 Hello, it's Alex here from alexfurgus.com and today it is the 23rd of March 2018 which means that orring the new orring ships next month April 2018 was the shipping date so uh as I cover the orring and have a lot of reviews and blogs and you may be on one of these pages right now when you're watching this um I get a lot of questions. You know, is it gonna do this what happens here? What feature will it be able to do this, you know all these sort of things In fact, I have a lot of them myself. So I decided, you know what? Let's reach out to or and ask these questions and I know there's a lot of people who have Pre-ordered and are waiting, but they still want to know these things, you know When's it gonna share what's gonna happen with the sizing rings, etc And then there's a few people who haven't pre-ordered because they're still trying to get a bit of information or a bit of clarity around a particular feature and stuff So this video is for both of you It's actually a lot of questions that came in through the audience So thank you for those who did send through the questions And I've arranged an interview with Chuck from orring and he's very switched on when it comes to the orring He knows it inside out and he's very good with customer support and relations So he knows what questions are coming through and what people want. So he was a perfect guide interview Um, I will mention that the interview wasn't the best quality. There was a little bit of static I had to do it through my phone and through Wi-Fi Facebook. It was a Facebook live video But unfortunately you can't combine I have two people on at the same time if you're doing it through the Facebook desktop vision So we had to do it on our mobile. So sound quality is not the best video quality is nothing special But knows this so that's okay But it's it's you can give the information fine, but I do apologize for the the odd crack on the odd static Um So, yeah, it's it's really good video. We cover all sorts of topics from you know, when's it gonna ship what's gonna happen sizing rings? Can you track? Heart rate higher variability of body temperatures throughout the day. What's been upgraded? What cool things can we expect to see in the app? 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Enjoy this video and again apologies for the audio and Happy watching and yeah, talk soon All right, well someone said it's good. So that's good. Okay So Chuck is the VP of sales with O-ring and has been heavily involved in the launch and What technical side of things getting customer support With the new O-ring and I know for a fact that he's very clued up around The guts of this ring that the technical hardware side of things But also the app and the the new features that are going to be coming out So he's the perfect guy to have on this call And I do have a list of questions here. So we're gonna we're gonna start working through them And like I said for those of you listening or watching feel free to Someone see we should put in landscape, but feel free to type your questions in so if I put this on landscape what happens? Too late. We're gonna All right, so first question is obviously that's a big one. What's the latest on the shipping date for the new rings? We're still on track for next month There are no showstoppers at this point Nice. So we're talking next month like the first week mid mid No comment It'll be it'll be in the second half of the month. Yeah, if nothing else. We don't have any showstoppers and we'll be Shipping against the pre-orders well into May And before starting to build up inventory most likely All right, and then so it's still going to be that too two tiers sort of approach to the shipping like where you have Like not all countries are going to be shipped to right from day one There's a list should be on a blog post to the website as to which countries we're shipping to initially Okay I think we put out three or four Shipping updates and there's a lot of good information in those and they're stored under the blog section of our website Okay, cool. So for those of you who want to know Details around that hit it over to the ordering website Next question. What about the sizing kits? When are they gonna be shipped out? There will be a another shipping update coming out. I believe those will start shipping very early next month and That'll but that'll be clarified in the next shipping update. They're still trying to work out the final details Okay All right, cool So obviously they'll be shipped out and then the customer will trial the sizes and then let you guys know What question about this, you know, can you use the existing sizing kits for the jet one? Yeah, I've always worn a size 9 This is a size 10 The right so it's not as tight as Quite as tight as the nine is of the trisor and I think the the titanium Gen two rings will be, you know closer to US sizes because the ceramic moldings weren't exactly in some cases on the jet one so pretty much So pretty much wait until you get the sizing kits and yeah This with the first generation ring, but with the new ring I think you could safely go to a jewelry store and be sized up With this, you know, if they have the physical sizing rings and that would probably be pretty pretty down close Okay, cool. All right So last year when I was with you it's in Helsinki Slush, I'd play around with the the better version of the new app So I had the white sort of background and everything like that. It was a complete overhaul Have there been any changes to the app? Since then or is that still pretty pretty good shot of what's going to be released? Yeah, we have we've actually redone there are I Believe there are pictures on the website now of what the main screen looks like we moved to a More neutral background. It's not white So it's a lot easier on the eyes Especially in the morning when you first wake up to check your scores And it also presents the data differently. They're just throwing the three major scores on the front It's more like a view of your day. So your recovery score front and center your Exercise goal movement goal for the day and as you build up, you know against that goal that will be updated anytime you sink Restful periods during the day if you have any Where it records heart rate those will show up on that page and then you have the subpages for sleep recovery movement And then trends some of the trendy graphs that are on the cloud Nice, all right, well, that's cool. I'm excited to see more of that because yeah, like the app that I saw a couple months ago was quite Quite quite different. So it sounds like it's going to be even different again So when's the app going to ship will that ship out the same time as the new rings or will that be launched prior to the ring shipping? Same time is the new ring shipping. So it'll be sometime next month And then for those users who don't upgrade to the new Ring will they be able to use that new app? Or is it specifically exclusively for the for the new ring? No, it the same app will be used for both rings the original and the new ring But they make some feature sets that aren't supported in the old ring original ring Just the hardware to handle them Yeah So then with the app has has development going with the app like do you expect all the features to be released on day one or as some of the features kind of still in and Development mode and might not come out until later in the year Not all features that we've discussed on the website or On social media will be available day ones. We're working on throughout the summer and into the fall most likely Okay, cool. Yeah, and it's kind of what happened with the very first ring what toward years ago like Every every few months you got to app update and unlocked another feature and it was it was actually pretty cool It was like it seemed to just it was like you got a new ring every few months because it was a new feature All right was in the you know the original app that people are using will certainly be there and Hopefully a few new features But All right, I'm excited to see that so, um, obviously there's a big emphasis on Um circadian rhythm alignment and trying to find your you know your ideal circadian rhythm bedtime sleep times I've heard pizzeria talk about that and I've seen it mentioned on the website So is that going to be incorporated into the app like is the app Going to say look your ideal bedtime is between nine and ten o'clock for instance Yes, so we in The beta app. I think you've seen Uh under the I think it's actually under the right in the screen, but maybe anyway, it's well under one of the screens But yeah, so it's sort of like a heat plot diagram So pretty easy for us to look at your past data And look at you know, what time you went to bed each night and what the sleep score was the next morning for that night And from that we can use a heat plot diagram or something like that to zero in on When you've got your highest scores related to when you're at the bed So that's the beginning of circadian alignment Uh, so it's you know, it basically will help you identify For your circadian rhythms. You should go to bed say at 10 10 at night or something like that between 10 10 and 10 30 Yeah, right. That's really cool. And then what about wake times? Will it look at that as well? Like will it give recommended wake times? um that uh Yeah, I mean, yes, I mean we haven't started to look at that yet um because It's a little more complicated because then you have to look at How restored of your sleep was from all the various features to look at And so you could certainly do that But the problem is is most people their job may not be flexible enough to allow for that So you've got to have a you know, it's definitely something we could look at but it's not something It's like on an immediate roadmap Fair enough. All right, and then what about um, what about using the app to have like, uh Like will the app sync with the ring and sort of Help you wake up in the light sleep phases or anything like that? I know there's a few tools floating around that specifically do that. Uh, is that something that you guys are looking at? Well, so it's sort of yes, we could certainly do that and it wouldn't be that difficult But there are two things one we One of the advantages of the ring is it's it's pretty low emf if you do nothing with the airplane mode It's on less than two minutes a day And part of that is we bluetooth while you're sleeping. So to affect Doing something like that. You'd have to have the ring being being pinged with a phone like all the time Yeah, people want the bluetooth firing off every five minutes Three a.m. To whenever they wake up And the other thing is I know a lot of Our users actually put their ring manually into airplane mode And so you can't talk to the phone. You can't know where to know when to wake you up Yeah, yeah, even if that function was there, I I personally wouldn't use it for those probably reasons I just wouldn't I don't know like having that bluetooth pulsing or not um, but yeah, it's going to be interesting like With your I mean look if if you guys can or if the ring can sort of Help determine the ideal sleep time bed time and then from there you're naturally waking at a good, you know time anyway um You know what I mean like focus on the sleep time and everything else should take care of itself Real quick before I continue with these questions, uh, I I'm just getting a little bit of like static coming through on my end Uh, can you hear me okay? Hey fine And everyone listening there's no issues With the audio Well, no one's saying anything so either they can't hear me or there's no issues All right. Well, as long as you can hear me good. So that's the main thing. Um, all right. So next question Real-time tracking. So I've seen this mentioned a few times. I know we've spoken about it and previous, um Someone said sorry. I'm just seeing this comments coming through someone said it's a bit crackly and someone said that can hear me fine I'm just going to pull these headphones out. I'll see if it's all right. So um Yeah, I'm still getting the crackling without the headphones Anyway, so I know we've spoken about this a little bit earlier about the real-time tracking component I know what it might be. It might be this microphone. That's right next to me Let's see if that helps. Um, what can you just give us a bit of an update? On the real-time tracking You know aspects or features of the you know, right I think it's been I know in the support channels have asked a lot about this We use infrared sensors. Infrared sensors do not like movement Imagine every time you move your hand to your fingers fairly aggressively the amount of extra blood flow through the arteries we're monitoring Uh, it creates a lot of noise So with the new ring, uh, it's got improved infrared sensors So we truly believe and we need to test this out more that we can actually tolerate a lot more movement than with the first ring So our our estimation is that over the course of 24 hours We believe we can activate the sensors up to 14 hours out of the 24 hour period So that's all of unless you're extremely restless In a piece of the day and those are times when you're less active You certainly can't be active and expect those to be turned on Okay, you got it. So then like, uh, would there be an option to like Check your hrv or your heart rate on the month? Like if you just if you just want to see your heart rate at this point in time, is that going to be a You just chill, you know, don't be active just sit still and The sensors will turn on and those will show as restful periods in the app It'll show your heart rate and if your rest Still long enough It'll show your hrv because we need a five minute sample for hrv Got it. All right, so you just relax open up the app wait a few minutes and then you'll see the data. That's cool All right, uh, what else we got here, um Will there be so with those with that sort of option, uh, being able to track your your heart rate heart rate variability and stuff Will there be the option to to work in sort of some rules or like some triggers and say, you know, like If my heart rate variability drops below this number like the lumb or the apple beep or anything like that Is that something you guys have looked at? Uh, it's not something I've heard discussed. Uh, I think the use case is for health issues or Over-training perhaps I don't know or stressed. I suppose Yeah, I suppose if someone was doing some like meditation or something can they Yeah, have the app and we haven't fully fleshed out. I mean when you bring up meditation Or something like that, uh, that is a use case. We're going to be supporting the app where you can Um, advertely, you know turn the sensors on Uh, going to meditate. I don't know how that'll be implemented per se in the app, but there will be A conscious activation of the sensors turning them on Got it. So Kevin's just asked uh, if it's it by relaxing, does that mean I can't trick it check it while training And yeah, I think Chuck was sort of saying like it's it's based on movement, you know So if you're moving a lot then it's not going to be able to take a reading. Is that that's correct, right? Yeah, and one of the things I look at is I mean You know, I I'm somewhat interested in heart rate while I'm training But heart rate is fairly flawed because of drift and other things. I'm a runner But is when you stop exercising is how How far does your heart rate come down in 90 seconds? And you could do that with the ring certainly but yeah, right So I know like, uh, I know some other apps like the elite hrv app I had that action where you finish your intervals or your run or whatever and then you hit that recovery mode And it would track all the data and then spit out a recovery score. So yeah, I can I can see and then plus to be honest I mean, I don't know. I'm not I'm not into You know too much aerobic based training like you would be but When I did used to do some sort of rowing and cycling I'd you know, I'd use the specialized tools and apps for those For those things, you know, like I me personally, I just viewed the aura as my sleep recovery Sort of wellness wearable. But then if I wanted to go out and run a marathon, I'd probably strap on You know a garment or a bowler that had the GPS and you know Caden's the best tool for the job, right? Yeah All right. So what else we got here? Uh So the inactivity alerts, I know that's in the current ring But again, you have to bluetooth on uh, and it will give you a little reminder saying, hey, you know, you've been Inactive for a while Great feature, but someone asked if those alerts will be adjustable, you know, rather than saying You know, you haven't moved for an hour. Maybe you can change it to like two hours or Or 45 minutes or something. Do you know if that will be adjustable? Uh, I haven't heard that discussed, but we have talked more generally about um, personalization And I don't know where this is in the roadmap, but for instance Uh, you know, like some of the apps you can specify You're anything from a couch potato to an elite athlete And if that would actually trigger different goal settings per day Right. And so it wouldn't just be based on your age, gender You know that sort of thing and and you could also have you know in that kind of thing is allow people to set Triggers like how long do I sit and how long should I move before I'm good to sit again kind of thing But I'm not sure when that'll be put in but that is something we should stop Okay, cool. And so I had a question come in. It was about It was a couple weeks ago now it was In regards to the cloud app and so they asked, you know, when is the cloud Dashboard going to be out of better vision and are there more features in the pipeline? And I know since then there's been quite a big update on the cloud Um, I had a play around the other day and it is pretty cool But is that is that I know with software you're always adding new features and new tweaks and everything like that But but is that something that um, it's the cloud is the cloud dash at a point now where you're, you know You guys are happy with it for for launch day or are there still some big big features in the pipeline? Yeah, well, yes, it's not going to change a lot before before launch day You know looking out later in the year will at some point Put the proverbial lipstick on it. You know make it a little bit prettier. Maybe change some of the navigation And continue to add more features You know some of the stuff that You know will support in the app like people have asked You know, can you add notes and yes in the upcoming app you'll be able to add notes Is making sure those notes make it up to the cloud and allowing you to add notes in the cloud That would actually show in the app or that kind of stuff and so that some of that stuff will happen later So yes, we'll keep we'll keep improving the cloud But is it still available? I don't know if it bothers you put duct tape over your screen No, I think um, yeah that question did come in a while back. I'm not a while back It was a good month of soga and I feel like um, yeah, you know I mean, I've been using the cloud since day one and uh, it's perfectly functional So but it keeps getting better and better. So someone just asked um gonna use your code. How do I size your ring? So yeah, you must have missed that what will happen is when you place a pre-order You'll get sent out a sizing kit and then you you just You know go through those sizing rings, you know, sleep on them Use them for a day or two and then you'll let ore know what what size you want and then they'll ship you the The in-product when it's ready. So you don't have to go to a jeweler, but you could if you wanted to Yes, there are three options that we've discussed one is we're gonna send you a kit two You go to a jeweler because we truly believe the new ring Is 100 accurate to a us sizing or three send you a cat file and let your 3d print them if you have a 3d print Yeah, right Now people have asked for that so pretty simple Yeah, I suppose it would save you guys a bit of money as well not having to ship out All right, um, so go back to the app real quick. So I think I know the answer to this one, but I'll ask it anyway Um, so with the app overhaul have the personal messages That the app spits out they'll be refreshed or added to or um, they will yes. Yes, and yes Yeah Well, it was a start right is trying to get out some guidance and it was fairly static And so we will be Making leap a big leap forward in personalizing those messages to the user you going through their data Historically and trying to provide better guidance And so yes, that will be improved Okay, listen, um Sorry, it's it's going to be a complete overhaul architecturally All right. No, I look forward to seeing it Uh, someone asked will there be more sports listed in the activity page? Uh, yes, I mean we'll continue to add them as people request them Uh, you know I mean, I know maybe even badminton's in there because one of our Iowa developers plays badminton, but you know, if somebody has something that we'll add it Okay, awesome. Um, and I know we've kind of covered this And I know the answer But I'm going to ask it anyway because it seems to be one of those questions that like just always comes up and it was in regards to tracking your tracking activity Does the will the new ring use heart rate to help determine? You know activity intensities and levels and I know we've already covered this but You know, maybe just just refresh it for those people You know, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole, but I'm very passionate about this topic Heart rate is not the way to track the intensity of an activity. I know some people would disagree with that Uh, it has a lot of flaws not the inaccuracy of most of the devices that track heart rate even chest straps Um, but anyway, no, we're not going to be using heart rate to gauge the intensity of the activity There's most most science uses metabolic equivalence. It's well established And research it works fine And um, will you still recommend? Like if I go out and do a strength workout, would you still recommend Logging that manually into the app? Or do you think with the new sensors that it'll be able to figure out what you what you're doing or How do you go? How are you guys approaching that? So I would still log the activity in the app and the reason is the new ring has a gyro And the big thing that allows you to do is it makes it easier if you train the device and you have to train it for each movement Do you do in a gym? And I think the catalog is 140 movements And you so you have to write basically a little stick at the code It goes in the firmware to say okay. This person's doing deadlifts And so we we will work on that over time Uh, but it's it's a big project and if you look at even the big players like Fitbit or Garmin They're they're very slowly adding movements To their watches because it takes a lot of time and effort Okay, that's cool. Um, so this is a question that came through and it's actually something that I don't know the answer to And should have asked myself a long time ago, but regarding the temperature graph and the app Um, what is the baseline figure? So like, you know for For this morning Sorry, it's your baseline So, but what is that? Is it is it a predetermined number or is it an average or like like this the zero So once you take the ring into use over the first one or two weeks We establish what your norm is Right and then from there we start showing the deviations against that baseline norm normal for you Because not everybody's 98.6 Fahrenheit whatever that is in Celsius Uh, it it so the normal is your normal. That's your baseline And is that updating like is that a two week rolling average or two months or is it Well, I mean I don't know the exact answer that and we can certainly ask the science department because that might be a good thing to clarify Uh, yeah Yeah, I think it would be Um, yeah, so I I mean I think you know, I think it it must but I don't know how often I mean, I know if you take a new ring into use like if you always broke and you got a replacement Uh, the the temperature sensors are calibrated And validated, but there could be some minute differences And so it would have to baseline based on that, you know, that'd be the smart way to do it Okay, all right. Well, yeah, maybe maybe that's something you guys can look into and spit out Look at the algorithms and that because that would be interesting. I know um, like I spend a lot of time tracking Body temperature and I deal with all my clients as well. Um, so when you see the the differences, you know, the changes I'm like, oh, that's cool. But I'm like, what what's the change based on? Is it like the day before? Is it last month? So yeah, no, that's uh, that's a good answer and um, I look forward to learning a little bit more about that Okay I do know that it is the deviation off your baseline Got it. Okay. Um So I know you guys launched the api a while ago Are there any um apps that have been working with you guys that are gonna, you know, coming out saying we we plug in with aura ring Uh with the new When the new uh when the new ring comes out or um later on this year is it? Yeah, we've we've had uh several uh independent organizations that are pulling off the api then there's at least one, uh sort of uh Consolidator of api is called human api. It is pulling data our site Ah, cool. So what are they doing? What's that? What what what do they do with that data? Do they have a so what they would do is so uh, give you a give you a real life example There's a uh a website. I came in with an app. It's called heads up health Yeah, and heads up health is trying to create a dashboard where you can make really cool correlations between doctors report, you know records lab reports from blood testing Uh various wearables scales food loggers all this stuff And so some of the stuff heads up health pulls directly from the company and other companies They pull the data from human api because human plugins from like garmin fitbit Strava fitness my fitness pal withings or nokia scales lab core Quest lab, you know blood mark. So all kinds of like that So it makes it easy for someone like heads up health to develop a really cool application They don't have to worry about dealing with aura and all these other companies Okay, cool. Um, all right, that's good. And then So another question here and again, we've kind of covered this Uh, but I'll ask it anyway. Uh, so we'll then you out tell me a bit more about what is going on with my body And uh for anyone that hasn't used roaring or the roaring app before I mean, that's that's exactly what the roaring does I mean, it's telling you when you're overstressed when you're sleep deprived Um, you know, your body tip bridge is fluctuating It's telling you all those things and Chuck's already explained how it's going to look more Exciting rhythm and help you with you know, ideal sleep times and stuff But is there anything for those of us who have been using the ring are familiar with it? Is there anything else maybe that will be coming out that you know, it's going to tell us right, so Yeah, so uh adding notes is helpful because one of the things You know, we're measuring your body Your body responses, right while you're sleeping and we can learn a lot of interesting things But the big missing piece is we don't know what you actually did You know the couple hours where you fell asleep and So adding notes to your To the app or in the cloud eventually will help us to You know look at your past data and help you find correlations Um On why maybe you how you might be able to improve your sleep make it more restorative The other thing is where we're looking at And this won't be available day one, but is developing sort of we call programs So there might be like a short little Citizen experiment right so you you say okay. Yeah, I want to I'll do this like we tell you Hey, give up coffee for two weeks and see what that does to your sleep and recovery. Just give it up And you know things like that some of them will be fun But hopefully from these people could learn of things that can change lifestyle choices they can make It will improve their sleep in their life Yeah, that's um, I'm divine Yeah, it's something I'm really looking forward to You know, because I know that the ring is so accurate and pulling and all this amazing data But then being able to add in your own Data as well on top of that and uh, also, I mean people just like learning about their body and learning You know what how things like giving up coffee impacts their sleep is up some people Don't really connect the two until there's a app or a device telling you. Hey, look when you've given up Coffee, this is what's happening to your sleep. So I think those little those little project ideas and stuff will be will be really cool And especially seeing the data the data is going to be like, you know, it'll be awesome. I especially for a number Geeks or you know data nerds like like myself will be like so you really um Interesting to see that sort of stuff. Uh, okay. So another question. Um, have you personally tested prototypes of the ring? And if so, what are your feelings around the ring? Yes, I have I like it. I mean I You know, I'll be honest the the original warring is a conversation starter So, you know, when you're in public people will notice this more than they'll notice this But despite that, I mean I like this the smaller size, especially if you have pants on you go to put your hand in your pocket You know And that's the most obnoxious things I find I hit it less on like tables and other objects without moving Because you just don't have the at the top Uh, other than that, it's you know, it's it's a similar experience. I mean, you know, still getting the rich sleep data and the recovery score and and uh You know the tracking during the day moving around which I think is important And then what about battery life? Are you getting the week? Oh, that's your life? It's easily a week. Yeah A week is is no problem Wow, that's cool. That's very cool. So for those of you who don't have the gen one ring You're getting well two days, maybe three at best Yeah, you'd get two nights sleep for the first Yeah, yeah Yeah, so I mean, I've always just got up every morning and and charged it first thing in the morning That's that's just the routine that I use but every now and then, you know Like you you go to a friends or you go away for the weekend and you forget to take your charger It's like, ah, damn it. So um having that week long Uh doorbell just meant having that week long. Um, I bet your life is going to be pretty cool So have you have you trained with it? Like, you know, have you tested it in the elements like saunas or like weightlifting or anything like that? Uh You talked the wrong guy for weightlifting Or we need to talk You're gonna get me out of plan, but uh, I haven't personally lifted with it on I think A couple of our employees have But even though it's not the ceramic it's titanium. I still wouldn't Lift heavy without at least gloves on Uh just because metal pinching your fingers scratching the titanium So we have to take it off or you know hang it around your neck kind of thing Anyway, but uh, yeah, I've been up in the the mountains of new hampshire just last weekend and It was six degrees fahrenheit. I don't know if that is the Celsius, but it was cold and the wind was going 60 miles an hour Uh, we get some of the worst weather in the u.s. You know white knots in new hampshire, believe it or not And so yeah, we're up there. It was fine. It did fine Okay, that's good and no doubt it will work fine in saunas given that The lead development team are all finished. That's right Um, but yeah, it's interesting you say that around the weightlifting because uh, so those of you who have seen my videos and read my reviews Like I use my ring my ring like every day and I train with it You know, I've done some massive deadlifts with it and it hasn't even scratched and that's over two years old form Sorry, you have good form. I guess. Yeah, I must do but the funny thing is uh, I'm now wearing this stainless steel band I got I got married like a couple weeks ago five weeks ago now and um I can't train with it. I have to take it off. It does exactly what you said like it pinches and everything So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what um, what the new one's like, but that's cool. Uh, and then The last question and I know you've answered this. Um Personally to me, but I'll ask it for the for the crowd Are there any plans to support multiple rings? That are connected to the one app So for instance someone has multiple rings, you know, they got a rose gold one They want to wear with their dress and then they've got their silver ring for day-to-day use Will they be able to connect them both to the same app? Uh, not in the current plans. I I think that's uh Something we should work towards Because I know other companies can do this Um, I Garmin for instance, I have way too many garments and I can connect in the same app about a problem So it's something we should definitely look into because for the obvious reasons now with the The variety of styles and colors And it might even grow through partnerships into other things Designs that we should definitely look at that Yeah, and I suppose also Sorry, I suppose that um, if anyone then wanted to keep using their gen one and then also have the gen two It'll be the same thing, right? You'll have to have two Well, it won't it won't merge the data or yeah, I mean it won't connect to the same app, will it? No, no, and that yeah, and that's And again, if we did it right, we'd do it like Garmin's done Garmin. You can switch between any of their wearables And as long as see I'm using this one now it still Populates everything the my day view that they have steps mileage stress level whatever It works fine. So that's the way we do it. And again, I we've had people request us even with the first generation rings One use case the person didn't want to miss any data So they had two Oh my god, well, yeah, I know so anyway, but yes with the styles and stuff I think it's something we should definitely do but it's it's not something we'll be offering in the immediate future I know that for sure So I'll run to the list Cool. All right. Well, it sounds like There's going to be some really cool new features, especially around the app and then as the months and years go by I'm sure there's only going to be more and more cool new things coming out It sounds like you've got a lot of a lot of potential pathways to go down. So that that's exciting um Yeah, I mean that's that's everything I had and I've I've been through the questions that have come through And I think we've covered everything if anyone has any final questions before we wrap up Um, let me know. I hear here was one. Uh, is it possible to check the temperature and pulse? Um during the day like after a meal? Yes, probably uh, tell people Your skin temperature is only the same as your core temperature while you're sleeping This is part of your nocturnal biology So you cannot check your core temperature from your skin during the day. It just will not work Yeah, you just have to use a two dollar thermometer for uh, that's right They have other ones you can use now that are digital that I think you can just shine them in your ear and get a pretty good temperature Yeah, like infrared ones and yeah, so many Um, yeah, uh, so someone else can you note to the net we at we covered that Is there a money back guarantee policy? Yes, 30 days. Yeah, all right, uh, and I'm just going through everything else Um, I don't think there's any other questions. If anyone has any final questions before we go Please send them through right away. Otherwise. Um, yeah, I think that's it. I mean, is there anything else you wanted to add? No, I think I'm good Okay, cool. All right. Well, thank you for your time and enjoy the rest of your evening And I do apologize for the delay in the technical issues getting started Uh, it's the joys of facebook life. Um, but we got there in the end Yeah, but anyway, if you if you do get questions after this just ping me and I'll look after an answer them On your okay. Yes Yeah, all right. So if anyone's listening, you know, even put them in the comment box on here Um, or send them through to me and I'll do my best to get them answered and forward them through to chuck Uh, so yeah, again, um, elixir from elixiris.com chuck from Where are you basing at the moment? Uh, uh, just outside of uh, norwich vermont Uh, so he's in the u.s. Yeah Okay, so nice. So uh chuck yep for more rings. So thanks again and um So that the big question that I got uh, when is it gonna ship? We still don't have a definitive answer on that, but it'll be sometime next month So it's getting closer every day it's getting closer. But for those of you who um, have ordered I'm told the uh, sizing kits will be sent out later Um, and for those of you who haven't ordered you still got time and there is a pretty good special going on at the moment A pre-order special in fact, uh, or have given me a hundred dollar off coupon code Which is just my last name which will save you saves you a hundred bucks, which is quite impressive And that's only valid. I need to check how long it's valid for but it's not long like maybe a couple days So yeah, I think it's no no early no longer than the end of the month Okay, yes, so there we go Good point out for people too that at some point prior to shipping We are most likely going to stop taking pre-orders Uh, just because of planning our manufacturing capacity and all that stuff So if you want it order, I would get it in now soon Yeah, otherwise you might be waiting a long time or your friends might have the right So, you know later in May when we have inventory to Right, okay So you won't you might not get it on day one or something like that Um, plus you won't you won't get the savings because it's it's a huge saving. It's like 30% off, which Yeah, I've been saying I mean I understood that epic deal You know on day one with the launch, but having it so close to um to shipping day. I'm like man, it's quite impressive So anyway, uh, check that out If you have any questions, let me know if you've enjoyed this hit like make sure you head over to um alexfews.com where I've got a ton more information Videos I've got hands-on videos with the ring and also go to the aura website because I've got it's a really good Resource there where a lot of these questions that we asked. I know you have already been answered and great data on their blogs So make sure you hit over there as well because there's there's also information and subscribe to the email list because that That's seen in our shipping updates and various other updates as well. So take those resources out. I'm going to wrap it up here Thanks again Chuck and thanks for all of you guys who were listening and ask the questions signing out. Bye. Bye