 So forgiveness really is a, I wouldn't even say, it's positive in a world of opposites of positives and negatives, I wouldn't even call forgiveness positive. The miracle does nothing. All it does is undo. So we couldn't really even call a miracle a positive thing in the sense that all it does is undo. And the journey to the ego's perspective is very disheartening, very challenging, disconcerting, it's frustrating, it's irritating. I remember when I first came upon the manual for teachers of the Course in Miracles, I actually looked through the stages of the development of trust and I started looking at them and seeing how many of them were really like positive or wonderful experiences and how many were upsetting, disconcerting, you know, and I was amazed to find that the vast majority of the stages of development of trust are difficult. So that, I was like, thank you, just give it to me straight, don't sugarcoat it, this is what it's going to be like. I'm going to go through a lot of disillusionment with this Course and put that out front and it was out front. So I really, I wasn't really surprised when the floor fell out and then the floor fell out again. Once more, the floor fell out. You know, it wasn't, it didn't really catch me off guard. I was somewhat prepared for that. But there comes a point when the floors don't drop out anymore. There's a stability that comes, your mind goes from upside down to right side up. You come into consistent right-mindedness and then it's more like, ah, oh, I knew it, I knew it was there. It's just faith and trust and that experience is very natural and very consistent and there's nothing that comes to disturb that rest and that peace.