 I was like, how is this going to work out? Because I know the nigga, even in his verses, I knew he had love for you. I ain't going to lie to me. I was like, this nigga had love for J-Daw. I can't believe he didn't play with me. Yeah, we on boss talk, one on one, one on one. Yeah, we going to talk. I remember when you got, when you were being, when Slim with this and y'all, all of y'all. I was like, how is this going to work out? Yeah, I remember. And I was like, how is this going to work out? Because I know the nigga, even in his verses, I knew he had love for you. I ain't going to lie to me. I was like, this nigga had love for J-Daw. I can't believe he didn't play with me. You know what I mean? But, you know, we was all, truth be told, it's too, it's too, it's too much bloodline in there for anything crazy to ever happen. You know what I mean? So when you do here, you know, because we're real family. Yeah. Like your mama, like my daughter. Yeah, at each of the houses, like, I get it. It's different. Your brother's my brother, your sister's my brother. You got the same boat. Yeah, so, you know, I can't believe he played with me. So you was locked up and you heard it when you, you heard about it when you were locked up? Yeah. Through a letter, through a call, through a, or because y'all, did y'all have a little walk? Through letters, through everything, you know what I mean? They was just. Nigga talking. Nigga was talking, you know what I mean? I was, you know, I give, I give him his prize because he did it. I mean, you know, I ain't, you know, I just didn't think nobody was stupid enough to play with me like that. Yeah. And he did it. So that didn't make me say that. What, when you was in that sale, what you was thinking, like, what? I'ma tell you what the hell just happened. I don't mind, I'm thinking like, well, I can't wait. You know? But see, this was what people don't know. Slim, I don't care what the world think about him now. That nigga there, man, when he was rapping, man, when we was coming up, he was the first one who switched. Like, showed me something different with the rap gang. Like, watching him, you know what I mean? Like, we were coming up, this switch house. So we are already coming up, knowing what beat we want to rip. The way he was ready, had his shit together. I was like, yeah. That nigga was ready, wasn't it? Yeah, he was 3,000, he was writing everything. Say, even if you was writing, even if you were 3,000, and you was writing, you wasn't writing like him. Yeah. You know what I mean? He was on it, wasn't he? We was coming down. You know what I mean? He said, we was coming down. He was, well, I'll say it. He was articulating that, articulating that hell out of us. Nobody at the city ever did. He was man-safe. Bro, that, I ain't gonna lie to you, when I got all the- He the reason, man, listen, they may not say this, right? But when you got the north side, our era, cause you know, we started switch house, when you said, all right, let's throw our league. When you talk about the north side era, nothing from all the outsprings of it to the beginning, us, the beginning. Man, none of it would have went nowhere if Sam wasn't rapping like that. It was his rapping that basically. I don't, I ain't saying we wouldn't, we all got telling, we wouldn't, I don't know what would have happened. I'm saying, reality is, the way it did happen, it happened. Yeah. And that was mainly symptom. That nigga was too wild. Man, that nigga was rapping on that boy. Man, that nigga was saying some shit that was just blowing out my mouth. He was like, whoa. You like this? But I don't play ball, rather than make my fifth full foul while the other four crawl. That was crazy, man. This nigga's going in. And nobody rapping like this, you know what I mean? This nigga going in. Going in. Keep in mind, you got songs that, what blew up my songs, what was some? That Tipped off all fours. Man, I'm on that song. See, that's the thing, oh no. As you talk about the beginning, if you were talking about the real song. Yeah, you was on that one. It's Me, Symptoms, Lil Mario, you know what I mean? We rapping on it, I'm on hold. You know I'm on hold. Yeah, I love it. Now look who creeping, look who crawling, look who balling in the mix. It's six, it's six, six, six, six, six, six, six. Yeah. Yeah, so they just, what they did, why was, they took Symphoms off of that and then they put a real beat. Mr. Lee, just like, he played with that old. Put a real beat up on it. And now you got, oh, who was on it? Mike Jones by Wilde. But if you talking about the original, you know what I mean? I'm on hold. Yeah, it's just, we flowin' on it, I'm on hold beat. I mean, Symphoms. And they go beast. I don't care what nobody say. From the north to the south side, east to the west, back then, that young dude blew out my mind. He switched the game, he showed us, you better get serious. Cause I'm feeling, how, okay. How did you, what did you think about it? And cause I'll interview Slim one day, but like, what did you think about him when he signed over to Pharrell and did that venture? H-town. Olympus. What's up with him? Yeah, what's up with him? No, what's up with him right now? Take us home. All that shit was good to me. In my mind, I was, I was too old. I'm likin' it, that's Pharrell. Keep in mind, I'm coming. I'm in the pillow chair, I'm coming home seeing. I'm like, that's Pharrell. I ain't even, you know what I mean? Everything is big to me. You know what I mean? So now if you ask me, after it doesn't happen, I don't learn the scene, without the scene. Now if you ask me, I feel like his fan base at that time. Now, I'm only saying this to not know and everything transpired. Your fan base didn't vote that. Your fan base didn't vote to switch up. Now I know this, you know what I mean? In fact, if you was on fire, if you wouldn't have went with Pharrell, then you just got a couple of beats with him and just stayed on your Texas tape, that's what your fans wanted. You know what I mean? To me, that's my personal opinion. I get it. I agree. Yeah, they get it. I agree. Because when I heard it, ain't gonna lie to you, because I like a boss and all that. I cough shot like a boss, that night like a boss, cop drive like a boss, on top like a boss. I really wanted my old slim back. Let's be real, I'm just being real. Me too. Me. I can't talk about what everybody else say. Oh, that was good. That was good. But me being a real like a Texas dude. You wanted that. I wanted that. I feel it, bitch. Ride with no sin. Love it, girl. It's a little fuck up. When I pull out them haters feel miserable. I wanted that, just like if I was listening to Pimp and I understood when Pimp said that about big pimping and it sounded different because I would use to that underground grip. So it was two boss of all bosses. It was two of them. Yeah. The first one that came out. It was all freestyle. Yeah. Is that, no, not possible. I'm thinking about the, his first album, but for real, it's two that they get leaked to something. Yeah, yeah. And it came out with different songs on it. The first one was hard to them both. Both of them was hard. Both of them was hard. Know what I mean? But that's the one. He didn't connect to his, his main fan base. But of course. Shit. Just think about it. You come in the game, you have. If for real giving you advice, man, I think you ought to go this way. Who gonna say, no, I think. No. I don't think I'd have stayed in this thing. No, I could say that I didn't. I wasn't on it like I go on it that other, but I understood why he did what he done. Yeah, me too. I understood the bigger picture. Yeah. But now far as just the slim that I love. Yeah. If you ask me my personal, I wish he would have stayed on that Texas shit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but like I say, man, you had people in there. You remember on that CD, he had Dre on that. Yeah. That's different. Yeah. Dr. Dre on this. You know what I mean? Like, hey, man, we coming from the bottom of the north, the dirty north side of his tiff. Man, you got for real and Dre on your shit. Blew my mind. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna be real, man. Like that whole time, man, like I'm gonna be real. I love slim, bro. Anyway, the music he done, even to this day, slim won't give us something. You know what I'm saying?