 Welcome into another episode of the original gangsters podcast. I'm Scott Bernstein your host. This is another quick hitter episode. We got Benny behind the glass and Jimmy will be joining us later this week on the long form 60 minute edition. Today I'm going to talk about the outlaws motorcycle club. And some recent developments. In that group, we've been talking quite a bit about the peace talks that are going on between the Hells Angels and the outlaws as a means to combat the pagans motorcycle clubs blue wave their expansion effort. And in relation to that there are some, you know, there was there's been some news. First off, out in Buffalo, the international president of the outlaws, the number one shot caller in that group, Tommy Oh, his real name is john or mean, but the outlaws and Tommy oh have come up in the court record for an upcoming trial this for Peter Jurassic Junior and Joe Bon Giovanni. Jurassic Junior is the nephew of alleged Buffalo mafia Don Big Joe Tadaro and Bon Giovanni is a retired DEA agent, childhood friend of Jurassic that's accused of protecting mafia back drug operations and accepting about a quarter of a million dollars in payoffs court findings this week. Speak to the power dynamic between the mafia, the Buffalo mafia, the Magadena crime family, and the outlaws and in a court finding I found surprising. They're trying to make the prosecution is trying to make the claim that Jurassic Junior is a, if not high ranking member of organized crime, somebody with status in organized crime he's never been convicted of any mob related activities. Right now he's under under indictment in a big case, but within that case, they have witnesses, telling them that over the years, Peter Jurassic Junior as owner of Pharaoh strip club, which is his, his business and Tommy Oh is his general manager and head of that strip club that Peter Jurassic has bragged and boasted to employees that he is a made member of the Buffalo mafia. What's interesting in these court filings is that the prosecution is making the claim that the outlaws Tommy Oh and his guys that work there are a number of outlaws in addition to Tommy Oh that are employed at Pharaoh strip club are quote unquote subservient to Jurassic Junior, meaning that the outlaws get their final word from Jurassic you could look at least within the club and within the drug and prostitution rackets that are being alleged that Jurassic is being accused of overseeing bond Giovanni is being accused of protecting and then in a separate investigation. The outlaws and Tommy Oh are being investigated for participating in these drug rackets supplying the drugs at the club, as well as taking part in the sex trafficking and prostitution rackets. But it was interesting to see that word subservient that Tommy Oh and his guys would be subservient to Peter Jurassic Junior. Peter Jurassic Junior, at least to the naked eye, before this case came about was a nobody. Yeah, he was the nephew. I mean nobody within the realm of organized crime in Western New York. Yeah, he's the nephew of big Joe to Darrow the grandson of lead pipe Joe to Darrow big Joe's reputed predecessor. But the idea that someone like Tommy Oh or people like the outlaws would be taking orders from Peter Jurassic Junior. At least this is what's being alleged in the court filings I think is is something that kind of flew under the radar when these court filings. Hit the docket a week ago. The big, you know, headline from those from those court filings in the Buffalo press was that the judge john Sinatra US District Court Judge john john Sinatra was having to recuse himself was stepping down from from the case, because of emotion by the defense claiming that there were a couple of potential character witnesses that might cause a conflict of interest with Sinatra Sinatra recused himself by but when he recused himself mentioned that he felt that this was gamesmanship by the defense to get him off the bench to try to replace him with with a judge that maybe was more favorable. So he went towards Jurassic Junior and Banji Avani, he claimed that he didn't think these witnesses that would have the conflict of interest would actually ever testify they were dubbed character witnesses. Jurassic Junior's attorney and Banji Avani attorney pushed back on that notion. The word subservient. When it comes to the outlaws to someone like Jersey and the Italian mafia, I think it's a big word it speaks volumes. And when you talk about kind of a pecking order, especially when you have a what looks like a lower rank guy in an organized crime group, employing someone like a Tommy O who this isn't hyperbole in terms of organized crime shot callers in the country, if not the world, Tommy O is in the top five right now probably top 10. And the idea that he would be subservient to someone like Jurassic Junior. I think there's a lot to unpack there and we'll see where that takes us as as the case gets off and running in August if there are any charges that eventually hit the outlaws. We mentioned it before you know the outlaws are a Midwest traditionally a Midwest group. The seat of power has always been either in Chicago Detroit Milwaukee. It's never been out in the east coast in the last five years or so. It's now in Buffalo with Tommy Oh, a lot of activity. You know a lot of biker politics percolating right now. The relationships between these groups are very fragile if not at you know, if not at war. I don't know what what we can call what's going on with the pagans right now but they seem to be butting heads with almost every rival group that they encounter in this expansion effort, whether it be the angels, the outlaws. I just wanted to alert everybody of that language in the court filing that says that the outlaws Tommy Oh, take direction from Jurassic Junior it's not saying they take direction from Big Joe to Darrow which would make more sense. I'm saying they take direction in our subservient to Peter Jurassic Junior who we have no idea what status he has in the mafia has never been convicted of being a main member of the mob. All we have is witnesses claiming that he's he's bragged of being a member of his uncle's crime family. I want to finish off here in our home state here at the OG pod, the home state of Michigan we had some outlaws activity that could be related to this ongoing conflict with the pagans and peace talks with the Los Angeles but we don't know for sure last week. One of the four outlaws clubhouses here in Michigan was set on fire. Luckily the fire didn't spread, but police in Bay City Michigan which is about 100 miles north of Detroit, and they have a pretty integral chapter up there. At one point in time in the 2000s, you have the the whole boss of of the Midwest or part of the Midwest region for the outlaws was based in Bay City they called him black region Roy Lee Roy Frazier. But I believe it was June 15. There was an incident at the Bay City outlaws clubhouse where someone a 32 year old man who has not been identified showed up and threw gasoline on the porch and let a match fire started for literally like five, six, seven seconds went out. It caught like a leaf blower electric leaf blower was caught on fire but that was the most damage that was done. The 32 year old was taken into custody, been charged with an arson. We don't know motive. I've heard that it's possible that this was just a personal beef that this guy had with a member of the club and it wasn't related to, you know, bigger club politics or anything involving the the pagans or the Hells Angels. But it's just something to keep an eye out Bay City outlaws clubhouse was attempted to be set on fire in an arson this week, and then out in Buffalo we have the court filings that show us that the outlaws in Buffalo are taking direction from the strip club owner Peter Drasek Jr. So we'll be keeping tabs for Ben behind the glass and for Jimmy will be back for the long form episode. Scott Bernstein og pod out. .