inflate it so that they keep the building up and out and melt the snow so we got a new HVAC system they put a new roof on which actually holds in heat now and so we have that Leeds Kilbur standard just a new roof alone can make a lot of difference yeah, oh yeah absolutely you mentioned that they did the approval for the building someone said where did you get the funding for all the remodel? I'm not sure if that was mentioned before or not sure, we have an RDA fund that we were able to do and the RDA fund is covering a number of development projects within Princeton, the library was one of them to be able to be a part of that re-development agency money someone wants to know about programming a couple different questions how many team programs do you do first of all can you repeat that how many team programs team programming team programs team programs have been our weak spot historically and we just got a position approved fortunately for someone to help us focus on band services and team services so we have programs that are we have some kind of passive programs with doing the coloring the new trend in everybody's coloring and we do some things that are kind of more for you like our label club we have some craft or new programs we've got some films and things but as soon as those new programs get there we make an offer to someone we intend to up our team program so I will say we are having star wars today coming up yeah that's fun and we then Katrina is also into acting and has an improv group that has come and done improv with our team that has been a lot of fun now also related to programming when you were in the minors hospital how did you run it there how did that all oh my goodness it was a personal one well really we didn't have any furniture so we took full cases from the library the old library in the historic high school and we just pieced it together it ran fairly smoothly there are four floors in that old hospital and we made a little children's area down in the basement and we pieced together some old shelves that made a situation there our own little library inside there and had technology in this old building and had just improvised with what you had at the time good, remarkable question I had, I loved at the very beginning you had the donations while the one that looked like books, oh that was gorgeous where did you get that done was there a local company yeah it was a local craftsperson who built that oh that's a wonderful idea and it's just beautiful I'm going back right now it was very creative I don't know that I've seen that I'm sure others might have but I had not seen it the tiles and bricks and what not yes that and so each one of those books is the name and those are treasures and then down here where the call number is it's the year that the person donated and I see there's still some blank ones mixed in there so you can add more as the time goes on yeah that's true the community naming wall where who did that one that's the tree one right we worked with a sign company called signs which is a local sign company in Salt Lake about 30 miles from here they designed the keys in cooperation with our architects and we actually have to run those tiles down to Salt Lake whenever we get a little batch and they print the names on them okay really it's a lot of looking I think a lot of people are asking these questions to see if they could do the same thing look locally to see who you have in town or somewhere in town near you that might do this kind of thing to bring in that kind of creativity into your building yeah exactly it's of course local artisans too that have these amazing ideas absolutely and just a final one I just want to know what's your annual budget, what budget are you working with there well we were fortunate we now are operating on about 1.2 million with after the vaccination the city council did approve a budget increase to help us with operations and your population served just over a little over 8,000 according to what you said right that's right yeah that's a small area yeah it is, I think it's a little bit we do give visitor cards as well and I was talking well tourism yes right yeah if we have 80,000 people staying in hotels early can somebody come in for a book so population fluctuates a lot with the tour right of course yeah okay that's great I think that will wrap it up for this session then thank you so much Adrian sorry about the the sound issues before we did do tech test with people I'll tell you guys on who are watching we did do but you never know what happens when you're going live yeah and I've put my website up here on the screen if anybody has any questions or would like to contact me my contact information is on that and I'd be more than happy to help anybody who is thinking of doing projects or would like to know anything more about the Park City Library great thank you yeah there's a lot of good information I think you give just about renovation in general but the release of the title of your presentation honoring the past keeping all of that carrying that over into the new building really I think makes a difference to how it looks and feels and to the community and I think that's did a great job of that absolutely thank you we're having a really good time in the new library all right thank you Adrian wrap it up for this session