 We started in 1983. We thought we'd do it for three years to earn a small farm and that never happened. After ten years we moved from a handmade process to a production line. When we started there was no Welsh brand. I think that is one of the success stories of the Welsh government. They've really created an awareness for Welsh foods. Three years ago I started selling the company to my staff. Life is too short. You want to be proud in life so I want people to feel ownership of it.