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talented uh uh money talks let's go all right the next lady oh she owns her own radio station man uh tko radio come on now you know i went on her show and i've been wild upside down she know her shit from back with the forwards side to side and uh yeah it was like comparing him to undre 3000 saying he was the next undre 3000 that's how good he rap he mc you know uh my friend your friend man mr bobby ray b o b hey man before we get started a um yo i gotta see everybody's school clothes uh i'm on it show me your school clothes with your expensive ass yo chelsea what you got on man show me your school clothes oh you did that what the new people be saying you put that shit on yeah that's what they be saying hey man i know this nigga about to show out man y'all put it on let's play boy show him uh we're gonna start from the bottom can you see it's greener down there mr christian lubricants low top uh i got purple jeans on tacks and some like he's gonna take them back no no no oh that's what he's doing okay i didn't even try to put you down i'm 41 uh limited okay not too many of them i got fire from y'all but i got one of them you got one of them nah nah nah nah i got a tip my boy over there yeah damn there he from the cater i'm gonna do my flash store i agree what you been up to bro man i've been uh dj'ing been getting into real estate been working on a book uh i'm finna start teaching classes i'm doing a lot of shit man what do you mean you finna start teaching classes hold on what's going on for right now you know i'm uh you got that much money you going back that's what you're doing i signed a gift back the idea here of mike tyson say that after you know i'm saying you done did everything it's time to teach yeah i mean i i feel like we're teaching something that like it kinda has to be there for you like i don't feel like it's something you can really try to do it's just gotta naturally kinda be something that you that people kinda come to you for you know what i'm saying and so i just i don't know it's like it's not really it's just kinda who i am you know what i'm saying whenever i run into artists like up and coming artists and new artists i guess where i was or somewhere that i could have been you know i feel like i could help them navigate the game a little bit but like you know it's like it's not what it was cause like i came out during the myspace era you know what i'm saying so it's like it's only so far you can really advise you know what i'm saying the next generation so i just feel like i kinda try to stick to like the shit that don't change you know what i'm saying and what doesn't change being fly the fashion change but whatever fashion whatever's popping in your era you better goddamn tap in 100% 100% i'ma tell you what is not what don't matter now that used to matter i guess it used to matter if your song sounded like a certain time period you couldn't sound like 2000's or like the white tea movement you couldn't sound like you know what i'm saying you couldn't sound dated now it don't matter you could sound like 80's 90's 2000's you could sound like Pluto you could sound like another artist you could sound like Michael Jackson you could sound like you know what i'm saying it's a very confusing time how's your R&B career going by the way i want to ask you about that i know you want to jump into that man what's up man i'm waiting no you to like what's up can i get a feature can i get a feature i got a i want to feature on some R&B shit doing some R&B shit i just happen to have some R&B shit perfect for you thank you for bringing this up yes i am definitely working on the gospel sex symbol album right now yes just finish mattress on the floor yes i did got about five songs with ariel man ariel man helped me compose my shit write my stuff and everything he just showed me how to be less vulgar and more R&B and what that's crazy you remember man come on bro that's my friend we're from Decatur we're from Decatur we was just talking about this before you had to i want to double back can you tell these niggas that Decatur is Atlanta bro Decatur Decatur is Atlanta but like Decatur is Decatur man like Decatur is like Decatur Decatur is like the city that like niggas didn't think would go pro but did i like what you doing right now yeah man even trying to shade Decatur you know what i'm saying even the whole east side we didn't bring y'all like Childish Gambino and like Glenn crime mob come on man they don't even play with us few Trialville come on man alright don't get me started why high school you went to Columbia i ain't gonna do all that go to wikipedia type in Columbia High School Decatur see who went to see what they put in the water oh yeah yeah Chris took all kind of mob oh yeah Chris took the future crazy bro Olympic athletes and shit i went to read and Miller Grove we got Jagged Edge come on man now i want to read and for show yeah i'm from the east side i'm a transplant i'm from New York that's cool i don't know what y'all what are they talking about do people from New York come down here and complain about traffic like how we do i complain about traffic i don't know cause y'all got a drive in it New York you can just hop on the i don't even know what they call it the L train but you know she's from Syracuse i'm not from New York city i'm from upstate New York that's the real New York it's so many different New York's different NYC and then upstate they try to act like that's how Decatur in Atlanta is but it really ain't you can be on flat shows and grushing road then you go two exits up four minutes away you in the city little five points and some shit like that yeah exactly east Atlanta village that whole area hey so doubling back what you gonna be teaching what school you gonna be at nah it's my own academy oh yeah i'm how much money you got nah it's like right now i'm just doing it online right now because i just want to see like i really started like officially like at the A3C festival i did like two i did one class where it was just me and then one where we had Kato and Lamont Graves come in and speak and the turnout i was like damn like this really can't show it up like from other states and shit like outside the city i was like bro you b.o.b man you probably ready i mean but you know as an artist you don't know like when you doing something other than rapping you don't know who gonna show up you don't know you know always uh if it's gonna be there if you making an impact and you know i'm pretty sure you've been surprised on many different occasions that they love you yeah i mean i think this is like a i think it's like a a condition i don't know like what do you call it a disposition that artists have when you really can't see yourself you know what i'm saying because it's a lot of this is always be telling me like man like all y'all be so be hard on y'all sales man like you don't feel like nobody appreciates you or nobody like you but it's like you can't really see it you know what i'm saying and so it was surprising seeing people come out i'm like y'all won't listen to what i got what shit let me tell you something and i feel like i feel like the artists now are i feel like the artists now are are um more i don't know like i just remember when i was coming up and we were doing like open mics and shit like that a lot of the up-and-coming artists like didn't really like it wasn't like it wasn't normal to have all your shit together now you you better have your socials all your handles your link tree Shopify your analytics man they be having all that shit out the gate and really you really can't just jump in like you and that's what i'll be teaching in my class like what you need to have because some people don't know how to finish a job application in the music biz because just having a song does not mean you're ready to be the artist because just having a song is like having a movie with just the soundtrack okay what all the boxes you got to check on i i mean i go in the i really i really like i really because like i mean you gotta think about it right like you want to be a if you want to be a doctor a lawyer a police officer a sex worker anything they got all type of all type of it's a planned route yeah like a curriculum curriculum sure you know where to go it be like yo you don't know what and like i feel like you just gotta watch and see but it be a lot of stuff you know you don't know what's really the intention behind it and as an artist you may think alright i need to go out here and like for example if you are an artist that make music like you make let's say you make music like Childish Gambino and but you a fan of the baby and you see the baby pop off and you like oh shit i gotta beat some ass i gotta i gotta shoot somebody you know what i'm saying you may be thinking like that's where i go was like no no no that's not yeah that ain't the way i shot somebody for nothing yeah he was like damn maybe i shouldn't yeah admit it so but but like yeah i mean that's that's that's really what it is man it's like i don't i don't feel like um i don't feel like i know what like i my whole point is look just take what i'm what i'm teaching you and then just make it make it your own thing you know what i'm saying because um every artist is different every artist creates the same and i feel like just if you really if you really are serious about and passionate about creating your shit then you'll be it you'll automatically do it because even when i was coming up as an artist i ain't figured everything out like i remember my music would sound so uh alternative but i'll just be wearing like some regular like lrg i'm wearing white t-shirt and shit wearing you know what i'm saying like it just you were very humble yeah i mean i was but see like i was i was like in protest to all that shit also at the same time what do you mean like i was no labels i was yeah like i was like really on some like i ain't trying i ain't trying i ain't trying to do no fashion shit man like all these liquor companies and in clothes when i was in our community down man homes down like you know i was always protesting that shit i remember when i had uh i remember i was doing this show in in new york the the what's called the jingle ball the jingle jam jingle jingle ball the jingle jam ball i don't know man it was with all the pop all the pop celebrities everybody with a pop a pop and pop song would they would get them to come out perform and so it was like like katie perry me haley williams bruno mars like you know all the the two thousand tens what do you call that the tens what are we calling that that the tenYear ten millennial it's just so everybody got cool like the 20s niggas born the y2k they got the 20s and then 2010 i just they don't have a good reign it's it's it's it's annoying though i don't i don't even know what the place it is I don't like it. Y'all don't like it. Y'all don't have to like it because y'all was born in... Yeah, they born in 2010, yeah. I'm almost 40. For real? What a man. Good genes. So I'm curious, your dad being a preacher and you being locked in like that, do you think your discernment is kind of what was the catalyst for you being such, not a protagonist, antagonist against the industry, but like do you think that your spiritual background had anything to do with your disposition? I mean, I definitely feel like, I absolutely feel like whatever era you're in when you conceive a child, you pass that on to the child. And I definitely, as soon as I stepped out the womb, I was like, damn. Somebody needs to do something about things. T.T.G. I'm talking about from the giddy up, I was like, man. And so like, you know, I gravitated to rappers like DMX and I was like DMX for like, I don't know, I just, I'm just the angst and the aggression. I just, I don't know just some about it. And then he'll do skits on his album. It'll be like he's saying a prayer. It just kind of related to me a little bit. You know what I mean? It's like, and then Eminem, because the emo shit when I was in middle school, I was like straight Eminem. Yeah. Nice. I like nice. Of course, outcast. And then when I got older, I started getting, I started appreciating like all the music because it was like, you, because I'm in the, you know, like we in the middle, I mean, I don't know if anybody in the same, I don't know how close we are, but you know, you know, okay. I mean, but you know, you in the middle, it's like you, you grew up. I'm not in the middle to order to listen to boom baps. I mean, I think we in the middle. Okay. Oh, you 41. In between like boom. I ain't that old, but I'm not that young. I mean, no offense. Hey, you know what time it is, right? Man in street heat time with DJ wizard Craig. Check. What's going on y'all? It's your main man, wizard Craig on the twos and ones just for fun. AKA DJ. I am somebody here to give you the heat in the street. That street heat. First, we're going to start off with young baby Tayden. She dropped off a song called Jersey. Got all the Jersey clubs bopping, jumping, dancing, you know, going down in a special way. Make sure y'all go and check that out. A man, Jose Guapo came out with an album called flawless. Heating up the streets. Make sure all y'all go check that out. Represent Atlanta. A main man, Nick Grant came through and dropped off an album too called Sunday dinner. Remember when Nick Grant used to come to the AUC, drop off all his tapes and got us all hip. So make sure y'all all get hip to that. You know what I'm saying? My man killer Mike, he came out with the deluxe version to the album Michael with some extra tracks. So if you're in here at the first time, make sure you run back and go and listen to that. And for our throwback, you're going to give it to my main man, the Migos with no label one, the mixtape that started it all with the track Vando or some piece my man take off, man. And that's the heat in the street. I think I just feel like when you in the middle of boom bell and like trap music, you can appreciate both sides. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, I was like, do I got a pic? Because you be talking to people and they be like, yeah man, this old trap shit, these young, these doing these dumb ass dances. And I be like, dang man, I kind of like it a little bit. I kind of like, ooh, ah. That shit pretty cool at the Pooh Palace. Pooh Palace? That shit is aesthetic now. Push it forward. Push it? That's what I, y'all, that's what I like. That shit is coming back. What we go? Yeah, that was definitely that. Yo, that's your era, man. Like above. Yo, you know what's funny? I'm gonna tell y'all some funny shit. What was that? Them niggas went to my high school. The what we go niggas? The what we go niggas went to my high school. And what's funny is the first talent show I did, the first and only talent show I did at Columbia. You only did one fucking talent show? Yeah, I got booed at the talent show. The song was trash though. The performance was trash. The song was trash. And like. You could admit that. That's why. I mean, you know. So you didn't, you didn't, you wouldn't have like negative like in denial saying, man, these niggas don't know shit. Man, fuck this shit. Ah man, it was just, it was bad. We got dancers, the dancers that show up. Then one of them came in late, ran in and stepped on my mic cord, pulled the mic cord out. The crowd started booing, sweep. And then. Sammy. One of them niggas in the band. The nigga. Who did the what? Rico Dan. He was in the band some sweep. Hey, hey, I bet that was trash. I bet that was trash. He played the cymbals. He played the cymbals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Hilarious, bro. That was funny. That's dope that you could look back on that and laugh. I was telling everybody earlier about how I used to get booed for about three, four years doing comedy and shit. Yo, yo, that's hard. Woo. Yes. I don't see how, yo, that shit amazes me. You got to make niggas that don't even fucking know you. They ain't like talking, telling jokes with your friends or Applebees. Niggas already like you. Yeah, it's like niggas that be like, you guilty to approving innocent. Bro, it's big, big, big meet you in the audience. G's in the audience. T.I. in the audience and shit. T.I. booing the niggas and shit. Who knew that he knew what he was talking about the whole time? Never saw that coming. Why don't you get up here and do it then? You ever feel like it's too many celebrities in the audience and you can't really roast nobody like that? Yes, it definitely was like, when then Bobby was in the fucking audience. Man, bro. The vehicular niggas and shit. Yeah, that's how old I am. Luda Chris, when he was Chris Lover Lover, was hosting the coverage. Chris Lover Lover and poor daddy. Yo, I've been trying to stop doing shit like that when I'm out in public. We singing old shit. Why? We officially did that age. Those were some good times in Atlanta. Those were the golden times. Yo, Atlanta is... I was talking about this with DJ Cash. We was talking about how Atlanta, to certain people, it's like a... It's like a... It's like a museum to certain people. But to us, like, we... Like, we were here when it happened. And so, like, everybody that's coming now is like... Because they heard about what happened. And it's a completely different thing now. Atlanta. Yeah. And so it's like... I call this a little baby Atlanta. A little baby Atlanta. A little baby Atlanta. A little baby Atlanta. A little baby Atlanta. Yes. A little baby Atlanta. Atlanta 2.0. Yes, yeah, yeah. It's a different Atlanta. But it's still... And you gotta think about it, because we live here, but it's a trap museum here. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's a real tourist attraction. Yeah. That's wild to me. Mm-hmm. I haven't got no video either. I mean, I think I'm still in denial a little bit. Yeah. I intentionally haven't went there yet, just because of that. I'm not ready. What other type of museum? Can we have a strip tour museum? They got a hip-hop, all the fame that's coming. Oh, yeah, because it's 50-year anniversary. They had their two-part museum, but it didn't last. Where, here? Yeah. Remember, Memorial Drive? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait, hold on. That shit up there's clothes. I think it's clothes. Now, once you die, all this stuff got... Oh, yeah. Oh. Yeah, I do remember that. Then turn it to an Ethiopian restaurant. I do remember that. Oh, okay. Why didn't you say I got Ethiopian food, though? Right. Because... What's your favorite spot on the ether? What you making? Juicy jerk. Okay. Oh. Red jerk. You making on Rockbridge? Red jerk. Red jerk. Hold on. They barbecue on it, though, right? Yes. Okay. I was about to say that. It's not jerk chicken if it's coming out the stove now. Yeah. Yo, you know what the real, the real authentic, I don't know if I'm giving away no secrets, but... Please. They get the actual, the berry that they make, the jerk seasoning out of, I can't remember what the berry is called. I never knew it was a berry. It's like a berry, but the tree that it come off of, they get the wood from the tree and put that in the fire pit and cook the chicken with the damn wood from the tree, from the jerk tree. The cherry, cherry, cherry chips. Them cherry chips, them jerk chips. Yeah. They get that jerk wood. Yeah. Yeah. I know what it's called. I can't be calling it jerk wood. Somebody. Somebody. What is this called? What is this called, man? Yeah, man. What is this called? It's the jerk. What? Jerk seasoning. What is... It's got your bonnet peppers now. What is... Come on. All y'all need to be in jerk all this time. Pimento. Yes. I know it. Yeah. There we go. Yeah, they get the pimento wood and the pimento leaves and throw it in the fire, man. Cook it up. Cook it up. Crazy. Juicy jerk. Okay. I got to check that out. Which one you said? Red jerk. A rock bridge road. A rock bridge. Yeah. Okay. I definitely got to check that out. I've been scouring Atlanta since I've been back for some good jerk chicken. Man, you got to try... I had something from Willys Jerk. Y'all heard of Willys Jerk? What? It's a jerk's butt-bottom. I'm sorry. I can't say to him. It's bad. That's the best neighborhood you live in. Willys Jerk. Oh, you live on the bougie side now? I mean... My bad, because I mean... You know how you stay in some ghetto shit in a nice area? Yeah. That's my shit right there. I like it. I feel like... I feel like... I feel like it's an aesthetic now. I don't even feel like it's like a success thing. I feel like some people really do like living in the ghetto and some people like living in the bougie. No, I really don't. It just took too many... Like, I was the only nigga in my neighborhood and then somebody found out I was there and next thing you know it was two of us and I was like, hey, man, stay in the house so a nigga can see alright, cause you gonna attract more niggas. Don't do that. Then it was a girl head movie. I was like, oh, fuck. This bitch. That's how it starts. Yo. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you want too much of the same thing. Yeah, yeah. In one spot. No. I thought it would never gonna find me that. Like thrifting. You know, it's like we gonna find a thrift store. You don't want all the niggas finding out about your your spot. But then it's like someplace you go if it ain't no niggas there even like it's time to go. Alright. We got a bounce. Word. Word. All the things that you know. I didn't hear music. Is that not a thing for you anymore? Dang. That is true. You didn't say it. I don't know why I didn't say it. You didn't say it. That went right on my head. Like a month. Yeah, I didn't even peep that. I didn't say that. I guess I am. I mean I am. But I don't know it's like I am making music but I just feel like that's like so expected. I feel like that's so I feel like it's I feel like it'd be born for me to say I do music and you know how somebody would be like somebody would be like yo man I'm an artist man I talk about that in my class too. How you the best way to like present yourself. Yes. Okay. But you know a lot of people like yeah man I'm an artist man. It's like you expect to hear that in Atlanta or like somewhere where it's an industry event so I just been kind of like on some I'ma I'ma show you that I make music like on your screen. Like you're going to see my song or my video on your screen. But not like for me. I don't know so I sometimes people already know you though like we know you for the music. I know it's like self promoting sometimes it's kind of not draining but like I don't know it's like you know you like walk up to a girl at at a bar you try to like get a number and it's like he's been running the same lines from Excuse me can I can I use your phone? Yeah. My back. Yo that's my hat. My hat. Pagers SkyTill It's just got to him the two way she actually handed you that sh!t like damn that sh!t was it called me real quick. Remember the two way the two way you slept I remember getting my cell phone, my first bill was about like $800. Man, I think I had 35 anytime minutes. Cuz I could use them 35 minutes anytime. That was wild how they did it. Yes, they fucked me over. That was wild. Any time threw me off. That was a great year. It was. I mean, I guess it killed. I mean, just think about it, bro. You had to like, you had to like, just, you had to just, you know what I'm saying, just put a thumb and then get a picture. Then you had to hit download on it. Yep. Yep. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. You had to really work for some action. Yeah. Hey, it's fun. It's crazy that you say that cuz I used to meet girls off the chat line and so you know, being that you couldn't like, I'm talking on a regular rotary phone and I'm like, hey, so won't you mail me a picture of you? Oh, I see her about three, four days later. I'm like, oh, this bitch trying to catch me. I ain't gonna, I'm not finna get on the model to go see you. Had to catch my phone busses to see her. I got, I got caught up one day. I got all the way over to this chick house and I mean, she was so raggedy. I still hit it cuz I had came like, it was too far. She was on a period. It was. I was 15. That was 15. You fuck anything. I was Macho man. Randy Savage. All that. On the top rope. On the top rope. On the top rope. In some of the rag. It is. Motherfuckers. I met a midget at the CNS center at the movement. She got me, bro. I went through a bunch of the goddamn moves. We saw the best man together. I was the worst man inside that. It's a tentative down right here. Her whole body was right in here. This was a leg. It was so stupid. So what was it? What was that like? Do you feel like it was like goofy sex? It was super goofy. We're so goofy, man. A lot of dudes got like a... We all got them stupid stories. What I mean fantasy. Everybody has a man with a little person. I didn't want to. I didn't want to. But I didn't want to. She was pushing up on you. She was already there. I was too nice. I was too nice. I was too nice. I was too nice. I just went on and did the shit. I had already got there. We had them created a report together for the last three days on the phone. So I felt obligated to go on here and pay for the movie and shit. Plus I wanted to see the best man too. Then we got in there and I was like I might as well suck this girl titties and stuff. Then one thing led to another. Went too far. 15 year old shit. You did a lot at 15. That's what I'm saying. It gets worse. It gets worse. I maxed out my Atlanta experience. I got Freak Nick stories all of that. Man, I wish I was older. It'll never be like that. No, it won't. The closest thing we had to Freak Nick was probably like Glenwood there or something like that. That was lit. That was lit. Man, Glenwood there was a while. That was a while. Yeah, I was just thinking that. Hold on, that shit was dangerous. Yeah, I used to be seeing girls twerking on top of the cars. It goes out everybody. But you were still safe in a crazy way. Ain't nobody get shot. Everybody went home at the end of the night. People from that side of town people from that side of town they were holding. They was at Ben Hill Day on the side of town. Damn. Yo, when is it coming? Somebody's doing it. The documentary. Yeah. Not waiting for it. And it's on Hulu now. The Freak Nick documentary. Okay, okay. They better do it right. I think that's going to be kind of impossible. I can't imagine the Freak Nick being done right. The things that I witnessed as a little boy. They're going to have to put it on HBO. Yeah. Toobie. Yes, yes. Yo. Girls ain't have no landing strips there. No landing strips. It was just all bushes. That's how it was, baby. It was nuts. It was rolled out back there. It was bearish. That's back when bushes smelled like pussies, man. I got 16, at least 16, 18 shoeboxes of pictures and VHS. Yeah, shoeboxes. Bunch of Polaroid solids. Bushes. You see what? I used to think that was sexy too. You can't even see them. You can't even see them. Like this is a pussie. Pussies, man. That was back when pussies smelled like pussies. Pussies. And it tasted like this back in the day. Pussies. This is pussies. That was straight farm the table pussies right there. I was talking about nappies. Super nappies in your throat. Ma'am. Then what happened? Why did everybody just go naked? What happened with that? I think that's when the whole girl on girl thing started. Maybe it was Jersey Shoe. Girls on wives. Yeah. When people saw the white girls, because the white girls had been on it. White girls had been on it. Then they started shaving a little bit. Then you'll see a little fuzziness on it. It was kind of like a little landing strip. Then it developed into that landing strip. It's an ombre baby. Yeah, that little shadow on there. Afternoon shadow. Still had the little heroin on the inner thigh. But yeah, that was about the... You were an evolution of... 100%. I was there for it all. He saw it all. I used to walk around with my fingers thinking. Oh my God. I was that guy. That's what we did. I got the teen club. We dancing with a girl. Y'all didn't do that. Man, you lived it up, man. Yeah, I did. Remember that. It could only be two. If it was any more or any less, it didn't count. Yeah. You said if it was more? What? Oh, dear. What? This was back when people were running trains. Yeah, that little kid. Yeah, you fit your whole footwork. Y'all had y'all whole hands. Yes. You had to switch to the Buddha. This is too loose. I'm going to the Buddha. What the fuck is this? Let me see. When the hands on the thighs have really become... After Katrina. Up until then... Yeah, we were just hand just heated up. Oh my God. We had on a oven mitt walking around. Just hiding the hands. Yeah. He's on fire. Yeah. Word. I remember, like I said, moving up to New York and everything, you know, two months into it, you and me Rich and your whole clique, Kane, me and Cipher Sounds, we got with y'all and we went to the club, you performed and I was like, man, this nigga them blue, the fuck. Up in New York. Where was we at? We went to Jersey and we went to, like, one night and everything and you was just doing your thing. When did you realize, yo, I'm on? Yo, I'm going to be honest with y'all. Y'all probably not going to believe me. Yes, we will. Like, let me, what did you define as on? I don't know. I have never been on. Bro, you got your own show, man. I got my own show. I've been on Wildland out and all this other stuff. You were a gospel sex symbol, bro. You got a shit going on. Working on the comedy album. I guess for me, I would have had to say when I was on Wildland out or when I went on tour with Martin that was the pinnacle of my life. No, it's a lie. Yeah, a lot of people can't say. But then a lot of people can't say they got songs with Bruno Mars and I got them Andre from Wildcats either. Andre from Wildcats, Morgan Freeman, Nicki Minaj, Taylor Swift. Weezy. Lil Weezy, Elf Baby. Come on, bro. You grew up on them folks. Yeah, man. And they became your friends and, yeah. Man, I think. Can you have a song with Eminem? Yeah. T-Pain. Bootsy. You grew up on these people. I used to just be like running out of it. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. But I mean, the thing is, the thing is, right, like, I would always know that, like, okay, I can always lean on this or fall back on this. I can not fall back on this like something other than music. I just mean like, all right, I still got these hit records or these records that people know or I still got fans in this city or this city. So I can always do that, but my sites are sitting on something bigger. So that's always how I looked at things. And so I would never just stop and just be like, yo, nigga, like, you used to work at Subway next door to the record store and go buy TI's albums. And now you working with TI and, you know, on stage, he bringing you out on stage, you know what I'm saying? And I just, you know, it's something where it's like you really have to get far the further away from it you get the more you can see it. Because when you in it, I remember like my friends at the time, people that I worked with in the studio would be like, you used to like, you know, they telling me now in hindsight, like, yo man, I used to be worried about you. You just like be like, never, you would never be satisfied. Like you would just always be like, man, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I gotta get bigger. I gotta get a bigger song. I gotta get a bigger, you know what I mean? And it's like, I ain't realizing like, bro, like you touring the world, like I'm performing in countries I don't even know the name of. It stems from my passport. I don't even know how to get there. I don't even know how to pronounce it or where I was at. I know I was beside Russia. I wasn't in Russia. And then it's wild too. I was in this country called Latvia and Niggaz is out, Niggaz is in the crowd holding up the K to Georgia signs and holding up the K to signs and I'm like, man, like that's wild. And it's like, and that's what I'm saying. Like when I was talking about there being a trap museum here, like we don't realize like we're in, we're in a, we're in a era, like people going to be talking about this shit. Like, like how we was reading on the, the civil rights movement for the Jim Crow stuff. Montgomery Broad. Yeah. Yeah. We are in the era, bro. Cause like these, like in other countries, they be like, they study shit that we think is just nigga shit. Like, like stuff that we think is just like, you know, you know, Atlanta, who could hot wing strip clubs? Culture. Culture. Like these people are studying this shit and it's an aesthetic to them. And they are dressing, dressing like us, acting like us. Like, like how a nigga would imitate some Picasso or some shit. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, I've been all these places, man. And it's like, you just don't realize it when you're doing it, man. It's like, that's, that's kind of how it is, man. It's like, the game is like that. It's like when, when you pop off the industry, really just hit your ass with a bag and just send your running. Get out there and make some of yourself. And you just be going, bro. Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, kind of like, kind of like how, it's like when you, you know, when you joined the military, like wake you up early in the morning, or when you go to school or you're in prison, it's like that when you, when you do that over and over, like it conditions you to, to do whatever it is that you're doing, whether you're a firefighter or, or an artist. And so when you, when all this is happening, man, it's like, you don't realize, like you're being transformed. Like I'm, I was being transformed. I was changing. I was performing all over the world, getting used to, and it's so crazy. Cause like I, I wanted to become an artist so that I didn't have to like do corporate America. And wake up early in the morning and catch the bus. And that's exactly what the fuck I ended up doing. Little did you know, there's a lot more time to be like on your own. Yeah. Find that effort. Yeah. That gap between high school and college, I didn't do that part. I didn't do it. So like from 17 to like 26, I feel like I was just, I just, I was just a work horse. And then I got older. I was like, wait a minute. Like, you know, I was looking around. I'd be like, dang. So y'all, y'all, y'all was doing that in college. It was like, yeah. I'm like, I ain't getting into certain shit till I was like 26. Drugs. But like people was already burned out on shit. That was doing in high school. And I ain't even really, I was late to certain shit. See, I was early to, to that when late to other things. But that's a good thing though, cause that's one of the reasons why you probably so far ahead of a lot of those folks. If you think about it, you know, I look at a lot of people I went to school with, like we said, and them folks be burnt out. Yeah. And looking bad. I mean, I seen a J, and it was one of my younger class men, but he looked like an older man on the side of Wetsha Chapel. I'm like, what the hell don't happen to this kid? But he all sprung out, you know, a lot of folks, man, they be burnt out, but hey, you took the better path and moved how you need to move. And now you look at your picture and your future, your present and your past compared to theirs. I'm taking the B.O.B. Bobby W. Rowdy every day. One of the things you said in one of your previous interviews was that you wish you would have been more prepared for stepping into that line. Like how, how would you have better prepared if you could for your success? Um, you know, at the time it was like, who could have prepared unless you would have just talked to like, I mean, I guess like maybe like Bobby Brown or like Michael Jackson or who before our time was like, I guess a black artist that was like traveling the world, performing with people with a band with instruments and shit on stage. Like it just wasn't really, I mean, I guess like, I guess outcasts is the closest thing because outcasts, definitely. Yeah. Because I mean, even though they weren't playing instruments, I mean, they still represented all of that because they had live instruments and all the songs and and so, I mean, I was doing, I was doing shows where it was like me and Usher was the only black people. Me and I.S. You remember I.S. Shawty like a really, is that the song? My head that I can't get up. But it was like me and him and then some places where I was just the only nigga. I remember I did the Asian Grammys. I can't remember what it's called. The Asian Grammys. I was literally like the only black person. Yo, that should feel, that should feel weird. I was like, I can't even imagine that. Yeah. And that's also something I teach in my class. It's a difference between rap and melodies because even though everybody don't speak English, melodies are universal. Raps are not just just free game. Okay. Just a little spring. Just so I know what you're saying. So I don't think something is a melody that's not. What's an example of a melody? We pretend that here, please. That got me over there. That nothing on you. But they like certain raps do crossover. And now it's a lot different because like I know y'all saying this year, Meg, the style he was performing in Japan. Yeah, sorry. And it wasn't always like that. Like it was only pop music. And then like, I know from the East side, a lot of us will go to Germany. So like the military bases and stuff, like I know, Crime Mod went over there. I was going over there. Waco was going over there like way like 07. Yeah, man. Germany, UK, this how you know they have a different appreciation. And that's how you know when your shit is starting to go out, go across the pond. What's a different appreciation? What do you mean when you say that? Are you saying that they're fainting? Like, okay, so like, okay, this, this what it is. Oh, yeah, man. I got to tell y'all this story. If you don't mind. I don't know about you. Man. Okay, well, let me, let me answer that first question first. Okay. Make sure you remember this. Okay. Like like here, we do shit like a cloud and the flex, even if you ain't like a Lexi cloudy motherfucker, like you still, you still going to do your, you know, it's your birthday or something, or it's a, it's a benchmark achievement, lifetime achievement. You're going to, you're going to pop on a little bit. Put that shit on. Put that shit on. Put that shit on. And so like, so like when, when when I was popping with haters on like the Chitlin circuit and they booked me to come over to the UK or to Germany and your head, you think, oh yeah, I'm popping. So I mean, which, which obviously yes, you are popping, but like they're not looking at it from the cloud. They're looking at it from like the music, the artistry. Like they're like, oh shit, this art, like they want, they collect vinyl and you know what I'm saying? Like they want autograph posters and shit. Like, but with us here, you know, we just want flex one time real good. Flex real good one time. But I mean, in the UK bro, they really appreciate art. Like they're really like music. Like you ain't gotta be like, you ain't gotta, it don't really matter your I guess like in the industry, some people are personas and some people are musicians. And so they kind of like appreciate both because it it's a art form to both of it. You know what I mean? And so so look, this will happen in Germany. It's just a quick story. None too crazy. I just, it just made me remember it. I was over there. It was over there for days, man. Like we have nothing to do. And we was in the smooth standing mill in nowhere. The AC ain't working. Like seeing some German companies, they don't countries, not German countries and some European countries, they don't have like AC because it always be so cold. So it only got heat. So it was really hot. There wasn't no AC. We in the mill in nowhere and it ain't nothing to do but walk down the street and there was a fucking dark competition. We was like, fuck it. Let's go in there. Just get some beers. And then I link up with this girl. I meet this girl. She's like, I'm not really sure if she was like African with a German accent speaking English or if she was German speaking English with an African accent. That's mine. So you don't know the difference between a German accent and African accent. That's all you're saying. Well, you're saying Well, it was like broken English. But like it's like the whole package in the package when packaging. Oh, yeah, I had quite a few. I couldn't in my memory. It was like, oh, I can't remember. But anyway, I like what is going on. So so we ended up hooking up later and we did the deed. Yes, you did. We a fist bump with our bodies. All right, all right. You deserve it. And so the next day was show day. So we we in a I mean, I think I'm assuming we're on base because everybody can speak English. So I guess we're on military base. And so I'm performing. And so I get to the part of my set where I bring a girl on stage. I bring some girls on stage. So I brought and like this stage is like a it's like this, like the front, like the crowds in front of that. But then behind it, like there's no curtain. It ends. It ends like a runway. Yeah. And so the girl get on stage and I'm I pull on stage. I'm like, all right, y'all make some noise with that. And then like running through the crowd is the girl that hooked up with the night before. She running full speed. She hop up on stage off the stage. And she almost fell off and died. We had that. We had the grand person. She didn't fall off the stage and die. They have been real fast. Bro, she shoved her. She was trying to kill that girl, bro. Get off my man. She said that's my man. Mommy and mommy and mommy. We were like, yo, I didn't even know she was there. That was that was terrifying, bro. What did you let her participate inside of this B.O.B. girl bring on stage part of the show? Nah, we had it. We just move past that part of the show. We're like, all right. That was enough. Moving on. Damn. Yeah, bro. That was wild. So did that girl try to fight her? She was just like, nah, this bitch is crazy. Nah, they had to break it up. They had to break it up. But that was like, I mean, I know the whole club had to be thinking like, what did she do? She just got up on stage. Like, what's going on? But you're the only one that know. Sheesh. Tough crowd, nah. Yeah. Hey, so what is this DJing thing that you were talking about doing? DJing now? DJ Bobby Ray? Bonnie Will. Willie Wong. I have a new respect for DJs. I'm gonna be real with you. Because some people may think it's just playing records. It's a real art form. And then like, it's crazy because like, I used to tell, I got like, I got like friends I partied with. And we always hand them the aux chord because they always playing the slaps. But man, I want them to DJ so bad. And then I ended up DJing. It's crazy. And it's like, when you are artists, right, you go into the studio, you make 100 songs. You make 10 songs to make one good song. And then you do that 10 times to get a hit. Then you do that 10 times over to get like, a smash number one hit. You know what I'm saying? It's like a process. It's really like a speed, like a gear. Like you start out first gear. Then once you're in sixth gear, it's like, all right, now that you're in sixth gear, now you really need to start recording. Cause then now you're really going to make some bangers. And so as an artist, you doing that, you making all these songs just to get one good one, a couple good ones, 10 good ones, an album worth of good songs. But when you DJing, you going straight into the crate with all the hits and you can just back to back to back to back to back to back to back. And that shit is amazing because that's what we're trying to do as an artist. Is you try to get people that feeling like fuck if it's, you know, I would like for it to be me and just my songs. You know what I'm saying? And be like, yeah, play my whole discography. You know what I'm saying? But like when you're a DJ, you could do that with just all the music in the world. And then you then however you want to mix it up. And then and then now I could, I could tell like when it's a real good DJ like by, I mean really, you don't have to DJ know a good DJ, but the respect level is there like on a different, on a different level cause it's like, that shit is not as easy as you may think it might be. And not even just the, not even all that shit, but like just, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know the niggas that be scratching and spitting around. Like, like not even that, that pristine level. Yeah, not even, but just like just blending and then like, and then like, you know, keeping your, keeping your hand on the pulse of the crowd and not killing the crowd. Cause that shit. Playing some shit you want to play. A DJ that sets the vibe for real. You can kill a party. Oh yeah. We're like two songs. Niggas will leave. People not feeling you. It'll be like nah, we'll leave. For real. Hey, what's that song you got, man? This is my favorite B.O.B. song. I said goodbye. I'll be gone for a while. Cloud Nine. Yes. I seen him in Atrium doing it. Wow. 17. Cloud Nine is the shit. Yes. Goodbye. And T-Rex gonna take us out to that. Yo, I was trying to do a, I was trying to, I was fuckin' around trying to sound like a Jamaican artist when I made this song. What? Yeah. I was outside smoking and then came back in and I was like, man, let's just, let's just make some, come on my life. I'll be gone for a while. It's supposed to be like islandy. Hey, B.O.B., man. Yo, check this out, man. Adile, I hope you come back to the show. I thank you for coming. Again, y'all give it up for him. Absolutely, man. I appreciate y'all. Is there anything you want to say before you get out of here? Because I know you got some more famous shit to do. Man, bro, I wanna, apparently I haven't lived life yet, so I'm trying to get on your level and try it all, man. You know what I'm saying? Hey, get your finger stank. Oh my God. I think you're gonna skip that part. Get your finger stank. Yo, that's wild. Yo, that's wild. 100% man. Yeah, man, I had a pleasure, bro. Wait, wait. Yep. There we go. All right, man. So, yeah, man. Yo.