 It's like to be different in a culture that expects you to follow the norm. Beyond race, of course, including race, you know, Amber, you're different. Well, I'm different. You are. What was, you know, maybe expected of you in ways, and you've really been a true trailblazer in your community, and you know, what was that like for you? First of all, I stand on shoulders of a lot of African-American women and men. I think for me and my family, they want to stay in their small city, and I just saw a bigger picture. That's what I meant when I said you're different. You saw the big picture. They know I'm crazy. But I mean, my thing is, I don't want to be different. I mean, I like being different, but I think normal to me is different, so I don't know. I grew up in a military family, so we moved around a lot, and so there wasn't really a norm. There wasn't a norm. Nothing was normal when I was growing up. I found out that I wasn't normal by talking to normal people. That's how I learned. I mean, I'm being a mix. Sometimes I can blend into... What are you mixed with? I'm Korean and Irish, but when I lived in a Latin community, when I first came to LA and I went to the grocery store and everyone was Spanish, and I was just trying to pick food. I didn't understand what some other things were. They spoke to me in Spanish, and I go, I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish, and this one man got so upset with me and going off in Spanish, and I'm looking at him like, I don't speak Spanish. I'm sorry. Did I say something? And he goes, why are you trying to be somebody or not? Why do you think you're trying to be white? Why are you letting go of your culture? Why are you this and this and this? And I go, he thought I was half Spanish. And I remember looking at him going, I'm Korean, and I had to speak in Korean. I was like, no, I don't speak Korean, and he's looking at me like, you know, and he kind of walked away. Well, now that you're talking about the Latino community, I think in the Latino community, what's the older generation? It's like, you have to be married, you have to have children. And it's like, I always get that when I go to parties, I don't have kids, it already passed. I'm like, I get affected, I'm like, I don't want to have children, I don't want to get married. Right now, you know? That's what they tell you. Well, I worry about that, and I'm stirred because I grew up in the Midwest in a very conservative community where most of the people were married by the age of 22, had a baby by 25, and I left four days after college, moved across country, not married, I don't have a child, I'm not going to have 30 wondering what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. And I'm a black sheep. I'm like a crazy spinster. Sure. But you know what though? I've always, you know, even just within my family, I've always been considered the one who, you know what, depending on the mood of how they're addressing me, I'm either the one that marches to the beat of my own drum, or, you know, if they're in a less benevolent mood, then I'm the crazy one. But I've always been comfortable doing my own thing. But I think African-American culture is different. Oh, absolutely. We don't. We look at life like, be happy, go after what it is you need to do, and take care of your business. And so I think sometimes we get the stereotype of saying, you know what, oh, African-Americans don't do this, or African-Americans don't do that. And I think that's a myth. Sometimes we do step out the boundaries, and we go for it. You know what? You're absolutely right. Because I can't tell you how many people looked at me with a side eye question mark when I told them that this past February, I went to Japan to go snowboarding. They're like, wait a minute. You went all the way. Did they look at you like that? Camping. And I can't tell you. I don't even know how difficult it is to get some African-American friends to go camping with me. But I think our generation now is a little bit different because we have a little more freedom, and we see life a little bit different instead of the confined segregation kind of, you know. I have to say that social media in that way I think has been so eye-opening. Because we get to see how other cultures live. Not just other cultures, but other cultures get to see what we do. No, no, no. They don't really get to see it. They get to see an idealized reunion. What we present to them. Of what we present to them. Exactly. Not anymore. Not anymore. But you know what though? Not with us, baby. I think some of the younger ones are kind of turning into the TMI generation. So with them, with the younger ones, you get on their social media, it's like, why don't you tell that to people? I mean, they just get to see it. I know. There's a lot of things. But there's good things too. Like us. Like us. But it's interesting too because in some ways then instead of people wanting to be different, they're seeing what they want to do and what they want to be like everybody else. I think I want to raise my children with their culture. Let them know who they are. But then also let them know they're not bound to the structure that society put on them. You can be whoever you want to be. And still be proud African-American. And still be who you are. Yeah. That's beautiful. More when we return to them. Yeah. After this commercial break, more Every Way Woman.