 Okay. All right. Now, now my friends, now we're on the air. Now we're on the air, officially on the air right now. We're on the air. I'm so happy to be on this program and extend my thank yous to Chris Holmes out there, you know, across the Atlantic. And I'm so excited to have you on the new album Alliance and also in the new video, the ultimate Alliance. Thank you. It's cool, man. It was nice. Go ahead, Chris. It's been 38 years since we played together. I know time flies. I remember we played at the Lyceum. Remember, we did a show there and you guys were awesome and you played awesome and I had the pleasure of meeting you after the show at the party and KISS were there like Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Bon Jovi. It was a real fun party. At the brewery. Yeah, I think that's the name of the place. Yeah. But it was in London, England. And then it was just a fun time. I remember how tall I thought I was Paul. Man, I was looking up at you, man. I was like, wow, look at this guy. Unbelievable. All right, just just everybody knows. I don't want me to cut you guys off. Thor, the epic new studio album, July 16th via Cleopatra will be released. It's called Alliance. And that's why Chris is on. That's why everybody else is going to jump on because it's an Alliance of artists that are joining us. This is your 39th. Is that 39? 39 studio album. Chris, 39 studio albums Thor has. That's including, of course, it's in live, right? 39. 39. Yeah, my goal. My goal is to do it a million, a million. I want to do a million studio albums. Yeah, yeah, a million. What's going on? Hey, hi, Sarah. How are you? I'm doing fine. Bonjour. Bonjour. How are you? This meeting is being recorded. No, it's good. It's good. It's fine. I'm recording it. It's fine. It's good. They had a big thing in the screen. I couldn't see anything. No, it's good. It's good. That was my face. You saw my face was a big thing in the on the screen. So I'll try to adjust. Just to bring you guys. The ultimate Alliance was the first single and that's where Chris was on. He played guitar on that song. It was like it just came out. The video's out. Rock him, sock him first song in your face. Thor is back. I love the production. Congratulations, Thor. Sorry to cut you guys off. Thank you very much. I hope you saw how he portrayed and how he is. Chris is a rock god, a guitar god and his part is so incredible. It's like the pyramids of Egypt. So we tried to portray him that way in the video to see that he's bigger than the life. He's like a statue, an Egyptian statue in praise to the gods. Cleopatra. That's really good, Chris. It's a big compliment. You're an Egyptian statue. Cleopatra, yeah. Yeah, Cleopatra. It all ties in, right? Yeah. And just going back to this. You guys played together. Thor back in the 80s and Wasp back in the 80s and you talked about this right before, but just to give everybody some context. John, where was it? Where was it exactly? What state was it in? Where did you guys? Did you play in England or did you play in the US? We played in London, England. London, England. And it was at the Lyos Seum. And we opened up for Wasp. And we both had, I think, pretty good-sized props. They had the big buzzsaw. It was pretty amazing. And we had lions with lasers shooting out of their eyes and stuff like that. So it was the time of theatrics, I think. The bigger the theatrics, the better. So it was quite a show. And I remember you had some issues with Blackie. You used to take a mic stand and bend it around there. I think it was a guitar player's neck. Yes. I used to have all kinds of stunts. Ben's steel in my teeth and Mike's stands around the guitar player's neck or have bricks smashed off my chest. You still do that anymore? No. We still do the theatrics, but not the strength feats. I've broken too many ribs and I've broken too many teeth and bulged my eyeballs out so many times. I don't do the hot water bottle anymore either. So we have a very theatrical show, but not all the strength feats. It's more like battles on stage with giants and loci and stuff like that. How about yourself? I'm looking forward to when you tour Canada. Yeah, I hope next June or whatever around, yeah, it's been two years or a year now, I was booked there last year, whatever. That Lyceum show, that was the first Wasp video, that was a full-length video. They filmed that. They had a film crew there, you know. Oh, yeah. It's quite famous. It's a tremendous video, a tremendous show you guys put on. Really, really amazing. And as I said, it was a lot of fun to meet up with you guys after. And it was just a really unique party with so many celebs there. And it was fun to be all together. It was a drunk fest. I would say so. I would say so. Chris, okay. And Chris, just so you know, Chris has got a DVD that's out now. Yes, tremendous DVD. I've seen some cuts from it and I just love it. Mean man. Yeah, yeah. The story of me. I know. It's an amazing story. A really great story. And we've actually have shared, you know, promotion from Cleopatra Records on our site. Yes, yes. The DVD is on Cleopatra. That's a good point. It's nice. A lot of people from Chug vodka and swear at my mom, you know. It shows one other aspect of my life other than that, you know. Yes, yes. I'll never live that down. Never live that down. Well, we go at our ages, we go through many stages in life if you can last this long, right? Oh, yeah. And your hair gets gray, see? Like that. Yeah, I love it. There you go. And Chris, what about the new album? What about your new album that you're trying to wrap up, I guess? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just finished up the last guitar solo yesterday and I'm sending it to the guy that mixes it if it gets there and then he can put it on and start mixing all the rest of the songs and then he sends it to me and I okay it yes or no, you know. Yeah. So when can we expect this now? Like the complete album, right? In about probably three months from right now. It will probably be done in a few weeks, but it just takes time to do all the other crap, you know, whatever, you know, putting it together and then put it on the CD and all that stuff, you know. Do you think it's going to be released in a few months or do you think that it's just going to be finished and ready to be sort of shot around? No, it'll probably be released in about three months. Wow, I'm pretty excited. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. All right. Any anything you want to say about the new album, other than that? I just it's it would have been done a long time ago if the COVID hadn't hit and it's just been postponed this, you know. It's um it's yeah all the songs on there are just about what I've done in my life, you know, experiences and stuff like that, you know. Yeah. Is it coming out on Cleopatra? No, no, no. Okay. Because I've been I've been been there, done that and got nothing out of it. Why do it again? Right? And it's it's it's easy to let's just sell on bandcamp and then I sell it at my shows. I got you. Yeah. All right. So you're going to release it. That's cool. It's cool too. Giving it to somebody. Look, I'm looking forward to hearing it. Looking forward to hearing it. And Chris on the last note, go. Sorry. And the last note, okay, we've heard a couple of tracks, right? But yeah, is it all basically just Chris Holmes, straightforward, heavy metal? That's it? What's the like the musical direction? It's it's um there's a few slower there's one ballad called in God's Hands. Mm hmm. It's a ballad and it's it's um it's got some real pretty boy well as pretty as I could possibly sing vocal melodies to it singing in God's Hands and uh the rest of the stuff's all a little bit heavier, you know. All right. All right. Well, you know, very exciting. Yeah, we got we got Steven Milley saying hi, they just dropped by to say hi. The grimmets, the grimmets, Steve Grimmett, of course, you know, they were all the grimmets. Yeah. Yes. They're all we're all good friends with them. On a last note, before we leave Chris and we jump to the rest of everyone else, again, Chris Holmes appears on the first single of Thor on the new album Alliance and we'll keep repeating that theme on the Alliance. So the album has 17 songs, Chris. It has 17 songs and every song has a different Alliance member. We'll call it our artist. Yeah, that's happening. Well, it's it's the it's the Justice League of Metal. That's right. Yeah, that's fair to say. And Chris Holmes is the Egyptian God of this Alliance. Is that is is that is a character? What is that? That's right. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I'd say he's like the superhero Egyptian God of Metal, you know. Yeah. He lives in France. Yes. Chris, I know you're it's late there in France. I thank you so much always jumping on. I'll do this again. Yeah. Have yourself a great night. Hey man. We're going to jump to the rest of the guys. Great to see you. Yeah. Thanks to Sarah too. Thank you guys for being on this record and being involved. Really appreciate it. All right. Later. Thanks, man. Thanks, Chris. All right. So let me just see how I can. Okay. There we go. All right. So let's bring in the what do we want to call them? The Thor Band Alliance? What do we want to call them? The Thor. Yeah. Thor. They're the Alliance. You know, part of the Thor Alliance, the Thor Core. The Thor Core. I like that. The Thor. There's many names for them. Many, many names. All right. Here we go. Let's bring on those many names. And there it is. There's John. There's Ted. And there's Stuart. Guys, where are we connecting? Is everything good? Yep. Yep. There you go. Hi, guys. How's it going? Good. Happy belated birthday to you. Thank you. Happy birthday. See, I remembered. Thank you. Yeah. Thor reminded me. Yeah. I turned the ripe old age of 35 on Saturday. Wow, 35. To be 35 again, right, John? Yeah. Thor. Well, you know, as it is. Pretty soon, he'll be too old to be in the band. I'll have to get some more people. Well, these guys are getting too old. Well, as a cancer survivor, 35 is kind of a milestone for me. So, you know, happy to be around still. All right. So who do we got here? We got Kevin Stewart Swain. Hey, Kevin. Long time no see. How are you doing? We got Ted. And we got John. So John plays guitar. Ted plays bass. Kevin Stewart plays guitar. All these guys in the Thor world or the Thor Alliance, we got the US Thor and we got the Canadian Thor. And Kevin, sort of on the producing, songwriting on the Canadian side, and we got John and Ted on the US songwriting and producing side. Well, we actually overlapped a little bit because there was a east coast leg of the tour a couple years back that we did. And I originally wasn't able to make it, but then things moved around and I was able to hop on. So Ted and myself got to play with Kevin and obviously Thor for a few dates on the east coast. And that was a lot of fun. All right. It sure was. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to just, so again, so everybody who just joined in now, we're going to be rotating guests. This is the Thor core. And on this new album, the Alliance, the 39th album of Thor, you know, there's 17 tracks and everybody, all you guys plus others, other artists that a lot of people know of, people like Danko Jones. Is Danko a real name? I can't handle it. Is Danko a real name? Yes, it is his real name, Danko. But I mean, was it maybe like a stage name or is it a real name? No, that's his real name, Danko Jones. All right. And he's a Canadian. Cool. Canadian by. Danko's great, by the way. Frank, tremendous, tremendous person and tremendous talent. Yeah, like we have Dan Cleary from Striker. Right. Frank Soda from the imps back in the day with Thor. Another great guitar player. Yeah. And we used to lift them up over my head. Yeah. You know, we, we got to play a a live entertainment venue featuring the things that women do on a stage. And the first half of the set had Frank Soda playing and then the second half of the set, we took over and it was a tremendous time. Very, very cool. Very cool. We have, of course, Sean Peck, we'll talk to later. Yeah. We have who's that Nina Osigueira. Yep. Yeah, you know, she does that power vocals on the first single. So Ted. Hey, with Nina, she makes glass break. So she's amazing. She hits those high notes and all the windows will break in your house. Yeah, Nina plays in A Sound of Thunder, which is an awesome band, East Coast band. And they've just put out a ton of great albums. So make sure to check those guys out. A Sound of Thunder. A Sound of Thunder and Fang von Vrassenstein. Is that our producer, right? Yeah, so that's, his real name is Tai Christian. He's in the band Lords of the Trident. So Ted and I, you know, we go way back even before joining Thor. We have an original project called Donna Baller. And during those years, we played with both A Sound of Thunder and Lords of the Trident. And then, you know, as we started playing with Thor, we wanted to make sure that, hey, you know what? We're friends with these guys. We want to keep playing shows with them and give them in front of bigger crowds. Because, hey, when you play with Thor, you play in front of big crowds. So, you know, we were able to get A Sound of Thunder to do a couple of dates with us. We were able to get Lords of the Trident to do a couple of dates with us. And, you know, we just maintained that friendship throughout the years. So, you know, it was awesome getting them on the album. This is Nina's first time being on a Thor album. This is Ty's second time being on a Thor album. He made his debut on Beyond the Pain Barrier for the single, The Calling. You know, yeah. All right. Cool. And I want to flip over to Canada with Kevin. Kevin, you know, there's a song called Because We Are Strong. Yep. And let me tell you everybody, I want to inform everybody out there. This is like a spectacular song, you know, really, really well done. And it's got that, the bagpipes. Just talk about that a little bit. Well, it just, I just wanted to put bagpipes on it. And I know a guy that plays bagpipes. So I said to John, what do you think? He was all over it. It just, it said bagpipes to me at the end there. And the drummer, Scott Young, that I've worked with on a few Thor things, plays bagpipes. So he warmed himself up. I think he worked about a week to get into shapes. Apparently it's quite a thing to blow on those bagpipes. And nailed it, you know, it's, I'm really happy to try different instruments like that was so cool. Yeah, it's a very cool song and Ted. All right. So the mastermind producer of the videos. I can't take all the credit. Josh Granbo here in Denver, he actually did all the special effects and editing for this new video. So I think it's awesome. I think the CGI stuff is, you know, gives you that other world that as the pandemic, we're not all able to get together and film together. So we all did green screen and various locations across, you know, the country and Canada and Chris Holmes over in France. So yeah, it's pretty cool that it looks like we're all in the same spot with that green screen and computer graphics. And John, John Lible, you're, you know, you're playing a lot of the leads. What's John? I'm going to call you Thor, John. John, Michael Thor. I'm going to call John, John. I'll just call you Thor. Don't call me John. There's no confusion. John. Hey, he's the God. I'm not the God. He's the God. John, so you play a lead guitar in like almost every track I would think, right? You know, and you do a lot of songwriting too, right? You know, and I mean, that's just, you know, if we're talking Ultimate Alliance, talk about, you know, so again, I just turned 35. The fact that I grew up listening to bands like Wasp and Manowar, and that I got to write a song where I get a little spot in the middle in between guitar solos of Ross the Boss and Chris Holmes. I mean, you want to talk about checking something off the bucket list, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's it. How cool is that, right? Yeah. And you got your own. And I noticed over the years, you have your own guitar tone too, you know? You know, and it's cool. You know, you got a sound there. And that's cool. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. And Thor, now you have all these merry men around you, right? Are you talking to me? I'm talking to Thor. There's only one Thor here. I don't want to say anything else around. He's talking to me. Okay. How do you keep it all together with all these guys? You know, you guys got in Canada, you guys got in the U.S. And you're dealing with guys in LA like Frank Meyer. And just you have so many people. How do you get to keep them all together and you work together? It's not easy. Well, we're friends, right? First and foremost, we're friends. And, you know, we would help each other in a heartbeat. You know, if anybody needed any help. And, you know, these relationships like Frank Meyer and my relationship goes back over 20 years. Frank Soda and my relationship goes back 50 years. And, you know, and these new guys, these young upstarts. The young, actually. It's getting older too. I mean, it's getting on too. We started in 2017. That's where I met John Lible in 2017. And Kevin Stewart Swain back in about 2011. We did a concert together. But, you know, we have respect for each other and we have respect for each other. Then you're and you have like these guys have so much talent to give. And, you know, that perseverance, you got to have perseverance and focus. And you can just do wonders together. You work together, whether it's across the miles and you're doing it on Dropbox or whatever. And I think we have a lifetime relationship. And that's not being weird or anything, you know. But it's a lifetime relationship of creators and friends. Okay. And Stewart, Kevin. Kevin, speak to me about, okay, last album was good. But when you compare last album production to this album's production, speak to me about, is it light years ahead? And what you're looking for on your songs, I guess, and the production on your songs. Okay. Well, the last album, it was a really unique time because we didn't intend to do a full album. And John Thor had to go out on tour. You could see this pandemic thing coming in, the more you watched the news. So we were against, you know, we were on a real time limit. I liked the album and everything. I wanted more time. So that's why, you know, on that album, I re-recorded and remixed the two singles. And even the third one, I was part of that with the rut and wanted to just take the, you know, just, I wanted more time. So this time it was a perfect storm because of the pandemic, as horrible as it is, one of the silver linings was we were all stuck at home with a lot of time to work. And John, in Vancouver, if you live alone, you can have two people in your bubble. So I had Lisa Freikrock and John Michael Thor. And like he says, we're friends. Like, I think John's just the greatest guy. I, and so he'd come over and visit and we'd work. And we had all this time and we were able to take those production values up. So I'd say this record sounds the best of any record I've been involved with with John. It's really, you know, it's close to the finish line. It's good. It's real good. All right. And John Liable, what are your thoughts from your perspective on the production of this album versus the other a few albums that you were on in the past? Yeah. So I mean, you know, since starting with Beyond the Pain Barrier up until here, we've had different guys, Mixmaster, we started locally with my buddy, Will Meravals for the first album. But then as things kept progressing, Ted actually went ahead and brought in a heavy hitter, Akeem. Akeem and I, I pronounce it pronounce it, man. I pronounce it by, I, sorry. I apologize if I pronounced it wrong. Akeem Kula. Sounds good to me. He, he actually did Ross the Boss. Good stuff. Good stuff. That's a leader album. So he did a lot of the, the mastery and stuff on the final album on this last one. So that was really cool. I've always been into that German heavy metal sound. So that it was just really cool to be able to have him on some of that stuff. And yeah, I mean, I think, I think we made a leap on this one. I really do. Yeah. Speaking of, I'm just saying, speaking of Germany, Timo Juarez did the painting. He's from Germany. Yes. And also the illustration was done by Simon Williams of Wales. So I'm showing the Thor, you know, where you have that hammer in the air. That is probably, that's probably one of your best album covers. I would think. Thank you. Ted, what do you think? Is that one of the best album covers by Thor? Ted, have we lost you? Ted, did we lose you? Yeah, I like it. All right. I love it. All right. On that note, since Ted refused to speak to us. Technical difficulties. All right. So on that note, I'm going to, we're going to drop off with you guys. We're going to bring in Ross the boss. Thank you everybody for your time. Yeah. Yep. Guys, all the best to you. And I'll see you guys on tour. We'll see you on tour, guys. Thanks, Kevin. Thanks, Ted. Thanks, John. Thanks, guys. Thanks. Let me drop everybody off. All right. There we go. There we go. Just hit the red button there. Hey, great talking to you, Jimmy. Great. No problem, man. Have a nice day. Kevin, you're still there. Yeah. Just stand. I'm a leadite with this stuff. All good. It's not giving me. Oh, here we go. I hit the red button. I could drop you off. You got it. Got it. There we go. Good. All right. Needing. Okay. Hey, give Ross my best. He'll tell you all the times I've opened up for him and stuff. You bet. Yep. All right, man. You know, Thor, you're like my co-host today. You know that. It's a real pleasure. Real pleasure. There's a man. Look what I'm doing. Look what I got here. All right. He's connecting. Ross, look, look. I wore this just for you today. Hey, oh, that's nice. There he is. Look how nice that t-shirt looks. Holy fuck. It is. Look at it. Hi, Ross. Look at it. How are you? That's Ross right there with his sword. How you doing? You know, thanks for coming on, Ross. We're kind of celebrating, you know, the release or the pre-release of this album. You know, you played on the Ultimate Alliance, Great Guitar Solo. You guys have some history there. You guys have some history there together with the dictators, John, Thor. Well, yeah. Well, I'm a big fan of Ross and the dictators and the fan of the dictators and also a fan of his inclusion in Manowar. And back in 2001, I came to New York. They were having, you know, John Holstrom was having a huge celebration for Punk Magazine. It was at CBGBs. And I had the pleasure of meeting up again after many years. The first time I briefly met you in the early, it was about 84. And then in 2001, I got to see again and to say hello. So I thought that was a great evening. I remember that. I do remember that. I think there's a picture circling around with me, you, me, Joey, you, some other people. I don't know. Was it CBGBs? Yeah, there's a picture of back from the 80s of you, Joey and our drummer, Mike Favata. Favata, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Favata. I remember I think he always wanted to be in the dictators too. Yeah. Well, he was from a long island. I think I think he tried out for the dictators. He tried out, but you guys, you guys cut them. You guys cut them right away. He said, they get out of here, man. Don't have the chops. Guys, has there ever been a rumble between Manowar and Thor back in the day? I don't recall any of that. A rumble. A rumble. I could see that. No. There was never, no, no, never a rumble. You know, we all had the same loincloths, you know? Well, you speak for yourself. All right. So, Ross, quickly. Okay, today, the Death Dealer released a single, right? There was a single. You want to speak to that just fast, fast, and then maybe tell us about the dictators. Yeah, it's 22 Gone. It's called, and it was a song on the third Death Dealer record, Concord Lands. And it's about, you know, our veterans coming home and just not doing very well. Totally, I don't know, mentally, you know, just PTSD, face of it. And, you know, that 22 of our veterans commit suicide every day. And that's what the song is about. And we wanted to bring light to the subject of how bad this is, how bad a problem this is. I mean, we can't understand it if you haven't served. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, but we brought up, we're bringing up the subject and it's a stark video. And I was, I was, I was, I was depressed. I said, I said, this has to be one of the most depressing videos ever. But you know what? I'm not depressed anymore. I'm enlightened. I'm enlightened to the fact of what this problem is. You know, and, you know, it's just these people that go away and serve us and fight for our freedom. It's just men and women, they just, they come home and a lot of them are broken. And we need to, you know, we need to, we need to help them. Raise awareness, right? Raise awareness. And if anybody's wondering what that sound is in the background, that's the batting cage, right? There's the ball has been whipped. It's not very busy today. I have one cage going, but I have a 10,000 square feet. It's called the cage. It's here in Middle Village, Queens. And we're open, you know, and thank God, I mean, this place is doing great. Well, you know, so we have a big travel organization of baseball, 16 teams. And, you know, at least that part is going well. You know, Thor, I think this is a first, having Ross, the boss and Thor together, like the two legends of power metal or muscle rock, whatever you want to call it, right, Thor? Well, I just want to say there's a lot of respect. I have a lot of respect for, for Ross. And, you know, I want to thank you personally for being on the track for, for one thing, Ultimate Alliance and also starring in the video, as well as a VIP guest. And that's why we wanted to make yourself and Chris Holmes, like God's, if you look in the video, you're in, you're like a pyramid, the pyramids out there in the Egyptian sands, you know, you're amazing to hope it somehow resembles your guitar playing. Well, I, I recognize the one solo. I recognize the intro and I recognize the bit where you put, where I see myself. So it's, yeah. It's greatly appreciated, greatly appreciated. So tell us, Ross, about the dictators. All right, what's, what's happening with Albert Bouchard there? Oh, that couldn't be better. Couldn't be better at that. You know, as you know, we've released two songs with two videos. God damn New York and let's get the band back together. And the third one is, is we're sending it off to be mixed. And it will be, we're working on a video for the third song. That's what we're doing. We're just putting out songs. And then when we go on tour, we're just going to package it up and either put out an EP or album or something. So we'll have something to sell. And, you know, vinyl, you know, how that works. And so we're going to be releasing that song, maybe within a month. And then we have a song that we're going to put out for the holidays. Okay. Is it a Christmas song, like a dictator does Christmas, like Rudolph or an elf or something? It's an old to festival. Yeah, it's, you know, Thor has got a Christmas album. Yeah, it's called Christmas in Valhalla. That was my Christmas album. That's good. I like that. Yeah. Who invented this? Now, let's get to the bottom of it. What's with that symbol there, like you guys do there? What is it like that? Well, I have to say, I have to say, I did that in 1976. And that was something we did all the time. What symbol? What's that? How do you do that? Like, what's that arm thing there? Oh, yeah, I know you're holding the phone. It's called the iron hammer symbol. It's a greeting. I mean, if I saw you guys on the street, I would greet you with that instead of a handshake or an elbow. I'd give you that greeting because you're a fellow rock warrior and metal Avenger. Thor, when you were in England in, I guess, the 80s, Manuor was there at the same time, right? They sure were. Yep. Yeah, they were all over the place. Did you guys tour together? What was the story there? We never got a chance to play together. A lot of promoters wanted us to play together. But I mean, we were always in melody maker all the time. There were articles of Manuor and Thor. And in many times, we were compared, right? Because it's the Viking rock, warrior rock, that kind of thing. Yeah. Do you have any memories of that time, Ross? Well, we were there when we first got there. That was the country that gave us all the energy. Collades, yeah, yeah. We were getting, you know, before we got there, I mean, we were like, you know, who is this band? And we were shooting our mouths off. Like, we are the fastest. We are the heaviest. We have the most equipment. We are the slowest. We are the fastest, you know. And by the time we finally made it there, everybody had to see this band. We just had to see. You know, we got on the cover of Sounds. We got the Koran cover twice. We were just like, and the first show, the first show actually was Merciful Fate was opening for us. Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, they were going to do the whole tour, actually. And you never heard this story? No, I didn't know you guys played together. Yeah, the very first tour at Merciful Fate was our special guests. So, you know, do I have time for this story? Yeah, you got a few minutes. Sean's not there yet. So we're waiting for Sean Peck to jump on. Okay, so we're in, finally, we get all our equipment. We ship it all over. Every single bit of it of the wall of doom. Every, you know, I had 12 bottoms and seven heads. And Joey had 32, 15s and 24, 12s. And everything was there. Brands Banking knew and we set it up. And then Merciful Fate come, come traipsing in with, you know, with like a box or something. And they, and they took one look at our equipment and they said, oh, could we use, could we use your equipment? And then Joey goes, could we fuck your wife? And so like, it was like, you know, just, it got better from there, you know. So Joey was like, you know, he never missed words with anybody. So, no, you can't. So we said, we're going to let you, after all our hard work and dues paying and suffering, we were going to let you go on our stage and you're going to use our equipment that we fucking busted our asses for. I don't think so. I said, Joey goes, you take every bit of gear you have and throw that up on stage. Go out into the town and borrow some more equipment and get some gear and throw it up on stage and let's see what happens. And so it went, you know, the show went on. King Diamond was, you know, I thought he was great. I mean, I thought, I love the guy. And yeah, I really do. I mean, he came out and he had his, he had his bones and, you know, and then after the show, okay, that was cool. But and after the gig, we did our show. And then, and then what happened the next day? We had another show and they didn't show up. They didn't show up to the tour. They didn't tell, they didn't call the promoter. They didn't call the local promoter. They didn't call anybody. They just fucked off the tour, the entire tour. You guys roughed them up. You guys roughed them up. Well, they said then, then, then of course we start hearing, well, man award didn't give us any sound. They didn't give us any lights. They didn't do this. They didn't do that. But unfortunately for them, all of Karang staff was there, all of melody maker, all of sound was there. Every, every news outlet, a metal outlet was there for the first man award show in the UK. And they couldn't lie because they were all there. And they all said, no, that's completely bullshit, man. No, they had full, full lights, full sound. They had everything. Man award gave them everything. And they fucked off the tour. And, and I never, and to this day, they have guitar players that Sean played with, they're on Sherman. Those guys, I asked them, I go, whatever happened to you guys? And I go, I don't know. No one knows nothing. Okay. They never know anything. Nobody knows nothing, which was really pretty cute. But that's that story. That's a cool story. And I'm the one like, man, no man was synced up for that. But I'm there because I was there. I mean, you know, at least I was, I was there, you know. And so whenever they said, though, man award was a son of a bitch, they didn't give you anything. I said, that's bullshit. That's bullshit. Because everyone's sorry. All right, Ross, on that note, death dealer, new single, coming out. It's out. It's coming out. The EP? The EP. Yeah, the EP. The EP. Yeah. Yeah. And for, and albums four and five are recorded already. And that's the segue into Sean Pack right now. Yeah. I mean, he's, him and Stu have been absolutely going to Cirque. You know, I, which is, which is really, I mean, it's, it's made me amazed. And I'm a worker. Oh, and this guy is just, these two are, they're on a. Ross, it's been a pleasure. Yes. I'm going to sign off. Thank you so much. Looking forward to see you on tour, man. John, nice to see you. Great to see you, Ross. Thanks a lot again. Okay. Hail and kill. Tell you. Hail to England. Yo, fuck them. Fuck all. Fuck all, y'all. Take care. Fuck everybody. Hail to Canada. Take care, man. Keep cool down there in the USA. Okay. That's another issue. Okay. Okay. Take care, boys. See you, man. Yeah. Hey, here we go. Let's admit the next one in. See what we're doing here, eh? John, you're like my co-host. Yeah, there you go. I got a little surprise for you after. A little, a little surprise later. Is that Legos what's behind you there? Hey. Hey, you doing this? John. Hey. Hey, John. We've got the anchor of Metal News on today. Look at that. Did you hear my David Coverdale impersonation? No. It's freaking amazing. Do it right now. Do it right now. Hello, Edward. I'm so happy to be here. That's when he usually talks to Eddie Tronk. That's why I say Edward. But we're doing an interview with the Mighty Full. I think it's amazing. Okay. So here we go. Hey, it's great to see you. It gives me a chance to thank you for being on the album. Thanks so much. It was cool. I watched your documentary film. I loved it. And like John's a good friend of mine. I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah. I think I did it for free too. That's just the kind of guy I am. Look at that. Oh man. Well, I appreciate that. I guess I owe you a favor. Yeah. We'll arm wrestle on video next time I see you. I don't want too many people to see you beat me though. I don't know, man. You still got the guns, though. You still got the guns. Yeah. Battlemint, sorry, Thor versus the Juggernaut, right? Thor versus the Juggernaut. Thor versus the Juggernaut. War of the Gods featuring Sean Peck of the Three Tremors. Yes. Dealer who released a single today. Death Dealer is a single. And the cage legacy. Go ahead, John. Thor. Yeah. I'm just saying that Sean Peck's voice is out of this world. That's why he had to sing an out of this world song about the gods. Yes. I'm now on like comic book auctions online, like on this app all day. So I'm just, I'm comic book guy from Way Back When. And I have a $3,000 Juggernaut statue in my bedroom. I mean, what was the perfect song for me? Yeah. And again, yeah, it's a power metal track, right? I don't know how to describe it. It's just power metal, high octane vocals. Is that how we call it? Is that a good way to explain it? Yeah. I mean, I do the lower register. He does the higher register. Oh, I thought you were doing the higher one. He was doing the lower one, John. So Sean, what else is up? What else tells about what's going on in your life other than Death Dealer? And it's a new three tremors album I hear. Well, first of all, I love the song, man. I thought it was really cool. And I tweaked the lyrics and the vocals a little bit. So I liked kind of how I was doing the delivery on the verses. And I think I made some contributions to the song. But I think all the songs I've heard on the Thor album are really fucking cool. And I think that's great. John is a whoever's writing the songs. I'm sure he's part of most of the songs with you. But it's got a real heart of heavy metal. And you can feel the vibe and anything that's defending the faith of true heavy metal. I'm all about. You know that. Well, thank you very much. And maybe we'll appear together and recreate that song on stage in full costume. That would be amazing. You know what, Thor, tell me about the theme of the alliance. And we didn't talk about this today. And you'll be interested in this, Sean. And that's what he's leading to. What are you going to be doing on tour? When actually there is a tour. What is your plans for this alliance? I'm going to fly everybody in for one big show. Holy shit. Everybody, whether they're from France or from South Korea, England, Germany, United States. Everybody's going to fly in. And we're going to do one big gigantic show here in Vancouver, British Columbia. That's one of my plans. OK. And what was the other one? Every time you're in the city. It's called the Ultimate Alliance. That's it. And John, tell me about every time you hit a city, you wanted to have that singer of that city jump on stage with you into the song. Yeah, that's the other plan was that we would go out for alliance. And then in each city, we would go to the cities where the guests came from, the VIP guests, such as Sean Peck and Chris Holmes. And in each city, the VIP guests would sing there. Song on stage with us. There you go. There you go. I think it's a cool idea. Yeah, when you come see me, I mean, you're in Southern California. You can't really beat that. That's going to be the best one. We're in SoCal and it's me and you. I mean, sign me up. I might have to cancel the one in South Korea then. I hear it's a nice weather there in South Korea. I know they got the Olympics. So you're going to do the Olympics? I don't know. I should have also mentioned John Gallagher from Raven. He does the first track. We need muscle rock. And man, what a vocal he does on that song. He kicks on. Unreal. Unreal. And Niff Hell. Niff Hell, we forgot to talk about that one. It's a Bjorn Stryde from Soilwork, who does the voice on that one. Talk about those two there quickly, Ethor. That's going to be the next audio single, Niff Hell. It's going to be coming out, I believe, July 1st. And then it'll be followed up by multiple videos and singles from the album. All right. Sean, what else you got? Go on. I got, I mean, I can talk for like five hours on what I got going. I mean, I'm trying not to hog all the airtime, but. Summarize, summarize. We just put out that single, the single off the Death Dealer Concord Lands album. You know, we don't put our albums up on streaming. You have to buy the album in order to hear it. The Spotify, Evil Overlords. I don't care what any of the music business people say. You have to give it up to Spotify. I'm not fucking giving my shit to Spotify for free. When Friday rolls around and I can just click a button and listen to the album for free, fuck that. And so, and we get supported by people in the industry and the fans with taking this stand. And this song was so good. There was either this ballad that, you know, Ross is like, dude, we got to, you know, the people didn't buy this album. They got to hear this song. They got to hear the song. And, you know, it's, I don't ever sing ballads nor do I sing such depressing, horribly sad songs. And this was, this came out so good that Ross calls it. The 22 Gone, it's called. It's about 22 soldiers in America supposedly commit suicide every day, which is a staggering number. And Ross calls it the most depressing song in heavy metal history, which I'm very proud of. And we put that one out and what else? We have, I've been doing the metal daily news, mostly just to entertain myself and make my certain crack jokes about the metal news, which is pretty entertaining. And that's, that's fun. And then I've got a million other things with the Death Dealer EP is the next thing coming out. That's going to the manufacturing plant now. The Three Tremors new album is done. That comes out September or October. The New Cage album is almost done. The fourth Death Dealer album is done. The fifth Death Dealer album is almost done. I got a million guest crap I've done. I mean, it's, people are going to be so nauseated by me and like, God, another release by this guy. Tell him to shut the fuck up. Well, you know, speaking of a lot of releases, how many albums do you think Thor has released? Fantastic. It's 14, 17, 14. 39 albums. 39 fucking, holy Christ. Going, going for a million, going for a million. I saw one album of each at a million releases. I have a million seller. That's gone platinum. You're gone platinum. Sean, you might be Thor at this. That's good math. I thought I was good when I released three albums in one month on pectober a couple of years ago. I thought that was good. That's a good one. I love that's amazing three in one month. But yeah, everything's, you know, there's just going to be a major onslaught of videos. And, you know, we do tons of advertising. We were in every frickin print magazine in the world, practically, and film and a music video for the three tremors, which has got like three smoking hot chicks driving a car or beating the shit out of people. I mean, fire, blood. I'm like, what if I want to watch a music video? I want to see three hot chicks, have a couple of them make out, have them beat some dudes up, shoot some guns and light some shit on fire and speed around in a car. So that's kind of, that's the loose concept for that one right now. So you're going old school. That's what you're saying. All right. That's phenomenal. I want to see it. I want to see it. I want to hear it. It sounds awesome. All right. So I'm just trying to think of what else on this album? I mean, we've talked about a lot of it. Who else is on this album? We have, I said, Striker, Dan Cleary from Striker. Have you heard of Dan Cleary from Striker, Sean? Yeah. Yeah, Striker is cool. There's also Uncle Floyd is on the album, Uncle Floyd. You remember Uncle Floyd? No. He's very famous back in the day. David Bowie and John Lennon used to watch him religiously back in the Tri-State area. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut. And he makes a little guest appearance. He's a legendary So a lot of people, I mean, I have to make a list here. Well, I have a list in front of me. I have a list in front of me. Okay. Yeah. Well, you got everybody. But I'm kind of like me. I'm just repeating everybody's name here. Frank Meyer, Dennis Post, William Church. You know what? I'm telling you, here's something. What is an association with William Church? William Church of Hunt? I don't know. Do you know that his father played in Montrose? Oh, okay. Really? So, okay. Yeah. Okay. His father played in Montrose. Bill Church, one of my favorite bands of all time. Montrose? I've got the fire. Yeah. Yeah. You know, one of your stories about when you used to do the lunchtime male stripper shit, where all the chicks used to come into the bars and was it Hawaii? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you about that. I want to hear those stories when they're grabbing your shit all day long. I got my loincloth here. I just want to show you. Classic. That's kind of stuff that went on back then. 1974 in Hawaii. Waikiki. Waikiki, yeah. How long were you there? I was there for about a year. And like, I'll tell you that year, I'm surprised I'm still alive after that year. Like, was it like two shows a day you said or something like that? Four shows a day. Four shows a day. All women in the audience. They would have loved Jimmy Kay though, like Jimmy Kay. How many illegitimate children do you think are floating around out there on an estimate? Well, I'll tell you, I used to do a song called Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree. Heavy metal version of it. And there was a lot of ribbons floating around there and tying. We used to have the nude lunch, you know? The story was incredible. The women were just like maniacs. Yeah, they're pretty wild. Sorry, I just wanted to say that, Sean, you kind of discovered you later on as he told me, you know, from the documentary, like a lot of people have, which was cool, right? And, you know, back here in Canada, Sean, you know, we didn't have Manowar. We had Thor. He was our Canadian Manowar, you know? That's cool. That's how everybody's called it back in the day. Not to put Thor down anyway, but we had Thor instead of Manowar. So it was more, Manowar was nice popular. You know, I always respected Manowar. You know, I still say I'm the original guy who did the iron posture, whatever you want to call it, the iron fist, because we did it. How do you do it? How do you do it? Like, what is it? That's it. There it is. That's it. That's what I was thinking. Yes. That's it. Yeah. It's also in Italian. I mean something else. But anyways, Sean, we're going to let you go. The anchor of Metal News. Thank you so much for being on. The Metal Daily News. Thanks for having me. The Metal Daily News. Thor. Good to see you. Hey, great to see you. And thanks for having fun, you know? Thanks for making everything fun and being on the show and doing such a phenomenal job on the album. I mean, it's unbelievable, man. I mean, fuck, I'm amazing. To meet you sometime soon. All right, guys. I'll let you go. Thanks, Sean. We'll see you soon. Hail Hydra. Hail Hydra. Look at that. Cool. Very nice. All right. That's awesome. That's the drill of the Daily News. That's the anchor of the Metal Daily News. All right. Look, promote it. Okay. So we've got one guest left, and that's Mr. Neil Turbin. And where is he? Let's see here. Let me just send him a message. I was just going to... Yeah, I'm just going up to my room. I have to do this at this time. I've got to do this every time at this time. Okay. See my hammer? See the hammer? I love the hammer. It's amazing. Look at that. All right. We're going up the stairs. You can be at a stake with that. Every time in the afternoon, I go up into my room. I'm in my room right now, as you can see. Okay. Let me just send Neil a message here. Maybe he's just waiting here all night. Okay. All right. You all set? Jumping on. Oh, there he is. Here he is, right on time. And there we go. You all set for this? It's the opening for Neil Turbin. Look at him. He's ready for battle, Mr. Neil Turbin. What's happening, guys? How's it going? Hey, what's up? John Michael Hor, Jimmy K. How are you? Great, great. I just want to give you a greeting, because every time at around three o'clock I do this here, I'm on my balcony. Nice. When you've got the hammer here, and I always go, Behold the hammer! Right on. As long as a dog don't steal it. And every day at three o'clock you do that. You do that every day at three o'clock, right? It's kind of like the church bell, right? No, it's a, the dog does take it though sometime, you know? You're right. Okay. Gotta be sure it's not, you gotta, you know, keep the dogs away, right? Yeah, keep the dogs away. You know what, you know it's fascinating. I put on keep the dogs away, and it was released what, 79, 80? Thor, when was it released? It was released in, first in Canada in 77, and then 78 in the United States. It's just, you put that album on today, and the quality of the sound is just spectacular. What a, what a well produced album that it's lasted this long, and you could put it on and say, wow, this is a really good sounding album, right? Of course, the remaster makes it better, but you could tell it's good quality. It's like, you know, it's a 24 track, and, you know, two inch tapes, you know, when you had to splice back then, it's not like digital now, you have to actually use a razor blade to splice it. It was really, really hard to do that, and then put it together again. It was a lot harder to analog back then, but you get a rich sound. Those tube machines from the tube machines, you can hear it in that album, it's very rich. That's what, that's it. That's the quality. So Neil Turbin, I love your jacket. Thanks man. It's in the theme of, I guess, some war. Of some sort. And whatever I want to tell everybody, there's a song on the new album that Neil sings the chorus of. It's, We Will Fight Forever. Phenomenal job. Phenomenal job. I mean, it's, you just take that song to another level with your, and it's not the sort of like the screaming highs everybody's used to with Neil Turbin. This is the soul, Neil Turbin. The soul. It's beautiful. It's like unbelievable, you know, the chanting, the Norwegian chanting and he just adds so much to that song. Thank you so much, Neil. It was my honor, it was my honor Thor and Jimmy. You know, it's a pleasure to work with John because he's, you know, he's a very legacy artist that's been around, you know, since obviously the 70s and you know, someone that's, you know, very, very great to work with, you know, in the studio working with him, even live, I've had the opportunity to share the stage with the band Thor. And, you know, he's a mighty Thor for sure. And having that opportunity to work with him, I even helped sell merch one time. So, you know, it's a pleasure to work with John because he's a great people and, you know, treats you like a human being. And it's unpretentious. And, you know, that's the first part of it. But the past that, you know, just to tell the story, you know, I met Thor and I met, I guess his wife at the time. This is back in 1983, I've got to say. I think it was. And actually, no, it was even earlier than that. It was 82. And this was in farming. It was, it was Elmhurst. There was a venue back there in Long Island. And, you know, Thor was playing. And actually a band that I was part of, just prior to leaving that band, actually opened for Thor. So that's why I was, you know, the other reason I was there, because I mean, of course I wanted to see Thor. But, you know, funds were kind of tight back when you're a teenager. And, you know, so I had the opportunity and I actually spoke with Thor and, you know, it was really awesome to, you know, full circle come around here and now, you know, to meet back up with him in Hollywood and have the opportunity to get on stage with him and to also record. So, I mean, you know, you couldn't ask for a better person and a better performer, you know. I mean, you know, who else do you know that blows up hot water bottles and bends steel with his teeth and his bare strength, you know, on stage? And also, you know, just his great ideas and great concepts. I mean, this album, you know, Alliance is quite an album. I mean, it has so many phenomenal players on it and people. And, you know, to put something like that together is not an easy task. And, you know, also I got to give credit to, you know, Kevin Swain who also, you know, I've worked with closely as well on the project, so, you know, on the album. So it's been a pleasure to have this opportunity and thank you for. Well, what can I say? I mean, it's hard to believe so many years ago you wouldn't, who would know our relationship later on in life, you know, that we would be doing though, you would come on the album and do such an incredible performance. And I mean, back then you were just, you know, a young teenager, you know, in 1983. And then here we are in 2021. See, that's the great thing about music. It connects you for life practically, you know. There's no escaping it. You know, we have respect for each other. I have respect for all the guests on the album and the musicians. And there's nothing can break that bond. It's solid as a rock. You know, I got to say that. I'm just going to add to what you're going to say. When I do this show and I meet artists and people like me and people in the business, I think the most I get out of doing a show like this is the friendships, you know, being friends with you, John, and being friends with Neil and so many others. You know, it's the friendships, really. And you know, it's the passion, the friendships and the music, right? I think it's more so. There's a camaraderie in heavy metal more than any other music. I mean, like even with the Beatles, right? You know, John Lennon and Paul McCartney would write songs about how they hated each other, like how do you sleep and all that kind of stuff. But I've heard other bands and pop bands that fight with each other all the time. But, you know, just like heavy metal, there's just special camaraderie. You know, it's just unbelievable. Like who would have thought, you know, the young Neil Turbin went to see Thor back in the day, right? And, you know, today you guys are friends and you're talking. And who would have thought the young Jimmy who had Neil Turbin's fist full of metal is good friends with Neil today. So I mean, everything sort of, you know, connects together, right? And it's just bizarre, I guess, because the community is small and we kind of like all intertwined together. I'm just going to go through this out really fast. And it's going to give everybody sort of an idea of what you can expect. First of all, you could expect, you know, a great production. I'm really proud of you for that, Thor. You know, I took it upon your advice on Kevin Stewart Swain did too, that we better Jimmy said the next album has got to be incredible production or else. So he said, oh, shit, we better make sure it's good. I'm hard on people like that. I know on people that I believe in. How's that? It's tough love. Tough love. That's right. That's right. Muscle Rock with John Gallagher, like I said, it's like his vocals are incredible. Niffel, right? Soilwork, a singer, right? The Ultimate Alliance that we all know, the video that came out with Chris Holmes, Ross the Boss, Nino Sigüeta, and Fang, Fang von Frankenstein. Ote Oden, Dan Cleary, right? From Stryker, great voice. And of course, we will fight forever, Neil, who it's like a metal song, but there's a lot of soul in the chorus, which I really dig from Neil. And because we are strong, that was the bagpipe song that we were talking about. Rock Around the World, a really fun track with Danko Jones. I guess you guys share vocal duties. Queen of the Spider a little bit. Queen of the Spider, a little more of a jazzy offbeat track with Frank Soda. That's really cool. Power Hungry. Trying to remember Power Hungry. Who's guest on that one? Does anybody guest on that one? I am the guest. One guest. Baldy Hunter. You've got a lot of bottom line is you've got a lot of metal songs. You got a little bit of jazz in there. You got even sort of a post punk song like Generation Now. When I first heard Generation Now, and that's Frank Meyer, when I first said, I thought it was, you guys were doing a cover song. You guys are doing a cover song of some band in the late or early 80s. Sorry, early 80s right after the punk movement. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was really cool. But enough of that. And I guess the album sort of ends off again with we will fight a reprise with Neil Turbin doing the sort of like a guitar solo doing the verse replacing you, Arthur. And then Neil singing the chorus, which is really cool. So yeah, even Al Harlow from Prism, right? Prism is on a track today. Yes, on good stuff. And good stuff. Another cool little song. So it's really, bottom line is it's got a diverse sort of musical direction, we'll call it. I don't know. Neil, you have anything to add? Yeah, I just wanted to add that on the track that I did with Thor, I really kind of was checking it out and we were listening to it ahead of time and you know, contemplating. And you know, it was kind of a build it. You know, I mean, I had some ideas and I came to Thor and I just said, you know, this is my melodic idea for the chorus to really, you know, kind of build that chorus. And you know, back what he's doing. I didn't want to step on what he's doing. I definitely wanted to support him and, you know, do it in that respect. And then also I had this idea for the section where the guitar solo, just before the guitar solo happened and there was this big space where it was like an instrumental part, but it wasn't a guitar solo. So I thought to myself, okay, well, this is a perfect area where, you know, you could have this chant. And I know Thor, you know, is playing to audiences around the world and, you know, what a great opportunity to have a chant on the album. I don't know if there was one on other songs, but I knew that this was the spot to, you know, try something out. And he was like, yeah, go for it, man. And I did. And, you know, I was hoping that he'd like it. And, you know, I would have kept going and done more stuff if we had more time. But it was just such an honor and a great, you know, collaboration to work with Thor on this and Kevin. And, you know, it was great performing at the whiskey with Thor and also with the other guys. I know Ted was there from the folks over there. And I think, is it Wisconsin or something? And, or the other side of the country, your band? Somewhere there in Midwest. Yeah, yeah. Well, from, yeah, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Colorado, you know, those guys. So it truly was an alliance, you know, of people from all around the world. I'm trying to think of the name of Josephus and the Bryan's Jonestown massacre. If I even got the name. Yeah. Oh, they're from, those guys are incredible. They're from Nashville, Tennessee. Yeah. And they were backing you on this last go around, around the state over there. That's right. And they were great guys. And, you know, it was just a lot of fun to be part of that. And I think was it, wasn't it Betsy that was there too? Yeah. Yeah. That's right, bitch. She was there and they played tremendous. Betsy's very beautiful. And she's a tremendous vocalist. And I think she's got more muscular definition than I do. Right now. You are so. And no, no, she's, she's amazing though. She trains all the time with the weights. All right. I told her we're going to have an arm wrestle next time I see her. Okay. All right. All right. Well, you know what? I don't know. I think we pretty much covered the whole album and all the guests and the release date once again is July 16. The 39th, Neil, the 39th album by Thor, 39 albums. That's a lot of albums. Maybe I better stop while I'm ahead. What do you think? Never. 40, we're waiting for 40. Neil, what else you got to promote, Neil? Well, you know, I'm just working with my band and LA, you know, Neil Turbanislos. I've been doing singer-songwriter stuff, you know, me playing acoustic guitar and singing vocals. Also my Gretch Black Falcon and, you know, doing some, some other types of singing. And also, of course, Bleed the Hunger and Death Riders, you know, probably got something coming soon, just to release maybe a single so people can check that out. And also I'm working with a band that I used to work with in the 80s and the early 90s. The band was called Wrecking Crew. That was the evolution of the band. But it was originally a band that formed from a band called Blue Ruin, Bobby Piper, who was an XYZ. And we've got a whole bunch of tracks there. And, you know, that also has Joe Cristofinelli on bass, Joe Pofumi on drums, Bobby Piper on guitar. So that's something that we're going to be pursuing. And also, you know, I'll probably write some songs with Kevin from Thor's Band. Kevin Smith. Oh, jeez. Stealing Kevin already, huh? Man, that's what happens. We're just going to write some songs. Make everybody stars. And then, yeah. Swain Turban. That's the new band, Swain Turban. You want to write some songs, maybe send them your way, Thor. So. Yeah, that's a good idea. And, you know, I just get, you're an incredible songwriter and singer, really are. You know, I want to do some songs with you, too, but absolutely. Let's do it. And then vocal power, vocal power, Neil Turban, firepower. I do vocal, you know, vocal master session, training for all types of singers, you know, very experienced touring singers, as well as, you know, beginning singers and ones that are up and coming and intermediate. So, you know, just a different methodology, you know, that encompasses, of course, the standard, you know, types of training that you get in school that would encompass, you know, not only music theory ideas, but also, you know, proper drills and training like that, but also taking it to another level. So you can really, you know, take the benefit of someone who's been out on the road and someone who has been sick or has been, you know, you wake up in the morning and you got, you know, gravelly throat, that sort of thing, you know, you still have to do a gig and then you got 20 more gigs after that. So how do you face that? So there's those types of scenarios. And I think, you know, being faced with that, then you learn how to deal with it. And then there's the factor of no sleep, you know, it's, these are the human conditions where you heal naturally from sleep. And if you don't get any, well, that's another thing that you want to try to figure how you, how do you work around that? So those are the kind of things we go over, but obviously getting deep into the, working on, you know, what's going to help that individual. So it's a very specific, you know, very specific thing to a singer. But I just wanted to say that also I just contacted and spoke with, you'll be, you'll laugh at this one, Jimmy. Greg Walls, who I used to play the band with. So, you know, once I get my stuff back up and running here, I'm just going to be probably working on a song with Greg. Cause, you know, why not? We played in a band together, you know, for Greg. So Greg Walls is the original guitarist of Anthrax. So it's going to be called the Walls Turban Swain project. No, no, no, these are different things. So we're not lumping them all together. All right, so cool stuff. It's cool, cool stuff. Can I really look forward to the release for Thor's album, Thor Alliance. It's not about me, it's about Thor. And it's about Cleopatra Records, July 16th, correct? And Thor, what will those, what will be the, I don't know if you guys already covered it, but will it be, I guess you probably did Vinyl and CD cassette tape. I mean, has that already been covered? How your digitally format? Yeah, everything known to man, and that will be known to man. We, you know, hard copy, digital, you name it, spot, you know, Spotify, Red Vinyl, we got Silver Platters. Oh, Silver Platters. Yeah, Silver Platters will be like a flying saucer, you know, and then, and then we also have the CD, of course. The CD has 17 songs, and the vinyl has 12 songs, because you only can fit so much on a vinyl. But speaking of that, I think I heard the mailman just a minute. Hold on. Amazon. Oh, oh, look at that. It's looks like a check from Cleopatra Records. Nice, look at that. Yeah, get that. Wow, right at the same time we're talking about it, huh? I dare not open it. I'll wait till you like a surprise for later. Oh, wow. All right, guys, we've got to stop now. I appreciate, Neil, your time. I think, thank you so much, John, and the celebration of your, the new Thor album, Alliance, everybody, you know. Thank you so much. Thank you, John. Thank you, Jimmy, and it's a pleasure.