 Once we swam in summer and all of a sudden like there was a drop of the degrees it was like from 20 which is also not so much but then it went to 15 and people were like what happened and it just it was snowing in the mountains so this relational aspect is really one where when you start and then you're beyond your only personal pleasure you can really and you're interested also in the bigger picture and I also observe this in me people are building their their houses in the areas where before were flats now they build dikes and if something happened they're like that's bad but you you build it there it's like and then you are screaming there mosquitoes but you by land like in the area where there were wetlands so you know that there will be mosquitoes talking with Jacob and talking with the boat companies or not talking with them which is also a type of communication yeah enforcing the laws I think across our countries we have very different attitudes I think the V&E standard of observing traffic lights is much higher than in most places I see people kind of like rules here a bit more yeah of course you maybe will not pee in the water anymore I don't know why it went wrong with the cottage people like why I really get your superpower wish now like that's a quite striking logic there they can't swim there anymore so actually this is the counter example of what we try or what we say that would work maybe and because they did have a relationship to the water and they still fucked it up