 You watch all my videos, and you're not a vegan. You're not the one who's urgently, desperately, you know, pleading for their life. Hey, brother, hey, going? Come on, if I get a picture. Nice, you can, mate. Thank you, man. I'll watch all your videos. You do, eh? I do, yeah. Cheers, man. It's good to see you, man. You're a vegan. You watch all my videos, and you're not a vegan. I'm not, no. The consolation. I have animals. I love animals. But I struggle to eat as it is. I'm not even a liar. In general, there's not a lot I eat. I can't put it away. What do you usually eat? What animal product is an obstacle? Chickens, birds. You could be eating birds from, you know, these egg layers. They, when they've exploited them to the point of, like, they can't get any more eggs out of them, they just gas them, and then they mince them up for processed chicken. You know, there's a vegan option in Burger King called the vegan royal, chicken royal. You haven't tried it? Why not? I don't really eat birds. I don't really, I don't really go out and eat, like McDonald's and KFC, like if I'm eating it, it would just say I'll buy a chicken and cook it. You'll buy like, breast of a bird, and then you'll cook that bird? Yeah. There's nothing I can say. You don't think about that bird, eh? I know, I know. I thought I was one big bird. Would you kill the bird? No, never. Would you torture the bird? No, never. You basically are, though. I know, but like you say, you just disconnect. Yeah. But you know, man. You're not like one of these innocent bystanders. You know that you're torturing the bird, so you're buying the bird knowing you're torturing the bird. I know, I know. I just, I am gonna try it. It's difficult. You have to tell me, bro. It's the animals that you're harming. I honestly can't believe it, but even I do, it's just, I don't know, I just have to describe it, it's really not good at giving up things. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Well, I gave up drugs, meth and heroin and alcohol. You know what I mean? But it was because they were ruining my life. But like, see with veganism, it's like you're doing it for others. So you're not really the victim here. Like you're not the one who's urgently, desperately, you know, pleading for their life. The animals are. So, you know, it's easy from our position, just go, I know who cares. Like, it's not affecting me. Like, I know. So I was a bit in too much coming over, so I know how you feel about it. I do, I really do that when you sound full, man. Yeah. I'm probably that little voice in your head anyway, man. That you already know. No, I know, I know. Yeah. It's just great to see you, man. It's good to. I appreciate you coming up, but of course I'm going to give you the. I know, I know, but thank you. Let me give you this. If you ever do decide, here's a little, little guide for you. It's got, you've probably seen these documentaries. This is how you can eat vegan at these, you know, vegan chicken's really good now. You can get vegan chicken from the supermarket. This is crazy, dude. You see like the vegan bacon in here? Anything, all right. Wait, it should. If you go on. Don't look like a chopped up body, you mean? No, no, I do this. Yeah. I do this. Don't look like a corpse. No, no, it looks like Play-Doh. Yeah, yeah. But you should give it. This isn't bacon's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I'll try that one. That's pretty good. There's a bunch of goods. Like, I don't think you should give them a triber, are you? No, I definitely won't. I mean, I. I've seen you in person. It's a bit a lot different to see you in person. You're very well known. She met Anne-Marie, though. I've seen you. She's probably my Anne-Marie. Ah, what is it? Who's Anne-Marie? Is that some type of famous person? I guess not. Yeah, some type of singer or something. OK, cool. All right. Well, that was great to see you, honestly. And what about you? Wait a second. Are you a vegan? Are you a vegan? No, but I've already thought about it. You care about what happens to the animals? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was in this facility. This is an enriched cage facility where 36% of the eggs in the UK come from. And I've been in a free range place as well, which are free ranges pretty horrible too. They all get gassed when they don't lay eggs. They're in the dairy industry. Horrible industry. Do you know much about dairy? No, but I have... Do you know what you'd know about dairy? Dairy. They forcefully impregnate them, then they take their kids away from them? I don't know. I don't know how they can legally do that. Honestly, we, as people, go and buy it. You're just paying them, dude. I know, I know. It's like me saying, oh, I wish this hit man would stop killing people. I pay for him to kill. I know. You know what I mean? There's no argument. I'm not even going to try it. There's everything you say, and you're like, what? I get it. It should be illegal, but it shouldn't take it to be illegal for you not to act morally, because one day you're going to have to answer to... If I was to go see this, I would stop eating it. I know I would, because it's real there. But even though it's on picture, like, there's still no... It smells like death in there, dude. Rotting animals, feces. You can hear all the birds going crazy, because they go insane in there. They cage, there's all these different voices, like... But I've seen the humane farms, the farms where they've got a little bit more space, but then they go to the same slaughterhouse to be gassed or shot in the head or stabbed to death, you know? It's horrible cruelty. So it's horrible cruelty. You're good people, paying for horrible cruelty. That's why I like our talk to the good people, because there's no point in me talking to people who don't care. They just walk past. I don't even know what you're doing. I mean, you must get into the right confrontations. Sometimes. I've seen some of them, but... Yeah. I like it. I was just telling stuff you might not point. I like the confrontations, you know, because they're actually fighting for the cruelty to keep going, and I'm actually trying to stop it. That's what I mean, you know? 100% cruelty. Yeah. So it's just, I've got to stop it. It just takes, you know, all it takes is a decision. It's just what decision that you make. And once you make that decision, it's a lot easier. Because now you're in limbo. My permission to go see this, because I thought they wouldn't want you seeing it. Of course they don't want me to be in an enriched cage facility. They don't want me to be in a pig farm. Just waltz on in. You know, the reason I go in there when the farmer doesn't know is because they're going to clean it up. They wouldn't even let this in there. If you could ask any farmer, could I come into your cage? Massive three, this place was three stories higher. There's birds on every single level. There's dead birds all in there. They're not going to let just the public go in there. Public going to be like crying. Look at this bird here. Rotten. But these places are supposed to be food processing facilities. There's dead animals, feces everywhere, blood everywhere, horrible, horrible places. And it's a food manufacturing facility. It's like, how can people eat out of that? Yeah. That's what I mean is, I really do disconnect, honestly, I know I do. Yeah. I know if I stopped eating, I would stop eating completely. I am terrible at eating, generally. Maybe if you find some of the good vegan chicken replacements, because there are some good ones, man. And it just depends on what your taste preferences are. Like, I found some really good chicken replacements. And they're like, it's just like a... What would you say the best is? I really like, personally, I like oomph. I think oomph is good. This isn't chicken. So if you... It's called this. Big capital letters, this isn't chicken. And it's like chicken pieces. They also got a good bacon. This isn't bacon. There's some good frozen ones as well. Just go into the vegan-vegetarian section, bro. And a lot of them are good. I would get a couple and be like, and try them out. You know, you might find one that you really like. Man, I wouldn't want to eat the dead-tortured bodies of little birds, that's for sure. I'd love to be your sister. Yeah, you can. You can easily be. Look, you're very dedicated. I've seen it. Like, people would do, like, they might say this. Like, for instance, people would start giving up smoking. They'd go back and say, like, how do you know when to stop? I'll just keep the animals in my mind, man. Like, now that I see a dead bird, like, chicken breasts, all I see is, like, what they went through that little bird's face and getting their head cut off. Like, I don't walk through a butcher. Like, I've been in a slaughterhouse. It smells like a butcher. So I've been inside a slaughterhouse, watched animals be killed. And then when I walk past a butcher, I'm reminded of that same smell. Yeah. Because I don't want to say that they're just foxes. I don't want to say that they're just sick. I hate it. See, they're only dead animals. I don't want to get in a hurry. I just hate it. It's just that medically packaged, like, pristine little white breast. You don't see the bird, like, these birds are overgrown. They're limping because they're, like, the weight of them. They're too big to support their own body weight. They're just horrible. Like, they're killed at six weeks old, which they're still little chicks, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Horrible, then. Like, anyways, yeah, if I was gonna stop eating any animal would be chickens and fish. Like, they suffer the most because it's just pure numbers. Yeah. And when you eat, like, a couple of breasts, you're eating a whole animal. That's a whole life. I mean, if I am gonna eat a chicken, I don't even like to cut it in the back because it just... That's a cool thing. It don't feel right. If only once it's cooked it looks like food. Yeah, and you put some stuff on there and that. But that's what I mean. You can do that with vegan chicken very easily. Yeah. Milk's easy though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eggs are easy. You scramble tofu instead. Yeah. Cheese. Oatmeal. All right, guys. Take care. That was good talking. You knew that was gonna happen, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I've been doing vegan for like three and a half years. Really? Yeah, 100%. My videos made you vegan? Yeah, 100%. Three and a half years ago. Do you remember which video it was or just a bunch of them? It was one where you were talking about your journey through drugs and stuff and then when you went to like an abattoir and then you were doing like a reflection video. Yeah, but no, honestly, like, yeah, I send your videos to, like, say to my friends. Amazing. I was just walking through London, I was like, oh, it's Joey. Oh my God. I work in government now and I'll do what I can. Good work. I'll probably be in, like, death for next year. Oh, wow, changing laws. Hopefully. Yeah, I'll try it. It's a farmers' union. Yeah. They want to see all the power to you. Hopefully you change them vegan. Wow, we're just about to sign off and, like, standing in London, like, people just walk past them. A lot of people recognize me, which is fantastic. England is very connected to animal rights activists like myself. It's because of social media, because of TV. You know, people are stopping. Hey, brother, how you going, mate? Oh, no, I was just showing people a cage facility I was in the other night. What is it? I've turned off now, but I was just showing people some of the farms I've been into, like the pig farms, chicken farms, egg facilities and that. Yeah. Just trying to get people to, like, stop paying for them to happen, yeah? For these places to exist, when are you going to change?