 Go This is a lot of honor him Welcome everybody here and everybody that's a remote also to our town hall For those that don't know me remotely my name is pervins Koreshi. I'm on the board of trustees We have other board of trustee members here. Also is here. So deeply who I think most of you people know and Muhammad Ali in the back and also board of directors Explorer directors of honor your ex right x most of us here and Honey, Muhammad. I'm the last here also. So we're going to get started We're breaking sort of all the rules for presentations and timing and everything else. So we're doing this on the last day of a three-day weekend Nobody normally shows up on the last day of three-day weekend pretty good on a Monday And my slides are many and very wordy they're not picture-in-short, right? So they're breaking all the rules, but part of the reason is we didn't get the appraisal report till Saturday morning and The deadline is tomorrow for the due diligence. So we actually had no other time to do this But I'm hoping everybody can see it today or if they have questions watch it thereafter It'll be available so It's a town hall The purpose is actually not just a little more land status but also what are we doing with the outside construction because for many Months now we've been talking about it and people have been asking and actually sending notes Like you promised this where are you? What are you doing? Are you still doing it? Have you used all the money for something else? You know those sorts of questions So I want to answer all that plus we have some major changes in our construction. We're doing inside So we want to talk about that also and the timing and where we are and all of that plus other will just take q&a We've got a medley of people here that can answer many of the questions inshallah so I'm going to start with the on the if you look at the right-hand side that is the poster so to speak that we distributed everywhere as many places as we could and They talked about the land more specifically talked about long-term benefits That is to say what are the uses we have for this property, right? And then on the left side is the little matrix There's more internal matrix and that is what's the most important use for this? Why are we actually buying this and then what are the secondary benefits? Right in other words if we're going to spend nine million dollars We're not spending nine million dollars for a soccer football field. That is a benefit Right inshallah, that would be a benefit but that would not be the reason why you're buying it So why were why were we interested in this probably three sort of foundational reasons? One of course would be a cemetery because we've said this many times five pillars is going to run out of space Actually the next two years if they don't get an expansion and if they get an expansion around our space between 2035 or 2040 which seems like a long time away, but it's not that far away Right, it's been 13 years that we've been in this prop in this property. So the time comes and goes so one important years was cemetery or think of it as a backup cemetery or a think of it as a success a success a Successor to five pillars when they run out of space the other purposes were a full-time school K through 12 and Seen a living right those are sort of the important uses and then there were lots of other benefits that we listed And you can read them at the bottom You know how I'll meet production preschool farmhouse barn eat center eat event center soccer fields vegetable production Campgrounds that sort of stuff right and then we also had this idea in mind if you're going to have a senior housing You should have some medical offices, right? So that was the idea And you can see what a short-term what was long-term and we always said this was part of the Williamson Act and Whatever we do is going to take at least ten years Because you have to get out of the Williamson Act. There's a period that you have to wait for So that was going into it and the question now is what do we learn? Both from a land usage perspective and then I was talked about the endangered species perspective and also from an environmental Perspective what do we learn? Can we do all these things? We don't do all these things, right? So the first set of topics have to do with land usage The first bullet point is just the data. I think you already know You know we signed July 2014th the closed state was August 13th on the 12th We extended the close of the diligence date Which is tomorrow and the closed state is 9 12 because that's the new timing if you will and Then during the last couple of weeks a few weeks I should say we've had some concerns that I mentioned in some of the Friday after the Friday Chutmas Then we've had some concerns and we paid for some additional reports So think about this is when you buy a house you sign you sign all the papers You put a down payment and then you do your I gotta do an inspection. I gotta do this I gotta do this make sure everything's okay. So that's the process we're going through it's a little more detailed what is such a big property and The depth of what you have to go to is pretty You know much much more than you would in the house, right now recognize there is a house on this property also So the questions were and the areas we looked at is what are the permit permitted uses for what's called a 80? a means I recultural land 80 means it's in parcels minimum parcels of 80 Okay, there's some various Strict rules on what a 4 can be used for what a 20 can be used for and what a 80 can be used for And this is on the the Williams and act which I'll talk about a little bit more The second they had to do with our mental report. We did the phase one and that had to do with well There's supposed to be an all drum here. There isn't an all drum here. What happened to it, you know Is there leak helping a leak is it those sorts of things and then the third was biological constraints caused by endangered species Right, so we got the report on that and the last was their appraisal report so I'm quickly going to go through these just to give you a sense of the depth and we To say this correctly. I think we basically scratched the surface Right, but enough to say. Okay. This is what we should do so a to a 80 very explicit explicitly exclusive Agricultural district exclusive agricultural use Okay, and the purpose is to protect Areas for agricultural uses by preventing the establishment of urban and other incompatible things to agriculture Okay, so it is zoned as a 80 for that particular use Then so that's the first restriction the second restriction is it's the Williams and Act so in February 28 1971 The owners the previous owner sign an agreement that said for the next ten years This is going to be in the Williams and Act and we will not do anything other than agriculture or agriculture uses and in return Our taxes are going to be very low Okay, now the way that works is is ten years, but every year you add up they add a year automatically Okay, so it's all those ten years going forward so if we buy it now We have to keep it for ten years With no we're very limited sort of uses us It shows of what we want to do or we can pay them to cancel it Okay, now we have to go through a process the council is the automatic Right, they may say no then you go next year and they ask for cancellation again They may say no you go through you wait nuts and you wait another year and so forth The cancellation fee is twelve point five percent of whatever you pay for the land So it's one point two five million dollars roughly so that's so we can either wait ten years Right and go through a cancellation process. No fee or if we want to speed up things We can pay one point two five million dollars and try to get out of the Williamson Act earlier Right, is that clear? Those are those are two choices. Okay? Then as I said the contract that was signed for on February 28 1971 was specifically it says agriculture and compatible use Limited to food and fiber production Okay, this language Trump's any other language that is in the Williamson Act that is in the A80 or any other thing the county has Because that's what the contract says and it says very clearly we're limited to this usage only as long as you're in the Williamson Act Okay, that's all we can do with this, right? So Just wait a little bit till I get to the point I'm gonna I'm gonna cover the next set of issues around land usage and the next set and then we can bring it back together again So this is land designation land restrictions. Okay? Now this whole idea of a four versus a twenty versus a 80. Okay? Oh Agriculture is defined up top and so and everybody knows what agriculture is right farming use wholesale horticulture horticulture Dairy livestock plants sheds warehouses a farm stand farm dwelling and also a detached single-family house and Any structures you need for the farming you're doing that's all allowed right but if you go beyond that you need a permit and the permits for a 20 cover a lot of things the permits that are not allowed for a 80 I mean you cannot even ask for a permit. It's not allowed Right independent of Williamson Act Right whether whether you're part of the Williamson Act or not the a 80 rules apply so you cannot ask for a permit for a hospital you cannot ask for a permit for a A limo scenery which I looked up which means charitable just means charitable you cannot ask for a permit as a charitable is to be a charitable or fellow fellow anthropic institution or Covalent at home or an animal hospital You cannot even ask for that permit You cannot ask for a permit to be a church there or lose institution or a private school So K through 12 is just out Just because of that clause Because you can't even you cannot even ask for a permit independent of the Williamson Act These are just restrictions on a 80 period You cannot ask for a building for a club or Activities for something is half public half private for example if we want to say we're going to have a soccer game a soccer field all the time there not allowed We're going to have Camping all the time not allowed You can ask for a temporary permit like on this day. I want to do this You can ask for that But you cannot say look I want to have this as a campground is open, you know 50 50 we see here absolutely not Like by by law by by the zoning by the rules that go with a 80 and you cannot have medical offices or dental offices Right, so when you look at that you're saying, okay, I Can't have a if you go back to the important uses we said in the beginning one of them was Senior living well, that's not going to happen medical that's not going to happen K through 12 school that's not going to happen that leaves us cemetery Okay, in terms of potential uses Okay, now when I say it's not going to happen what I mean by that is zoned this way You can go to the county and ask for a zoning change That is a political battle Right, which means you have to know who the people are there you have to elect them You could have to have the votes to elect them you get to put the right people there You got to make sure that there's money in there when they're running for whatever office they're running for But it's it's that battle, right? It's not a Mushroom battle if you don't want to mean it's not our business But there is that there is that battle it has been won by many people if you look at a window mayor But think of window mayor was the top builders in the country They got the zoning changed and after many many years Okay, so you know where I'm going with this discussion, right Now the other question is can be used as a cemetery so we send this to the county planner and In black it was their answer But the key point is a cement is in red a cemetery is not compatible with uses permitted Okay now To be clear you can do a cemetery If it's not in the Williamson Act You can apply for one But you have to be out of the Williamson Act first So pay the 1.25 million dollars. I try to get out of it or wait ten years and Then try to get out of it, but there's no guarantee in other words what they will do is say yes Now we're gonna have a public hearing Right, we have a public hearing. We're gonna say without a mentalist say we're gonna see what our neighbors say We're gonna the blah blah then we're gonna decide whether to give it to you or not All right Now all I've talked about is usage. I haven't talked about well wait a minute Is there a an agent species after worry about if I do a cemetery? Right, so that's just step one can I get through the path and the answer is yeah You can but you have to wait ten years pay or pay a million bucks, right and get their permission Work with the with the planners and get their permission and they'll be public hearing you go if you go through all of those and get yes Yes, yes, yes, but then there's one more which we'll talk about here in a second So this I already spoke about right the reds are we can't do The orange is the cemetery which I'm still talking about and the greens are yeah, we can do the greens We can do a lot of food production Right we can do probably do an event center I only say that because the neighbor next door has an event center. So if they have it We can probably go through that process and get it. Also a vegetable production. Yeah, we can do probably get vegetable production, but the reds are Really really out unless you've we completely rezone this place The cemetery is still a question Preschool is there they say you can do it I have a sort of a question mark, but they say it's there. They said yes It's not really compatible with agricultural use So one person said yes that we talked to and the other person did not say anything about it, right? The point and the reason I put that in the other category You would have spent nine million dollars for a preschool just if it comes it comes But you wouldn't spend the money for that right you do something else Okay, so quickly about environmental reports So environmental report had this had to do with the possible all drum that was missing We spent money did a phase one They said now you should do a phase two, but the phase two you cannot do in the time frame that we had So the recommendation from the person that this was just asked for two and fifty thousand dollar reduction in the price That will more than cover the cost of this all drum Okay, so that's one sort of factor note The biological constraints There's a left side and the right side the rights. Let me talk about the right-hand side first So this is either federal or state Endangered or threatened or concerned species any of those categories Right the ones in red the bio guys said assume that's there is present Because this is present everywhere there in the neighbors and everything else just assume is present And we actually know the red like a frog is there. We know the salamander is there the orange ones are Your neighbors have it and maybe two miles away. Maybe next door. We don't think you have it, but it's a suitable habit habitat Habitat should I should say habitat. It's a suitable habitat Meaning this land or your neighbor's land generally has lip-snakes badges golden eagles very shrimps harriers Blackbirds shrimp and tail white tail kinds Right and then the other stuff is a low price low probability Right, so what's the process here? This is we just did the initial study the initial study was what might be there Would you do after this you do a detailed study? What is there? Then you so did you work with the architect saying okay? You want to do a Cemetery let's figure out where that cemetery is going to be exactly and let's figure out how much land that's going to occupy and let's figure out how much of these Endangered species land is going to be endangered either permanently or temporarily and based on that Then we want you to go to three organizations the United States Fish and Wildlife Service the California Nature Wildlife Service and the US Army Corps of Engineers and Negotiate how much you will pay because you are disturbing that habitat And you may permanently disturb that habitat Okay So just I mean we're much of them right we don't I don't know about you But I don't want to spend the next few years negotiating with the Corps of Engineers and they said every situation is different So it's an individual right, but they didn't give us an example of fees So development fee per acre is the two fees There's a mitigation fee and the development fee a development fee Per acres anywhere between eight and seventeen thousand dollars and the mitigation fee is anywhere between 64,000 146,000 dollars per acre. So we're going to develop 20 acres cemetery 20 acres right that's 20 acres is five thousand per acre So a hundred thousand people can be buried there roughly I did the math right You can see what that's going to cost Right. It's a it's a rather large Possible cost it's a negotiation. So you back back and forth and then If you end up saying I'm going to come I'm going to put a little bit of land in a Conservatory and not use it at all then there's a fee reduction, but we don't know what that is That's all about negotiation So I'm coming to conclusion. I think everybody knows what the conclusion is. Yeah. Oh Oh one more thing of the appraisal we just got the appraisal on Saturday It did come at eight point six six million. I shall know which is actually pretty good And in the appraisal they say the highest and best use of this land given the zoning is single-family residents and Do some sort of agriculture produce some agriculture make some money on that and put an ADU Those those are all things that are allowed and that will maximize the revenue you can get from here. Okay Forget that last slide. Okay So here's where we are Our recommendation the Board of Trustees is to not proceed with the purchase of this land because of the most the following reasons one You know, this is a large piece of property is a large investment Right people are in the land business know and you know, I do know when we bought Property and we bought the building we had actually six months to work with the seller To negotiate things and raise money and do all the due diligence In this case the sellers gave me a very short time Right, so if we want to go further deeper into what about this what about this if then else we just can't Finish all of our study this work of what I do. So that's one reason for saying let's pass The second reason is it's ten million. It's nine million dollars. It's not two million Right if we're two million, that's a small investment. The land is there the house is there. We're molded covered We're doing fine But if it's a nine million dollar investment and There's some additional cost of potentially with the Williamson Act or with the endangered species This gets more and more expensive Without a guarantee of a single one of your important uses That's just it's you know what I'm saying you have to thread the needle through all these holes just to get everything perfect and Where we are we just say doesn't sound like this is the right decision to make Okay, so now pause Yeah Teaching for a long time. Anyway, I'm blessed to be part of this community since early 90s Many of my you know brothers actually I know them again. I'm blessed to be part of this blessed community I've been with this, you know Mask and previous one time to time directly indirectly. So I think I had some questions but my questions got vanished kind of you know and Most probably you can read my mind even though I'm not a you know I'm not in a position to buy that kind of millions dollar Properties, but actually I have some involvement buying properties in land Certain areas my daughter is involved buying something with the salamander issues and all those things these are Nothing, but serious headache and I don't think and I'm talking about how one two million dollar thing where you are gonna Make your property the house. So as brother mentioned That some things you can do within your limitation, but I don't think MCC in a business to do Negotiate with the lawmakers and all that's that's not MCC. Okay, so that's what actually your conclusion is all Most like going what I my question was you already answered. So it is extremely complicated Especially the first one the cemetery issue, right? Even that one is not clear. This is orange Rather I rather want to say at this point actually there is a community actually Bengali community Actually, you might have heard this thing. We are already trying 160 acres land is almost in the finalist days. God help us. We need your Dua Everybody whoever is the Muslim they can be buried there. That's in near Santa Nala. That's not the reason I'm here, but it's a relevant thing. So that's barely a million okay, 160 acre and Of course, you saw Santa Nala is far away. Trust me these days nothing is far away from San Jose area people come here It's like one and a half hour distance in a traffic time. It's like about one and a half hour from here So so that is already we are going through the environmental impact report. They call it EIR It's kind of final, but it's still not final. You see and that was like Almost like hundred percent confirmed that we are gonna so even that one has so many problems We are going through so may Allah help us guide us to get better opportunity in future and I absolutely from my shallow experience and I've been a scientist for a very long time from my research experience that it could be actually a Very good idea of what you ended up with the conclusion That's that's all actually my question was different, but everything boils down to the similar conclusion. Thank you. Salaamu alaikum Any other questions on the land? I want to talk about what we're doing construction shift gears here in a second, but it will take questions on the land Yeah, okay, so you said that Yes, okay, so if you do nothing and wait for ten years No, no, what you have to do right away. You have to say I'm going to cancel and It goes before some committee and they say yes or no If they say yes, then you wait ten years and then you're out if they say no You wait another year apply again to cancel You go through that process If your cancer is not guaranteed It's not guaranteed. I think there's a high probability, but there's no guarantee Right, there's a process you have to go through Detailed presentation. Thank you We said if you're out of Williams and act with a 80 there's so many restrictions there That doesn't allow us to do so many things that we wanted That leaves us with something called cemetery Yes, it's as one big thing that we wanted to do everything else is just basically, you know meat production or vegetable or even center is was not like a You know at the highest in our list of priorities, so With just cemetery even Considering that also 400 acres was perhaps not even Why even bother at that time also, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's why we've come. Yeah, so I think that's That Yeah, I agree with that, you know recommendations. Yeah, thank you Okay, I want to keep now, please And the city population in is to grow You Disappear changes up in the way city to look at patients, okay So just because of the Mike thing the question was You know, we have limited land in the Bay Area because of the because of the Geographical Settings and therefore as population grows Do we anticipate that the zoning may change? So, I mean in the long run the answer is yes Right by the long run, you know, we live 70 years 80 years, whatever it is, and we all die And I don't I don't mean that we just sleep I actually do mean that how long do we want to wait, right? The the areas that are closer to Danville if you're closer to a city, right? Then you see You could you could annex Goes on but if you're further away is less this is less likely Unfortunately, this is in Contra Costa County. So this is further away from the key city areas there it's not far from Costco and everything else and all the development Las Positas and the housing behind Las Positas, but that's for a different County Right, so if that were if we're if we're in Alameda County that would say higher probability You can say it's a lot of construction going on told not too far away but this is pretty far away and There is a restriction Alameda Contra Costa County has they want 65% of the land urban they want 35% rural So to change that which is really what you'd have to change to change that Requires, you know significant Problems called caused by lack of land Okay, we're going to keep going. We'd still have a what time what time what are we doing on timing? Okay, good, so You know, I think at how much money we have to collect it either in because it has now or in Donations So just to let you know right off the bat all MCC supporters who've given us either a donation Or because it has now which is an interest-free loan. They have an option of getting it back 100% Okay Now why do I say an option? Right Well, the next set talks about that. Okay, so let's keep moving I'm going to skip this a little bit. This has the more to do with our vision There are many ways of putting it on paper. This is one way And I don't think we've completely agreed to the best way So we can we can skip this or if you want to come back to it, we'll come back to it But I do want to talk about what are we actually doing? Okay, and this was made About the left side has been done a while ago, but the right-hand side was done after we got the land This is a way of thinking about what are we actually doing now? Okay So our priority one in terms of day-to-day right now is your first item on the top of the left Which is outside Recreational activities basketball slash picnic area, etc. Etc. That's a part. That's a top priority Okay, that by the way has been the top priority and has not changed because of the land stuff Right we have separate money put aside for some of this or for all of this Now where we are on that? Unfortunately. I have a very terrible diagram, which is this We are going back and forth. This has been submitted to the Hussein the housing Hussein the housing Association owners association Hussein owners association in Jim Paxton and We're going back and forth with questions and answers at a very detail level Right detail of that's to do what color is this stone going to be? Detail that detail has to do with telling me the name of every bush and tree you're gonna have here detail has to be with for example, we spend a week arguing with him you wanted the basketball court that's shown over there Taking the place of the empty land and the empty land being on the other side And we said no, this is where the kids smaller kids are going to play and we would that contain you We don't want that at the edge of the property Right, but that was a week of back back and forth back and forth back and forth argue any finally Valentin now He's arguing we wanted a big fence on one side of the basketball courts with a basketball course Don't go the ball is something to go over. He goes. No the max fence. You're gonna have a six-feet high We're saying that doesn't work Because the ball will just go over six feet. I just start good enough So now I was like, okay now we're arguing about the net and the color of the net and the height of the net By the way, this is just the this is just the housing I keep saying housing Hussein the owners Association right after this it goes to the city The good news is if it gets through James Paxton He told it usually gets to the city Right because he's the one that has the the caring for that for what goes on here the issue They have by the way the owners Association has is they still think of this as an office park and We say that's wonderful But we're not an office where a mushroom and we have our uses and there are other schools here close by and They have their uses so you have to think about this more broadly James Right So that that's the perspective. I don't say one is right or wrong, but that's different perspectives. Okay now If you look at this there there are by the way 25 by five of the right number EV Stations they're not going to be type three because we don't have the electric generation literally here To support 25 EVs going going on simultaneously. I think they're gonna type one on type two. I think they're type two They're here the number of parking slots is I think minus one So that's the only big we put all this in place and Parking slots only gone down to one there are more narrow parking spots Some of them are more narrow and some of them are the same size So there's some pluses and minuses there The picnic area is complete complete getting redone and the area that I'm going to point to here For those that are here and anybody that's showing for this area right here is If you could see that that area which is where the so the You know when the ladies come in there's that overhang area outside actually straight straight here, right? Think of it where the garage door used to be We're going to have a cafe there inside and outside and very much meant to be a third space Right, so both inside and outside on one side of picnic area on the other side So that's all going through this will we don't have an exact cost But this will cost a lot more than we thought Largely because they're making us change all sorts of things that we had really not planned to change But I suspect this will be in the half million dollar range We're all set and done with it, right? This is even though we have 9,000 square feet of flooring has been delivered to us free right from our friends and talco and San Jose this is a Turkish company. I go there. He goes just take whatever you want. No charge All right, so So this is I know there's a lot of questions. Is this going to happen. The answer is yes. We're working on it my hope is we can get through all of the Permit process and everything else this calendar year and actually start Construction early next year, but it's going to depend on what what the city already has in in cycle And how quickly they can respond to us Okay, and for those of you in construction, I know this is taking a long time But for any of you in construction, you know, this is how it is and it is very very hard to get construction people right now. They just Not available Right or they say they're available. They don't show up. It's it's just not as easy as it would like it like it to be So that's one thing that's going on the pictures get worse by the way. This was actually a pretty good picture Let's go back to here So that's the outside record. This is the stuff of the greed on the left-hand side That's the outside recreational activity basketball picnic, etc We are doing a bank at all. We are doing kitchen. We are doing cafe. We are doing a lobby You are doing library use centers additional conference rooms Here's the new you new news. We are also doing a second story inshallah For the school So we want the Sunday school to be upstairs Not above here not above the musket not above this conference room But all that back area where the Sunday school is today will be upstairs There'll be 25 classrooms upstairs at a staircase at your two staircases Coming in and an elevator Okay, so yes, we gained a lot of room But we lost a little room because you have two staircases that have an elevator you have to build also Just to show you that it exists. I know this is impossible to read but the The hashed area is the roof light Right, so if you look outside you see these tiles That's the hashed area all around and the only place that is the Second story is where all these classrooms are and they're 25 classrooms there The top part if you look at the top part I'm going to point to this here This is an outside staircase This is an outside staircase and there's an elevator once you get inside That's the design This has not gone through this the this is a separate submission to the hacienda Otis Association We're doing the outside first and this submission after afterwards But the other thing now that we do this is a very hard drawing and I'll just describe it versus The nomenclature the names are not here now that we are going to say Upstairs is Sunday school. What are we going to do with all this area here? Right good question So the multiple things we're going to do first of all we're going to have another room about half of this size So that when this room is being occupied because we have all sorts of You know talks going on there's one more room We're going to have about half of this size for talks like this Okay, so that's one one usage the other thing you're going to see and it's it's hard to see but it's Yeah, you can see it in here, but it's a little hard if you look at If you look at two areas here and for those of you that can't see it on that side look at this area here This is next to the bathrooms Okay, this is a men's lounge and gym area. So the idea is Youth can have a ping-mong table billiards table TVs for games or whatever and also Some parts of a gym So just a lounge hangout area at the same time on this side of the other bathrooms, which is right behind us There's a women's area. There's a lounge Area to hang out and some gym equipment also Okay next to the women's area we will to put the parent ignore this drawing we will put the parents child room and Would also have a kiddie area with kiddies kiddies meanings small kids that are with parents And then a separate area for kids are a little bit older, but they don't need to be with parents notice what I'm saying This part of the machine is Women's parents kids This part of the night we're separating the men's lounge area from the women's lounge area There are two parts of the motion one is there and one is here on purpose Okay And then I won't go through this in detail. We do have a multi-purpose room. We have a library This is the entry to all of this and all of this is 357 I think seats for a banquet hall and then this area is an industrial kitchen and this area outside here is a cafe so This drawing is probably on its last legs this one and the San Francisco And then we'll submit that probably the next month and a half two months Now I'm almost coming to an end. Let me just go back to this slide so What you should see by the end of next year inshallah Maybe maybe a little bit of 2025 is the outside recreational area of banquet hall the lobby the library the youth conference the centers of gym second-story School and also The this is the important part the second story school The second story school is being designed so that the Sunday school rooms can be used both as a Sunday school room And also a weekday classroom Literally what that means is you take what's you know every school designs the walls of all these papers and stuff on the walls Right the idea is you could just flip flip the board and now you have Third grade put the board and you have first grade Sunday school right So what that means is when do we get this done with it will have to facility to have K through 5 Okay, the reason that's important is that has always been part of our mission statement If you go back to and say here is here and mama daddy is here MCC was founded of three things. We want to have a worship area We want to have a social area, which is a kind of a banquet hall and we want to have a Education K through 5 Okay, so That doesn't mean we're ready next year for K through 5. That just means we have a facility There's a whole other process of where you go the teachers. What's the curriculum going to be? I guess MCC gonna do it or we're gonna work with somebody else to do it all those questions are open But we want to make sure we have the facility the second thing up top if you I mean the middle portion of this is We are worker in five pillars a cemetery to see we can have a partnership with them So we'll see where that goes and We should start thinking about renting if we're gonna have a K through 5 here We should start thinking about how do how do we do a 6 to 12? Right, and it won't be in this facility But we can rent something or buy something if we're not gonna buy 9 million dollars worth of land Let's go buy something else that makes sense for us to do and and everybody knows the school demand is Incredibly high now because of everything that's being taught and nobody wants to send kids to public school here And I forgot to mention the last point on the left-hand side is you know, we need a Friday prayer place Right so right now we have Dublin library. How long that's going to continue. We don't know so we need to continue looking and either rent a Second site or buy a second site or whatever comes and makes sense to do Okay I'm gonna pause. Yeah, I mean that the permits I'll repeat the questions for the short-term part of this road map 20 23 20 24 Assuming that the permits part can be done by the end of this year Do we anticipate the construction to be completed through 2024? I well, that's a good question I think it'll come in faces. So first of all, we need we'll need more money to even do the outside stuff completely Because we raised $300,000 for that not last year the year before of which $100,000 went for all sorts of things including the HVAC When we talked about this HVAC units Some of the parking stuff we did and there were some other things we had to do also So we had $200,000 also allocated that's still being held for that will probably cost closer to 500 The second story will probably cost a million and a half Okay, so we need to raise the money So this year we really want to show Our initial plan was make sure you can show some progress on the outside stuff and then go to the community for money Right because you got to prove you doing what you can do and you know get trust We may have to go a little half-and-half and What we're asking for for those people that don't need the money That's a bad way of saying it for those people that can spare the money and donate it to MCC and Shift your money that was going to The land not cause has the actual donations or because I start turned in donations We would like to do that, but there's no pressure on that You need the money back you need the money back a lot, right? No pressure on that Yes, the question behind you Yeah, no, it's a good question. I was hoping not to answer that question actually Yeah, the question was expand on the partnership with five pillars Back in March March of this past year No in terms of when they shut down They shut down in March of this past year. There was an issue with their permit. Let's just say that They came to us and we've been working with them. Okay, we just haven't come to an agreement that we both sides are comfortable with yet but we'd like to come to an agreement where we're eating there's some sort of partnership and There's a lot we want to do with it Right if we can get it the only reason we would the only purpose the reason the only Situation in which we would get it in addition to their okay Would be if there's expansion If if we could actually get the right now the only five acres being used and they were they the permit expires this October And then they have to apply for expansion and then another 12 acres available to expand If that happens then we very much want to be involved because we want to take The operation up significantly you want to improve the place we want to put a place to pray we want to put you know Place we can store the body we want to be able to have a Janaza prayer there There's a lot of things you want to do and they're very open to it We just have to figure out can we you know is the county going to give us the extension and what is our relationship going to be with So I'll have no love. We'll see where that goes. Yeah question Just hold it close. It's my opinion not the question as a father of two I think the most important two things to me right now the Education direction for the teach in our kid in the school. This is the next generation. How I please probably Second priority the thing is that how my children will grow up. There is a thing. I'm going to How I'm going to We can anywhere. So if I put my priorities that is that the K 12 to K 5 to get the most priority And the youth education how we grew up because the body probably make me give me the priority It can be my third priority. Yeah, so if you make constant means priorities on the K 12 for the next generation It will be I think this is the most important thing to our life Thank you. Yeah, we did a survey right of the survey we did Times may have changed the survey did about a year ago was the outside basketball was like the highest priority of all the items That is not to say the K through 12 is not important This is a shazia No, no, you need to use it Okay, my question what about doing the whistle area here Getting the whistle area here Was First of all, we don't have space right space is a real problem and to If we get that if we're able to get a partnership will inshallah put it there And if by the jails follow-up question Or comment. I think the big you know based on you know going through your short term plan explanation and What we need to get done? During the short term it seems that it would go easily into 2025 So I think you you probably want perhaps, you know Beyond probably right so what I would do is merge short-term strategy intermediate term. Yeah, that's one column And that'll take care of it. Thank you. Thanks. And for everybody is this thing forget 24 make sure that's 25 Asalaikum, I just want to mention for for those people who would like to get their You know money back Yes, I know so some of you may be thinking, okay, how do we get our money back so What you have to do is send an email to finance at MCC East Bay Org and we will set up our time to meet with you at the finance office and If you've given her say has now and you want that back then please bring the promissory note that we provided and Insha'Allah We will give you a check so you do need to make an appointment and You know meet with either me or brother Samir who's a treasurer and Insha'Allah will make arrangements to Return your funds and yeah, I think the point is none of those funds have been used Yeah, absolutely there they're in a separate account and Will be happy to return the funds to whoever requests it Exactly Returning the funds as of course One of the options, but what about using the money to buy another property? Sure, it's always Sure, but we don't know when we're going to buy the property at what time so I don't think We don't want to be in the business of holding people's money without knowing whether property is now or six months from now or two years from now right What we would like to do though is use that money for two things that are going to be important one is The K through five this the school Right, I said said that's gonna cost a million and a half that's sort of rough numbers right now and the shortage we're gonna have on the Outside stuff and I haven't even talked about the banquet hall the kitchen and all those things that those all cost money, right? our initial thought was The inside stuff when we were not doing the school was the inside stuff Will cost about a million and outside stuff will cost 200,000 we're at 1.2 million now It looks like the outside cost will cost 500 K The school will cost one and a half so that's two million and probably three quarters of a million for half a million for everything else So it's about two and a half it's about a two and a half million dollar rough rough cost phased over between now and 24 and 25 But I don't lie. I think as we show progress the community has always been willing to give right as we're willing to give and You know we want to do we want to be very careful how we use the money and say hi Who's head of the construction committee is very good about how he uses the money? And then we're also careful about You know we try to get as much stuff free as we can But I mean good stuff. I don't mean like bad stuff right good stuff free as we can So that's the second thing and then the third is we want to do something that actually looks good too right and by that I mean You know there's there's always been beauty in our religion So you don't want to do something that yeah, we did we did it quickly, but it was cheap It looks cheap Right because we want people coming here saying it is a nice place right so That's that's where we are we'll probably do a fundraiser We have to we have to decide as a board probably do a fundraiser later on this year Once we have everything a little bit tight tight down a little bit more so we can go to everybody and say this is what we need Yes So the money which is already there, right? I mean which is collected for the land which is long-term, right? So if we now we I had that it there's an option to return back to people who wants to write Yes, so we can give that option right that okay. We haven't shot them an intermediate plan So are you okay to use that money? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's our request. Yeah, that's why that's very like we can Reutilize the money because anyway, we are looking for the funds, right? So the money is there All right, we can use that and then if if inshallah something comes up long-term Then we can go for a fundraiser say if I get his name, please They bring yeah That's I'm joking everybody are joking Alhamdulillah Yes, we'll take a one last comment Because then we should what time is prayers 9 15 or what time is 9 30, okay. I have the same question the same opinion. So for the intermediate One so if I for example, if you have the money that people donate How what is the plan for example if my preference is to go for like K5 is my preference for example if I want to Transfer that to the K5 or whatever we did How can you do that? It's it's very difficult to put us in a situation to say this money is for this this money is for this This money's for that intermediate plan. Yeah, the the sequence is gonna be the outside stuff Okay, the school and then the other inside stuff. That's the sequence Okay, because one is ahead of the other and you don't want to slow it down to get to do this, right? so that's that's the sequence and Right now we have to talk as a board, but I don't think we want to do Kersi hasla for Construction at least that's our thinking right now So anybody is wants to convert Kersi hasla will do that or anybody's given a donation and wants to use the donation From land to project Will say buys are gonna say that to everybody. Hey, we'll take your money back. Give your money back completely I'm about for them Or if you want to donate here your choices There's a email from Joe everybody or anybody. This is our transfer or what? How can you proceed for that one? You have to talk to him. Okay And it's final thing that yes When you go like free I normally some time from my work. I go to like Fremont Mosque or la MCA So I saw the mosque inside like to their beautiful like is it there's a plan to improve the wall of them our prayer hall and So the prayer hall of the first of all the ceiling is gonna go up two feet and Then there's gonna be rotunda as you're gonna go up another two feet. Okay with skylights and Then There's gonna be design. We haven't we haven't done the design. It'll be designed not that different than what you see out There they'll be designed inside the machine also How do we turn this stuff off now, okay, thank you