 I'd like to welcome everyone to the paraprofessional section 2016 screen meeting. Our theme is the future. If you don't know me, I'm Sarah Nelson, the paraprofessional section chair. To every single one of you attending this meeting, thank you. We are so glad you're here. If you're not a member of APERAS, we'd love it if you'd consider becoming a member. But if you can't, we're so grateful that you've decided to join us today. We have 50 attendees who are scattered all over the state of Nebraska, from places such as Seward, Norfolk, Sydney, Hastings, and Lincoln. And we have a few attending at their desk. We're all here because of our passion for library work. I'd also like to thank Christine Woods. She's leading them back in for all of her hard work setting up this spring meeting. Thank you, Christine. If you're watching with multiple people on the same computer, would you please type everyone's names into the chat box so that we can make sure that everyone gets their CE credits? We've got three great sessions today, so I hope you all enjoy it, and that you learn something you can use on the job. There will be five to ten minute break between speakers. And now starting off our program is Michael Sowers, Director of Technology at Ducey. The session is called Ducey, a one of a kind concept. All right. Thank you very much for that wonderful introduction, and thank you for all the attendees. And it's so nice to be able to catch up with some folks I haven't seen in a while. So as some of you know, I used to be with the Nebraska Library Commission. And as of just about a year ago, I left the opposition and left training as something I've been doing for the last 20 years to kind of take everything I learned and more or less pull my money where my mouth is, and instead of spending my life telling people how they should be running their libraries and their computers, I decided that I wanted to participate in this thing called Ducepace. So from a visual perspective, basically what I want to do is I'm just going to kind of run a slideshow here of stuff that has gone on in Ducepace and things that are happening there. And then I'm just going to kind of talk about Ducepace, maybe mention specifics if a particular slide is up, but talk about what this project is, what we do there, what is the mission behind this, and then open it up for questions. Because as we learned very quickly over the last couple of months that we've been open, and even before that, everybody has lots of questions about what this thing called Ducepace is. So first kind of the why of Ducepace and a little bit of the history. The concept itself started with Gary Bosden, the former director of OPL. And when he came into Omaha, he started asking himself and other people what might possibly be the future of the library. He didn't necessarily have an answer, he was just trying to figure out what that might be. So he hooked up with, oh, my name is Sue Morris, who's the president of Heritage Services. Heritage Services is a philanthropic, nonprofit organization that raises money for community beneficial projects in Omaha. They raise money for the Durham Museum, they raise money for the New Hockey Arena on campus. They've been around for decades. And they're an organization I've never heard of before, and I found in Omaha, you've either heard of them or you haven't, they're just there and available. And so Sue and Gary started traveling around the country looking at what other libraries were doing that were different. They looked at what we might call digital libraries, they looked at maker spaces, they looked at co-working spaces, and they said, well, we need to do something like this in Omaha. And so Heritage Services did the fundraising. They bought the former borders building at 72nd and Dodge in Omaha. It is the single busiest intersection in the state. There is something like nine lanes of traffic in each of the two major directions. It's a transit hub, and if not geographically, it's at least considered kind of the center of Omaha. If you break Omaha, obviously, kind of north, south, east and west. They guided it. If you haven't been there, if you remember it as a border, the only thing that was standing once construction got in there was the stairs in the elevator. Everything else was taken down to the studs, and some of the studs were removed. And construction went on for about a year. I was hired in May of last year. So we have Rebecca Stamick, our executive director, and then there's me as director of technology and director of community learning and an operations manager. The team was kind of built last summer, and we spent the summer in temporary offices by Whole Foods on Dodge Street. And my desk for the summer was in a hallway next to the printers. This was when I say temporary office space, I'm not kidding. And we kind of planned what this was going to be. The technology was kind of already packed, but we had to decide how to implement it. We just had to decide how to circulate it. We had to decide how people could use it. We had to decide how many staff we were going to have. We had to pledge it. Things I had never done before. To say my life has changed in the last year would be an understatement. And so ultimately, one of the things I kept saying all summer, which has turned out to be very true, is that we spent all summer planning this space. Then I said we're going to open the doors and actually let the public in. Then we're really going to find out how this plays around. Because we can make a lot of assumptions about what people want to do with this technology. It is very much modeled on the library, how libraries work, how public libraries work, library ethos, privacy, security, all of that stuff. But then we're just going to let everybody in. Because what we're trying to answer, other than maybe what is the future of libraries, what we're trying to answer is what happens to a community when you offer this level of access and technology for free. So as we are a privately funded nonprofit that runs us called Community Information Trust, Do Space is the only one in existence. There are some things other places do that are things we do that are sort of similar to other places, but nobody quite does it like we do. So access and education are kind of our two larger goals. You can kind of think of me as the head of technology, as the access part of it, and then our directive community learning is the access end of it. So I'm a little better at talking about the technology, but I'll definitely talk about the education too. We are open 9 a.m. and 9 p.m. 7 days a week. We are only closed for six holidays a year. Membership is completely free. In fact, there's a stack of membership cards up here on the desk. You are welcome to grab one of those, so you can sign up for membership right online. You need to register your card online if you do that or come on in. Because we are privately funded, we're not restricted to a taxpayer base for a community member. So if you are visiting from out of town and you want to come in and use Do Space, come on in and get your membership, take five minutes tops, and you'll be good to go. We have, so now kind of doing the non-visual tour of the space, we have 56 public access computers, ranging from about 60-40 split between Macs and PCs, PCs being the 40. On the PC side of things, we have touchscreen PCs, we have accessible PCs with additional hardware and software on them for people with disabilities. We have kind of low-end, medium-end and high-end PCs. Some of those high-end PCs are dual-screen setups. I'll get back to the software in a moment. On the Macs, we have both iMacs and Mac minis. If you are a Mac person and want to get your hands on a 5K 27-inch iMac, we've got a couple of those floating around that you can play with on that. On those Macs and PCs, we have software ranging from Office to the fully W Creative Suite to AutoCAD and other 3D design software. We are constantly having people request of us other software that we might install. That's part of my job is deciding what are we going to install. Is it free? Do we have pay for it? One of the licensing restrictions, things like that. All those machines are set up for an hour of use at a time. We have software control logging in with the motion part. At this point, the reservation system will give you an hour. If there's enough time, you can get an additional hour. It's kind of standard. Most libraries have something like this. On top of that, we have MacBook Airs that you can check out in the space. We have Dell laptops. Windows laptops you can check out in the space. We have Chromebooks you can check out in the space. We have iPad Airs you can check out. And then we also have 80 Kindle Fire HDs that you can also check out in the space. That's just kind of the simple you need a computer. We have a full gigabit Ethernet fiber connection into the building and open Wi-Fi. This, by the way, is all just on the first floor. We'll talk about it in a second for a minute. That's Metro Community College upstairs. We have what we call Tech Kits. Some of these things you're seeing, the makey makey that's on the screen right now. We have Tech Kits that we put together, which are kits of different pieces of technology. And these plastic bins you can see on the picture right now, that kids and adults can check out in the space. So we have makey makeys and we have different robots. I think that kid's making a Play-Doh piano at the moment with that. So we're constantly adding new technologies that people can check out in the space and play with. That's the Eggbot that this woman is playing with. That will take illustrations from a program and then use a Sharpie marker and draw your illustration on a rounded object. That's the Eggbot. We have a teen hangout. That screen there is four 55-inch HD displays with four Xbox ones and four PS4s hooked up to them. So you can play four different games at a time or one game on a 110-inch HD display. And yes kids do also, they're all working there and whatnot. We have what we call Little's Lab, which is our little kids' room. That has one of those AWE workstations in it. It also has another 55-inch touchscreen PC hooked up, mounted on the wall at toddler height. Emily's son has come in and gets to play some iPad games, but on a screen that's almost 60 inches wide on that. And we do kind of an interactive digital storytime in there and do programs for parents about how to work with technology with their kids and the factors of ethnicity are doing a storytime. We do have some books similar to those that we have. We have HTML for babies. It's a board book. It's never too early to use it. We have a web page. And then just over here is in our 3D lab. We usually, when we do a physical tour, we stop at that 3D lab. We end there because we started there. Nobody knew where we were. In the 3D lab we have three printers. We have a TAS5 that is a desktop model. And that is bookable. You can book up to two hours at a time on that and use yourself completely free to use. Let me just stress here. This is all completely free to use as long as you remember. We just start with paper and plastic. That's it. Then we have two other 3D printers. Oh, it's got an U print SE and a Dimension 1200 ES. Those are industrial level 3D printers. You are not going to find another one that's public access in the state of either of those. In those cases, what we do is there's something that was printed on one of them. You submit your files to us. We put them in a queue. We will get those printed for you and just charge you for the insurance. We're not looking to make a profit off of that. If you want to do it yourself, then you can book time on the TAS. Also in the 3D lab we have a laser cutter etcher. You want to see some wooden and glass things going by in this slideshow. This will cut in or etch everything from wood to acrylic to rubber, if you want to make rubber stamps, to glass, marble, metals. You can get creative. I saw the chess set go by a little bit earlier. That was done with a laser cutter up on the table. In front of me here we have a puzzle of what our volunteers made. Then we also added recently a vinyl cutter. If you want to make vinyl stickers, you can just bring in vinyl and get those cut in that. That's something we made. We have a Dunkin' Donuts in our bag. Did I mention that? If you need the caffeine and the sugar, you're all good. We got you completely covered. There's some kids working with straws and building. I think it was a bridge project they were trying to get support going on. One other thing that went by I saw was we have work on double telepresence robots. You can check those out or you can book them for a meeting. You can get on your computer. Your face will show up on the iPad in the robot. You get to drive the robot around the building at the tech meeting. There's a camera on the iPad in the robot so you can see what's going on in the room. I should have maybe brought one. What if they would do a presentation on a double robot? I think that might be kind of interesting. Here's a thermist that a medical student etched different types of heartbeats onto his thermists. They were using our laser cutter so you could study heart rhythms while he's drinking his coffee. We did a light painting workshop. I saw some of you were kind of moving and I saw some of these pictures going on. Like I said, we have a full educational program. I have some flyers up front of the table here of just a sample of our what's available. We do different kinds of programming. We have a youth category. We have what we call lifestyle category. Crash courses. Here's an introduction to Word, PowerPoint. In fact, we have someone in the audience who's actually taught one of those PowerPoint classes for us. We do resume workshops. We will do an introduction to PHP classes. Yesterday, I think it was Junior Hackers Group used the new Lego We Do construction kits and built robots that you would program using a language called Scratch. You bring up a laptop with the software. It communicates via Bluetooth to the Lego and then you get your robot to solve a problem. Our educational program, we really want to stress not just sitting down attending a presentation and hope you learn something. We really try to make them as hands-on as possible so that kids really do learn something. The slide up here, we also have meeting spaces available. We have two conference rooms and then a meeting room, a large meeting room that divides in half. These rooms are available for booking by the general public, nonprofits, community organizations for free. We also have a meeting room where you can have a presentation process that we approve. If you're just a study group and you want a room, we can do that for you. If you are a private organization and want a private meeting where the public is not allowed to come, there is a normal charge for that. We charge very competitively with other places you can rent in the area. Our meeting rooms have either 70 or 80 inch touch screen so that if you want to connect anything from your iPod touch to an HDMI device, we can connect you via a wire or wireless in one frame or another. Basically, bring it in and we'll figure out how to connect it for you. Coming up here, one of the programs I do want to highlight is our Senior Cyber Society. We have 18 paid staff from the executive director down to our staff under me and the education coordinator and our membership folks up front, kind of running the front desk and greeting people. Then we have a cadre of just over 200 volunteers available to us right now and we're always looking for more. There's volunteer information on the website and I'll fly her on the table in front of me. Those volunteers range from what we call advocates, which are people who are just standing inside the front door and answering the question, what is do space and can I show you around to our people who teach actual workshops to people who help on our tech help desk which is what my staff mostly runs to we have a mentor program. So one of those kind of long-term problems you have when you're doing public service and trying to answer questions for people is how long do you spend with a particular individual trying to answer their question? We've got high-end software in this place. I couldn't begin to tell you how AutoCAD works I know what it does but I'm not going to be able to help you nor do we have any other AutoCAD experts on staff and poor AutoCAD, we pick on it so much because it's kind of the most complicated software we offer access to but we have a cadre of people called mentors. So we will kind of help you out we will get you started, we want to encourage you to learn on your own but if you really need somebody to sit down with you for an hour or two you should fill out a form on our website we will then match you up with one of our mentors and then between you and the mentor you make an appointment and you sit down and they will come in and they will sit down with you and help you out whether it's on our equipment or on your equipment and we have a pretty good success rate with that we've got a long list of stuff that people are willing to just come in and help other people with IndieSpace and we are always looking for more and we will stress that we could not run this place without our volunteer I mean I can't stress that more than that these are some pictures from grand opening I think we are going to start cycling through in a few minutes IndieSpace in and of itself is a giant experiment as I mentioned we are trying to answer these questions of what happens when people have this level of technology I forgot to finish the story about Cyberseniors Cyberseniors means every Wednesday morning from 9am to noon it is run by senior volunteers and one staff person who is going to charge the whole program and it's basically your senior you need to come in and you just need help with your stuff you've got an iPad for Christmas that the kids gave you and then they went back home and explained how to use it so I'm familiar you know you need to sign up for email something like that and it's just kind of this open lab where folks come in and you ask them to register first so we can do some crowd control and they can help and that's it and we were averaging about 30 or 35 people a week and then two weeks ago it was in the and last week we had over 75 people show up just tell you who reads the newspaper that was the best marketing we probably could have ever had this week we had well over 50 we had a little more crowd control but people showed up to like what you know and they needed it so they used it and that is probably I would say one of our biggest successes at least from a program and events standpoint the stories that we're collecting out of Dewspace are just amazing the things people are doing at Dewspace I can't predict from one day to the next how people are going to use their technology we've had a gentleman come in a couple of times with a full size digital keyboard hook it up one of the Macs load up GarageBand put out his headset and make music and record it right onto our computers we do have a 3D scanner it's called an iSense it's an okay scanner it'll do your head quite well if you're a really fine detail this is not the tool yet we're working on that some kids discovered they can do that so they're scanning each other's heads and they're printing out little busts of themselves but we had one gentleman come in one day somewhere around 75 or 80 and he's like I heard me delight like scan my head and print a bust of me yeah I mean why do you want to do this but he's like well I fly RC planes and he wants to put himself as the pilot I don't know just like that spectacular I never could have guessed we have folks who are trying to start girls well businesses who will come in and prototype music art equipment we have a gentleman who he and a buddy want to start a custom engraving company and need to they will buy their own laser cutter we do ask that you're not using our space to actually make your business but they need to kind of learn how the equipment works and figure out if they want to invest in it and create some samples and so they're doing that using our equipment and in that case they can book up to two hours a day first come first serve, they're bringing all the materials there's no charge we do have some folks who are typically in 8 to 12 hours a day because this is now their co-working space instead of paying a company to go get a desk somewhere over an office building they come in and use our equipment now at the moment we've got enough computer capacity to people using that they can spend 6, 8, 12 hours on our computers come summer we're starting to warn them it's going to be a little tight we are really trying to figure out what's going to happen in the summer it's going to be interesting what else do I want to say here's Felicity doing another group of Girl Scouts with a little robot called Dash and Dot that will teach you how to program and then you can drive them around with your iPad and instruct them on a few things we love the common cards that we get from people like I said we're just collecting those stories as much as we can briefly so there's there's those 56 computers off to the right there briefly upstairs is MCC, Metropolitan Community College some of the things some of the photos that have gone by have been upstairs they will be doing a lot of continuing education type of classes up there they kind of have a very open classroom situation the upstairs when they're open is completely open to the public right now when people ask where's a quiet place to go they tell them to go upstairs because there's no students up there yet but as the spring comes up they will be doing more and more classes and workshops they did last month a science on the sphere which was a two-week exhibit it's this giant sphere with projectors and you can control with an iPad and get like weather data and satellite data and see the history of the earth and things like that oh during our grand opening we did do a high altitude balloon launch this is pictures that came back and we were able to track the balloon life in this space as that was going up that was in conjunction with UL on that and so with partnering with Metro or excuse me MCC Metro is the plus people with MCC they're going to be paying attention to what we're doing downstairs and offering longer initial classes like Microsoft certification that sort of stuff upstairs we'll be paying attention to what they're doing upstairs so we have kind of the resources to support their students downstairs and people who want to do that so they'll start looking at what software they're teaching and maybe make that available downstairs so it's going to be just a very interesting long-term partnership with them and kind of working back and forth and I do know too once they really get up and going our door counts going to go just instantly go up so that's one thing I track every day as our door count so I'm very aware of those numbers there's one kid scanning her brother with a 3D scanner we are I'll just kind of wrap up and open up for questions one thing we're trying to do is we're trying to be very responsive to the community so that once we let people in and find out how it really works that's where it kind of comes back on me and on us in that people are asking for things and they're saying well there's this whole group in this community who works with this kind of software maybe you need to have that available this was our outdoor site countdown so I think we're going through these hardware so we did not open with a flatbed scanner for people to scan photographs we just didn't think of it well we have one now and we have a couple of people we have one now and they bring a stack of photos and they get it for two hours and she's scanning her photos so we're adjusting the technology as much as we can we like to say I mentioned that we don't have we're not using our full capacity in the public computers right now maybe if in six months we figure out we never have well maybe we'll pull out some computers and put in something else when we open we only have the two 3D printers we want one we can play with directly not just look at so we got the task so we're constantly trying to adjust one other thing I mentioned did a picture of a brain go by so that was a medical instructor on a campus somewhere it was a life-size brain somewhat atrophied however so it was not as solid as a normal brain I guess that was an 86 hour long 3D print we did over Christmas he brought in a real brain he found the model of file we printed it I will say 3D printing it's kind of like watching paint dry it's interesting for about five minutes and then it's just like oh look it's a nozzle going back and forth and then layers so yeah but that's that was our single biggest print we've done so far luckily it worked all the way through we didn't have to restart it we left it over Christmas as we were closed and we're coming back we're like please we're gonna do when you get industrial level printers they're a lot more reliable I could not have dreamed of doing what I'm doing right now a year ago even when I took the job as those of you who know me know that I used to talk to people a lot and this is the third presentation I've done in a year I just you know my life has completely changed that's Elvin Elvin is amazing he was actually at our outside side the other day he's an artist around town some people see him downtown so anyways yeah I think we're kind of cycling back to our photos here so actually my timing worked pretty well so yeah I'm really committed to this project I think it's I don't know where I'm going to end up in a couple of years none of us do really but if I wasn't as committed to this project as I was I wouldn't be commuting from Lincoln also so you know my gas bill is going off just a little bit yeah this bear I will end with this bear this was a bear that got left so we gave him a little tour and we gave him a part in everything it was a race playing with our BBA and the 3D printers actually this was the single most successful social media we've done so far we did actually find the people through Facebook who left the bear behind but yeah Ted E. Bear that has the capital D space there there's Dash and Dash so yeah okay so that's about more than half of my time and as we have learned over the last year everybody has lots of questions so I would at this point just like to open it up and what do you want to know about D space and somehow I think we're going to answer remote questions too I don't know if Chris is controlling that or what what do you want to know answer what are some of these things at the moment or goal if there's some specific thing you D space is trying to reach this year goals um we're actually actively putting those together as we speak okay good we have a lot more to go around so the question was what are our goals for this year um there's very I'm going to be a little nebulous in this answer at the moment because we're actively trying to put those together um but serving a diverse community we're trying to reach everybody um so we are looking very much at our demographics and our statistics a lot I'm learning more statistics right now than I care to think about uh some days um so that for example on the registration form we do ask for years ago so we can kind of make some generalizations from that we do ask some demographic questions those are completely optional to make sure that this project is reaching the people who really do need it uh if nothing else and then the people who do have a certain level of access to technology giving them that next level of access I think is a big one so just kind of reaching the diverse population is one of our big goals at the moment we are getting about a thousand new members a month a week so uh yeah we're doing a lot of card signups uh so so we are starting to reach them um beyond that I think just being that responsiveness to the community um and one of my goals right now is to survive the summer because we notice when when when OPS is like off on a Friday our numbers go through the room it's like hey let's all go to these things uh spring break was this week for some schools uh we've noticed a definite uptick in the gate count too so yeah um yeah I can't wait for summer um but yeah ultimately it's like I said it's kind of we're in this experiment so we're trying to um we are setting up those goals but we haven't really solidified but yeah I can get up to this Jake yes Jake I don't actually don't think this is okay I'll repeat it okay um um Caitlin um Mbardo actually works for you guys and works at here at middle of university as a part-time right uh circulation assistance so that's fantastic Caitlin is wonderful yes and then trying to steal next yeah sorry this is uh uh she had mentioned that you guys actually circulate uh raspberry pies yes yes yes yes um now does that actually does that or any other technology actually leave the doors yeah okay everything is in this space um so um for example little bits kids that's right on the screen here uh everything is produced in the building okay um we uh really the only thing you can do with a membership outside of the building is we do have an overdrive collection of tack and stem related material fiction but just kind of related to what we do right um but yeah everything else is really to encourage people to use the space and collaborate in the space and work with each other in the space so yeah nothing nothing goes out the door at this point it's just curious any technology that's being lend out I know that there's a lot of uh like very large metropolitan libraries doing the whole wireless lending and stuff like that I was just curious to which I will probably just add not at this time we haven't ruled out we just aren't you know part of the goal is to get people to just use do space as a place um and then we're constantly re-evaluating things like that so maybe we will eventually but just not at this time oh I don't want it goes make me nervous I'll repeat your question I always end up talking too loud I kept seeing pictures of the violin oh the violin was that something that was made with the 3D printer and it actually works so that is called Hovalin a couple whose first names escaped me but their last name is Hova they are from Omaha they now live in San Francisco she is a spectacular violinist he works for a company but a company that writes 3D design software and so their project is called the Hovalin it is a 3D printable violin you do have to buy the strings and the knobs and whatnot but between plastic and parts it costs about $100 and the idea is from their perspective more of a instruments are expensive and kids want to try an instrument and a 3D working 3D printed violin for $100 maybe a little easier than a cheap $400 violin that the kid gives up in six months so yes, we printed one they have since come out with a version 2 that we haven't printed yet they came and did an event for us and it is playable it sounds great nobody on staff actually can play it and in fact, on Kate Hova this sort of heard former violin teacher actually printed one and came into new space and tuned it and re-strung it for us and played it and he knows what he is doing so yes, if you stop buying just ask to see the violin and we have to hang kind of in a work room we will pull it out and let you fiddle with it and we intend to print the new version but we have to sneak that in between people who want us to print things for them but yeah, thanks and actually if you look up Hova in H-O-V-A-L-I-M just google it and you can see videos in the process yeah, that's a great project Michael, we do have some questions from our remote viewers go for it okay where are we at here so I want to know if people use the space a cyber cafe, is that the kind of idea like sure, yeah they can oh yeah, the donut shop yeah, that's why we had the donut shop although we don't move next to the computers unless it's a lid on a coffee where the lid is fine yeah, no, seriously people can just come in and we have some 15 ministrations where they just want to check for e-mail people maybe not to watch what people are doing on the computers because it's really none of my business but then we also want to know what people are doing on the computers e-mail, resumes so yeah, you can that's part of what we do is that cyber cafe okay do you have policies online or where can people find them as far as printing and what are actually they can and can't do there there's a website that has it all listed so if you go to dospace.org and I believe that's under the about yeah, most of our policies are listed online how much things cost we have a behavior policy of code of conduct that sort of thing that we do enforce the food policy has changed over the last month or so as we just some food usage was getting a little out of hand so a little more control over that we learn but I will say probably as the audience here works in libraries most of these policies will seem very familiar to you I mean the three people who wrote them are all librarians so we kind of had a no place to start anyways so yeah, but all of those that most people should be looking for are on our website okay great another one, since it's such a new idea how are you marketing and advertising I know you talked about the newspaper articles but are you guys doing anything specific so we actually have a marketing firm that we're working with so this is where I have to be a little careful because I know what some things I can't talk about yet which if you know me that's all all summer I had to like not tell people what was going on so yeah the marketing firm works with local media works with the bus system and actually if you watch carefully there is a bus completely wrapped here in Omaha that is the new space bus the only picture I have of it is in the parking lot though I want to like on the street but I passed it once but I was driving so it's a little hard there's bus benches, there are billboards out around Dodge Street in 72nd so yeah there is a whole plan war will be happening there's kind of a schedule of things that will be going on so that's where the benefit of the kind of the private funding we've got pretty good budgets for all of this I was joking last summer that I'm dealing with more zeros than I used to so so that's about as detailed as I can get at this point but yeah there is a complete total marketing plan going on do you know the name of the firm or no? I think I can say that it's Swanson Russell okay yeah that's been out in the papers promotion for them yeah so a couple of questions about the sewing stuff I guess their picture is sewing into the clothes what are you doing with that and what with the yarn I know those are two different things but some of the more kind of crafty things can you talk more about those two the yarn I'm going to plead actual ignorance on that one I don't know what that event was we've done a couple of events that are kind of what we call tech fashion so sewing in LEDs and length strings into clothing and into hats and then hooking up a battery and a little pack behind it and lighting up your clothing after dark that's been fun I will tell you though I was amused by the tech fashion one last week because there was like it's teenagers there was like one guy all the rest were teen girls he was having a good time but yeah so far it's all still hand sewing we don't have sewing machines or anything like that yet we've talked about it but I think probably if you look through our events calendar you can get a few more details about what's going on with those particular workshops can you give us an idea about the cost someone wants to know how much it costs to do that brain oh how much did the brain cost so the what we charge is a number that's not really going to help which is $3 per cubic inch of filament I think the brain was in the neighborhood about $150 if I recall correctly so not bad the chess piece that just went by would be maybe $4 $5 that brain is solid so the brain I don't think was solid I think it was a high density fill so for 3D printing you can do kind of low you don't have to print it solid if you print it solid you're going to use more filament it's going to cost more it's going to weigh more we have done some solid objects they do a way a lot when you do add that extra cost the industrial printers prints in PLA which is basically Lego plastic so the one you can book yourself prints in a couple of dozen different kinds of filament it's just what you want to bring in sorry was that the remote questions one more just popped up someone said they saw a picture of a Segway maybe or was there I think that was the double telepresence robot it kind of Segway but it's an iPad on a stick with some wheels at the bottom there's a modern family episode big bag yes so Cynthia you had a question and then behind you Janet Grace who's on our board compiled some good questions and they were already asked but you had some good questions about the Google glasses and a few other things I was just curious if you had the Oculus gaming or a Google so the closest we're going to get which we will make available for check out the next couple of weeks are some Google Cardboard so you plug your phone in and you can do that I've looked at the Oculus I've looked at the Samsung VR I was at CES and I actually got to wear one of those in a chair they moved to wow it was pretty good I am desperately trying to get my hands on a HoloLens from Microsoft I really want one of those ever since I got this job I'm like I want one of those so you support me some other people support me too I work in the channels I can't promise anything but that is a goal of mine is I am going to get my hands on one of those and actually did you have a quick question I was just wondering on your team events and your youth events do you have age limitations do you have a cutoff that says you can't participate because you're the one so it kind of depends on the event so we have learned that there are some of them that are like 12 to 16 and my understanding from talking to staff is some of those they've had some 11 year olds and just the manual dexterity was just not there yet to be able to do whatever the activity was and so they kind of had to be a little more tighter controlled on the age limits but we really don't want to tell a kid no either but if it's for 12 to 16 an 8 year old just isn't going to fit in anyway sort of thing so we had what we called Little's Lab and we had team hackers what we kind of lost in there was like 6 to 11 in the middle so we've created Big Little's Lab and then there's junior makers and we're trying to fill that gap in the middle and in some cases the program concepts might be the same as like what the teams are doing but modified a little bit for the younger group so that's kind of my non-answer of sometimes we have to but we don't really want to just because of experience and the type of event that it is it just may not work for a younger individual. I saw a picture of a young man with special Olympics Yes. Do you let them participate at any age level? So he was actually working in our 3D lab and he did that with the laser cutter the plaque that he was holding up so we have had groups of folks with disabilities coming in I don't see why we wouldn't I'm not sure honestly he has actually specifically come up yet so that's something we would just decide on a case by case basis but we want to be as inclusive as possible so you know it would partially be up to the instructor too as to what the activity is Would they live an old lady like me do team tech ventures? My suggestion would be be a volunteer for it because we're always looking for volunteers and I don't get you in the dark so My question is about how far in advance because I'm sitting here thinking there's so many things that you do that I would love to have the kids from my community introduced to that I am never going to be able to do at that level at my library in Tecada So if I were to plan like with a couple of my parent volunteers to get a couple of bands together how far in advance would we need to schedule to have say maybe like an hour long tour of the facility and then let the kids hang out for another hour and kind of go their own way there's a form on the website there's a tour request okay and under that there is kind of so there's just I want a tour and then there's kind of I want a tour with an activity and it's all in the same form okay I would say at least a couple of weeks at this point but kind of all of those details under it's under one of the tabs across the top I don't know which one but yeah we do do things like that so yeah I would just fill out the read all the details fill out the form and then staff will get back to you in a day or two to try to get that schedule to work with you to the best of our ability and is it better to kind of keep your group like should I aim it towards like my team book club and advisory kind of keep it like a team or can we kind of mix up a group or is it better to keep it like an age group yeah I'm not the exact person to ask on that particular question but my gut reaction is yeah if you can kind of group with my age we can then better get an activity to that age group without completely boring the older ones or using the older ones okay and yeah I think one for a couple more last question who are your private funders I have absolutely no idea I can honestly say that there are some very generous folks with available funds in the Omaha area you know and I could not thank them enough I know I have met some of our board members who I believe probably were also donors but that is not I don't have a list even if I did I'm not sure I could share that with you good question thank you Michael we're going to take a short break