 And it's still the breakfast in Plostivia, Africa. Tunde Kola will be joining us via phone this morning. He's a legal practitioner. Tunde, it's good to have you join us. Good morning, my teacher. Thank you for having me. And thank you for joining. We set off with the leadership. On the leadership newspaper as Reconciliation Process drags, Wicke hits PDP again, says party towing path of failure. That's what it is. And there's also another comment that was attributed to him. And he said, what will he profit him? You know, if he joins the APC. Well, underneath of the leadership, the board caption on the leadership, you find, once again, the Buja politicians polarizing the party, ask Artiku to scrutinize supporters' electoral value. Nigerians are getting tired of the situation. And that's what you find. Another one says, as a caption on Leadership Foundation chairman, that Azai Abag's Blueprint Post-Humors Award. OK, not very relevant for us at the time. Seven Zamfra family members die after vegetable meal. I mean, it feels like there's something about food poisoning recently, because you have one or two persons whose meal has been contaminated. IBB at 81, Bullet has no ethnic religious bias. Let's unite against insecurity. I remember when my grandmother talks about experiencing the war. It's not something that anyone wants to experience. And so the bullets will not discriminate where you're from. It's not a good thing. And we should guide against it. Of course, you have a stakeholder speaking. Strike asks you federal government meeting and in debt lock. Nigeria to save $2 trillion from malaria elimination. President Mohamed Abu-Hari is saying, economy in security orders top agenda is governor's meet today. And I sit on the leadership newspaper. Let's go to the next newspaper on our table. And of course, this time we're talking about, not about the leadership, but we're looking at the punch newspaper. The headlines on the front page of the punch are quite interesting. The paper leads with this one. Atikoo, or PDP crisis. Atikoo, we case men hold peace talks on Friday. Are we not tired about this? Some people are tired, but I'm not tired. It was quite interesting to hear some of the things that the governor of River State has said in recent times. Very, very strong words. So I think the politician, I guess, rather would tell us some more about this. PDP crisis. Atikoo and we case men hold peace talks on Friday. The writer to that, a party that wants to win election cannot be involved in fighting. River's governor, Atikoo's camp wants meeting to hold in Abuja. Fintiri leads delegation, says sources. If I were Atikoo, I would take next flight to Podhakot and close this chapter. Ohamubuwa may have a point, because the recent picture from we case sprawling mansion on other George road in Podhakot is a private residence. But some rivers will call the government house, the new government house. It shows some former governors and present governors in PDP with Peter Obi and the wiki in a very nice and friendly picture. So they need to move fast in the PDP. Maybe, I will see what I guess says. The next one from the punch, power generation falls by 503 megawatts, workers threaten strike. ASU-FG meeting, deadlocked, lecturer stage workout. Bandits IPOB members threats to 2023 elections or Damba's I'll say in that one. Y7 million diasporas, other Nigerians unregistered. This is according to INEC. US group opposes Benin Brown's return to Nigeria. 30 children, 144 Libya returnes arrive Nigeria. Can see a picture of them on the front page of the punch. That's still an issue and one to keep an eye on. Four students celebrating wasps at Lagos Beach Drown. It's a heartbreaking one. Four students celebrating wasps at Lagos Beach Drown. Murdered Marpoly Queen's corpse found on her birthday, so according to her friend, an FIIRO restores demoted officers' salary amidst fraud trial. These are the headlines on the front page of the punch. Well, let's take a look at the daily trust newspaper that's been made available by a paper vendor. No respite for operators as aviation fuel heats 903 Naira. That's per liter. Nigerians show on air travel over high costs of tickets. I mean, who would not? Lagos Abuja return flight now 200,000 Naira. Abuja canoe, you have 160,000 Naira. And experts predict higher fare airlines caught flight. Month after month, the National Assembly resolution not yet implemented. These are the writers. I mean, I wonder what would happen because we're approaching the festive period. And you know, usually a lot of persons would like to go back home and celebrate, you know, with family, friends and what have you. It will just become, you know, a difficult time. We also saw pictures emanating. I mean, there were pictures from the airport where you see the airport's various country. It just shows that it's a lot. Well, we get to a tickle. Voters not rumor peddlers will decide your fate. And 2023 Boni Dambanzoa acts Nigerians to show on religious sentiment. Matawale, okay, is death penalty for kidnappers, bandit and informant. Desquired in Kwan Kusso's NNPP, Shakarow decides on next exit. Again, abductors of Nasser were commissioned to demand 100 million Naira just before move away from the Daily Trust newspaper, malaria budding on Nigeria to reach 2 trillion Naira by 2030. That's what the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria is quoted to say. That's the much we can take this morning on the Daily Trust. Let's move over to the nation before we bring our guests in very quickly. We'll run through the headlines on the front page of the nation. The big one there, as you can see, 2023. Desquired in PDP as Obin meets WK Otom others. Party on self-destructive path, says reverse governor, are you must go. Rain to pound Legos Ogumoshu or your own dough, Eki Tiedou. All right, we're looking, it doesn't look like that these days. Maybe we are on the, what we call the August break. But we have to prepare for that. This is what the authorities are saying. Conditions of remaining 27 train attack victims critical, says negotiator. Jai's, okay, we'll leave that one. Don't lose hope, IBB tells Nigerians. Show this as he clocks 81. Happy birthday to him. Insecurity, terrorists bandits are threat to 2023 polls, says Dambazar. Governors meet today on insecurity. Legos stakeholders seek total ban on Okada. More from the nation, federal government, ASU talks deadlocked. Federal government, ASU talks deadlocked. Thog shoots four in Ondo. Nema receives 174 Libya returnees. And the final ones from the nation, Washington police intercept 14 suspects, 12 motorcycles in truck, and 14 drowned in Legos. Let's bring it at this point. Guest, Tunde Kolaouale, legal practitioner. Thank you very much for your time, Barista. Let's start with Wike and the PDP. And of course, Artikou Abubakar. Artikou has been told to hop on the next plane, as we can see on the front page of the punch newspaper, to Podhakot. Hop on the next plane to Podhakot, go see Wike, close this chapter out. Do you agree with that? Looking at what's been happening in the meetings Wike has been holding in recent times, days. Well, I agree that Elijah Shippewa Abubakar require to reconcile with Wike and all other persons who may be abusing the PDP. When you are putting a major election, like the 2003 election, you cannot talk to them when you do have the divided house in your hand. So to that extent, I agree that the reconciliation is the very prime and Elijah Shippewa workhouse agenda. And we are seeing how that has worked wonders within the PDP. Immediately as soon as we emerge as the presidential flag theater of the PDP, they went around all the other participants trying to make PDP stand. And we are from the middle-aged process that our reconciliation process is still continuing. And the manner that we carry the reconciliation process higher on product and deeper than what it is after the summary of the PDP by missing out the people like Wike and some of the product is considered an element within some of the product political party. But what I don't agree with is that we should take the next slide to protocol. For me, that would be an appeasement. A party member or the different political parties have constitutions, rules and regulations which provides to our members to behave their conduct and their responsibility towards the political parties. Wike would think about the obligations that we hold the PDP under the constitution, and under ethics of the practice of the policies. Like I said before, the mind is not using like an envelope who has been talked about by the answer but it's not within the, it's not yet inside the part of the answer. But it is given like a wounded and live for a minute and tell them. And we also give people the impressions that the party has borrowed money or emptied the bank so they get to compare that to a primary, a presidential primary of the PDP. First of all, if it's neck-dripping there, you will require to pay back that debt. Another of these days is that they have to put pressure on a larger people of background, the PDP, put heat on them so that they will begin to negotiate things and consist of many things to them and make it possible for facilitator is going to receive his indebtedness. And you and I will know, indebtedness may not just be an envelope, money-free means a loan, it may have cut the cost of the commodities in airs made to some people. So rather than appease Wike, I will prefer so that the party and the people of background to withdraw into line. I have a strong feeling that a larger people of background as the resources, as the rich, as the experience, as the connection, to win the PDP, to win the presidential election with or without Wike, I have that strong belief that when you are fighting a war, you will have a strategy, you will have a tactic. A larger people of background, politicalist speaking, is both in mass of strategy and that of tactic. All right, Tunde Kolawale, let's take a look at the leadership newspaper. It's about the federal government and ASU. And we know that ASU had been on this strike since the 14th of February, 2022. And just yesterday, there were feelings that it might just be better. They would come to a consensus or some level of agreement. But unfortunately, that meeting did not come to some any kind of agreement. What are your thoughts? I mean, time is actually going. The calendar year has been distorted for the students. And what does this mean? What we are having in the area of higher education is a strategy of monumental proportions. That the university, I mean, that our university will be short-term for all part of this month and then we will be unable to find solutions to the problems in that area. And don't forget, go and do your analysis. In the return to this people rule, go and do your part fine. You will be shocked about the numbers of days that ASU and generally the higher institutions in Nigeria have gone on strike in the return to this people rule. And I keep saying this. It is not democracy at all. It is not what we do in the National Assembly in Abuja in the respective data assemblies. Or in the data column of government, both at the local government, state level and the federal level. That translates into development. The time for development is education. After education, you need disciplinary leadership. After disciplinary leadership, you need very easy land follow-up. All the countries of the world that are developed, they are developing a rest on education. Go and set the US. Go and set this thing. It is the other, it is the Cambridge, it is the MIT and Lauda. Tundakala Wale, all right. Well, we neglect education. I don't know if people find solutions to there and Lauda. You don't have any own development. Tundakala Wale, let's come back to some of the issues now. I mean, ASU, I mean, if you look at the consents of ASU at the end of the day, it's financial. Some of the consents are financial, you know, apart from the payment platform system, which they have also asked, but really improving funding, some sort of increment of salary, an agreement that was made in 2009. And to be very honest, the federal government has been saying that they don't have what it takes, you know, no funds, lack of funds. That's what it is. Now, the meeting with the federal government, the BRICS committee that was being set up, it was reported that why there was no form of agreement was because there was no new offer on the table. And the federal government had asked you that the strike should be called off because your consents will be reflected in the 2023 budget. And that's what it is. But let's look at the crux of the matter now. Funding is a big issue. The government is saying they don't have the resources because if you're talking about increasing, you know, the salaries, we're going to be looking at a lot, about 560 billionaire, you know, expenditure for the government. And so shouldn't we begin to consider this as, you know, a reality, especially when we see what's going on in our economy? I agree that we need to generate new form of education because without forming education, the responsibility that the education sector have to the migrant people is difficult to make, for me. But the truth of the matter today is that the country is bankrupt. And when the country is bankrupt, the alternative is to have to meet the obligations of whatever monarchy requires us to make. We need that to merely print money and give to us to do whatever they want to do, which is at the end of the day lead to inflation or other sectors of the Nigerian economy and society will be shot down to satisfy our human demand. That is what I have recommended. In fact, I wrote to a lot of people in the later newspaper saying there are two people, as intelligent people, as one of the smartest people in our money to concentrate their energy on good governance. And I want to concentrate on their energy on good governance and we have the right people in power who are able to generate income, value, develop the economy, and manage the image of the country to that place. There are a lot of resources in the fridge, not just to develop the educational sector, but also in social and health and world view. But as it is today, the answer is we are not looking that direction. Which area of our lives not to run down? We have just mentioned the education sector this morning. Look at what is cost, the education for a per liter. Look at how health care has skyrocketed because of the challenges in that sector. The state of our roads, most of these places, are epileptic. The project has to put on the battle front. We have to buy a treatment and now that also provides a stretcher allowance for them and also feed them. All this is cost money and it is the daily resources that you are also looking at to find the funds for it. Oil and food wear is no longer selling the way to sell in the intelligent market because people are looking at a society's energy. So if I were asked to, if they would be honest with themselves, they took away their energy on making sure that good people get into government. When good people get into government, all areas of our lives would be adequately funded. Because when people who are good at government, they will be better and future managers of resources. What actually is into them for me is just looking at the case of war, which is not likely to bring any results. In fact, at the end of the day, it will bring about a new class of stock shops. Not just the ASU, not just the investment system and also the digital endowment. Or maybe we should think of selling of our universities to... No, I don't think so. If you sell off the universities, then the poor people in our mess will not be able to access universities or higher education. What will they let? Well, we are the private universities. We are a very creative way by which we can manage the universities. We are a very creative way by which we can manage all the research institutions. Don't forget that the research institutions are doing the same thing that the universities are doing. They also do teaching. But all the research institutions are also one that both of them are research, both of them are nine-hours, both of them are three-hours in bad energy, both of them are two-hours research to the normal. They are all one-hours and they're not prepared because of poor performance. They are like, no activities in there. They only draw salaries and then they go back out to play. We need to really begin to talk about good governance, rather than the quantum of money that goes into the pockets of individuals as studies and movement. Quite interesting. Toon De Kola, let's move on to some other stories. And this issue is one that will continue to be in the conversation until the strike is suspended, at least. Hopefully that Utah's agreement can be signed today so that we can have the students go back to school. But some Nigerians feel that the federal government now beginning to yield to some of ASUS demands is only a ploy to make sure students go back to school during the election period so they don't vote. You know, I've lived some comments this part of my way. Some people are not taking it. These are the same people who will say, no, federal government end ASUS strike. Yeah, I do edit the workshop for a table to do whatever it wants on this on the side. Absolutely. OK. The Daily Trust has its lead story talking about aviation fuel. No respite for operators as aviation fuel hits 903 Naira. What are your thoughts on that? You know, Nigerians are shunning air travel over high costs of tickets. I mean, we told Abuja Kanukos 168. Look at this. I have a friend who used to manage an aviation who was an MD of an aviation industry from 20 years ago. You know, I found back at the 20 years ago that he was managing one of the airlines. His complaint for me most of the time was the high cost of aviation fuel. Now, when they did this for the, the cost of aviation fuel in Nigeria is the highest in the whole of the West Africa region and one of the highest throughout the whole of Africa. So it isn't a thing that began to pay in. The cost is not perfect. And when the ratio of fuel is that expensive, cost of maintaining aircraft too, because we don't have any aircraft maintenance aircraft in Nigeria, we also be very expensive. I think the only one that exists is in Ethiopia and I think maybe South Africa. So what is the cost of all this? Our inability to refine petroleum products in Nigeria. If we have the finalists that are functional, they will refine petroleum products, not just for aviation, but also for automobiles and some of these other and zilaline machinery areas. But we'll be unable to do that. The second one is that our allies are one of the most toxic people that we can never think about. When they import this aviation fuel, rather than make simple profits, they make profits in a compound manner. Amen. And sometimes they will not blame them because they import some of these things using foreign energy. And because they cannot get the foreign energy through the CBN, they go to the black market to buy. And when they get to the black market to buy, the cost of buying from the black market will be passed over. So the consumer, and that is why we are moving in this cycle of inability to have a very viable and effective aviation industry. Of course, it's also not for gas. What happened when the out of gas was probing the substance in the petroleum sector? There are some of our allies who import the two ship loads of the petroleum products and they will go to the MMPC and say it is 20 ship loads that they are imported. And then they will now be asking the government to pay them the subsidy for that 20 cargoes of fuel. So it's a fire of corruption and ineffectiveness in government. Of course, at the bottom, we need to break the cycle, what I call the cycle of poverty in Nigeria that we really require to break. And we are going to break it if you don't let the government that can guarantee that. Thank you so much. We have to go now and I wish we had more time to continue this conversation. It's quite unfortunate as learned as we are as a people. I mean, if you look at Nigeria, we constantly say that we're blessed with human resource and material resources and what a view. Very knowledgeable people, but it feels like our decision at the end of the day has kept us where we are. We constantly have elected persons or we have people who are running the affairs of the country. And the result is something contrary to who we are. And it just breaks my heart, you know, every other time. I mean, look at that. And so you look at how much we're spending on things, the cost of running governance. Look at the fact that we have the resources. Why are we not taking advantage of it? We have the brains. Why are we not paying attention to the things that matter? If we say that education is the bedrock of the nation, then why are we acting differently? Why is it different? I really don't know what will happen. Maybe we'll constantly pray and hope that there's a miracle and things change. I don't know when that would happen, but fingers across and we're hopeful. We'll stay right here on the breakfast, but we have to take a break now. When we return, we'll continue with more interesting conversations. Please stay with us.