 Welcome to Toffy TV. It is the match preview Everton versus Nottingham Forest, a old traditional club returns to the Premier League. It's the second away game after defeat against Newcastle on Open Day, but it bounced back with a win last week against West Ham United. On the other hand, you won't be used to seeing Nottingham Forest playing in the Premier League, will you? I'm sort of a generation where I imagine people are the same when they look at a club like Everton. I think Forest is on a bigger scale. You know they're a massive club, you know they've got, you know, a big history, but in terms of my idea of big teams, Forest, I know they're one of them, but in a big, you know, in my generation, they're not. No, no, listen, without being disrespectful, I wouldn't say Forest are a massive team, but they have a great history around the 70s and the 80s, when obviously they won, when they won the European Cup and they won the league and stuff, and Brian Clough did absolutely brilliantly, and for the fans of that generation, very much, almost in a way, even though we've got a little bit more to us, the way we talk about the mid 80s and stuff, obviously, but they won a couple of European Cups and that's just unbelievable for a club like Nottingham and Forest, but certainly me growing up when I was a kid, not in a forest where a team you always looked upon as a good side of Brian Clough, was a big manager and when he left it all, I mean they all started to go south before that, they got relegated in his last year, I think they came back up maybe once or I think it's once and they were terrible, but hopefully for them for this time, it's built on better foundations, even though last season in the championship, they were doing absolutely terribly, they are one of those clubs that seem to have tried everything to get back, they threw money at it left right and centre, they had lots and lots of managers, but last year they started the season poorly, Cooper came in and changed everything for them, they went on an amazing run and ended up getting up via the playoffs and it's great to have them back because as I said for my generation they were a huge team, I remember, I know this we've just come off the back of a weekend that was the 30th anniversary, I remember they were the first team on Super Sunday, the 1-1 nil against Liverpool I think it was with a Teddy Sheringon goal, so in terms of history in the Premier League they've got plenty of it as well, so it is good to have them back, it's good to have them back in the Premier League after such a long time and it's going to be an interesting game on Saturday. Yeah obviously they'll be looking to get as many points as they can, I think that with them they've obviously you mentioned like they would know names of the bottom of the tailboard and these people who've come in who's a good coach or get proper organised, you loaned 12 players last season, so for them and a lot of those players obviously you know imposing players looks like Jed Spence and then they've come up and they've sort of thinking we've got to replace those players, other teams they might spend years of recruitment like seems like Brentford where they have a couple really good seasons, they get a team ready for the Premier League and then they come up and ultimately they've stayed in the Premier League and they've done a job. Task for Forrest now is to recruit well, they've recruited a lot of players and it'll be interesting to see how they do with the season, I think there'll be a good challenge for us on Saturday. It's really hard to actually know what the task is going to be because like you've just said there they had a lot of players on loan last season you know like James Garner which is a big huge part of the team and Spence and they've lost them but they've brought in something like 14-15 players as of recording, they seem to be linked to players all the time, I think they brought in, I think they brought in three or I think they brought in three this week, two or three certainly after the game on Sunday, so it's really hard to know what their team is going to be for this weekend because they're bringing in someone like Emmanuel Dennis, you imagine he'll go straight into the team but you're not sure because the task he's got of now is creating a team, putting them all on the same page, going from the team he had last season and the ethos of that merging that with the new players, that's going to be a difficult task for them and that's going to be really interesting, that's why it's really hard after only the third game to judge where they are and what they're going to do this season, I have no idea where they're going to be this season normally you would say well they've come up and they got up through the playoffs and you know you'd imagine they'll go straight back down because that's what happened to a lot of teams and you know I think Fulham did this when they came up, year before last they bought a lot of players in and they didn't, they weren't quite at the quality even though they brought a lot in, for a start you know they're bringing in different kinds of players, they're bringing in talented players you know they've given Jesse Lingard a lot of money to come and be with them in the Premier League and the money that they're going to earn from the Premier League they're certainly going to spend them, it's a sign staying in the Premier League so it's really really difficult to judge where they are right now because they're building something, we on the other hand are looking at the next two weeks as our periods of trying to bring in players, they've been bringing them in for the last month or so and where the team is now might be completely different to where the team is in a month's time or two months time because as all those teams, as all those players gel together and that makes it really really difficult to know what they're going to be on Saturday, I think what they are going to be is, Shane Lee showed them last week against West Ham is they're going to work really hard at times they're going to get the ball from back to front quickly into a lot of switching at the play, the work ethic as I said is 100% you know they give everything I think against Newcastle they try to stay as tight as they could for as long as they could I took a bit of a big goal from I think it was to change the game, West Ham very very unlucky last week you know had a goal this loud that 50-50 maybe they missed the penalty, they hit the bar, they had once cleared off the line, it was one of those days where you know not on forest day and that win it is going to be interesting what happens on Saturday, yeah I think the amount of players they brought in just means that we have to you know there's really we should be taking advantage of that, they've brought in a lot of players, they've replaced a lot of players it seems like they've replaced a few players as well that they had on loan they'd like brought like it's like Nico Williams in who had a really good game against West Ham, they brought Keattain and then they've gone and got Lingard who expecting probably that player like like Erickson went to Brentford last season and got them extra wins extra points maybe you can do the same for them which can hopefully for them keep them in Premier League the same with players like Dennis who hopefully can come in and score goals but I think for them obviously you saw how tight and compact they were against West Ham they were really you know they put their lives on the line to get those those three points you got to die for the three points exactly but you know they've got a situation now where they're trying to bedplay to the Premier League something they haven't played much in the Premier League you know they're a team that I haven't played against each other with each other before so they won't look like a great team they're not going to come out come and play great football and because they haven't been playing together long so we have to take advantage of that and and just get at them and try and break them down it'll be a challenge for us because like you said we haven't had a game like this before where like they've been sat and compact and tried to you know made it hard for us to beat because and and the other games this season we've played the fact that we haven't like scoring against teams what we could easily stretch and get in behind and and we had that extra bit of quality in final third we could have took our chances we've got to try and somehow create chances yeah that's the difficult part they're going to do they're going to try and do to us what we try to we've tried to do in our first two games or certainly a villa last week they're going to get men behind the ball and then they're going to probably try and hit us on on the counter attack and with the ball over the top and players like um Jesse Lingard has got the experience of playing in the Premier League and you know if Emmanuel Dhanist does play again another one and you know people will look at them because obviously we we will link to them for the majority of the summer look at thinking don't really want him to play um that's how they'll play they'll try and they'll try and nick it off a off a set piece or just trying to get the ball over the top and that'll be really difficult for us because we do struggle to break teams down you know the Frank Lampard sort of way of doing things certainly probably since March is to try and stay compact stop the opposition from playing and then break on them but when we've tried when we've had to do the other thing I go back to the Waffa game away that was the last time I'd say that there was a game where it was like you it's up to you to break them down and we we couldn't do it because we were we were nervous of of leaving the door open and and we couldn't quite get it and that will be the interesting thing because as we sit here now we you know Rhondda on her own are only recognized centre forward you know will will garner coming in time to play in midfield will deli leave the club in you know as the time of recording that you know then he's still at the club you know what will he do will he play that front three with all the speculation with Anthony Gordon this week you know I imagine he he'll still be at the club and he'll keep his place but do we put Rhondda on in there and and use him as as the centre forward it's because I I just can't I don't know I doubt that front three from last week see it's different because in those two games we were playing defensively in this game we've got to play offensively yeah yeah so does the manager say well actually those front three will get more joy in this game because we will be playing on the front front you know onana possibly going into midfield and suddenly stretching the play and maybe a times giving us a bit of an out ball in midfield there's it becomes a different it is a different kind of game so therefore the tactics maybe that haven't worked in the open in two games suddenly may that might change yeah well I was looking obviously the deli alley situation as well we don't know whether he's going to be here on Saturday at the moment and but you know before that came around I was thinking well I look at Chelsea and Villa and think well he might want to that pace up for us and try and you know stretch them and get him behind but that's not necessary for this game so I was looking at maybe getting Rondon there just because this is you know a recognized striker and that can be quite overlooked sometimes and maybe putting deli in there as well just for that extra bit of quality but with it with him going or whether he's going or if he's playing or not well obviously it does sound like the club have made their mind up a fault and that would suggest that they wouldn't play in this game anyway so that sort of shuts the door on that I do agree Rondon when he came on last week suddenly we were a different team but that that was see the other side of that though is that was you know he that was a bit later on in the game when he first came on he wasn't too much of a difference but when the game started getting stretched and saying he went on I came on and then Gordon went over to the left as well and we started to stretch them a little bit the game the game obviously opened up and that's where I think Rondon was something like five of five of the aerial duels that he was he was in and that suddenly meant we had something to play off and it would be interesting you know saturday you know bit of a cooler day playing at home do you nest him through the first 60 minutes and then look to change something later on or do you do the opposite where you like last week and say we'll put you on for the last half an hour see I would go for it for him from the start because I just think that in a game like this you need an out ball early on because they're going to come and be be compact and you need that out ball to get you up the pitch and be something different I had that from three last week to me he was saying in both games he just it's just got nothing about it but then but that's up to Frank Lampard and what he thinks well obviously last week we switched to a back throw towards into the game and I think I was just sort of you know a desperate attempt to try and get something out of the game so I can't imagine you know you want coding task I was excited and I can't imagine with them playing plays like Brennan Johnson up front with a pace that we'd switched to a back four so imagine it'll be a a back five again so it'll be interesting to see what whether he has a midfield two midfield three and because obviously we've got O'nan and I we can be the out ball from midfield to get you forward got the pace got the energy to take plays on where their role will still be you know it'll move them a bit I would the idea of going forward I imagine is to have O'nan and Ghana in there and that they are they are two plays that suddenly make a two almost become a three because you know O'nan are the size of them but also Ghana the way he plays and how much Gandhi covers and hopefully if Ghana does come in you know whether it be for this game or or whatever you just mentioned the date it shouldn't be a back five it should be a back three and the wing back should be a lot higher and they should be our width they should be our out ball they should be trying to get round the back and then you then that might allow Wobby then to push in a slightly higher up the pitch because Wobby was has been really good in the first two games and obviously was good at the end of last season but I think in the two games he's showcased in the middle of the park getting on the ball that he's a good player and for me if you can get him a little bit higher up the pitch so we can start you know affecting the game more to me that makes more sense and I think that you might find a whoever a Dwight Mac you know you could Dwight Mac Neil or Damari Gray you know my staff finding the position and the threat and even Anthony Gordon as well. I think that the thing for me in the past couple of games has been our final ball has been not been quite there I think it will be playing out the pitch he's got that quality to do so I think Mac Neil for this one if he can he might be that player looking if we're struggling to break this team up we saw him against Kiev he's got the ball and just gone into a bit of space and put it in the back of the net once I had the box he's got that extra bit of quality with his left foot I'd be looking for him to do something this game. The wing backs I'd like to see them get more tired but the pitch get them involved in the game more it'd be interesting to see whether, except for Mika Lenco he's not really done much going forward this season so far I know we've been quite defensive and he's a good defensive player but it'd be interesting to see whether he put Ven Agra in there to just give him a go because he's obviously showed signs of preseason that he's a good player going forward and he can if a player holds him up he's got the quality to get round him get a ball in and I'm quite seeing that from Mika Lenco much this season. No I thought he was poor last week but different it depends what the challenges are in the game but let's just have a look at Forresters team from last week after they beat West Ham. There you go they played three at the back and the guard played just behind the front too. It will be interesting to see whether they make changes. Mika Williams playing over as a right wing back. He was excellent last week. Really dogged performance from him. Henderson made some good saves in goal and there's more. Johnson we know when he was in the championship was an excellent player someone that I haven't looked at. So you know they are a real threat. They got lucky against West Ham but what I would say they would organise. They worked hard didn't they? On another day West Ham maybe could have scored three or four on another day but I think some days you just get your luck and I think the hard way is what got them the luck in the end and you have days where you really deserve that. On the days the penalty goes in and the free kick that it's the crossbar bounces in rather than bounces out so some day you deserve your luck so I imagine they'll make maybe a change or two from that with the new players coming in and it's a different challenge because when you're at home and obviously you've got we know this you've got the crowd behind you and it's different. They're coming to Gouldersham Park we'll see what happens but let's just look obviously look at our team from last week. I imagine we've got to make a change at centre forward for me. I think for me if no more signings come in we don't know whether they will or they won't. Gordon will maybe drop to that left hand side a bit more and Rhondda will start and maybe D'Corey with that injury goes out and O'nana comes in for me you know right now as it is I can imagine O'nana because O'nana obviously came on last week looked looked a real threat obviously we know listen he loses the ball for the first goal we know that but then straight after that he showed a little cameo of what he can do little drop of the show the little team a pace good skill on the ball and that's exactly what I haven't now mission in midfield at the moment. Yeah it just needs game time doesn't it it's more than physically he's more than good enough to play in the Premier League he's big he's mobile he's fast you know he's good on the ball and I think Frank Lampard will look at this game as an opportunity to get because we will have I do think we'll have a lot of the ball this game think Frank Lampard will see there's an opportunity to get older the ball and and get higher at the pitch and you know try and get a few goals and I think that's a good opportunity for O'nana to get you know a lot on the ball and try and get embedded in quickly because you don't want to throw him into a you know a game in his you know early career at Everton against a team like Chelsea or a game that would have been played out like Chelsea so a game like this where we can you know the the teams come into Goodison Park they you know they're not quite like got players ready to play it not got the full first like preferred 11 so we can get him on the ball and and just let him you know do his thing and bed him in he'll he'll make mistakes but he'll he'll bring a lot of good hopefully yeah yeah hopefully um it's a tough game it's it's one of them isn't it because we've lost our face to games this just you look at this game and you're thinking everton have got to win this you know we've got on paper at the moment the games that are coming up in the next few weeks just yeah they sort of just start looking hard and harder don't the Brentford away leads away the the Derby coming up ask no way you look at them when you're thinking we've got to get that first three points yeah that you know what i mean there's I know it's not like a relegation must win no no but every game is is important but for this flight for Lampan for the plays especially you don't want it dragging on you don't want to dragging on you know we it's the first time we've been beating in the first two games for something like 12 game 12 years sorry or something you don't want to drag on this is this is a game that Evertonians expect to win a promoted team coming to go to St Park we expect to win this game it's not going to be an easy game everton we'll be tight we'll you know we hopefully should should be we've been looked a lot better at the back but we've got to start doing it at the other end and you know the club themselves we've got to make sure they bring people in to do it and and we can't have a situation where games are passing us by and that's what it feels like you know Everton I imagine as a club will be like well this is the plan and we expect to win this game and I think fans expect to win this game but it's not going to be that easy so it's going to be a difficult game I think fans are going to need a little bit of patience for the game itself but I think you know we've got to get the three points because it just takes the stress off you know there's other teams out there that have actually you know that have lost the face to a couple of games as well there's other teams out there that you know may have picked up a 0.02 if Everton can get that win and you go well they've won they've won one now takes the takes the pressure off a little bit and you go on to the next game and we'll be like won that one that'll be huge for us so it's yeah it's so important we get that three points yeah absolutely obviously not the greatest start of the Premier League season this is far too many times as well new promoted teams have come to good as soon and we've lost points against them so for me be get at them early get the first goal and just be a scruffy as you like get a 1-0 out of this game but get the three points and I'll be happy there you go make sure you check out our opposition preview which will be available on toffee tv premiere Thursday make sure you check out the start 11 show which will be available on Friday and the Franklampards pre press conference pregame press conference as well will be available as well give this video like subscribe if you haven't already if you want more great videos join us over on toffee tv premier the link is in the description and it'll be on the screen in a moment see you later