 Good evening. I like to call Monday, April 1st, 2020 forms really scheduled for meeting for order. I'm Brad Town and to my left is flow Smith. Far left is Bill Stubb. To my right is. Who's also acting town administrator. And with us tonight is Cali street or our town trader. And. Conditions are changes to the agenda to her. None. And public comment. None. Or hearing none. Public hearing acceptance of Dodge farm road is a town highway. I moved to open the public hearing. Your second second favor. Come on in. Make yourselves welcome comfortable. Earlier today at five o'clock, we've met at Dodge crime road for a site inspection. The road appears being good shape Tim and comments. Really just what we discussed about that we want to make, I want to just make sure that we got some clarification on that. We've got the right to maintain that. So I, or soil all the way up to the retention pond. I think everything else. There's going to be a little bit of clean up from those rats and stuff. And like I said, I'm. I'm going to address that one culvert. Up in the hill a little bit more was making a little bit more of a. Retention on there and so it can't jump out and wash it out. There and now it's just hand shoveled out. So. Yeah. Yeah, Joe. Going back to that ditch and the retention pond. I think we probably need to have a fairly good understanding on how that was designed. I really think right now. It doesn't drain directly to, I think it has a little. It's, it shallow, you know, it's fairly shallow. But 15 years from now when it needs to be maintained, I just want to make sure that, you know, course. We don't have to get into a battle about getting out there and out there and maintaining it. Nor do we want it to get in there and take it down. So it runs straight to the retention. So just an understanding of how it, how it's supposed to. They must have. I'm sure somebody has. Like Joe said, the design of. The grade work for it, whether it's supposed to be. I need to travel or get an inch of pitch through there or whatever it is. But I just want to make sure that we're set up. The duration that we have the right to. Maintain that. Yeah. Who has the plans for that? For the roadway. We have some plans. We personally have some plans. But I have not seen plans for the roadway or the. Or the. The drainage system. It's possible that. Very flourish would have those things. Who was the, who was the design engineer for that? I was mentioned that it was mentioned at the side. Oh, let's see. Would we have a copy as part of the subdivision? We should have. We should have a copy of that. Yeah. Yeah. It has to go through activity, right? Would that go through activity or no. That development. I think. Around a while. Back to 50. Start back. 60 something or 70s. Somebody's got to have a copy of that. And then we have a copy of that. So we have a copy of that. And then we have a copy of that. And then we have a copy of the records under. Dodge farm. From Dodge farm. Yeah. When being the property. It might be the zoning. It might be in the zoning file. If Tom has such a file. You check with Tom. Yeah. Any yet. Joe. And to continue on that ditch. I do believe that's the waterline coming down the hills. Yeah. And knowing what that is and everything. And we just don't. Dig deep ditches. Be important. No. You don't want to hit the waterline. You don't want to take any of the insulating valley. Oh, the soil above. Yeah. Any other. Comments on this. Mr. Sear, I see you're online. Yeah. Yeah. Add anything in. It was kind of one of the original. Yeah. Pissures on this. I don't see at least muted. Okay. New computer here, breaking it in tonight. It's not good. Good evening, Ray. Good evening. How are you folks? Good. Yeah, I do believe all that. You're looking for is on file with the town. I have, you know, eight and a half by 11 copies of it. And something that, you know, Difficult to read, but I'm quite positive. All that stuff was filed. The ditch going out to the retention pond. Yeah. I'm sure that. That we don't really care if you want to open it up and clean it out whenever you want. It would be a good thing for us. I did open up that culvert that was purposely blocked. For some reason, environmental wanted that. Blocked. So I did open it. I'm the culprit. So we find out why they wanted it. No, I, I, you know, I, I can't understand why, because, you know, moving that water over to that side of the road would end up in that redemption retention pond. I just, I can't. There's no like. Yeah, I have no reason to save any environmental species. Are they by not letting this seems odd that they would want to block. I don't know. I just, I just think it's probably not good that we call them up and ask them. I don't know how the, your inspection came out. I guess, I guess it's been okay. Yeah. Folks accept that. At least we're counting on it. Anything else on the dodge farm road. Entertain a motion. Okay. I'm going to close again. Okay. All those in favor. Hi. Hi. Here is. Okay. Possible decision on acceptance of dodge farm road and the town highway and acceptance of findings. So I guess this would be actually. Two parts. One of the first is do we want to already ready to accept dodge farm road as a town highway? That'd be the first decision. And then the second decision is we need to issue. A notice of findings. Of our other process and our deliberations and everything. And we have to do that within 60 days of the public hearing. So we don't have to do that part tonight. But I do recommend we accept the road as a town highway. And make that motion. I'll second that. Any further discussion. So I just want to clarify, we're going to first, I mean, I'm used to the DRB where we have conditions. So I don't know if that's a similar thing, but we want to make sure that. That the deed that there's access to that land. And I think the town should find out about why they close the call. Why they. I think it's kind of every sense ability to find out why they wanted that shot because we don't want to be liable for. Something that's my opinion. Well, When you look at it, Carla, we didn't really open it up. No, but down the road. If there's a reason for it. And we are not. In compliance. I mean, I guess we could always close it up again, but. I mean, I'm not as concerned about that as the land. We have access because if somebody else buys the land and decides they don't want us on the, we want the town on the property, that could be a problem. Well, you know, honestly, and closing it off like they did. It's not right. It's removal of the culvert. If that was a problem. Yeah. Yeah. And that wasn't, I guess, requested. To have it removed. You know, and that would be. Yeah. Okay. Yes. We do have a meats and bones. Excuse me. I'm sorry. When that was closed off or was as it been that way forever. I think. After Larry bought in. So he was a second owner. It happened at. At. At that time. I think they changed their mind after. It was allowed open the first time. Just guessing. It's all kind of a conjecture that we've heard. Back to the town highway portion. We do have a meats and bounds description. For a 50 foot right away up through there. It may even be 60. But I'm sure we can provide that. Yeah, this is down. Access. Can you explain. Down behind the mailboxes right where that it runs out to the retention pond on Scott Hill. Is what. That's what's that's the land we're talking about. Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, can't we just include that? If you decide to take that time. How are you on to include that as a condition. I'm sure everybody on the hill. It's a single private. Landowners. Yeah, I mean, the landowner agreed to that. So I think I don't think it's an issue. I just want to make sure that that's understood that we're going to have to have that, I think. Well, you should have in perpetuity. Right on the deed. Exactly. And he was okay with it. So I don't think it's a problem. Because he won't. Because he currently owns it. People want to put that on his deed. I think we're fine. If it's not already there. Yeah. I think you'll find this already there. Okay. Well, that would be good, but if not, you know, we just want that to happen. Well. So basically we're at a point where we're ready to accept the road, but we have one little stop. We're going to put that on his deed. I think we're fine if it's not already there. Yeah. So we're ready to accept the road, but we have one little stumbling block. Yeah. So any chance of having the motion. Conditional. Yeah. Being straightened out. For positive findings. Well, I'll move that we accept. Can I amend the motion? No, you can amend it now. Okay. To accept the road pending. The condition that we have access through. The parking lot of the parking, the parking lot of the parking lot. We're going to make a. Segment to the, to maintain that. Swap. Swale. Perhaps just review of the planning. What do you mean? The review of the. The design work cause it may already be in there. Well, we can review the D. I mean, the Lynn, or we can look at the D. Yes. Just to confirm that we have perpetual access to maintain that. I'll second the motion. Any other comments? Yes. Are we going to put speed limit signs on it? That's separate issue. Yes. Yeah. I was just curious because it's dirty has the stop sign like we said, and then I was just wondering because it's such a short road, dead end road. I mean, like we had conversation with all the other ones. There is, I believe there's a speed limit there now. Yeah. Yeah. And, but that's going to be part of the traffic ordinance and that which is not a compliance of the plan. That's why we're updating the traffic ordinance. I wanted to do it the next meeting, but with the additional items we found it won't be, but it'll be some point later, but putting in the stop sign and the stop limit sign. Right. But it's not in our ordinance. Yeah. So both of those in our ordinance make both of those illegal. Excuse me. Yeah, Joe. Well, just to go back to the first motion, which was seconded and then to, I think that needs to fail. If you're going to do a second motion or she amended. She amended. So we got it. So we got a vote on the amendment. Okay. Then revoked. I'm not revoked, but then vote on the original motion as amended assuming that the amendment passes. I'm good with that. But that was that. Okay. Good to her. And now you know why Paul dealings wants out. Okay. Any other discussion on the amendment? All those in favor? Amendment passes. Now we vote assuming we're ready to vote on it. We vote on the original motion as amended now. Any further discussion on this? All those in favor? Motion passes. There you go. I need to thank you folks. I know it's been a long process. It has for us also. I also want to thank to her especially because he has really been helpful. He's a he's a great guy. Yeah. Lucky we have this right. Wish we could keep him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. So the other issue is the I've been put it a draft of the findings. In your packet, but so take a look at that. I said we don't have to move this one tonight. And it sounds like there may be some proposed additions. That you want in there. And we want to put something about the access. Correct. Yes. That's right. I will move to table the findings. Let's tell the next meeting. Here a second. Second. All those are in the discussion. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. AOT annual certifications. So these are documents. There's two of them in your packet. These are annual certifications. We have to make every year to the state to be eligible for the road funding. First one is that we are standard to meet the state. Town Road and Bridge Standard and the second one is our annual financial plan that we raise at least $300 per mile of class on our case class two and three town highways, which we far exceed that. So I will make the motion to approve both the certification of compliance for town road and bridge standards. And annual financial plan for town by way. And I'll second that. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. So do we want this to say 2014? Oh, that's okay. Wait, I didn't read very closely. That's. Capital improvement plan contest approval. Here again, this is in your packet. Last meeting we awarded the contract for the capital improvement plan to Stone Shore Municipal Consulting. We have received the contracts from them and looking to sign it. They will be meeting with us at our April excuse me, 15th meeting for the kickoff on this project, which is the first step in this process. So I move that we sign the consulting services agreement with Stone Shore Municipal Consulting and authorized to chair to sign on behalf of the board. Your second. All seconds. Any further discussion? Hearing none, those in favor? All right. All right. This is great. Motion carries. Yeah, very. Okay. I'm thankful. And the hey go website. Okay. So I know Rachel and Chelsea, especially have really been struggling with polymorphic and some of the online processes and doing payments in the office. It's not in essence. So much of a challenge on the tax side for me, but they still do ask for a lot and putting new people in. So Chelsea had actually done a lot of the work and looking at hey go we met with them about potentially switching for the credit card payments. I think their system is going to be a bit easier to use in the office. It also comes with a card reader for payments, which we don't have now. So every time we put in a card, we're manually typing it in, which can bring up some errors in doing that. Not that we've had any, but it's just the potential for it. It just seems to be a simpler system. They do have QR codes. So if you get a utility bill, you can then as some scan that QR code and it will pop it up. I think it's going to offer pretty much the same things as polymorphic just on an easier base on full sides for residents and us. We said with the delinquent taxes, there's difficulty in also allocating a payment to which payment versus current payments and so right now if you go on the website to make a payment, you can pay your next quarter installment that's been uploaded from your original July tax bill or you can pay the entire amount of your tax bill. So if you got a revised tax bill in August or September, you're not paying the correct amount either paying more or paying less. You don't have the option. If you have late interest in penalty, it's not an easy way to go in and add that in. You can't just add an amount because the link leads solely to 2023 taxes. So as the newbie, can you back up and tell me what you are using? What would you use it for? What are you currently using the other system for? And what would this be used for? And then what's the difference in cost? So what we use polymorphic for right now is any credit card payments. Okay. And you can pay anything by credit card for certificates, dog licenses, taxes, sewer and water bill, excess weight permits, any of it you can pay through that. They also created some fillable forms for us on the website. They don't work all the time. Sometimes they don't work well at all. And you have trouble getting like help from them, right? Is that true? Yeah. Yeah, some of the time it's difficult. There are concerns that we've brought up in the process. How much information you have to put in when you go into polymorphic. They want name, address, phone number, email address. And we don't need that information. It's just kind of there. I mean, it's a whole data sharing thing at work. I'm just just sits in there. So they have integrated some of those forms onto the website, but they don't live. We were there. Yeah. So with those forms, you can in essence request like a birth certificate or a dog license on there. And sometimes we get alerted. Sometimes they don't. I know Chelsea said there are things that don't pop up when they're in there. We were going to use it for different interoffice communications. So when we were starting the tax sales process, we could log phone calls, log the conversation. And the idea of that was that you could tag other people with it, which you can't do. So I would go in start a case, put down what I said, and then end up sending Diane an email or going down and saying, Hey, if this person calls, this is a conversation that we had. Because I could not add her to it. And I still can't add people to that case. So in essence, we're not using it in that way. I think polymorphic is a good concept, but it's just very clunky in its operation. And it's not ready for prime time yet. What's the annual cost of that anyway? I want to say it's like 43. I think that's what we paid the last time. I know because they haven't built us for a while. Yeah, but your original set up was around 16 or 19,000. How long have we used that? Since 2000, I mean, since 2021. Yeah, 2021 or 2022. I had them create a, you know, I've got the master, actually Tom had it, the master email to send out agendas to, you know, we send it out to about 90 people. And so I had polymorphic make an email list for me using those addresses. And so Friday, when I sent out the agendas to that list, I used that to polymorphic supposed to, you know, just doing it and all of the Gmail addresses bounced back because it didn't appear to be coming from Berlin, VT.gov. It came from some Amazon cloud thing, which was Blacklist and stuff. So I mean, it's just, you don't want that. Right. We've had a lot of confusion with people paying taxes. So if they have the additional three digits in their partial ID, so like a dash 100 on the tax bill, it says dot 100. So when people go in to put it in and polymorphic, you have to use a dash. So a lot of people will call polymorphic has gone down twice during tax payment weeks on tax payment day where people have not been able to log in because they've been doing updates. And it took a few conversations to get them to not do that because people are having problems and it's not a problem of the wrong partial ID. For a while, there were partial IDs that weren't in there. So you would in essence have to use somebody else's partial ID when you could enter an amount last year. So when it would pop up, it would show the wrong partial ID, which confused people because that's not their ID. So we just had one today where a transaction showed up that it was reconciled in there, but it was never reconciled. So it wasn't put in because it showed up that it was and it wasn't. So which went through updating that. So I think in essence, hey, God can do the same. Things we can do all the payments for everything. They come with a carburetor. If we want to get an additional one, we can do that. And they will file swap with number. So we can go back and forth instead of printing a report and manually entering it in. And is this geared toward, I am assuming geared toward government entities. You know, have you talked to any municipal government? Yep. Have you talked to anybody else that uses it? Tonal Castleton uses it. They're pleased with it. I checked with them last week. Looking on the back page, you know, some of their examples. You know, utility bill payments, property tax payments, donations, one of the things we're going to be talking about at their next meeting is a request from the REC committee, a new youth sports, I want to say forum, but taking that from the schools, but managing that for the schools and having an online donation system, which would be able to do dog licensing, liquor licensing, especially event permits, utility service requests, reservations for like the town hall, sports fields. And the big thing is the bottom on there, the 3-1-1, which is where residents can go in and put in, you know, a request for all the potholes and stuff like that. And all the back could get routed to Tim and they can check on the status of it and get reported back when things were repaired. So it's does a lot of things that I think the functionality we can take advantage of now and in the near future. Polymorphic when asked about the possibility of looking at card readers, you know, they say, well, be at the end of the year at the earliest and probably into next year, you know, this day and age is just not realistic. You know, that should have been one of the first things that they came up with. Especially now with how all the new debit cards are, they're not raised numbers anymore. They're just ink printed on and they wear off. So then you can't read the number of the card. So if I'm looking at this, I see two different packages. Is that correct? So and I would yes, and I would I would recommend the package to for the $5,000 plus the $2,000 one time set up. And we do have money set aside from ARPA funds for polymorphic. So I would recommend taking it from there. Are there any cancellation fees regarding polymorphic? No, but I've seen you know, you'll find out. We'll pay by credit card. And the nice thing is is polymorphic this so when people, a lot of times people will call and say that they're confused when they click on it because it takes it ends up taking them to Stripe so they don't necessarily know what it is. Where with Hague of they can just have an app on their phone that they go into and just do what they need to do with that. So are you saying that strength is actually the payment processor? So the Hague of must use the payment processor to they're not one, are they? Yeah, I'm not sure. Um, you might want to find out who actually processes between them. Only because it doesn't really matter. Is any of the information in polymorphic is that the stored there? Is there any issue with the public like is I'm just thinking from a public workers perspective, is anything stored in that system? And if it is, are we going to get? Are they going to allow us to somehow so that information any payments that are stored in there? Are printed? Okay, so it doesn't store like any of the like any is no actual record stored in that system. Okay, good. We have we use systems at work where the record is actually the record of the transaction. So I just want to make sure that there's nothing about like that in the polymorphic. So they put up they basically we printed out in a report and it says, you know, what it was date, the amount who paid it and then we print that out. Okay, and that goes with what gets put in to the system to record it. Do you also use QuickBooks here because I see it integrates with no. You do say all packages include an accounting information. And they specifically said and I'm Rick. Yeah, that's great. That's great. President, I'm not going to be able to handle it. That's awesome. Sounds good. So fortunate that we stuck those to the other ones. But I guess that's done. Hey, the motion to switch. I make the motion to move forward with the switch from polymorphic to the Hague of using our funds using our funds and to allow tour Nelson to move forward with that process. We're second. I'll second that any other any other discussion on it. Not those in favor. I motion carries pain turnpike north repairs update on temporary bridge. So there is a spin of emails in your packet. Tim's checked with the state. Well, that Joel Perrigo with the Municipal Assistance Bureau and Sven Scribner. The bridge. Not sure what is actual tighter bridge maintenance engineer. And at the bottom of the first page continue into the second page is the specifications looking at a two-way temporary bridge 90 feet in length. The rental price, which would be $278 per month, which is doable for whatever the cost to install would be roughly $325,000. And then to remove it would be another 50 to $75,000. So an old photo we're looking at close to $400,000 for this project and was it Joel or Sven? So they would not be reimbursed. No reversible. We're not all developer reimbursement. It's all out of pocket. I appreciate them coming out my first inclination based on everything is it's cost prohibitive as much as I'd like to see it happen. It drives me nuts because I live right there and I say no. That's the one money to spend on a temporary bridge. The day of the pre-town meeting residents had come forward to me with the idea. Oh, yeah. I was really for it. Yeah, just had no idea would be at this cost. Unfortunately. I don't think that's a good use of the town's money. I appreciate all the time and effort now having them come. A lot of who have been involved. Thanks for a week. You guys are coming together. So good for you. Those guys are very helpful, appreciative. So I could see what you would work well as a team. I know both of them from being there and Sven went out on Friday midday. Mind you to look at it and do the same visit. So yeah, they're both extremely knowledgeable and it's great that the three of you could do that together. Yeah, it's a good idea. It seems doesn't seem to be cost benefit doesn't seem to be there for me. Motion. We have to have one. I don't think we do act on it as long as we don't act on it. Yeah. Show your face on our part. Any other discussion on this item? If not, can treasure to assume our department bookkeeping? So I mentioned at the last meeting that we've been in discussions with the department about taking over their bookkeeping for the department that we didn't feel would be huge lift for the treasure department with the limits of the amount of work it would create. So we did submit a proposal over to the department that they discussed the last week and that came back with some additional questions, which most of them were answer ball. But one day, you know, first of all that they brought up was, you know, would these records be subject to the Public Records Act? And there's never an easy answer for that, but more than likely, yes, they would be or probably should operate on the assumption that they would be. But then the attorney for the league, there's this document in your packet on the back at the very bottom, you know, raised to concern that we do not actually have the authority in our charter to do this and, you know, getting back to being a dental and state and Ryan, I sent you this by email. I don't know if you've had a chance to look at it either yet today or not. Ryan Byer, the president of the fire department is also online. That, you know, without the specific grant in our charter or through state statutes, we're not authorized to do that and being a Dylan rule state basically means the only authorities we have comes to us from the state legislature either through, you know, the comprehensive state statutes or specifically given to us through the town charter, neither of which applies for in this case. So, you know, they are recommending against this. I have also sent a email to our insurance just to see what their thoughts. I've not heard back, but it sounds like it would not be any claims to not be covered under our current insurance policy. So in order to give some direction to the fire department, I'd recommend that we pass on this at this time and, you know, give them the option to make any other arrangements they need to at this point. Anything you want to add, Ryan, or I know it's not the direction we want to go in, but without the legal forward, I think it's what we should. Ryan, you're muted if you're. Oh, yeah, no, I agree with you. I think there's some some tape there that probably came for us. I concur given this additional information that moves us to not go this route at this time. And like you said to her, although we would like to if it were different scenarios. So understand. Yeah. Okay. Anything else on this? Just on a side note, the kind of related the fire department merger study committee would like to come and meet with us and we've got them tentatively penciled in for our April 15th meeting. So. Okay. Anything else? You know. Okay, licenses, permits, vouchers, applications, Lawrence. I make the motion to approve payroll warrant 24-21 for payroll from March 10th to March 23rd, 2024 to be paid on March 27th, 2024 in the amount of $66,676.40 and payable warrant 24G22 with check number 23819 to 23873 in the amount of $285,352.07 and the Berlin Volunteer Fire Department Selectsmen's Orders from February of this year. Oh, a second. Any other discussion on this? Very none. Those in favor? Motion carries. 20 approval minutes. Okay, we got March 18th, 2024 in your packet. I make the motion to approve the Monday March 18th, 2024 minutes as presented. Your second. Thank you all a little bit here. I'm leaving out to Joe because I'm outstanding. I'm leaving us to Joe since I was like, any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. I abstain. Any abstainment? Yes. Just because I haven't read them, they're fine. Be honest. Here, so I at least wanted to see what it should arrive. Motion carries. A correction through the 919, 22 minutes. So this is the sort of nuts from hell, I think, like that bad money just won't go away. The big concern was the approval of the police department union contract and so I was going to check for notes as to if she found anything. I did not find it. Now, looking for ideas, anybody else? Well, I guess we could just put in there generically was moved and seconded. And we just not bring it back to the back to the board to review and approve. I mean, not the minutes, of course, because we don't have it. I check on that. I mean, without getting creative, right? We just bring it back. Well, the other thing is. That the as and we've discussed this previously that the contract is going to be up next year and the board is looking at it and the union is looking at a one-year extension to that. And we are meeting Friday. It looks to be to start discussing that process. So maybe I'll bring it up then. I don't know. So are you going to be available that day? Okay. I'll copy. I'm going to double check, but I'm pretty certain people three thirty. I'll copy you in on that. So we'll have some more love and idea on that then. Next week or next meeting, but then there were a couple other. These three other three other items that need to be correct. We're not right. That was the biggest. Watch the meeting. It's cut off. Ah, before that we had to ask you to discuss the budget. The contract and we said the whole because we didn't know how long the meeting was going to run. The only exited and accepted. Gotcha. However. We had to sign off on the yeah, of course. So, you know, you voted on it. Yeah, just we don't have it in the minute. Well, and it seems as though this is clearly indicating that no, I tried to buy it. Oh, you did. Oh, somebody else did that. And I assume these were was this Vince's minutes? I don't know. I'm just curious because I'm just wanting we can't ask him because he's not. I mean, is it possible that Vince would have notes? Has he been approached? Okay. I looked at it. I didn't see anything. Well, you wouldn't have signed it if you didn't vote on it. So there's no question. Right. Yeah. Just it was not in the minutes. Yeah. Yeah. That's unfortunate. I really the only issue is. The. The beamers group C wants to see in the minutes where it was approved to process the group C versions. It's too bad. They wouldn't accept just the the sign copy. Right. Yeah. I mean, would you rather have it? In the minutes or we're going to have a copy of the same of the sign copy or the. Do they have that? Can you try that? Or they said, did they say they wanted the minutes there? So I guess no action on the 19th. Okay. Any extended sessions? Yes. We've got around to it first thing. So, okay. Around able to. Nothing this evening. Thank you, Bill. Yo. Yeah. So the 1st can got the church up here. Congregational church. There you go. They're doing an eclipse lunch box. I don't know if you saw that. I saw it when I drove by now. If you're going to be taking in the sights of the eclipse, you can stop up there and pick up a lunch box at 11, between 1130 and 1. The fire department had to reschedule their pie breakfast. So it'll be the 6th of this. I was going to show up last Saturday, right? I looked on Facebook Saturday. Oh, it's not till next week. Yeah, 930, 930 to 12. And I just want to put it put a thanks out to all the mutual aid departments that came to a structure fire in Berlin, which was up on Hill Street extension. First on scene were the 1st to I'm going to say paid departments, Montpelier and Berry. I would also like to say thank you to those fire departments. I will do that another way too. But yes, does the traffic lights by the hospital, the 62 Airport Fisher Road not have signal preemption? They do. Okay. Because apparently it didn't work. So Berry City unit go through there and they didn't get the lights and sirens and it did not give them 62 and Fisher. Yeah. They were. They were coming they were coming across on on Airport Road, Fisher Road, that direction. I would like to think they would work. I can tell you they work when we leave from going down 62 going down 62 never had to use them coming back. We'll do we'll check on that. Thank you. Okay, anything tour? Couple things in your packet. Well, first of all, we've received quite a bit of funding from the senators, both the senator Sanders and Senator Gerelt in the recently passed. Many of us appropriations bill. Thanks to Senator Sanders. We've received $1.6 million for pedestrian infrastructure in the new town center development. And thanks to Senator Welch we've received 865,000 and funding for the main pump station route 302. So I've drafted a press release to your packet. Acknowledging this fact. So you wanted to take a thought I saw something outside but maybe I'm just seeing things. Take away any thoughts and let me know. I've also sent it to the senator. Both senators offices to take a look at this as well. So this is exciting. It is very to receive both of these projects and we want to get the word out on that. Yeah, maybe they put a quote in that would be nice. It might be nice if they added a quote either senators. Yeah, okay. That's wonderful. Yeah. Next item is this Thursday the 4th. The town hall and the fire station will be receiving a energy audit to come and get the energy efficiency of both buildings and stuff. It's been the also an all day process taking both buildings. So look forward to receiving some recommendations from there. Then lastly, there's a set of plans here for the development review board for two parcels at the mall. One is outlaw D and the other is outlaw F. F is going to be a restaurant and outlaw D is going to be retail space. So I don't remember the exact date of that hearing, but they're here. Do you want to look at that? I know there's a lot of them coming up. I can't keep them. Because tomorrow night is on the agenda. So might be the love month based on it. And we do it. And we do like to have large number of comments for them as well. It's all I have. Carla. Oh, I want to do Joe on the fire fire department. That was my mother's house. So I greatly appreciate all the efforts that went into they did their best to save the main house and still standing but I may have to be torn down, but it's still standing. The only thing I wanted to say was I would really I really think that we should and I've been talking about this for a long time. Have more conversations with some of the other committees and I've encouraged that there potentially be at least one meeting a year where all the committees get together, whether it be a dinner, something at the grains or something where we invite everybody, but all the members of the volunteers and members of the committees to get together and do some sort of program. And in addition to that, I think we should seek to get either the, you know, I know Tom serves three committees, reports, maybe quarterly. I just feel like there's a disconnect between what happens in the committees and what happens at the select board until something, you know, sort of rises to the top and I think it's good for all the committees to know what's happening and to work together. And you know, in my last year on the planning commission, we collaborated with the rec committee. They come we'd have a joint meeting and it was really informative to me to find out all the things that they were doing. So I think that we should maybe look into to doing something like that. And I plan to service a liaison to the planning commission. I think that's a valuable like if I don't know other people want to do that for a committee, but I plan to do it for the planning commission. And of course, core and I are both on the DRB. So that's easy. So I'm not. Oh, you're not. No. Oh, you're an alternate. No, are you done? I'm done. Oh, great. I'll teach you how that's done. So anyway, just that's my two seven. We do need two alternates on the DRP. So just bring that out there. So that's my comment. So I'll talk to maybe two or a little bit. Maybe we can formalize a plan. Okay. And we have executive session. We do. I move to enter into executive session for personnel under one VSA 313. Yeah. Second that. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. We're now in regular session. So no action was taken in the executive session and I move to adjourn. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor. Aye. Aye. We are adjourned.