 Peace brother See you mate See you bud. That's the first time that that's ever happened. Is that still filming? Yeah, that's still filming. You actually have to be careful A lot of these kids these commenters are only kids. It'll be careful You don't start swearing at like little kids or stuff because I see some big and they get a lot like really emotional Which is which is fine. Yeah, like how's that? He was just that he was like a 12 year old kid and he's having it out with me on the I don't know. It was really difficult to get through to him, but I wanted him to like at least start thinking Because the thing is about fish and pigs and dogs a Fish for people in their mind. It's a far jump from fish to dog But when I threw the pig at him, it's a little bit. He couldn't argue with that. Could he pigs and dogs is a good place to start? Also With this human comparison, I think that's very useful A lot of people don't like the human comparison. I think it's I think it's useful There's it. There's a there's a way of debating called name the trait and that's championed by Ask yourself on YouTube name the trait. So you go. What's the difference between a pig and the human and That justifies stabbing subjugating enslaving pigs in eating their bodies, but not human beings We wouldn't do it to humans Why do we do it to pigs and they could go well humans are more intelligent and you could go okay? So if humans had the same intelligence level as pigs in your eyes Would it be okay to stab them and subjugate them and slay them and eat them and they would go no of course not okay? So what what's the difference and you keep getting them to name the trait or characteristic that separates us to the point that it makes it okay to Enslave and kill cows, but not human beings. So the human comparison can be very helpful I like doing dogs and pigs Because he showed me his dog buddy. The thing is about kids and fishing they get taught that by their father usually he didn't You know naturally have this urge to hook animals in the face and drag them out of the water They are taught that they are taught to kill basically at a very young age and you know you get forward I've had I've actually had less productive discussions with 40-year-old men on this topic no matter how old they are They're stuck in that child that was conditioned. They all got notifications that makes nations was live and joined. Ah, okay Okay, so all mason's followers have joined in as well Bo veth, you know, I'm not going live with any more fishermen for now It's just it doesn't work because if you want to you know what Bo veth If you want to have a live discussion with debate with me, we can like we can go on my youtube channel It's just we're gonna be able to hear each other better. We can do it on hangouts I don't know who taught Mason that fish don't have nerve endings in their mouth I don't agree with animal testing, but they did a study on animals and They proved it But if you're gonna call me a pussy mate, then we're not gonna have a discussion on veganism because what's that got to do with anything? What's that got to do with the ethics of fishing? You know if you're gonna drop insult me? You want to have a you want to have a natural discussion and actual debate. I won't be calling you a pussy I won't be calling you many names mate. So let's just keep it keep it respectful and we can discuss Why you think it's okay to murder animals and why I don't you know I mean I don't have to bring any names into it Name calling into it if you're if you're resorting to call me names then you obviously don't have a strong enough argument and I'll tell you right now like Whether or not someone's a pussy has got nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's it's a quarter ad hominem attack It's called where you tap try to attack someone's character tell you right now though It takes more courage to not kill animals to protect animals and it does to stab a hook into a little fish's face a little Defenseless little fish. What does that make you? Tough man big strong tough guy Big strong tough guy who's hooking little fishes in the face. No not at all mate not at all if you want to jump on my Google hangouts email me my emails in my youtube channel in my videos ask mason and mason about my youtube channel And we can debate about who's the real pussy Attacking little animals that can't defend themselves doesn't make you a man Like and I understand like something if your dad taught you my dad taught me my dad taught me fishing when I was a kid Yeah, it kills hundreds of fists a week. Like do you think that makes you like? What does that make you does that make you a real a real man by killing fish little fish I tell you what like We are overfishing our oceans our oceans if you care about the ocean And you're you're dragging fish out of it. You're destroying the planet like the planet that your children have to live on And you know people just don't think about they just think of my own self-serving. I'm not I'm not trying to make hey Hey, but I'm not trying to make you scared of me mate You know when he called me a pussy I'm just saying like it's got nothing to do with the topic Like calling someone names Talk about why you think it's ethical to drag fish out the ocean and kill him and destroy the environment and teach children That's okay to kill animals. Yeah, like I'm not trying to make anyone scared of me Like I'm not I'm not a violent person. Maybe in my past there was but not now I'm just trying to spread a peaceful message. You know what I mean and And and get people to think that's all and Mason was I like to have a discussion with Mason I thought he was here. I had a more productive conversation with him that I have with some 40-year-olds Joey stop beating the Charles I know I don't usually feed the trolls, but there's a few in here at the moment He's just trying to trick you. I'm not I'm not gonna get triggered. I think it's a good point to make I Think it's a good point to make when someone calls someone who defends animals a pussy Because the last time I checked Picking on little animals doesn't make you a hero either You're not in my eyes anyway like if you've seen someone picking on a little puppy dog, right attacking this little puppy dog Do you think people are gonna think you're a tough guy? No, they're not They're gonna think that you know, you've got some deep in security issues and you're very disturbed You know if you've seen someone hurting a child guess what the people gonna think you're a tough guy You know and if you defend children are people gonna call you a pussy because you defend children You know if you've seen someone abusing a child and I defended that person said stop abusing children Okay, you're gonna call me a pussy too or is it just because I defend animals or some animals the ones that you kill I'm a pussy. We can talk. I could talk about that all day You know, I think defending animals is a noble thing to do I think it takes more courage to do that than it does to you know Conform who taught you how to fish mate? Who taught you to fish what society did you fish because daddy taught you why you stand on your own two feet and do your own thing? Not just do what everyone else is doing drink and beer and go fishing stabbing fish, you know I've chosen to you know I used to be in games and be a drug addict because everyone else was doing it now I decided to stand on my own two feet do my own thing go go against the grain and I'll tell you right now It takes a lot more courage to do that It takes a lot more backbone to stand up man or woman man or woman to go against Society yeah, like going around calling people who defend animals pussies doesn't make you look good when you've got a hook with a little Baby fish on the end of it fish that can't defend themselves from you little innocent animals Can't defend yourself like if you're going around killing kittens, you know with a hook What would you think of that someone that went around killing kittens or puppy dogs? What do you think now that was acceptable morally acceptable? I don't think you would I don't think you would and I don't think the hundred people watching would either people who abuse animals are the real pussies. Uh, yeah, I mean I guess so like I Don't even like the thing is I don't even like bringing that it the only time I like just I start discussing that is when someone else Frozen at me. Oh, you're a beta. You're a pussy. You're you're you're whatever like I don't even care if you call me that I'm secure enough, but it's good to get into the discussion after people say that to me because it's like Okay, so if I'm a pussy what makes you such a hero, you know me what makes you such a tough guy? Oh The fact that you pick on little animals. I don't know. I don't know I don't know if that makes you a tough guy like at least like a lot of meat eaters and People that eat animals. They don't think it's cool to pick on animals They don't think they wouldn't start if I said, oh, you know stabbing pigs and it's wrong. You know, I mean they're gonna go Like like a rule stand-up float even if they do a real stand-up human being even if they do eat animals We'll go, you know, what are you doing the right thing man? I'm just I'm too lazy to change right now You know, I understand what you're saying man. Yes, it's messed up what they do to him You know someone with a ounce of compassion a little bit of bat phone about them a little bit of you know Security inside themselves would say that That would say that they wouldn't go. Oh, you're a pussy because you care about animals Would they? No, so think about that. Oh, wow. I'm a wedding. So my camera's gone off So like I'd like to meet meet you in real life, mate and just have a chat with you and just see like what you've got to say just Like, you know, just just just see how your mind works really see how I like why you think the way you do like Like I'm a man who was brought up in this Like with like there's a little bit of stigma around men like you're gonna be like this Your dad's like no, I'm especially in Australia without the drinking dad culture and stuff You gotta be like this this makes you man. This makes you a woman. This makes you pussy. This makes you tough. Oh like I Know about all that. It's just trying to get to get around how your head works like why you think like why you think People who care about the well-being of animals are pussies Because if I was in Newland China Defending dogs you'd be on my you would be on team Joey. You would be on team Joey if I was You know setting up pedophiles and you know defending children. You'd be on team Joey You'd be on team Joey. You'd be you'd be giving me a call saying thanks so much about you making our community safe But I'm defending animals and all of a sudden I'm a pussy. Why is that? Why is that you wouldn't be on team Joey if I was defending your Children from child abusers. You what so you what does that mean? You wouldn't be on my team. You'll be on the other team Would you I'll be careful what you say there, buddy Humans are the superior species says who sound like Hitler Superior we're superior so we can kill anyone below us So if humans are superior species and I want to kill dogs, is that okay because we're superior What makes us so superior? What what is it about us that makes us superior is out into our intelligence because if Mentally disabled people don't have the same level of intelligence as you would you say you're superior to them? Okay, it would and and because you're superior to them would that make it justified to harm them think about what how your mentality work where it leads to and What's different about a child and a pig the fact that they're human a child is human and a pig isn't Pig have the mental capacity of a five-year-old around You know so or three-year-old I think for pigs three-year-olds So what's the difference stabbing a pig and stabbing a kid? What you think the pig doesn't want to the pig struggling for the life. They don't want to die Just like a child wouldn't But what is the difference that they're human a child's humans that have special privileges like you think that? Because you're a human You know we owe you something But the animals we don't owe them nothing Enslave them kill them stab them. What did they ever do? What did they ever do wrong to you? What animals ever do wrong to you to deserve how we treat them? You know I mean they did nothing they did nothing wrong to anyone and We treat them worse than we do pedophiles child molesters rapists Okay, animals have done nothing wrong. They're the victims. So think about that animals are the victims and all of you in the in the comments who are sort of perpetuating animal abuse You need to take a look at in the mirror and then think wow what am I actually what am I actually supporting here? What am I what what in my heart? Am I actually supporting? What if these animals actually done wrong to me for me to hate them so much? Hmm. Do you hate yourself? Do you hate yourself? Because this hatred is coming from somewhere hatred for the innocent hatred Towards innocent animals that you'd love to see you just love to see them be butchered stabbed chopped up into pieces and fed to your children and if your children saw a slaughterhouse They'd be terrified upset no one wants to see animals suffering in a pool of their own blood Spend five minutes inside a slaughterhouse Five minutes watching animals infant animals be led to their death and tell me how you feel I spent an hour in a slaughterhouse Watching them be butchered watching animals be butchered Against their will dragged by their nostrils onto it onto a machine slashed across the throat Vomit coming out of the hole in their neck Yeah, vomiting out of the hole in their neck just terrified animals having their skull cut open and their brain ripped out onto the floor Eyes pulled out, you know skin torn off of their bodies Stomach cut open all the insides just you know emptied into a bin and Um, and then yeah, then you come talk to me about how you think it's real, you know, real cool Real cool after you spend a bit of time in a slaughterhouse And how that makes you a man for somehow, you know picking on little animals Anyways guys, that's been probably one of the most interesting live streams I've ever done And I'll see you in the next one. Peace