 de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. 24 News es on-going coverage of Israel at war. A fragile and temporary ceasefire has been extended by two days to exchange more hostages for security prisoners. A deal that will see 20 more abducted women and children released by the Hamas terror organization and 60 more convicted terrorists freed by Israel. Qatar and the United States have confirmed the details, though Israel says, there is no deal until it actually happens. 11 more hostages were released last night. Nine of them were children. All of their fathers, though, remain in captivity. All the children are in stable condition according to Ecolav Hospital. The one, Yuval Engel, is reportedly in a wheelchair from his injuries. All of the hostages were taken to the hospital en helicopters where they were reunited with their families and all of them were from Kibbutz near Odez. But there are still nearly 60 women and children that have not been released yet and reportedly Hamas does not even know where they all are, having passed them to crime families and other unknown entities. That includes the 10-month-old baby fair Bebas, which IDF Intelligence suggests was traded by Hamas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip. Local Channel 12 reports that one of the released hostages revealed that in the early days of the war they were taken to Kanyunas, where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader Yahya Sinwar, who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in Hebrew. Military intelligence also exposing the depth of the preparation failures leading to the massacres. According to Haaretz, IDF Intelligence NCOs had warned about the massacre months in advance, one saying that signal intelligence had intercepted communications of Hamas training drill for October 7, a drill that ended with a terrorist claiming to have killed all residents of the Kibbutzim storm and showing the genocidal intent behind Hamas's operation. These warnings were ignored. The family of Hadas Calderon, whose children have now been released, but whose husband still remains in Hamas's hands, said the following regarding the extended hostage deal. Hi, I'm Ido with the Calderon family. Our sweet 16-years-old Sahar y nuestros maravillosos 12-years-old heredas han regresado a nosotros, seguramente. Hemos escuchado que vienen a las puertas y van directamente a ser examinados por los doctores. Esto es un día momentáneo en nuestras vidas. Estamos cansados de excitamiento, pero no hemos yet fully processed lo que ha sucedido. En fin, creo que es difícil de ir desde un estado de desagradable ansiedad sobre su fe a un estado de desgracia y joven. Creo que va a llevar tiempo. Esto es un momento emocionante y difícil de sentir. Pero también entendemos que es el principio de un proceso de rehabilitación difícil por Sahar y Ares, que todavía es joven y que ha sido una experiencia inundable. Más que nada, nos pregunto por la segura y rápida recuperación de nuestro amor, Ofer Calderón, Sahar y Ares' padre, que todavía está en peligro. Y, por supuesto, la rápida recuperación de todos los niños que han desaparecido es una prioridad nacional. Y para más, ahora vamos a nuestro correspondiente, Pierre Kloschenler, que está por la hospital de Iqalaf en Tel Aviv. Pierre, ¿qué sabemos de la condición de estos hospitales? Ellos dicen que son estabiles, pero uno de ellos es en una cadena de injeras. Right, we don't know much. We just know that they arrived here and what they have in common. Five families amongst all the children and the mothers. The fathers are missing, they're still in captivity, that's what's in common between them. They all come from Kibbutz Nachal Oz, which was the site of one of the worst massacres, something like over 100 people killed, 77 abducted, 49 are remaining in Hamas captivity. We know they came back at around 12, 30 here at this hospital. And the only details that we have stem from the laconic message of Professor Drow Mendel, the head of the children's hospital at Iqalaf. Let's listen to him. Nine children and two mothers were admitted to the Tel Aviv Medical Center, Iqalaf. After they were freed from Hamas captivity. Upon their arrival to Iqalaf, an initial medical examination was performed in order to assess their medical condition and to start with evaluation and treatment. We can say at this point that all our children and mothers are in a stable medical condition and we will further on continue with medical evaluation. Right now they are spending time with their families in a quiet environment and we want them to be with their families in order to provide a quiet environment and a supportive system in order to ease their come to Israel. And thank you very much to Pierre Kleschen there for that update on the status of our now returned children. Now for more though, we are going to turn to another one of our correspondents, Robert Swift, who is standing by at what's become known as Hostages Square in Tel Aviv. Robert, what are families saying as of today this deal, the ceasefire for hostages being extended? 20 more Israelis slated to come home over the next two days. Yes, that's right. We're just around the corner from Iqalaf Hospital where Pierre was talking to you from. Something that is very consistent when families are speaking following the release of their hostages is the fact that while they are understandably filled with joy, filled with relief, many of them are nonetheless still waiting for additional releases. It's worth noting that so far only children and women have been released, but that many of the families that have had hostages released still have family members in captivity, their male relations. Now one of the family members of one of the hostages, Moran Aloni, who last night had her sister and two nieces released from captivity, she made a comment regarding her brother-in-law who still remains in captivity and she said, our war is not over, we're still missing one piece of the family Jigsaw and so many other families puzzles are missing pieces. This is not over. And this raises the point that as Hamas continues to release these hostages, there are still many male relatives left over, but there is some hope that as increasingly women and children are being returned, Hamas will need, in order to continue providing hostages, that it will need to release some of these male family members. Now, there are a number of elderly men in captivity and the assumption is that Hamas is likely to release these individuals first, as opposed to younger men who may be considered of fighting age. And so there are many families who are hoping that in the coming days it's possible if the two days of this extension of the ceasefire, if it were to continue, that some of these family members will see their loved ones return to them as well. Robert, we're hearing at the same time that there are somewhere between 40 and 60 hostages being held, not by Hamas, but by unknown factions, crime families, private individuals, not to mention some by the Islam at Jihad. While the IDF holds Hamas responsible for all of them, ¿is there actually any plan or negotiating position to access any of these hostages too? That's right. So presently, Palestinian Islamic Jihad are understood to hold the lion's share of these additional hostages. But as you said, there are others which are held by unknown individuals or organizations within the Gaza Strip. Now, Hamas doesn't have, it can't directly order these groups to release these hostages, but it does have a large amount of influence over them. It's unclear at this stage to what extent Hamas is in negotiations with these other groups, essentially to ask them to take part in the exchanges of hostages and prisoners that's taking place at the moment. You can assume that Hamas will not want to hand over all the hostages that it holds without first making sure that the other armed groups within Gaza also take part in that. It's also, you can also assume that there will be a distinction made between the civilian hostages that Hamas has and with the soldiers it has. It's unlikely to want to begin releasing soldier hostages that it has before the other civilian hostages in the Gaza Strip have been handed over. But for the time being, it remains unclear as to how cooperative these other groups within the Gaza Strip are likely to be. Some of them is worth noting are, you could say, more extreme than Hamas. Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the past has been more antagonistic towards Israel than even Hamas has been. And so it's possible that Hamas will essentially have to strong arm it in order to get it to cooperate. But at the moment, as I say, this remains unclear. Very significant operational challenges going forward. Thank you very much, Robert, for that report from Hostages Square. Now, despite extending the ceasefire, Israel's government is insistent that war is the only method and it's only temporarily paused. Defense Minister Yoav Galant has warned troops that they will face stiff resistance from Hamas who has taken the opportunity to fortify positions and reestablish chains of command during the ceasefire. We don't stop until we finish the task. You now have days, get organized, rest, train, arrange your vests, organize your equipment, talk to your girlfriends at home and your parents. We will return to fighting. We will use the same strength and more. This is the task now. Remember that while you are organizing and resting and researching, the enemy is also doing the same. You will not meet the same resistance that was at the end, but something that will be more prepared. We will know how to walk with them. And we're going to go to studio where our correspondent, Ariel Ocerán, is standing by to address some of the hostages' things that we've seen come out over the past few days. One of the interesting aspects is Hamas' information war that they're playing, showing videos where they're making hostages' wave, not showing to the press as the part with the sound where they're ordering them at gunpoint to wave, but are these having an effect on the international press? Right, I think you're referring to the second video where the hostages were in... or the first video where they were instructed to wave and you could hear it and that explains why the next video that was released was muted because they're learning as they go. Look, Hamas understands very well that the international opinion, public opinion regarding the aspect of also the atrocities they committed on October 7th, but that's not still ongoing. The hostage issue is still ongoing and images of them returning three-year-old twins in the middle of the night, or an 11-year-old girl who is that we're seeing right now on the screen, Yuval Engel. She was healthy when she woke up on October 7th, but now she's released in a wheelchair. All these are trying to reduce as much as possible the public backlash because these images no sane human being can watch these images and not get emotional, especially if you're a parent. I mean, nine kids out of 11 hostages just in yesterday's group of those who are released. And so they're working very hard to try and show that they're as humane as possible, quote-unquote, it's clear, psychological warfare. I mean, the fact that they're giving them bottles, that they're waving, that they have smiling. Now, the scene that we just saw, they're reading names in a very calm way. I mean, all this is in an attempt to show that they are a legitimate organization that carried out a legitimate operation and now they're continuing to conduct themselves in a legitimate fashion. But we all know that that is not the case. Everyone who sees these images, their heart is broken to see footage of young children that many of their parents were either killed or still remain hostage in Gaza because we have to remember, while these four waves of released hostages and what's expected also, these next two waves, these are women and children. And of course, they are prioritized or I just believe that they should be prioritized first. But one cannot forget the fact that the fathers, the grandfathers, the male siblings, they stayed behind. And this is something that has a lot of hostage families concerned moving forward, regardless of the psychological warfare and propaganda that Hamas has continuously carried out since October 7th, obviously leading up to October 7th. And as far as their actions on the ground are concerned, they don't intend to stop anytime soon. I want to bring another voice into this now, Ariane. That would be Professor Kobe Michael, Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies. Kobe, thank you very much for being with us. I want to open with the hostage situation because that is the key news that we're talking about. We've seen a deal for 50, it's been extended to make a total of 70 hostages, something like 30 Thai nationals as well in the balance. Hamas is still going to be holding at least 60% of hostages at the end of this, including all the men and all of the soldiers. Ultimately, what is Israel likely going to have to give to get them back? Good morning. First of all, with your permission, I would like to refer in a very short sentence with regard to the information war, which is conducted by Hamas, and to add that I think that what we saw yesterday and the day before yesterday, all the staging of the event is a signal for the Gazans themselves with regard to the presence of Hamas and its functionality, and the signal to the Israeli constituency that Hamas is still there and it is not defeated, and we have taken into consideration. With regard to your question, I would say that there is not such a big difference between a four day truce or a seven day truce. In both cases, it works not in our favor, but if another two or three days of truce will enable us to release more hostages, then it should be done, but we must be prepared to the resumption of the war because we have to accomplish the mission in the entire Gaza Strip, not only in the northern parts, because otherwise, if we were not accomplished the mission, we are going to take huge problems, not only in the Gaza Strip, but in all the other fronts as well. I wanna continue on that very line of reasoning because we have had Yav Galant coming out and saying the war is not over yet. That Israel will face much heavier resistance now that Hamas has been able to restore lines of communication, re-entrench themselves, fortified positions. Ultimately, what is it going to take to resume the war now that Israel has lost its momentum? It requires good operational plans. It requires determination and it requires a very good intelligence. I think that all of the three are there and the only, I would say, barrier in front of the resumption of the war is the decisions that should be made by the Israeli government. The IDF is ready. I think that the Israeli public is very determined and understands that this is something that must be done. And now we have to face the international pressures, the most important pressure and the most influential one is the American pressure. And they hope that the Israeli government will be able to arrange things with the American administration in order to accomplish the mission. Kobe, we keep on talking about what's next in the war because I think everybody in the security establishment has the same idea and the same agreement that the war is far from over and has to be continued at just about all cost. But what will happen next? In the first month and a half, Israel encircles Gaza City but still holds less than 20% of the territory of the Gaza Strip. There's a lot more fortified positions and Hamas has its strongholds in Kanyunis. Ultimately, what is the coming month going to look like? I think that not the coming months, the immediate phase of the resumption of the war should be taken in Kanyunis and the Rafa areas in addition to the northern part of the Gaza Strip. And I think that we have to understand that in order to paralyze Hamas, in order to collapse the organization from the military and the governmental point of view, it doesn't mean that we have to reach to the last terrorist and to the last trope. It means that we have to paralyze the main or the most significant centers of gravity. I think that we know where are these centers of gravity located and we have to reach them and to paralyze them. Now, it will take time. It will be, I think, in a less intensive manner in comparison to the last six weeks, but it should be done very cautiously, slowly, very patiently, but it should be done. It must be done. Now, Coby, stay on the line with us because I'm going to go back for a short question to our Aria Osaran in studio because it's not just Gaza as a front and it's not just Lebanon either. We've seen all of Iran's other proxies in the region ramping up their attacks, particularly the Houthis with their attacks on international shipping. Ultimately, how much of an effect is this going to have on the war as they are trying their best to divert attention away from Gaza to other fronts? Well, there's the question, how it affects the war in Gaza and there's a question, how it affects Israel's security at large. I think in terms of its effect on Israel's war in Gaza, Israel so far has managed to isolate the operation in Gaza to prevent the different escalation on the border or pretty much the war on the northern border that has subdued. It is on the lower level of warfare and exchange of gun, of fire across the border, but it's a war for all senses and purposes. Yeah, I mean, that hasn't affected the war in Gaza. Neither has the attacks from Yemen nor missiles from Iraq all remind you and stuff that's going on, different launches from Syria. That has not affected the war in Gaza, but it does affect Israel's positional posture, security posture and standing in the region. I would believe at least if we're taking Israeli military and political leaders at face value saying that they will respond in due time. We know that as far as the threat from Hezbollah, you have tens of thousands of residents from the north saying that they're not planning on returning to their homes until not necessarily a similar solution for Hamas is employed on Hezbollah, but indeed to push them away from the border that is not connected to the objectives in Gaza, but in terms of the current position that Israel is in, it will have to give some answer to what's going on in the northern border. Militaramente, it will also have to respond to what's going on in Yemen. Does that affect directly what's going on in Gaza? At this point, no. And that's why I want to turn back to you, Kobe, because our correspondent just explained the different factions on the different axes and the different fronts, but ultimately Israel will have to deal with them as well. As you said yourself, the message Israel sends in Gaza is the message that will be sent to all these other Iranian proxies. So the question is, when and how does Israel deal with them? Mentaling Hamas. This is the most important condition. First of all, for the regional players, who are, I would say, expecting that Israel will accomplish the mission. Although they are continuing, paying leaps service with regard to the Palestinian issue. We understand pretty well what is the real interest of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Morocco. All of them just fear that if we will not accomplish the mission and Hamas will not be responsible, then they will have to face and to tackle very severe threats from the Muslim Brotherhood in their countries. So first of all, we have to do that. Then we have to return to the process of building the new regional architecture that eventually will be the basis for everything here in the region, including the Palestinian issue, including the reconstruction of the Palestinian entity in the Gaza Strip and in the West Bank. And then only such a regional architecture that will be a very strong coalition and security alliance will be able to weaken the Iranian axis here in the entire region in the broader Middle East. I want to continue on this topic, but I want to address directly the issue of Lebanon and Hezbollah, Kobe. And that's because while we're talking about Hamas and them being the primary theater of war, Hezbollah is still a bigger threat. They still have much bigger arsenals and a much bigger military wing. They've also managed to completely depopulate Israel's north, effectively capturing the territory by driving Israelis out of it. This war needs a resolution that also deals with that. Otherwise, isn't Israel just kicking the can down the road for another five years while Hezbollah gathers more strength? Yes, I do agree with you. And I think that once again, if we will accomplish successfully the mission in the Gaza Strip, it will be much easier for Israel and the United States to impose on the Lebanese government and on Hezbollah to realize the resolution 1701, which means that all of Hezbollah troops will withdraw to the Litany River, to the Litany Line. If we will not be able to decide the war in the Gaza Strip, it will be much more complicated and we will find ourselves sooner or later in a full scale war with Hezbollah. But on that very topic, even if they withdraw past that line, they still exist, they're still gathering strength. Isn't that just another form of delay? It is, but it will provide us and going back to the idea that I have introduced before with regard to the regional architecture, then it will be much easier to tackle that because Hezbollah will become to be not only a threat for Israel, but for the entire regional architecture. Israel will not be alone in this regard. But yes, you are right. This is a kind of a delay, but this is a controlled delay. I think that it will be better for Israel not to be dragged to a full scale war now before accomplishing the mission in the Gaza Strip. But generally speaking, I think that at the end of the day, we will be involved in a full scale war with Hezbollah because this is a threat that the sovereign state, not only Israel cannot tolerate. Y muy brevemente, porque nos estamos hablando de la arquitectura regional, ¿espemos realmente los partners regionales para hacer operaciones de grado contra las proxias iranianas? Es en su interés, pero no hemos visto nada. No estoy seguro de que necesitaríamos eso. Una vez que haya una arquitectura regional, esto será la respuesta ultima a la excesa de los iranianos y por tener una alianza de seguridad con el San Com, el San Com americano, creo que este alianzo será capaz de llevar a cualquier iraniano. Bueno, esperamos que sea el caso. Coby, muchas gracias a ti por esa separación de seguridad para nosotros. Y Ariel, muchas gracias a ti por tu análisis aquí en el estudio. Para todos los demás, estamos fuera de tiempo, pero nos vemos en el próximo broadcast a 9 de la tarde local en solo una mitad de la hora. Así que no olvides, por eso, pero hasta luego, gracias por ver. Hay frases que sabes desde dónde vienen. Ve acá. Y el paquete y copa cuándo. Y recargas que ya sabes hacia dónde van. En vía recargas internacionales, Altis, a tu gente NRD. Accede a nuestra página web, recargas.altis.com.b o selecciona recargas y digita el número al que deseas colocarle la recarga. Además, ellos reciben el doble de balanza en recargas de 8 dólares o más. Altis, la red global de los dominicanos. Es en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente abiertas en sus caballos. No tenemos ni idea de lo que sea. Los soldados están peleando en la línea frontal, pero la percepción general es algo que certamente necesita ser creado también. 24 Nuzes, ongo y cobertura de Israel en guerra. Un frágil y temprano que ha sido extendido por dos días para intercambiar más hostes para los prisioneros de seguridad. Una de las que verán 20 mujeres y niños abiertas por la organización de terror de Hamas y 60 más teroristas convirtidas por Israel. Catar en Estados Unidos han confirmado los detalles, aunque Israel dice que no hay problema hasta que actualmente ocurra. 11 más hostes fueron lanzados los últimos 9 niños. Todos sus padres permanecen en captividad. Todos los niños están en condición según el hospital de Iklav. Luan Yuval Engel está en un círculo de la injera. Todos los hostes fueron llevados al hospital en los helicópteros donde se reunieron con sus familias. Todos ellos también son de Kibbutz, cerca de Oze. Pero hay todavía 60 mujeres y niños que no han sido lanzados y reporta que Hamas no even sabe donde más de ellos son, que han pasado a las familias del crimen y otras entidades desconocidas, incluyendo el 10-a-month-old bebé, Fierbibas, madre y sibling, que la inteligencia de IDF fue tratada por Hamas a otro grupo de terrorista en la Gaza Strip. Local Channel 12 reporta que uno de los hostes reveló que en los últimos días de la guerra fueron llevados a San Junis, donde fueron metidos en los tunnelos de la lídera de Hamas, Yaquia Sinwar, que interagó a ellos por sus identidades y les dijo a ellos en Hebron. La inteligencia militar ha expuesto la muerte de los fallidos preparados contra las mascaras. Según las reportes de Haaretz, IDF inteligencia, NCOs, han muerto sobre las mascaras en avance, uno diciendo que la inteligencia de signal hubiera interceptado las comunicaciones de la drill de Hamas para el 7 de octubre. Una drill que terminó con los terroristas que decían que han matado a todos los residentes de la estación de Kibbutzim, y que ha mostrado el intento genocidal tras la operación de Hamas. Estas noticias fueron ignoradas. Ahora vamos a nuestro correspondiente, Robert Swift, que está estando por la escena de Hostage Square en Tel Aviv. Robert, ¿qué está pasando ahí ahora que estamos escuchando sobre una extensión a la escena de Hostage para lanzar 20 más mujeres y niños. Esta locación, que se ha convertido en la escena de Hostage Square, es muy un punto focal para las ideas y la esperanza de los israelíos públicos con respecto a los hostages. Ahora que yet another batch of hostages have been released, the focus is beginning to turn slightly towards the men who remain captive inside the Gaza Strip and also to the groups besides Hamas that are holding prisoners. Now, so far only women and children have been released, but many of those who have been returned back to Israel still have family members, their fathers and their husbands trapped inside the Gaza Strip. Now, as Hamas continues to release hostages, it is hoped that possibly some of these men will be released as it works its way through those that it holds. This is likely to start, first of all, with older men, but there does remain hopes in the public that the younger men, the fathers of many of the children who have recently been released, that they too will be released. Now, it's also the focus of the Israeli public is beginning to switch, not just to Hamas, which of course controls the Gaza Strip and is the most powerful armed group inside that territory, but also to the other factions there, many of whom also are holding hostages. Now, the most powerful of these is Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which is reported to hold around 40 hostages, but there are other groups besides individuals and gangs who are understood to also be controlling hostages. And at this stage, it remains unclear how these disparate groups will tie into the ongoing ceasefire and the hostage exchange, which is a part of this, as they themselves are not a direct party to it. It's definitely a challenge going forward, operationally, practically and politically. Robert, thank you very much for that report from Hostages Square. Now, for more, though, we are joined here in studio by Colonel Jack Nariot, former deputy head of assessment with Israeli military intelligence. Jack, this hostage situation has effectively put the entire war on pause, a ceasefire that keeps on getting extended to get more people back. We've seen statements from the Defense Ministry from the military saying its only temporary Israel can certainly resume the war at a moment's notice as soon as the hostage deal is done. But the loss of momentum, how much is that going to cost Israel? Well, let me be a little bit sceptic about the renewal or the hostilities and certainly the decision of asking the army to begin again hostilities. This is very difficult, very difficult to do because there's a problem, psychological problem to overcome. You are in a situation where it's a ceasefire. I mean, with all due respect, we are in a ceasefire. It's not a humanitarian truth. It's not a pause. It is a ceasefire. And as such, Hamas has achieved his goal. He wants a ceasefire to be extended. Now, he has been adding two days for that, where six days after, will be six days after. And then he has four more days before the government in Israel decides what's happening if we want to continue on the swap of hostages and Palestinian convicted prisoners. Or we don't do that. At this point, the question will rise. Would you say no if you are offered 10 more hostages? Why should you begin to fire again? Let's wait. Let's negotiate. And the more we negotiate and the more the ceasefire is extended and the more ceasefire is extended, the more we realize that we are in fact in a situation where I cannot describe it, but a defeat because we have not accomplished the main issue, the main mission of this war, which was to eradicate Hamas. And if this war ends in such a situation, then what would Hezbollah think about Israel? We are supposed to be the most powerful army in the region. And this most powerful army in the region did not even defeat a militia like Hamas. So I think that there is no other choice but to continue the war. We have to take into consideration the fact that there are two issues that are at stake here. Hostages on the one hand and the eradication of Hamas on the other. Now, if you swap and switch the priorities and put hostages in the lead, then there is no possibility to go on the second because it will last forever. Today he'll give you 10, the next week he will give you five and two and two and there are the soldiers and there has been also hints by Hamas that he wants to begin negotiating about the soldiers, the release of the soldiers that he has abducted. So in fact we are in a situation where we have to make a serious decision where to go and to reset our priorities as they were at the beginning. And we're going to continue this in a brief moment but first on the status of the hostages. We are going to turn to our correspondent, Pierre Kloschendler who's standing by Eklav Hospital in Tel Aviv. Pierre, what's the latest that we're hearing? Medical assessments for all the hostages. We know that at least one delivered in a wheelchair due to her injuries. What do we know about these hostages right now? Right, there is a kid who's been delivered with a wheelchair. She has a cast on her leg. Her name is Yuval. She was probably wounded during the October 7th massacre. What is in common about all these nine children and two women, two mothers that were released from captivity overnight at 12.30, at midnight 30 this evening at Tel Khilov Hospital is that they all come from Kibbutz Nachal Oz which was the site of one of the most horrible massacres on October 7 in which over 100 people were killed. 77 were abducted. There are 49 people remaining in captivity from that Kibbutz only. What we know also is that they belong to five different families but all their parents, the fathers of these families are still held in captivity. That's what's common among all the people that have been released. Their condition is stable according to the head of the pediatric ward in the Yakhilov Hospital. Their condition is stable but their emotional condition needs to be assessed and it's a very long process, a process that's either one of the relatives of the Calderon family who, with Sahar and Yuval who returned from... and Hez, sorry, who returned from captivity had said it's a very long process. Let's hear what he said. Our sweet 16-years-old Sahar and our wonderful 12-years-old Hez have returned to us safely. This is a momentous day in our lives. We are filled with excitement but we have not yet fully processed what has happened. I am finding that it's difficult to go from a state of endless anxiety about their fate to a state of relief and joy. I believe it will take time. This is an exciting and a heart-feeling moment but we also understand that it is the beginning of a difficult rehabilitation process for Sahar and Hez who are still young and have been through an unbearable experience. As I said, the five families come from Kibbutz Nachal Oz and Ido was speaking about a long process and it's not just a process of healing for those who were released. There are still 49 people in from Kibbutz near Oz that are still in captivity. Among them, the five fathers of the family. One of them was wounded because he fought the terrorist. We don't know what is health here. As a result, there is still a high level of anxiety amongst the people of near Oz. Thank you very much for that report. Just a quick minor correction near Oz, Nachal Oz as you corrected at the end there but it is worth pointing out that as a focus. We're going to move on from that. Thank you very much Pierre to some of what happened on October 7th and the fight against the terrorists, a group of young female soldiers. The first into that fight against Hamas's onslaught driving 60 tons of armored fury part of an elite tank unit. They saved an entire Kibbutz during a 17 hour battle that killed 50 Hamas terrorists under their steel treads. Let's take a look. Their names are Hagar, Heela, Tal, Sara, Michal, Kani, Alfea and Tamar. Only 20 girls give or take pero estas mujeres y otros miembros de su unidad han hecho historia en el 7 de octubre. La primera mujer en Israel, probablemente en el mundo entero que fue combatida en una batalla armada, una batalla heroica en la que salvaron un entero Kibbutz y mataron a muchos de los terroristas. En este fotógrafo, que se ha publicado aquí por la primera vez, veas el tanque de Kani, el comandante de la compañía estornando la puerta de Kibbutz-Halit en su manera de cleansar los terroristas de Kibbutz. El día de la batalla empezó en el día de octubre 7, cuando los terroristas abrieron el fútbol de Gaza, los tanques fueron bastante afuera en otro sector en el grado de Egipto en su base en Nitsanit. Se empezaron a mover con dos tipos de vehículos, tanques y un tipo de vehículo armado, el asalto hacia el norte. Los tanques rastan, muy poco, docentes de kilómetros en el camino a los desplazamientos alrededor de Gaza. A partir del poste de la batalla, encontró a docentes de terroristas que murieron contra ellos y avanzaron contra las ventas. Se notaron un gran abrir creado por los terroristas y dejaron un tanque ahí en guardia. El tanque de el comandante de Platoon, Shaqed, ahora mismo se preventaron los garros de seguir pasando por el barrio en la venta contra Gaza o contra Israel. El resto de la compañía continuó con Kibbutz-Halit. En el mismo tiempo, Michal, otro comandante de plato, murió con su tanque para ayudar en la batalla en Kibbutz-Suffar. Durante seis horas, trajeron a lo largo de los garros de otras unidades, que atacaron a docentes de terroristas, removiendo los mercados del tanque de Kibbutz-Halit. Esta semana, un mes y medio después, conocimos a ellos por el primer reenactamiento del día de la batalla que van a bajar en los libros históricos. Teníamos dos tanques siempre en standby, su destinación es la bordera de Egipto. Le di a ellos un orden de ir a las ruedas contra... contra Egipto, contra la defensa, y nos dió al salto de la pata. Es muy inusual decir que las tanques... Muy inusual, muy inusual. Dejó la sección y tiró norte de la ría. Esto es muy inusual, pero entre los reportes de 1½ pasos 6 y 1½ pasos 7 en el mañana, entendemos que esto era algo de una magnitud diferente. He decidido upload Michal's tanque a la ruta de Philadelphia. Dicí a ella, entra en la unidad y tiró norte. Deja disponible para órdenes. Llegamos al norte de Sufa, y eso es donde vimos el primer encuentro. Un pick-up desbloqueado con un wounded consciente, el comandante de nuestra fuerza, el comandante de la compañía, salió a la ruta de su vehículo, operó las armas y básicamente cruzó el pick-up. Cuando llegamos a Sufa, ahí vimos el vehículo cruzado en la ruta con el wounded al exterior. Así que eso es cuando me dijeron que estamos realmente en combate y escuchamos una gran asesión en todo el mundo. Y ellos nos dijeron que era terrorista. Ahí, me dijeron la foto. Estamos realmente en guerra. Me dijeron ahí, identificé el comandante de la ruta, dos vehículos y personas detrás de los vehículos. Ellos fueron wounded también, y me empezaron a escuchar imágenes desde el norte de la ruta. Veí docentos de terroristas en la ruta con vanas, motocicletas, RPGs. Yo even fire one bullet in the air to make sure it's not our soldiers. Then a fierce firefight began, about half an hour, we're in. They are outnumbered, even approaching our direction. And the tank, which came out of the sector and made all this trip on the route, actually coming, I'm getting on the tank. The brigade commander entered my tank. He told me they were fired on from the north, and that there are terrorists all over, and all the trees north of us. I immediately loaded my stuff. The whole team just told me that they identified terrorists, and we started shooting, starting by firing machine guns at terrorists who are closer to us. And we continued to fire shells at the terrorists a bit further away. I saw the hits, I saw them fall. Hila and I stayed in on the vehicle, told to operate all communication devices, understand the situation to help the brigade commander with communications. Hila and I are on route 232. I sat in the driver's seat, Hila sat in the killer, which is a system of the heavy machine gun. She actually told me that she recognized a number of terrorists there, that I should open the window for her to be able to fire. It is important to say that none of us knew how to use it. It's a system that no one knew how to use. It's a qualification you have to pass in the army. None of us knew. In about 10 minutes, we all became experts. We knew exactly how to operate it, how to shoot it, how to maneuver every lever. Just learning like that in the field, at that moment, how to deal with a situation. As soon as 50 terrorists pass you, and you watch videos, and you know that the root axis is threatened by anti-tank weapons and RPGs and terrorists in every corner. So of course you say, well, maybe I'll be the next victim in a second. At this point, while fighting, when they encountered dozens of terrorists and eliminated them, the company commander, Captain Kari, dispatched a third tank from Nitzana, commanded by Sergeant Ophir. Y ahora, hay tres tanques con arma. Y lo que balanceó el peso fue ver 50 terroristas volviendo en mi dirección, contra el vehículo, contra el asesino, contra el tanque. Ahí, Michal empezó a hacer contacto con el enemigo. Desde el momento que Karni me dijo que iban a ir a la ruta de Philadelphia y dirigir hacia Gaza, entendí que esto era una meta serio, no algo que hacemos todos los días. El sentimiento de la adrenación en el cuerpo, para preparar el equipo, prepararlo para la verdadera cosa que vamos a hacer. Después de dos horas de la lucha, mi tanque de sergeant, que fue un poco más hacia afuera de mí, llegó a mí y mi comandante de planta, fuimos a mi tanque de sergeant, y estamos peleando, mi comandante de planta, todos los tanques, y atacamos el fútbol. We saw, first of all, the rows of trees with burnt terraceous. You see the bodies of the terraceous and we reached a breach in the fence. I attacked. Machine gun fire. Ensuring the destruction of everything around. And if we thought that 50 terraceous was supposedly the end, it was only the beginning. We understood that there are apparently hostages there, terraceous, terrorists, in a ball reporting to Johnny Carrhan, deدا, terrorista dentro del Kibuc. Me dio la tienda de platoonた de la tienda, y le digo, no importa qué viene de esa ruta, te�asancho, tienes permiso. Si en duda, claro que pasa, pero no importa qué viene de arriba a arriba, te tira. Y el movimiento empieza con el comandador negativo. El guión actualmente se identifica dos terroristas. y reportó a mí que reconoció a los dos terroristas. Y le dije a ella, ¡juste apuntanlos! Llegó a ellos y movieron, y lo preventaron más. Más de ellos vienen. Llegamos al entorno del desplazamiento y vio la puerta cerrada y un soldado me volvió. Como una bluera ronjando a mí en una pánica. Rejó sus manos y salió, ¡terrorista! ¡terrorista! ¡Enter los quibuts! ¡terrorista! Y lo rompimos en el lugar, took the momentum, with the tank, broke the yellow gate. The hand of that soldier pointed and said, look, there's a shell there, there's terrorists there. I asked him, are there civilians there? He said, I don't know, fire a shell there. I decide not to shoot a shell there. We're talking about an Israeli community. I fired machine guns into the entrance of the house. The tank fired both machine guns and shells, even within the community. Basically a very complex fight. The terrorists did not fight the tank, they fought and when the tank came they either ran or they died. The fighting continued there until around eight in the evening until we made sure the area was clean, that the community was safe and you evacuated the civilians. Was this the first time you shot people, terrorists? I feel like it was exactly how I prepared for it in training. There are exercises for everything and just doing what the mind knows y lo que las manos saben. You saved a lot of lives in Khalid, in the end including the whole kibbutz. Right. When you're at that moment in the event, you don't think, wait, I'm saving him. I'm saving this house. You understand that there's a terrorist here and I must kill him before he reaches one of my communities. How many hours in a row did you fight? Around 17 hours. Inside the tank? Yes. The female tankers who came with their tanks basically broke the attack in both places that the tanks came directly under terrorist fire. The terrorists were mostly eliminated and those who weren't just fled because they realized they had no chance and the girls inside the tanks, the fighters, with three tanks at this stage of the attack, they fought brilliantly, fought in a way that they were apparently not even trained for, carried on shooting inside Israeli communities, drove on roads y creo que gracias a estas acciones y un ataque más hacia el norte también se ha preventado. Todos los desplazamientos en el Chével Shalom area, ni los terroristas llegaron, gracias al arrivo de las tropas de la Perón Brigade y a los tankers que fueron tan significados en este momento del ataque. Tuve que decir heroínas y historias y yo personalmente no me siento como un heroe. Me siento que soy un guerrero que se ha dado orden y ella ha hecho su trabajo y creo que nadie lo haría. Estamos los únicos tanques femeninos en el mundo, muy fortalecidos, muy profesionales. No hay otras armas que tienen... No. No hay otras armas externas de todos los que tienen tanques femeninos en el mundo. Es realmente una historia, algo enorme. Las chicas y armadas y los guerreros en general, charlas, cobertas, funcionales, traídas de la wounda en un modo inspirador. ¿Es eso todo el debate de atrás de nosotros? Creo que no es más relevante. Después de esta guerra, será claro. También la necesidad y también la prueba de la habilidad clara que está aquí. Chief of Staff, Major General Hersey Hallavi encontró tiempo ayer en el medio de la pelea para conocer los tanques que han hecho historia. Él sabe que después de lo que hicieron en el 7 de octubre, la debate sobre integrar mujeres en el cuerpo de las armas es terminada. Estas mujeres han proveido que las mujeres en el tanque van a ganar. Y nos volvemos ahora a Jack Narria. Pueden hablar de tales de heroismos todos los días, Jack. Pero la última cosa es que todavía había una inteligencia colosal. Un fallo. No debería haber tenido que hacer una pérdida para llegar a la posición. Se debería haber estado en la posición en el primer lugar. Haaretz ha lanzado un reporte justo la noche que dijo que la inteligencia señala que han pido los reportes de los anuncios de Hamas en el 7 de octubre. Haciendo fríos de la ataque, revelando sus planes para completamente anihilar la entidad de Kibbutzim. ¿Cómo en el nombre de Dios ha sido este ignorado? Hacía 24 años en la inteligencia y puedo decirles que esto no es el único caso que sucedió durante ese periodo. Estoy muy viva. La verdad es que la inteligencia refugió a la confianza. La cabeza de la inteligencia refugió a la confianza que Sadat iba a visitar a Jerusalén en vez de aceptar el hecho de escuchar solo su hablar en la Asamblea Popular. Hacía solo decidir poner la toda armadura en alerta. Hacía a la cabeza de Sadat y dijo que Sadat estaba atrasado. Esto es, en realidad, también un blanda estratégico. Esto es increíble. Y luego, lo mismo sucedió durante la guerra iraquí. La primera guerra de las mujeres cuando la inteligencia que la producción en el asesino, o sea, under mí, dijo que Irán podría atacar a Israel y la cabeza de la inteligencia refugió a la confianza y el efecto de los resultados que nos atacaron por misiles. La primera vez en nuestra historia 40 misiles se lanzaron en Israel. La verdad es que el problema es que nos mantenemos como israelíes, piensamos como israelíes, no piensamos como árabes. Podemos solo cambiar nuestra mente. Esto es, a veces, imposible. Pero esto es un elemento. El segundo elemento es vanity, vanity, vanity, sé todo, sé mejor que tú. ¿Quién es tú, un sergeant, para decirme que el Hamas va a atacar? Yo soy responsable. Y luego veas que, o sea, las cosas que incluso tú y yo podrían haber visto en TV líderes de Hamas siendo entrevistados tres o cuatro días antes del ataque, diciendo que vamos a atacar en un par de días en el todo área. ¿Dónde están las personas? ¿Dónde están los asleep? ¿Dónde están los absentes? Y luego, el blander no solo va en el inteligencia, sino también en la operación. ¿Cómo no te preparas? ¿Por qué te confiaste tanto en el obstáculo? ¿Cómo pensaste que este obstáculo era tan formidable y un obstáculo que no podría ser overcome? Al menos, veas los dos tanques. A lo largo de lo que veas, he parado de atacar. Si tuvimos 10 o 15 tanques en el mismo tiempo, entonces la cosa habría sido diferente. Entonces, el problema no es inteligencia y es interpretación. El problema es también cómo aplicar esta inteligencia a, digamos, ok, ¿sabes qué? Tal vez te escribas, tal vez no, pero veas las medidas necesarias para proteger a nosotros. Una pregunta chila de cómo la bala se ha caído tan mal y si o no, Israel puede realmente aprender algo de esto porque, como mencionaste, Israel ha hecho este tipo de falso en varias veces. Y su hija, Jack, muchas gracias, vamos a romper esto todo. Incluso es un terrible, terrible tema para tener que romperlo. Por lo tanto, estamos fuera de tiempo para este show, pero vamos a volver para nuestro próximo broadcast en solo una mitad de la hora. Así que, definitivamente, déjanos la atención para eso con updates en la guerra. Y hasta luego, gracias por verlo. I-24 News es un cover de Israel en la guerra. Un frágil y temprano de incendio ha sido extendido por dos días para intercambiar más hostes para los prisioneros de seguridad. Una delición que verá 20 mujeres y niños más abiertas y más abiertas realizadas por la organización de Hamas Terror y 60 más terroristas convirtidas y afuera de Israel. Catar en Estados Unidos han confirmado los detalles, aunque Israel dice que no hay un problema hasta que esto actualmente suceda. 11 más hostes fueron realizadas las últimas 9 niños. All of their fathers remain in captivity. All children are in stable condition according to Iglob Hospital. Luan Yuval Engel is in a wheelchair from her injuries. All of the hostages were taken to the hospital in helicopters where they reunited with their families. All of them also from Kibbutz near O's. But there are still roughly 60 women and children that have not been released. And reportedly, Hamas doesn't even know where most of them are, having passed them to crime families and other unknown entities, including the 10-month-old baby, Kibbutz, mother and sibling, which IDF Intelligence suggests were traded by Hamas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip. Local Channel 12 reports that one of the released hostages revealed that in the early days of the war, they were taken to Khan Yunus, where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader, Yahya Sinwar, who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in Hebrew. Military intelligence exposed the depth of the preparation failures leading to the massacres. According to Haaretz reports, IDF Intelligence NCOs had warned about the massacre months in advance, one saying that signal intelligence had intercepted communications of a Hamas training drill for October 7, a drill that ended with a terrorist claiming to have killed all residents of Kibbutz and Storm and showing the genocidal intent behind Hamas's operation. These warnings were ignored. We now go to our correspondent Robert Swift, who is standing by a hostage square in Tel Aviv. Robert, what's going on there now que estamos escuchando sobre una extensión del deal de hostages para lanzar 20 más mujeres y niños inocentes? Esta locación, que ha sido conocida como Hostages Square, es muy un punto focal para las ideas y la esperanza de los israelíos públicos con respecto a los hostages. Ahora que yet another batch de hostages ha sido lanzada, el fokus es comenzar a ser un poco contra los hombres que permanecen captivos en el lado de la estación de Gaza y también a los grupos además de Hamas que están capturando los prisioneros. Ahora, hasta ahora, only women and children have been released, but many of those who have been returned back to Israel still have family members, their fathers and their husbands trapped inside the Gaza Strip. Now, as Hamas continues to release hostages, it is hoped that possibly some of these men will be released as it works its way through those that it holds. This is likely to start, first of all, with older men, but there does remain hopes in the public that the younger men, the fathers of many of the children who have recently been released that they too will be released. Now it's also the focus of the Israeli public is beginning to switch not just to Hamas, which of course controls the Gaza Strip and is the most powerful armed group inside that territory, but also to the other factions there, many of whom also are holding hostages. Now, the most powerful of these is Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which is reported to hold around 40 hostages, but there are other groups besides individuals and gangs who are understood to also be controlling hostages. And at this stage, it remains unclear how these disparate groups will tie into the ongoing ceasefire and the hostage exchange, which is a part of this, as they themselves are not a direct party to it. It's definitely a challenge going forward operationally, practically and politically. Robert, thank you very much for that report from Hostages Square. Now, for more though, we are joined here in studio by Colonel Jack Narayoff, former deputy head of assessment with Israeli military intelligence. Jack, this hostage situation has effectively put the entire war on pause, a ceasefire that keeps on getting extended to get more people back. We've seen statements from the Defense Ministry from the military saying its only temporary Israel can certainly resume the war at a moment's notice as soon as the hostage deal is done. But the loss of momentum, how much is that going to cost Israel? Well, let me be a little bit sceptic about the renewal or the hostilities and certainly the decision of asking the army to begin again hostilities. This is very difficult, very difficult to do because there's a problem, psychological problem to overcome. You are in a situation where it's a ceasefire. I mean, with all due respect, we are in a ceasefire. It's not the humanitarian truth. It's not a pause. It is a ceasefire. And as such, Hamas has achieved his goal. He wants a ceasefire to be extended. Now he's been adding two days for that, where six days after will be six days after. And then he has four more days before the government in Israel decides what's happening if we want to continue on the swap of hostages and Palestinian convicted the prisoners or we don't do that. At this point, the question will rise. Would you say no if you are offered 10 more hostages? Why should you begin to fire again? Let's wait. Let's negotiate. And the more we negotiate and the more the ceasefire extended and the more ceasefire extended, the more we realize that we are in fact in a situation where I cannot describe it but a defeat because we have not accomplished the main issue, the main mission of this war which was to eradicate the Hamas. And if this war ends in such a situation, then what would Hezbollah think about Israel? We are supposed to be the most powerful army in the region. And this most powerful army in the region did not even defeat a militia like Hamas. So that I think that there is no other choice but to continue the war. We have to take into consideration the fact that there are two issues that are at stake here. Hostages on the one hand and the eradication of Hamas on the other. Now, if you swap and switch the priorities and put hostages in the lead, then there is no possibility to go on the second because it will last forever. Today he'll give you 10. The next week he will give you five and two and two and there are the soldiers and there has been also hints by Hamas that he wants to begin negotiating about the soldier, the release of the soldiers that he has abducted. So in fact, we are in a situation where we have to make a serious decision where to go and to reset our priorities and they were at the beginning. And we're going to continue this in a brief moment but first on the status of the hostages. We are going to turn to our correspondent Pierre Kloschen, there who's standing by Ecoliv Hospital in Tel Aviv. Pierre, what's the latest that we're hearing about the medical assessments for all the hostages? We know that at least one delivered in a wheelchair due to her injuries. What do we know about these hostages right now? Right, there is a kid who's been delivered with a wheelchair. She has a cast on her leg. Her name is Yuval. She was probably wounded during the October 7th massacre. What is in common about all these nine children and two women, two mothers that were released from captivity overnight at midnight 30 this evening at Tchilov Hospital is that they all come from Kibbutz Nachal Oz which was the site of one of the most horrible massacres on October 7 in which over 100 people were killed, 77 were abducted. There are 49 people remaining in captivity from that Kibbutz only. What we know also is that they belong to five different families but all their parents, the fathers of these families are still held in captivity. That's what's common among all the people that have been released. Their condition is stable according to the head of the pediatric ward in the Tchilov Hospital. Their condition is stable but their emotional condition needs to be assessed and it's a very long process, a process that's Ido, one of the relatives of the Calderón family who with Sahar and Yuval who returned from, and Hez, sorry, who returned from captivity had said it's a very long process. Let's hear what he said. Our sweet 16 years old Sahar and our wonderful 12 years old Hez have returned to us safely. This is a momentous day in our lives. We are filled with excitement but we have not yet fully processed what has happened. I'm finding that it's difficult to go from a state of endless anxiety about their fate to a state of relief and joy. I believe it will take time. This is an exciting and a heart-filling moment but we also understand that it's the beginning of a difficult rehabilitation process for Saharan areas who are still young and have been through an unbearable experience. As I said, the five families come from Kibbutz, Nachal Oz and Ido were speaking about a long process and it's not just a process of healing for those who were released. There are still 49 people in from Kibbutz near Oz that are still in captivity among them the five fathers of the family. One of them was wounded because he fought the terrorists. We don't know what his health here is and as a result, there is still a high level of anxiety amongst the people of near Oz. Thank you very much for that report. Just a quick minor correction. Near Oz, Nachal Oz as you corrected at the end there but it is worth pointing out that as a focus. We're going to move on from that. Thank you very much. Let's go Pierre to some of what happened on October 7th and the fight against the terrorists. A group of young female soldiers the first into that fight against Hamas's onslaught driving 60 tons of armored fury part of an elite tank unit. They saved an entire Kibbutz during a 17 hour battle that killed 50 Hamas terrorists under their steel treads. Let's take a look. The names Ahaga, Hila, Tal, Sara, Michal, Kani, Alfea and Tamar. Only 20 girls give or take but these tank women and other members of their unit made history on the 7th of October. The first women in Israel probably in the entire world who fought in an armored battle. A heroic battle in which they saved an entire Kibbutz and killed dozens of terrorists. In this photograph which is published here for the first time you see the tank of Kani the company commander storming the gate of Kibbutz Halit on its way to cleanse the Kibbutz terrorists. The day of their battle began on the morning of October the 7th when the terrorists breached the Gaza fence the tankers were fairly far away in another sector on the border of Egypt at their base in Nitsanit. They began moving with two types of vehicles tanks and a type of armored vehicle the killer towards the north. The tanks raced Very untypically dozens of kilometers on the way to the settlements around Gaza. Near the Sufa altpost they encountered dozens of terrorists rushing towards them and advancing towards the fence. They noticed a huge opening created by the terrorists and left one tank there on guard. The tank of the platoon commander Shaqed would from now on prevent garrzans from continuing to pass through the breach in the fence towards Gaza or towards Israel. The rest of the company continued to Kibbutz Khalid. At the same time, Michal, another platoon commander moved with her tank to help in the battle at Kibbutz Sufa. For six hours they fought alongside the troops from other units hitting dozens of terrorists removing the murderers from the Kibbutz im. This week, a month and a half later we met them for the first reenactment of the day of the battle that will go down in the history books. We had two tanks always on standby whose destination is the border of Egypt. I gave them an order to drive on the roads towards towards Egypt, towards the fence and told them we will meet on the way. It's very unusual to tell the tanks. Very unusual, very unusual. Leave the section and drive north on the road. This is very unusual but between the reports of half past six and half past seven in the morning we understood this was something on a different magnitude. I actually decided to upload Michal's tank on the Philadelphia route. I told her get on the unit's network and just drive north. Be available for orders. We moved north towards Sufa. That's actually where we saw the first encounter. A pickup loaded with conscious wounded, the commander of our force, the company commander, went up to the roof of her vehicle, operated the weapons and basically crushed the pickup. When we got to Sufa, there we saw the truck crashed on the road with the wounded outside. So that's when it dawned on me that we're really in combat and hearing massive shooting all around us. And they told us it's terrorists. There, I got the picture. We really were at war. I got there. I identified the brigade commander. Two vehicles and people behind the vehicles. They were wounded there too. And I started hearing gunshots from the north of the road. I saw dozens of terrorists on the road with vans, motorcycles, RPGs. I even fired one bullet in the air to make sure it's not our soldiers. Then a fierce firefight began, about half an hour. We're in. They are outnumbered, even approaching our direction. And the tank, which came out of the sector and made all this trip on the route, actually coming. I'm getting on the tank. The brigade commander entered my tank. He told me they were fired on from the north and that there are terrorists all over and all the trees north of us. I immediately loaded my stuff. The whole team just told me that they identified terrorists and we started shooting. Starting by firing machine guns at terrorists who are closer to us. And we continued to fire shells at the terrorists a bit further away. I saw the hits. I saw them fall. Hila and I stayed in on the vehicle. Tell to operate all communication devices. Understand the situation to help the brigade commander with communications. Hila and I are on route 232. I sat in the driver's seat. Hila sat in the killer, which is a system of the heavy machine gun. She actually told me that she recognized a number of terrorists there. That I should open the window for her to be able to fire. It is important to say that none of us knew how to use it. It's a system that no one knew how to use. It's a qualification you have to pass in the army. None of us knew. In about 10 minutes, we all became experts. We knew exactly how to operate it, how to shoot it, how to maneuver every lever. Just learning like that in the field at that moment how to deal with a situation. As soon as 50 terrorists passed you and you watch videos and you know that the route axis is threatened by anti-tank weapons and RPGs and terrorists in every corner. So of course you say, well, maybe I'll be the next victim in a second. At this point, while fighting, when they encountered dozens of terrorists and eliminated them, el comandante de la compañía, Captain Kari, despachó el tercer tanque de Nitzana comandante de Sargent of Fear. Ahora hay tres tanques con armas. Y lo que balanceó el peso fue ver 50 terroristas volviendo en mi dirección, contra el vehículo, contra el asesino, contra el tanque. Ahí, Michal empezó a hacer contacto con el enemigo. Desde el momento que Karni me dijo que iba en la ruta de Philadelphia y viajó hacia Gaza, entendí que esto era un tema serio, no algo que hacemos todos los días. Un sentimiento de adrenalina en el cuerpo, para preparar el equipo, prepararlo para la verdadera cosa que vamos a hacer. Después de dos horas de la batalla, mi tanque de Sargent, que fue un poco más hacia el norte de mí, volviendo a mí y mi comandante de plantón volvieron a mi tanque de sargent y estamos combatiendo, mi y mi comandante de plantón, los dos toquen juntos y atacamos al fútbol. Se vio, primero de todo, los arrojos de los árboles con el terror de la caída. Se ve el cuerpo del terror y llegamos a un barrio en el fútbol. Me atacó, el fuego de la máquina, la destrucción de todo alrededor. Y si pensamos que 50 terroristas fue supuestamente el fin, fue solo el principio. Entendemos que hay espacios aparentemente ahí, terroristas dentro de la caída. Me dejó el tanque de comandante de plantón, y le digo, no importa qué viene de esa ruta, se abre el fuego. Tienes permiso. Si en duda, por supuesto cheque, pero no importa qué viene de el norte al norte, se llaman. Y el movimiento comandante de la caída. El coche actualmente ha identificado a terroristas y me ha reportado que reconoce a dos terroristas. Y le dije, solo los reconozca. Se han guiado sobre ellos y se han movido y se han preventado más. Más de ellos vienen. Llegamos a la entrada del desplazamiento y veamos la puerta cerrada y un soldado me volvió. Como una bluera, que me quedó en una pánica, le dieron sus manos y le dieron, ¡Terroristas, terroristas! ¡Entren los quibuts! ¡Terroristas! Y lo rompimos en el lugar, tomó el momento, con el tanque, rompió la puerta cerrada. La mano de ese soldado lo apuntó y dijo, ¡Mira, hay un desplazamiento ahí, hay terroristas ahí! Me pregunté, ¿Son sus civilizantes ahí? Él dijo, ¡No lo sé! ¡Llegó un desplazamiento ahí! Decidí no disparar un desplazamiento ahí. Estamos hablando de una comunidad israelíca. Me volvió a las armas machine en la entrada del desplazamiento. El tanque volvió a las armas machine y desplazamiento, incluso dentro de la comunidad. Esa es una pelea muy complexa. Los terroristas no lucharon el tanque. Lucharon, y cuando el tanque volvió, ellos either ran o mataron. La pelea continuó ahí hasta las ocho de la noche, hasta que creamos que la zona estaba limpia, que la comunidad estaba segura y que se evacuaron los civilizantes. ¿Esta fue la primera vez que te atrapas a los terroristas? Me siento como que es exactamente lo que preparé para el entrenamiento. Hay ejercicios para todo y solo hacer lo que la mente sabe y lo que las manos saben. Tu has salvado muchas vidas en Jalit, en el final, incluida las caizas. Right. Cuando estás en ese momento en el evento, no piensas, ¡Espera, estoy salvando a él! Estoy salvando este hogar. Entendiste que hay un terrorista aquí y tengo que matar a él antes de que llegue a una de mis comunidades. ¿Cuántas horas en un río haces la pelea? En unas 17 horas. Dentro del tanque? Sí. Los tanques females que vinieron con sus tanques básicamente rompieron el ataque en ambos lugares que los tanques vinieron directamente bajo el fuego terrorista. Los terroristas fueron más eliminados y los que fueron justificados porque se realizaron que no tenían oportunidad. Y las chicas dentro de los tanques, los peleadores, con tres tanques en este momento de el ataque. Los atraparon brillantemente, atraparon en un modo que parecen no ser traídos. Cargados en la fila dentro de las comunidades israelianas se atrapan a las ruedas y creo que gracias a estas acciones y un ataque más afuera también fue atrapado. Todos los atrapamientos en el Shalom area ni terroristas llegaron a ellos. Gracias al rival de los atrapamientos de la Brigade de Paran y los tanques que fueron tan significados en este momento del ataque. Casi decimos heroines y historias y personalmente no me siento como un heroe. Me siento que soy un warrior que ha sido entregado a las operaciones y que ha hecho su trabajo y creo que nadie haría esto. Estamos los tanques females en el mundo, muy fortalecidos, muy profesionales. No hay otros armes que tienen... No. No hay otros armes de otro lado de todos que tienen tanques females en ellos. Es realmente una historia y una historia. Algo enorme. Las mujeres y los armados y los warriors en general encendidos, cobrados, funcionados, traídos en un modo inspirado. ¿Es eso todo el debate detrás de nosotros? Creo que no es más relevante. Después de esta guerra estará claro. También la necesidad y también la prueba de la claridad que está aquí. Chief of Staff, Major General, Hersey Halevi, encontró tiempo ayer en el medio de la combate para conocer los tanques que han hecho la historia. Él sabe que después de lo que hicieron el 7 de octubre, el debate sobre integrar las mujeres a los armados es terminado. Estas mujeres aprobadas, las mujeres en el tanque van a ganar. Y regresamos ahora a Jack Nairia. Podemos hablar de tales de heroes todos los días, Jack. Pero la última cosa es que hay una inteligencia colosal, un falso. No debería haber tenido que hacer una rusa para llegar a la posición. Debería haber sido en la primera vez. Haaretz ha anunciado un reporte, justo la noche, diciendo que la inteligencia señaló que han tomado reportes, noticias de Hamas planando el 7 de octubre, haciendo drilas de el ataque, revelando sus planes para completamente anihilar la entidad de Kibbutzim. ¿Cómo, en el nombre de Dios, fue alguno de estos ignorados? Bueno, he spent 24 años en la inteligencia y puedo decirles que esto no es el único caso que sucedió durante ese periodo. Estoy muy viva el hecho de que la inteligencia refugió a creer, la cabeza de inteligencia refugió a creer que Haaretz iba a visitar a Jerusalem. En vez de aceptar el hecho de escuchar su hablar a la Asamblea popular, ha decidido poner la toda armada en alerta. Haaretz fue a la cabeza de inteligencia y dijo que Haaretz estaba atrasado. Esto es, en realidad, también un blunder estratégico. Esto es increíble. Y luego, lo mismo sucedió durante la guerra iraquí. La primera guerra de las gulfas cuando la inteligencia dijo que la producción y el asesino, yo, dijo que Irak podría atacar a Israel y la cabeza de inteligencia refugió a creerlo. Y los resultados de la factura fueron atacados por misiles. La primera vez en nuestra historia 40 misiles en Israel. El hecho es que la problema es que nosotros, como israelíes, piensamos como israelíes. No piensamos como árabes. Solo deberíamos cambiar nuestra mente. Esto es, a veces, es imposible. Pero esto es un elemento. El segundo elemento es la vanity, vanity, vanity. Yo lo sé, yo lo sé mejor que tú. Soy un sergeante para decirme que el Hamas va a atacar. Yo soy responsable. Y luego veas cosas que incluso tú y yo podrían haber visto en TV líderes de Hamas siendo entrevistados tres o cuatro días antes del ataque diciendo que vamos a atacar en un par de días el todo, el todo el área. Entonces, ¿dónde están las personas? ¿Dónde están los sleep? ¿Dónde están los absentes? Y luego el blander no es solo en el interés, sino también en la operación. ¿Cómo no te preparas? ¿Por qué te confiaste tanto en el obstáculo? ¿Cómo crees que el obstáculo era tan formidable y que no podía overcomear? Al menos, veas los dos tanques. En lo que veas, he parado en un ataque. Si tuvimos 10 o 15 tanques en el mismo, entonces la cosa sería diferente. Entonces, el problema no es inteligencia y es interpretación. El problema es también cómo aplicar esta inteligencia a... Dice, ok, ¿Sabes qué? Tal vez te escribas, tal vez no. Pero veas las medidas necesarias para proteger a nosotros. Una pregunta chile de cómo el bala se ha caído tan mal. ¿Puede o no? ¿Puede o no? ¿Puede o no? ¿Puede o no? Porque, a veces, y a su hija Jack, muchas gracias, vamos a romper todo esto. Esa es un tema terrible que tenemos que romper. Por lo que, estamos fuera de tiempo para este show. Pero, vamos a volver para nuestro próximo broadcast en apenas una hora y medio. Así que, definitivamente, déjanos la atención con updates en la guerra. Hasta luego, gracias por verla. Israel está en un estado de la guerra. Las familias son completamente hundidas en sus bares. No nos preocupamos, es algo que debe ser tomado también. Esta semana, en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24, en español, trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente, en News 24. News 24, en el coverage de Israel en la guerra. Una frágil y temprano ha sido extendida por dos días para intercambiar más hostes para los prisons de seguridad. Una delición que verá 20 mujeres y niños realizadas por la organización terrorista de Hamas y 60 terroristas convirtidas por Israel. Catar en Estados Unidos ha confirmado los detalles, aunque Israel no ha hecho nada. En general, 11 más hostes fueron realizadas durante la noche, 9 niños, todos sus padres que aún permanecen en captividad. Todos los niños están en condición en la condición en el hospital Iklav, pero el único Yvall Engel está en un descanso de sus injeras. Todos los hostes fueron tomados en el hospital en los helicópteros donde se reunieron con sus familias. Todos ellos son de Kibbutz en Oves. Pero hay casi 20 mujeres y niños que no saben dónde son los que han pasado sus familias y otros entidades desconocidos, incluyendo los 10 años de Kibbutz, su madre y su hija. La inteligencia indica que fueron tratados por Hamas a otro grupo terrorista de Gaza. El local Channel 12 reporta que uno de los hostes reveló que en los días de la guerra fueron tomados en los tunnels de Hamas y el líder de la colonia. El grupo de todos los militares que fueron tratados por Hamas a otro grupo terrorista de Gaza con el gran crimen y con el otro comienzo de Hamas a otro grupo terrorista de Gaza. Campeones de three comiencias de Hamas y Д obligación de por la noche. ¿Por qué digo eso? ¿Qué es el problema especial de la noche? Porque el secretario de Estado, Antonio Blinken, que está ahora en la conferencia nata en Brasil, está en su camino a Israel, el Bank West, y el UAE, y ha anunciado antes de venir a la región de hablar de los problemas humanitarios de Gaza, y de obtener los nacionales, incluyendo los americanos, no los hostegers, pero los que residen en Gaza, salen, tienen problemas ahí, y, eventualmente, trabajar para una solución de dos estados, que es lo que Netanyahu no quiere. Ahora, como el secretario de Estado de Estados Unidos, es en la región, no hace sentido para Israel, para que estén los espacios y resumen las operaciones militar, porque esto indicaría uno de los dos, que la U.S. sea complejada en esta decisión, o que Israel ha hecho lo que la U.S. ha preguntado no hacer. Estas dos opciones son incendiosas de alguna manera. Así que, al menos hasta el principio de la próxima semana, es bastante práctico ver a los traders. Y Jonathan, prácticamente hablando, debido a 10 días de incendio que Amir ha dicho, es muy probable en las cartas, ¿cuánto puede que Hamas construya sus defensas? Y ¿qué ha sido hecho a Israel's military readiness en este momento? A Israel's military readiness, nada es hecho, porque la readiness está ahí, pero lo que pasa en el otro lado, eso es una historia diferente, porque Hamas ahora tiene el tiempo de recuperar, armar a sí mismo, fixar las líneas de comunicación, que quizás se han disparado y se han traído de efecto. Así que, básicamente, es el tiempo para Hamas para regroupar, rearmar a sí mismos. No hay presencia israelí en el área de Rafa, por ejemplo, los tonos están ahí, las cosas pueden venir de Egipto, podemos asumir que están haciendo, los tonos están abiertos para entrar en los trenes, así que las cosas pueden entrar, y si y cuando la incendio va a terminar, Israel va a encontrar un enemigo que tiene tiempo de recuperar, regroupar y estar más listos para la combina. Israel está listo, la armadura está listo para empezar en este momento, la primera incendio fue supuesta a expirar, tres horas atrás, eso no sucedió, ahora ha sido extendido al menos hasta el thursday, me acuerdo que, por lo tanto, el secretario de Estado Antonio Blinken está aquí, Israel no se va a engañar, probablemente, en un gran defensivo de la tierra, la red, por lo que Israel está ahí, esto claramente ayuda al otro lado, pero es tan difícil como es, creo que la armadura y prácticamente casi todos en israel comprenden que esto es un precio valioso para el reúdido que Israel está obteniendo, y eso es, por supuesto. Debemos poner un astorismo en todo lo que Jonathan ha dicho, que es completamente cierto, si en este momento alguna nueva inteligencia se ha desarrollado, y alguna planificación para un colectivo brillante, alguna operación que no hemos visto durante el gran reúdido con tanques y infras, si eso se desarrollará en las cuartas IDF, y una vez que el reúdido, o en lugar de conducir esta operación al reúdido, vemos a lo menos muchos hostes siendo rescatados en un grado de luz, o Sinoir y sus colegas, de nuevo, siendo matados en una ruta, entonces, lo que estamos viendo ahora, es Muth. Bueno, vamos a ver cómo eso se desarrolló, un colectivo de gran inteligencia que no hemos visto, pero por lo tanto, antes de continuar la discusión, quiero dar a nuestro correspondiente, Robert Swift, que está estando en la ruta en Tel Aviv, Rob, con todos los desarrollamientos que hemos visto en el curso de la mañana, los anuncios de las cifras extendentes, pero también el conocimiento de no saber dónde muchos de los hostes son, ¿qué son los personas en la ruta en la ruta? Entonces, esta locación ha sido, por supuesto, un punto focal para los públicos israelíos, para enfocar sus pensamientos en los hostes, los que han sido regresados, pero, por lo más importante, los muchos que aún están dejados dentro de Gaza. Y ahora, algo que hemos notado esta mañana, es que una gran cantidad de los públicos que están aquí, son, en realidad, niños de la escuela, hemos visto varios grupos de estudiantes, además de sus estudiantes, que han estado aquí, esencialmente, a tener una mirada de los displays que están aquí, los postres de los que se han perdido, y es claro que muchos de los estudiantes están hablando de sus estudiantes a través de los eventos de las últimas seis semanas, explicando a ellos y ayudando a procesar lo que ha ocurrido aquí, en serio, que a muchos de estos estudiantes, sus jóvenes más viejos, que en los próximos años, van a estar serviendo en la militaría israelí. Entonces, vamos a tener una escuchación de lo que uno de los estudiantes ha dicho a nosotros. Creo que lo que está pasando en este país ahora es muy importante, es, es, es, tal vez, la vida cambiada por este país. Y así, es, es, es casi nuestra visión a entender esto, realmente entender esto, y, y, y, así, entender lo que las personas están pasando, no solo a través de lo que están aquí en las redes sociales, pero a verlo con sus propios ojos. Es histórico, es dramático, y es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es, es 7ª Raiden Massacre, que hay un entrenamiento para el Raiden, hay drilos para el Raiden, hay planes para una total liquidación y genocidio de los residentes de la Cibbutzima. En realidad, durante los drilos de entrenamiento, incluso decimos que han matado a cada miembro de la Cibbutzima. ¿Cómo la inteligencia israelí y los estados políticos y estratégicos bajaron la bala solo de lo que sabemos ahora, serían montañas de evidencia? Así que hay muchas dimensiones a este problema. Sí, lo que estás recalculando es probablemente cierto. Hablaban indicaciones que se han capturado, que un plan de la Cibbutzima se ha matado. Eso no significa que incluso esa inteligencia analista o sus colegas han encontrado evidencia de que hay intenciones para poner este plan en uso, y especialmente, no durante ningún tiempo específico. Así que vamos a mover a la rama de la inteligencia de este particular unidad o este particular analista que fue bastante brillante para patir y para alertar a los superiores de donde se ha perdido. Este, digamos que, se habría creado. Esto habría convertido en una contingencia, entre muchos. Y la mayoría de la atención israelí a Hamas se ha concentrado en los rocos. Cuando se han capturado algunas indicaciones de que Hamas está planeando algo grande, que es algo desconocido, creó que este es otro barato de rocos. No se ha concentrado en la posibilidad de una operación de la rama, y se creó que la operación de la rama en los rocos no es más valida para Hamas. Entonces se ha movido a otro nivel. Digamos que la inteligencia ha indicado que esta es una posibilidad real. ¿Qué es el lado de la operación de la casa? ¿Qué es el lado de la operación de la rama en las cuartas de IDF, el comandado de salvo, la división de Gaza? ¿Qué están haciendo con esta particular noticia, especialmente si la noticia no se ha concentrado en una posibilidad específica? Y después que hemos dicho todo eso, Israel es bastante usado para sorprenderse, pero en una escala muy pequeña, excepto de Yom Kippur, por supuesto, excepto en octubre 6, 1973. Si un perpetrador ha podido cruzar la defensa y llevar a los equipos y matar a varias personas, esto podría haber sido imaginado, pero cruzando la toda la frontera, simultáneamente, un sueño, esto fue más allá de la imaginación. So even if there was one piece of information gleaned from the ocean of news and reports that intelligence always gets, you have the Iranian threat, you have Hezbollah, and you have the West Bank, down the list you have Gaza, and down the list in Gaza you have this remote possibility of someone trying to penetrate into Israel. And down that list you have the possibility, which is very remote, that not one perpetrator or ten will do it, but 3000. This sort of cascade of intelligence challenges and failures or sometimes just lost in the noise of intelligence is hanging over not just October 7th, but the entire war in general, the military saying they are more than ready to continue the operation after the ceasefire, but we could be looking at a serious similar situation of intelligence failures and intelligence noise that we don't actually know Hamas' true capabilities, particularly giving 10 days to rearm reestablish and plot nasty surprises. Well we have two pieces of evidence that point out to the correctness of the assumption in your question, first of all Israel didn't know for certain that the hostages were a chief hospital at the beginning, at least on October 7th, and did not have possession of those security camera videos, which later showed, this is one piece of evidence, and the other is that some of the hostages still came out of the northern part of Gaza, which is ostensibly under Israeli control. I think said all of that Israel has more intelligence during its offensive operations than during its defensive operation. Israel did not collect intelligence on the kibbutzim as targets for the Hamas raid, and therefore even when forces rushed to help them, they couldn't really know who's where. Challenges all around. We're going to continue this in a brief moment, but we want to bring in a report from some of our reporters first. That is of course the aftermath of October 7th. Israel has opened a new retreat for the survivors and their families of the NOVA massacre. It's been opened near the city of Rechovot, and our Yuri Shapira and Erika Jackson is showing what is being done to heal broken people. This small hub close to the city of Rechovot, south of Tel Aviv, is called Adama Tovah, or Good Earth in Hebrew. It's become a gathering and treatment center for the survivors of the NOVA music festival massacre of October 7th. All the people who volunteer have a background of treating people who use psychedelic drugs. One of the biggest problems in this case is that many people use psychedelic drugs. Another thing is that the event happened during sunrise, one of the most significant times in the party, a magical time, which became so dark. My partner, Yvetach and I, decided to open the center, because we know this community, and we know that this community was one of the first ones to be pushed to the side. The center is also open to families of the people who were murdered and abducted. One of them is Yossi Habani, whose daughter, 22-year-old Chiked, was murdered by Hamas in the massacre. We came here two, three times a week. We get energy and air for a few more hours. It is very hard. You lose control of many things. I can cry every second or laugh every second. I lost my ability to control my hunger. My whole body is in stress. I'm very confused. I miss my daughter. The hardest thing is the night, because then I'm alone. Also waking up is hard. Mi hija y yo lloramos todo el tiempo. Me lloran y me preguntan, ¿dónde es Chiked? We also meet Aviv, a survivor of the festival. Aviv worked at the party and survived. He speaks about his difficulties and obstacles, but also about his hopes and dreams. It's a very challenging period in my life. I tried to see the good in life, the fact that I survived and also saved another couple there. In order to recover, I need to find good thoughts and to continue to spread love and light. With all of what they did to us, we won't stop loving, dancing, going out and going crazy. And next time, we'll go out and we'll be more childish and we'll have more fun than we used to. We all expect to party again. I can find a way to do it right now and to do it right away. The retreat is open three times a week and also has some music concerts. Participants and the crew see it as more than a treatment center, but as a community. One of many which has evolved after October 7th. And we're going to return to our discussion panel here in studio to discuss, of course, the aftermath of that and the ongoing Ha situation. Amir, if this is going to extend the ceasefire until Saturday night, as you say, Hamas is going to run out of women and children to release. They said they were going to bargain harder for the men. Are they going to change the terms of the deal? What's going to happen if this keeps extending? Not the terms, probably the rate. If they do run out of women and children, and this is under the lifeboat law of women and children first. But then you still have or would have some 150 or 120 males, some of them soldiers, some of them civilians. And because Israel would like to get all of them back eventually, the order doesn't really matter. Of course, the helpless, especially the toddlers, should be returned immediately. But nevertheless, if there is a chance to get anyone, a 25-year-old male bag, whoever, yes, Israel would do it, even if it means not 10. Hostages a day, but eight or even a lower number. As long as people are coming back, the Israeli public, you can see public opinion, you can see the mood of rejoice. Every time a group comes in, the Israeli public would not let its government arbitrarily decide that enough is enough because Hamas cannot find or at least claim that it cannot find. Women and children, the deal is off. Of course, that's happening at the same time as the military is promising to continue the operation if Hamas manages to extend the ceasefire by changing the rate. That will be a lot more difficult. First, I do want to bring in the defense minister that says that despite extending the ceasefire, the war is only temporarily paused. You have also warned troops, they only face much stiffer resistance from Hamas, which has taken the opportunity to fortify positions and re-establish chains of command. We don't stop until we finish the task. You now have days, get organized, rest, train, arrange your vests, organize your equipment, talk to your girlfriends at home and your parents. We will return to fighting. We will use the same strength and more. This is the task now. Remember that while you are organizing, and resting, and researching, the enemy is also doing the same. You will not meet the same resistance that was at the end, but something that will be more prepared. We will know how to work with them. I'm going to return to you again, Amir, because what we just heard there, one statement is that the military cannot be indefinitely stopped from doing this operation. They're obviously operationally capable, something we discussed in the studio a lot, but there is the political will, as you discussed. If Hamas changes the rate, eight hostages, five hostages, three hostages, they can keep a ceasefire going for months on end, at which point the war is over. Defense Minister Gallant, and the military high command, are like coaches right after the first half of the game, is over, and during the brief 15 minutes or so, between halves, they are trying to give a pep talk to the players, and the players are quite down because they know that their team is not very successful. They are down at the whistle, and in order for them to go back and believe that the mission is achievable, their superiors must tell them that it is so. Now, the political echelon, of course, has the last words, or at least the penultimate, the next to last word, because the last word is going to be President Biden's. So, whatever these soldiers believe they can do, while training for a resumption of the war, is completely out of their control. And it's not just going to be between the soldiers and the political classes, but the military is also weighing in on the role of international agencies. The Red Crosses mandate and a failure to do their duty to the hostages as well. Let's hear from Daniel Higari on this. Over 150 of our hostages, men, women, children, babies, who's taking care of them? Who is holding a 10-month-old baby, Kvir Bivas? I'll tell you, ruthless terrorists are holding him hostage in Gaza. We call on the international organization, especially the Red Cross, to use every tool at their disposal to gain access to our hostages, to make sure they're receiving the medical care they need. Our hostages are not lost. We won't sit around and hope they're found. We will rescue our hostages at all costs. I'm going to turn back to you, Jonathan, because the Israelis want to see the Red Cross do more, pero, ¿cuánto poder tiene el Red Cross? Hamas tiene 40,000 hombres con Colashnikov, y el Red Cross tiene ambulancias. El Red Cross... Puedes decir exactamente lo correcto. El Red Cross no tiene poder. Pueden llevar lo que les da. Y eso es todo. Creo que no podemos esperar el Red Cross para entrar, pero creo que el dolor en Israel es un gran crítico para Israel. De estas mismas organizaciones, de la otra mano, hay un gran crítico de Israel que viene de la Red Cross, de las Naciones Unidas, de la Organización World Health, sobre el número de víctimas en Gaza, que existen. Creo que nadie puede negar eso. La pregunta es, ¿por qué ha ocurrido? ¿Por qué ha ocurrido? En el otro lado, es muy claro. Es porque Hamas está tomando estas personas como imágenes humanas. Es operando en tonos, en hospitales, en escuelas, en casas, y eso es por eso que las civilizaciones están asesinadas. Así que los israelíes no comprenden por qué, de la otra mano, hay mucho crítico contra el número de víctimas en Gaza, que viene de la verdad que Hamas está tomando como imágenes humanas. Y, de la otra mano, no hay respuesta a las demandas de Israel de la reunión de los hostes israelíes. Sabemos que el único hostes que regresó en una condición de vida, Elma Avraham, que todavía está hospitalizado en Soroka, su situación podría haber sido mucho mejor si se había dado la medicina que necesita y el tratamiento que necesita en las siete semanas que ella estaba en captividad. Pero eso no sucedió, porque nadie llegó para dar la medicina. La medicina estaba ahí, podría haber sido transferida de la familia, a la Red Cross en Israel, a la Red Cross en Gaza, y a los hostes. Pero fue detrás, no sucedió. Así que el ángel aquí es exactamente contra el double estándar de estas organizaciones. A la otra mano, criticó Israel para todo lo que está sucediendo en Gaza. Y, a la otra mano, no ayudó a todo, con el mandatario que es cuidar de los hostes. Sí, ayudaron a facilitar el recorrido de hostes a Israel. Eso es cierto. ¿Cómo sobre el segundo estándar viendo después de los hostes en Gaza? Eso no ha sido hecho. Y cuando Admiral Hagari dijo que la pequeña Emilie Hand no fue perdida y encontró, él obviamente refería a el ministro de la Irina que, ni siquiera naively o por otra razón, dijo que cómo feliz es que una chica fue perdida, como si era una ronda roja en las hojas. Y luego se encontró miraculamente. Así que, no, Israel irá y llegará a los hostes si no se han lanzado en una sesión. Yo creo que tenemos menos de un minuto de hablar sobre esto, pero las condiciones que han sido describidas por el curso de la escena son una posibilidad real que Israel quede en su misión. Israel perderá la guerra. No, Israel nunca admitirá que perdió la guerra, incluso si los analistas luego lo judgmentan. Así que, Israel volvió a dos de sus warrenes, lanzando los hostes, que es ahora la prioridad. Y el recorrido o el desmentamiento de la máquina de Hamas en Gaza, por fuerza o diplomacia. El mundo y la región tendrán que usar para la idea que una de estas opciones debería usar porque Israel no coexistirá con Hamas. Los residentes no van a volver a sus hogares si esto es el resultado. Y el gobierno va a caer, por supuesto. No, solo caer. Es uno de los más revolucionarios eventos en la historia de Israel, al menos. Voy a agradecer a ambos de vosotros. Jonathan, Amir, por estar aquí para discutir todo esto con nosotros. Espero que nos duren tal vez una visión hopeful del futuro, aunque no estamos exactamente en el lugar más claro para verlo ahora mismo. Para todos los demás, estamos a tiempo, al menos por ahora, pero verán a vosotros en solo una mitad de la hora a la hora de 11 de la hora, localmente, en nuestro próximo broadcast, como os damos todas las noticias de la guerra y de la situación hostia que Israel se encuentra en. Hasta luego, gracias por verla, y nos vemos en el futuro no tan distinto. La noticia 24 es la cobertura de Israel en la guerra. Una frágil y temprano incendio ha sido extendida por dos días para intercambiar más hostias para los prisioneros de seguridad. Una diaria que verá 20 mujeres y niños más abductivas realizadas por la organización de terror de Hamas y 60 más terroristas convictas liberadas por Israel. Catar en Estados Unidos ha confirmado los detalles, aunque Israel dice que hasta la diaria que la guerra actually happens, there's no deal, technically speaking. 11 more hostias were released last night, nine children, all of their fathers who still remain in captivity. All the children are in stable condition, according to Iqalaf Hospital, the one Yuval Engel is in a wheelchair from her injuries. All the hostias were taken to the hospital in helicopters where they were united with their families. All of them are from Kibbutz near Oves, but there are still nearly 20 women and children that have not been released and reportedly Hamas doesn't even know where they all are, having passed them, the crime families and other unknown entities, including the 10 month old baby Kherbibaz, mother and sibling. The IDF intelligence suggests they were traded by Hamas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip. Local channel 12 reporting that one of the released hostias revealed in the early days of the war they were taking the Khan Yunus, where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader, Yahya Sinwar, who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them en Kibro. Now we are joined in the studio by defense and government commentator Amir Oran, as well as our senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Regev. I want to open with you, Amir, on the status of the ceasefire itself. Everyone's wondering how long can it be extended for? The military has lost all its momentum. There's still a mission of destroying Hamas to accomplish. These two goals, ultimately, at odds with each other. The ceasefire is in effect on, at least, through Saturday night. Why am I saying that? What's the special prominence of Saturday night? Because Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, who is now at NATO conference in Brussels, is on his way to Israel, the West Bank, and then the UAE. And he has announced before coming to the region that he is about to talk about the humanitarian problems of Gaza and getting the foreign nationals, including Americans, not the hostages, but those residing in Gaza out. They have problems there. And eventually, to work for a two-state solution, which is what Netanyahu does not want. Now, as long as the US Secretary of State is in the region, it doesn't make sense for Israel to stop the ceasefire and resume military operations because this would indicate one of the two, either that the US was complicit in this decision or that Israel has done what the US has asked it not to do. These two options are untenable anyway. So at least until the beginning of next week, it's quite practical to look at the trade as on. And Jonathan, practically speaking, given 10 days of ceasefire that Amir has just said is very likely in the cards, how much can Hamas build up their defenses and what is being done to Israel's military readiness in this time? To Israel's military readiness, nothing is done because the readiness is there. But what happens on the other side, that's a different story because Hamas now has the time to recuperate, rearm itself, fix communication lines that were perhaps hit and brought out of effect. So this is basically giving the time for Hamas to regroup, to rearm themselves. And there's no Israeli presence in the area of Rafa, for example. The tunnels are still there. Things can come in from Egypt. We can assume that they do. Their tunnels are wide enough for trucks to come in. So things can come in. And if and when the ceasefire will end, Israel will find an enemy that had time to rest, regroup and be more ready for the fight. Israel is ready. The army is ready to begin as of this minute. The original ceasefire was supposed to expire three hours ago. That didn't happen. It's now been being extended at least until Thursday. I agree that as long as Secretary of State Anthony Blinken is here, Israel will not engage probably in a major, major ground offensive. And the readiness as far as Israel is there, this clearly helps the other side. But as difficult as it is, I think the army and practically almost everyone in Israel understands that this is a price worth paying for the reward that Israel is getting. And that is, of course, also. We should put an esterisk on everything that Jonathan said, which is completely true. If during this time some new intelligence is developed and some planning for a brilliant coup, some operation which we have not seen during the heavy ground manoeuvre with tanks and infantry, if that develops in the Israeli IDF headquarters and once the fighting resumes or in order to conduct this operation, fighting resumes, we see either many hostages being rescued in a lightning raid or Sinoir and his colleagues again being killed in such a raid, then what we are now seeing is moot. We're going to see how that develops, but a massive intelligence coup that we have not seen yet. Anyway, before we continue this discussion, I want to turn to our correspondent Robert Swift, who is standing by a hostages square in Tel Aviv. Rob, with all the developments that we've seen over the course of the morning, the statements of extending ceasefires, but also the knowledge of not knowing where many of the hostages even are. What are people in hostages squares saying? So this location has become essentially a focal point for the Israeli public to focus their thoughts with regards to the hostages. Both those who have been returned, but more importantly, the many who are still left inside Gaza. And now, something that we've noticed this morning is a large amount of the public who are here are, in fact, school children. We've seen several groups of students along with their teachers who have been here essentially to have a look at what's the displays that are out here at the posters of those who are missing. And it's clear that many of the teachers are talking their students through the events of the last six weeks, explaining to them and sort of helping them process what has occurred here, bearing in mind that many of these students, their older teenagers, who in the coming years will likely be serving in the Israeli military. So let's have a listen to what one of those teachers had to say to us. I think what's happening in this country now is very important. It's maybe life changing for this country. And so it's almost our duty to understand this, really understand this and sort of understand what people are going through, not just through what they hear on social networks, but to see it with their own eyes. It's historic, it's dramatic, and it's the human thing to do, share this experience. Thank you very much, Rob, for that voice from the Israeli streets on the situation that we find ourselves embroiled in. We're going to return now to the studio. Once again, Amir, we've been talking about the hostages. We've been talking about the military, but we do have to look back an annual report detailing the depths of the intelligence failure that led to the situation that we're in. Are its local media reporting that signal intelligence had picked up for months before the October 7th raid and massacre, that there was training for the raid. There were drills for the raid, that there were plans for a total liquidation and genocide of the residents of these kibbutzim. In fact, during the training drills, they even said they had killed every member of the kibbutz. How did the Israeli intelligence and the political and strategic establishments drop the ball just that they had given what we know now to be mountains of evidence? So there are many dimensions to this problem. Yes, what you are recounting is probably true. There were indications being picked up that a plan by Hamas is being hatched. That does not mean that even that intelligence analyst or her colleagues found evidence de que hay intenciones para poner este plan en uso y especialmente no durante ningún tiempo específico. Así que vamos a mover de la rama de la inteligencia de este particular unito o de este particular analista que fue muy brillante para suponerse y para alertar a superiores donde se han perdido. Esto, digamos, se habría creado. Esto habría sido una contingencia, entre muchos, y la mayoría de la atención israelí a Hamas se enfocó en los rocares. Cuando picking up algunas indicaciones de que Hamas está planeando algo grande, algo desconocido, se creó que esto es otro barraje de rocares. No se enfocó en la posibilidad de una operación de la tierra y se creó que la operación de la tierra a través de los barros no es más valida para Hamas. Luego se movió a otro nivel. Digamos que la inteligencia ha indicado que esto es una posibilidad real. ¿Qué es el lado de la operación de la casa? La división operación en las cuartas de IDF, el comandado de salvo, la división de Gaza. ¿Qué están haciendo con este particular informe especialmente si el informe no se enfoca en una posibilidad específica? Y después de lo que hemos dicho, Israel es bastante útil para sorprender a una escala muy pequeña, excepto de Yom Kippur, por supuesto, excepto en octubre 6 de 1973. Si un perpetuador ha podido cruzar la defensa y llevar a los equipos y matar a varias personas, esto podría haber sido imaginado. Pero por la toda frontera, simultáneamente, un sueño, esto fue más allá de la imaginación. Así que, incluso si hubiera una pieza de información salió de la oción de noticias y noticias que la inteligencia siempre tiene. Tienes el tratamiento iraniano, tienes el Xizbala, y tienes el Bank West, en la lista tienes Gaza, y en la lista en Gaza tienes esta posibilidad remote de alguien intentando penetrar a Israel. Y en esa lista tienes la posibilidad que es muy remote que no es un perpetuador o un 10, pero es 3,000. Este tipo de cascadilla de desafíos de inteligencia y desafíos o algo solo perdidos en el sonido de inteligencia es que no es solo octubre 7, pero la guerra en general, la militaría dice, que están más que listos para continuar la operación después del Xizbala, pero podríamos estar mirando una situación similar de inteligencia, desafíos de inteligencia, el sonido de inteligencia que no sabemos jamás sus capacidades de verdad protegiendo 10 días para reestablar las sorpresas nazistas. Bueno, tenemos dos piezas de evidencia que aportan a la correcta de la asunción en tu pregunta. Primero, Israel no sabía por cierto que los hostegers estuvieron en el hospital Chifa en el principio, al menos en octubre 7, y no tenían posiciones de los vídeos de cámara de seguridad que luego se mostraron. Esto es una pieza de evidencia. Y el otro es que algunos de los hostegers todavía salieron de la parte norte de Gaza, que es ostensibly under control de Israel. Habiendo dicho todo eso, Israel tiene más inteligencia durante sus operaciones defensivas que durante sus operaciones defensivas. Israel no ha conseguido inteligencia en el Kibbutzim como un objetivo para la asunción de jamás. Y por eso, incluso cuando los hostegers pudieron ayudar, no sabían quién es dónde. Comenzan todos los desafíos. Vamos a continuar en un brief moment, pero vamos a poner un report de algunos de nuestros reportadores. Primero, eso es, el aftermath del 7 de octubre. Israel ha abierto un nuevo recorrido para los habitantes y sus familias de la nova masacre. Se ha abierto en la ciudad de Rejovot y nuestro Yuri Shapira y Erika Jackson están mostrando lo que ha sido hecho para desplazar a las personas. Este pequeño pub cerca de la ciudad de Rejovot, en el sur de Tel Aviv, es llamado Adama Tovah o Good Earth en Hebron. Se ha vuelto un gathering y un centro de tratamiento para los habitantes de la nova masacre de la masacre de octubre 7. Todos los que participan tienen un recorrido de los que usan drogas psicodélicas. Uno de los problemas más grandes en este caso es que muchos personas usan drogas psicodélicas. Otro problema es que el evento sucedió durante el sur. Una de las más significativas en la partida, un tiempo mágico que se hizo muy mal. Mi partner, Yif Tach and I, decidió abrir el centro porque sabemos esta comunidad y sabemos que esta comunidad fue una de las primeras que se pusieron al lado. El centro también es open a familias de los que se murieron y se abducaron. Uno de ellos es Yossi Habani, su hija, 22 años chiqueta, fue murderada por Hamas en el masacre. Nos venimos dos o tres veces a una semana. Nos obtenemos energía y aire por un par de horas. Es muy difícil. Llevas control de muchas cosas. Puedo llorar cada segundo o llorar cada segundo. Llevo mi habilidad de controlar mi humedad y mi todo el cuerpo está en estrés. Estoy muy confuso. Llevo mi hija. La más difícil de cantar es la noche porque luego estoy solo. También llorar es difícil. Mi hija y yo lloran todo el tiempo. Llevo y me pregunté ¿Dónde es Shakid? Nos encontramos también a Aviv, un surviviente de la festival. Aviv trabajó en la partida y se ha survivido. Él habla de sus dificultades y obstáculos, pero también de sus esperanzas y sueños. Es un periodo muy difícil en mi vida. Tengo que ver el buen en la vida. El hecho de que he survivido y también he salvado otro couple ahí. En order a recuperar tengo que encontrar buenas ideas y seguir a spreadar el amor en la vida. Con todo lo que hicieron a nosotros, no vamos a dejar de luchar, bailar, salir y ir creciendo. Y la próxima vez vamos a salir y vamos a ser más joven y vamos a tener más divertidos que nosotros. Todos lo esperamos a partir de nuevo. La recorrida es abierta tres veces por semana y también tiene una concerta de música. Los participantes y la crew venen más de un centro de tratamiento pero como comunidad. Uno de muchos que ha evolucionado después de octubre 7. Y vamos a regresar a nuestro panel de discusión aquí en el estudio. Vamos a hablar, por supuesto, de la aftermath de eso y de la situación. Si esto va a extender la cifra hasta el sábado, como dices, Hamas va a extender a mujeres y niños para extender. Dicen que van a bajar más duro para los hombres. ¿Pero va a cambiar los términos de la visión? Si tú vas aенноar y si no vas a extender lo que te pasó saben que el pueblo va a extender con un desgraciado de las extendedades de los mujeres y niños. Y por supuesto que van a extender los términos Por supuesto, el apoyo, especialmente los atletas, debería ser regalado inmediatamente. Pero, por lo menos, si hay una oportunidad de obtener a alguien, un bebé de 25 años, si, Israel podría hacer eso, incluso si significa que no hay 10, pero hay 8, o incluso un número más, un número más bajoso, por lo menos, como las personas están regresando, el público israelí, puedes ver el opinión público, puedes ver el modo de rechazar, cada vez un grupo viene en. El público israelí no podría dejar que su gobierno arbitrariamente decide que lo suficiente es suficiente, porque Hamas no puede encontrar o al menos reclamar que no puede encontrar. Por supuesto, eso está sucediendo en el mismo tiempo que el militarismo es prometido para continuar la operación, si Hamas ha conseguido extender la incertidumbre por cambiar el precio, eso sería mucho más difícil. Primero, quiero traer al ministro de defensa que dice que, aunque extender la incertidumbre, la guerra es solo una pausa temporaria. También hablan a los grupos de la guerra. Son solo una resistencia mucho más estifera de Hamas, que ha tenido la oportunidad de fortalecer posiciones y reestabilizar las cadenas de comandos. No nos detienen hasta que terminemos el trabajo. Ahora tienes días, teas organizadas, descuidas, traen, arrangas tus vestidos, organizas tu equipamiento, hablas con tus amigos de la casa y tus padres, nos volverá a combinar, usaremos la misma fuerza y más. Esto es el trabajo ahora. Recuerda que mientras estás organizando, descuidando y investigando, el enemigo también está haciendo lo mismo. No harás la misma resistencia que fue al final, pero algo que será más preparado. We will know how to walk with them. We will know how to walk with them, we will know how to walk with them, we will know how to walk with them. Fentminster Gallant y el Comandos Militarios son como coches, right after the first half of the game is over and during the brief 15 minutes or so between halves they are trying to give a PecTalk to the players and the players are quite down because they know that their team is not very successful, they are down at the whistle. And in order for them to go back and believe that the mission is achievable, their superiors must tell them that it is so. Now the political echelon of course has the last words or at least the penultimate, the next to last word because the last word is going to be President Biden's. So whatever these soldiers believe they can do while training for a resumption of the war is completely out of their control. And it's not just going to be between the soldiers and the political classes, but the military is also weighing in on the role of international agencies. The Red Crosses mandate and a failure to do their duty to the hostages as well. Just hear from Daniel Higari on this. Over 150 of our hostages, men, women, children, babies, who is taking care of them? Who is holding a 10 months old baby, Khvir Bivas? I'll tell you, ruthless terrorists are holding him hostage in Gaza. We call on the international organization, especially the Red Cross, to use every tool at their disposal to gain access to our hostages, to make sure they're receiving the medical care they need. Our hostages are not lost. We won't sit around and hope they're found. We will rescue our hostages at all costs. I'm going to turn back to you, Jonathan, because the Israelis want to see the Red Cross do more, but ultimately what power does the Red Cross have? Amos tiene 40,000 hombres con Colashnikov, el Red Cross tiene ambulancias. El Red Cross, lo has dicho exactamente correctamente. El Red Cross tiene no poder. They take whatever is given to them. Y eso es todo. Creo que no podemos esperar el Red Cross para entrar, pero creo que el dolor en Israel es una de las críticas fuertes a Israel, de estas mismas organizaciones. En una de las manos, hay un fuerte crítica de Israel que viene de la Red Cross, de las Naciones Unidas, de la Organización Mundial, sobre el número de víctimas en Gaza, que existe. No puede negar eso. La pregunta es, por qué ha sucedido y por qué ha sucedido. En el lado de Israel es muy claro, es porque Hamas está tomando estas personas como héroes de la humanidad. Se está operando en toneladas, en hospitales, en escuelas, en casas, y eso es por por qué las civilizaciones están asesinadas. Así que los israelíes no entienden por qué, en la una mano, hay mucho crítica al número de víctimas en Gaza, que viene de la factura de que Hamas está tomando las víctimas como héroes de la humanidad. Y, por el otro lado, no hay respuesta a las demandas de Israel de la reunión de los hostes israelíes. Sabemos que el uno de los hostes que regresaron en una condición de vida, Elma Avraham, que todavía está hospitalizada en Soroka, su situación podría haber sido mucho mejor. ¿Había sido lejos de la medicina que necesita y de la medicina que necesita en las siete semanas que ella estaba en captividad? Pero eso no sucedió, porque nadie llegó a dar la medicina. La medicina estaba ahí, podría haber sido transferida de la familia, a la Red Cross en Israel, a la Red Cross en Gaza y a los hostes. Pero fue detrás, no sucedió. Así que el ángar aquí es exactamente contra un double estándar de estas organizaciones, y, por el otro lado, no está ayudando a todo, con el mandato de los hostes. Sí, están ayudando a facilitar el recorrido de los hostes a Israel. Eso es cierto. ¿Cómo sobre el segundo estándar, mirando a los hostes en Gaza? Eso no ha sido hecho. Y cuando Admiral Hagari dice que Little Emily Hand no fue perdido y encontrado, él obviamente ha referido al ministro de la Irlandia, que, a lo mejor, o por otra razón, ha dicho que cómo feliz es que una niña fue perdida, como si era una niña roja de rojo en las hojas, y luego se encontró miraculously. Así que, no. Israel irá y llegará a los hostes, si no están liberados. Creo que tenemos menos que un minuto left para hablar de esto, pero las condiciones malas que han sido describidas por el curso, ¿es una posibilidad real que Israel termina en su misión? ¿Es una posibilidad real? ¿Es una posibilidad real que Israel termina en su misión? ¿Es una posibilidad real que Israel termina en su misión? ¿Es una posibilidad real que Israel termina en su misión? No. Israel nunca admitirá que perdió la guerra, incluso si los analistas de la presidencia luego lo judgeen. Israel irá y pesura dos de sus warrails, lanzando los hostes, que es ahora la prioridad más alta, y un roto o desventalando el mecanismo de Hamas en Gaza, por la fuerza o la diplomacia. De acuerdo, a lo largo de la historia, los de Israel y la región tendrán que usarlo para una idea que una de estas opciones debería usar, porque Israel no coexistirá con Hamas, los residentes no van a volver a sus hogares si es el resultado. Y el gobierno tendrá que ir, por supuesto. No solo va a ir, son los más revolucionarios eventos en la historia de Israel. Te lo digo al menos. Os agradezco a ambos de ustedes. may be a hopeful vision of the future, though we're not exactly in the clearest place to see it right now for everyone else though we are out of time at least for now, but we will see you again in just about a half hour at the top of 11 o'clock local time in our next broadcast as we give you all sorts of updates from the war and from the hostage situation that Israel finds itself in. Until then, thanks for watching and we'll see you again in the not too distant future is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. The I 24 news is ongoing coverage of Israel at war, a fragile and temporary ceasefire has been extended by two days to exchange more hostages for security prisoners. It's a deal that will see 20 more abducted women and children released by the Hamas terror organization and 60 more convicted terrorists freed by Israel. Qatar and the United States have confirmed the details, though Israel says there's no deal until it actually happens. 11 more hostages were released last night, nine children. All their fathers though remain in captivity. All the children are in stable condition, according to Eklav Hospital. The one you've all angle is in a wheelchair from her injuries. All the hostages were taken to the hospital in helicopters where they reunited with their families, all of them from Kibbutz near O's. But there are still nearly 60 women and children that have not been released and reportedly Hamas does not even know where most of them are having passed them to crime families and other unknown entities, including the 10 month old baby Kherbibaz, as well as that baby's mother and sibling. IDF intelligence suggests they were traded by Hamas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip. Local Channel 12 reporting that one of the released hostages has revealed that in the early days of the war, they were taken to Han Yunes, where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader, Yahya Sinwar, who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in Hebrew. Now before anything else, though, we are going to go to our correspondent Robert Swift joining us from Hostages Square in Tel Aviv. Robert, what is the general voice of the Israeli public right now, the war on hold, the goal of destroying Hamas, delay, but more of Israel's missing women and children being returned? Indeed, Israel, the Israeli public at the moment seems very much fixated on the objective of returning as many hostages as possible. It's likely that this is part of the reason for the Israeli government agreeing to continue the ceasefire, as it tries to get back as many of those people as it can. Now, coming to the square here, we have seen groups of students with their teachers touring the artwork and the memorial scenes here, but we've also been speaking to members of the public. Many of the people, in fact, probably most of the people who are coming here to what has become known as Hostages Square, they don't have direct connections, don't have direct family members involved in the hostages, but they very much feel connected to the families who are in that situation and to the collective trauma of the attacks of 7th October. And let's have a listen to what one of those members of the public said to us a little earlier. It's very hard for me. It's very hard for me. It's a very difficult mental experience. I'm the daughter of Holocaust survivors. We have already been through a Holocaust. And now it's even worse than a Holocaust. It all comes back. I've always said, after the Holocaust, the land of Israel is a place for Jews. And now what happens to our home? Where is our home? It's a very big, very big heartache. Thank you very much, Robert, for that voice from the streets of Israel and how the public in general is taking this situation. Now, for more on this, though, we are joined in studio by Dr. Avi Bitsour, head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at Bait Burl Academic College. Avi, thank you very much for being with us. Thank you. One of the things that has struck me about this war is the freedom of movement that Hamas has had using the tunnel network the entire time, releasing hostages from other parts of Gaza, from where they were brought in, Yaqa Sinwar's ability to move about these tunnels freely during the entire thing. Ultimately, has Israel even been accomplishing anything? Looker, first of all, thank you. Second, let me congratulate the 50 that released. It's something that make the Israeli people laugh a little bit. It's something that it's part of our resilience as a nation, very important. And I'm going to your question. The Hamas had plenty of time, many years, to build what they call the metro. And it's a metro rail. It's a metro. It's hundreds of kilometers of tunnels that go everywhere so they can go freely from Hanunas, let's say, to Gaza. And if they want that we will not see their movements and because we cannot practice in the time of the truth, the planes or anything else to watch for intelligence, what they are doing, they can move anywhere, first of all. Second, the tunnels are and will be the main problem when we will carry on the wall because we have to get rid of them. But there is a paradox. If you want to get rid of the tunnels, you can do some projects that if you will ask I will tell and they vanished, make the tunnels vanished, but inside there are the refugees. You heard yesterday one of the older women that released from the prison, let's say, she described five floors to go down to the place where she was kept. Five floors. So there is a problem. If you want to take control of it, let's say, let's send army. But look, Ariel, it's a tunnel. In a tunnel, even the, let's say, let's say, the scenes, the Navy scenes, okay, the best troopers of Israel, okay, they cannot use all their ability to fire. Only the first that's going in a tool can use it. It's nothing. And it's very dangerous. So let's bomb it. You will bomb it, but you will bomb it with the hostages inside so you cannot do it. You know what? Let's close it, that they will have no air and bury them. Can we do it? Yes. Suppose we have something that I call, suppose, okay, sponge bomb. Sponge, what is sponge bomb? A bomb that is explode, doesn't make any damage, but it contains two chemicals from different size and the measures that are combined together and make something that come to be a cement. You are selling all the entrances to the pier or to the tunnel. A tomb. Suppose, I don't know if it's ready. As it doesn't, as it, I'm telling you, okay? We cannot do it. The refugees inside, we cannot do it. And you know what? People must realize. When you speak about 167 or 77, the number is not important to the Hamas. They know very well that even one for us or two or seven, it's the same like 167. Yes. We are all in the country are speaking about the beavers, the brothers, okay? So cute kids. So important to release them, but it's important to release all the others. They know it. It's something that we, as Israel, doesn't understand. When come the time that you will understand them, this is the time that we will gain all we are praying for. Why? When you are coming to the kidnap square, for you and for me, it's something that make your emotion. I saw your eyes. You are speaking about square with pictures of children and women and kids. And what is this, that kidnap? For them? Look, on a real, on Avibetsu. They are going to cry. It's important to say it. This is, from one side, our ability, okay, to be with strength, with immunity, with stability, Israeli people. But the other nations around in the Middle East doesn't understand it. We must realize it. We have to finish what we begun. We have. And to actually expand on this, we are going to look directly at the fate of those hostages right now that we have gotten back. Pierre Kloschenler, our reporter, is at Ikelev Hospital right now, where they have been discussing and updating the press, as well as the families and the people of Israel as a whole, on just what's going on with Israel's now return to children. Pierre, what is going on? Well, the children are sleeping right now, and this is why the press conference that was supposed to update us about their condition has been postponed because the doctors want to check the children beforehand. Nine children, two mothers, are together in some compound protected from visitors, protected from the press. Only family is allowed to reunite with them. There are different stories, but what's in common between all of them is that they all come from Kibbutz near Oz. Kibbutz, which was the site of one of the most horrific massacres on October 7. 100 israelis killed, 18 agricultural workers killed, 77 people abducted to Gaza, 49 still in captivity after the release in two batches of some of the members of the Kibbutz, and this is a very close-knit society, so you can imagine that the mothers and the children que están aquí en el hospital conocen a todos los miembros de Kibbutz, conocen sobre sus familiares que han sido matados, conocen sobre los que han sido abductados, conocen sobre las acuentancias que han sido matadas. Así que es una situación muy psicológica y su situación emocional ha sido asesada constantemente, pero es un proceso largo que irá más allá de la hospitalización de los niños y familias. Ahora, hay todavía ocho niños o nueve niños que están sigo en captivity, y el problema es que pueden estar en captivity en otras fachas terrestres, fachas dentro de la Gaza Strip, por ejemplo, Etaña Alomi, un 12-year-old, que fue lanzado en la noche a 12.30, en la noche a 12.30. Él fue kidnapped sin su padre, su padre fue kidnapped separadamente, su padre murió dentro del Kibbutz para defender el Kibbutz, fue maravilloso, eso es lo que sabemos de él. Etaña regresó, pero su esposa, sus dos esposas y madres también fueron kidnapped, pero en la última minera, antes de cruzar a la Gaza Strip, ellos pudieron escapar. Otro ejemplo es los dos esposas, son sólo tres años, y eso convierte en la fe de Ariel Bibas, quien es cuatro, y Kfir Bibas, quien es 10 años, y quien está sigo en captivity. Orr y Yagil Yaakov fueron haldos por los terroristas palestinianos islámicos, no por los terroristas jama. También sabemos que Yuval, 11, que regresó con un castillo en sus puestos, fue probablemente maravilloso durante su kidnapping. Así que hay todo tipo de historias que son muy diferentes de uno a otro, pero al mismo tiempo, el mismo denominador común, todos los padres de estas cinco familias están en las manos de Hamas o otras factiones palestinianos. Es una situación de la noche, Pierre, que esperamos para una resolución. Gracias por la noticia sobre las condiciones de las personas que tenemos que regresar, mientras manteniendo en mente cuántos no tenemos. Vamos a ser acompañados ahora con Dr. Camilla Fricas-Levon, practicador y psicológico y consultador organizado. Camilla, sabemos que algunos de las condiciones de estos niños fueron haldos en la noche, malnourazados, no seeing the light of day, in constant terror of what will happen next, not knowing the conditions of their families. We can talk about the psychological damage as well. I mean, what are these children facing now they're back because they might be back physically. That doesn't mean they're all back mentally. So it's a very, very good question and I'm happy that you're raising it. We are only going to be finding out the trauma for each one of them and definitely there is going to be trauma, right? And they do need to of course have the assistance and the families need to have the assistance. It's very, very important that they have the proper services, not only for the children, but also for adults in their lives. And I'm going to go back to the children for just a second. I want to focus on the adults because how they will be received and how they will be treated and the environment that they will have will be very important in their healing and going forward, right? So we also don't know what condition each one was being held, if they were held together, if they were held separately, how they were treated during the stay over there. Were people kind to them because their children yes or were they not so kind and to each one maybe they had a different experience. So it is likely also that let's say the people were kind to them, maybe there were other children that they were with yes. So it could be that they also developed feelings of attachment to their captors, which we do see sometimes with people that do return from captivity and especially for children. So they might actually find themselves missing the people that were holding them if they were again, if they were nice or depending on the situation. So this is also something that will need to be handled with love and care and patience and with appropriate therapy. That's what I'm saying. That's very, very important that the people around them also are being helped in order to know how to handle the situation. And of course, for some, as you just talked about, for some, somehow the family members are still also back there. So it could be very, very, very confusing, especially for a child. Yes. I mean, it's confusing for an adult as well. I mean, what sort of psychological strategies are there to even cope with this sort of situation? There are different kinds of therapies. So, for example, there's one therapy that's very, very effective, where you actually talk to a primary caregiver or someone that's very close to a child. And the child, again, depends on the age, yes. And the child will be just playing in the room. And it seems like they're not doing anything like we're not talking to them or anything like that except children. By the way, this is a very important point for all the parents out there when they think that while the child is in the room or some adjacent room, they're actually not listening to you when you're on a phone or arguing or talking to somebody about something that maybe it's not appropriate for a child to hear. They hear you even though they might look like they're playing and they actually are playing, but they do also hear you. This type of therapy is very, very effective. Sometimes it's even more effective than actually talking directly to the child, right? So it's very important to know, to normalize the situation in terms of the situation is crazy, obviously, but in terms of the feelings and emotions and experiences that the child might have. The normalization is very important. Play therapy is very important because, again, through play a lot of things come through drawing, painting, a lot of like party experiences. Yes, things to be able to catch from different directions for a child, not just for talk therapy. And again, depends on the age of the child, how young and how the development itself. Camila, one of the things we saw was a policy put in place to greet the hostages when they return to try to restore some sense of security. Children being greeted by soldiers who told them they're safe now. These children have experienced firsthand that that's not true, haven't they? If that's the case, how are you going to restore a sense of security to an entire generation that has seen firsthand that no, the government, the military, their parents can't keep them safe from the monsters? It's a beautiful, brilliant question. And one of the things that I think is very, very important to understand is that we are surrounded by different countries that maybe not everyone wishes us well. At the same time, we are armed literally to our teeth and we are a very, very strong country. The problem is that sometimes clearly mistakes are made or something is happening on the background that maybe we don't know yet and who knows if we'll ever find out yes. But overall, we do know that we have protected ourselves for many, many, many years. We have built ourselves and something like this has never happened and hopefully it will never happen again because now we're way more prepared and hopefully we'll grow our healthy paranoia to a much bigger scale, right? So once they were already out and once they're greeted by the soldiers, I think it's very important to do tell them that yes, you are safe, you are back, you are here. And again, the work that we're doing and some of it is undercover, some of it is more prominent is very, very strong and on a massive, massive scale. So something like this, I do not foresee to be happening any time or ever. Camila, certainly there are therapies, there are strategies to help most people, but most isn't all. What happens to those that ultimately can't recover? It's a very good question and I can tell you from, I don't know if you know this, but like most of my experience is actually also to training and before, even before he started studying psychology, which is kind of interesting, but I worked with the torture victims and their families for years and years and I'm still involved with them as well. So there is exactly what you're saying. There are different kind of therapeutic techniques that will lead a person to a certain level. Sometimes the trauma though is so big that all you can do is basically hold the individual but not necessarily heal them completely, yes? And that's something that's important to understand. As they grow, there are different therapies including psychedelics and things like that that we see now that are doing something that we by talk therapy or any other therapies just cannot get to because the trauma is so deep. But therapies like this, of course, with the properly trained therapists when the proper environment seem to be, not seem to be, they are. They are very, very helpful and so there is like a hope at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully, again, because children are children because they're very, very resilient and they were treated hopefully in a humane way while being there because they are children, hopefully their trauma isn't gonna be as deep and again they will heal with proper care very, very well. But if that doesn't happen and if the residual is still there it's good to remember that our technology, our knowledge in terms of healing and what we can offer is going forward. So hopefully by the time they're a little bit older there are different therapies that they will be able to explore as well. And again, I cannot stress enough the family members or whoever's around them do please go because you are traumatized well. Please do go to therapy as well and also do understand that you need to know what to do with the children at home and the calmer you are, the more able you are to hold their experience meaning the more you work on yourself the more you're able to also increase the prognosis that is good for the children as well. Very, very important. It has to be a systematic kind of approach. Well, thank you very much Camilla to know that despite all the horror that we've seen there is at least some hope ahead that there will be healing, that there will be some restoration of normalcy and restoration of so many shattered lives. Amen, amen. Amen. We're going now to see some of that sort of touching reunion. This is Aetsanya Halomi, 12 years old, released last night as part of the fourth group of Israeli hostages. Despite that his father Ohad is still captive in Gaza held by Hamas but in the image you can see when he comes off the helicopter and is greeted by family on his way to the hospital for further treatment just one out of hundreds you can see him with his mother in that picture one out of hundreds of hostages though 50 now returned home with 20 more slated to be released over the coming two days. The question on everyone's mind is how much longer that will extend will we be able to see more greetings like this and more reunions like this going forward? Well, that's anyone's guess. We're going now to return to the studio where Avi Becer is still with us. You had mentioned and this is a topic that we have discussed at length over the course of the past almost a week of ceasefire now. Ultimately how long it's extended for because Hamas can play on everybody's heartstrings with the hostages. They can keep Israel's military from hitting their deepest targets. They can keep Israel in a state of ceasefire depending on the rate they release people with for months now. How does Israel attain its goals? Is there a point when Israel says, look, the military goal of defeating Hamas is going to come with a cruel calculus towards the hostages but it needs to be done. Look real, to be sincere and to be right and to be correct, Israel will never, will never. I'm saying my opinion open again the file anywhere if she still has a little belief that we can get out any hostages. Hamas knows it very well and Hamas I think will try to use these two days of the 20 and I will not be surprised Israel if you will hear tonight or tomorrow we want another five days because we have another 40 peoples, people let's say. First of all, second, Israel must wait until she can make the last try, the last agreement, the last whatever thing to get out an hostage and to begin this war. To begin we must crush Hamas, we must gain our deterrence back. We must take off this little snake in the south and begin to take and I believe that there are people that are thinking now about the monster in the east, Hezbollah and about the real best in Iran because this is the play of them. They are playing, they are playing chess. I've said it in this studio, not with you. You know, you know who invented the chess play? Everybody was said to be the Chinese. No, it's the Iranian and the Iranian know to play chess and they are playing with the hoots and they are playing with Hezbollah and they are playing with Hamas. They are doing nothing. Their hands are clean supposedly and we must realize we must carry on this war. Hamas will do everything he can to take on this ceasefire another couple of days another four days, another five days he will try to collect sorry to say the word like they are chickens, sorry. All the hostages that I want to correct your correspondent it's not the Jihad it's the national front of the it's it's not important another another Palestinians terrorists that are not Jihad and there are people hostages that are in the family of the crime organized crime in disaster. Find them, try. Hamas will try to gain them to make groups that it can carry on the agreement. We must finish what we began with there is no other way we must then begin to think about Hezbollah. The hoots are not making me so deeply going thinking because let's put the cards on the table. Okay, their missiles are coming to a lot the best of them en 20 minutos so every AFF 35 or let's say the aerial system will drop it down and what they are doing in the sea it's a problem of the world. Absolutely and Avi all going down to sea coming forward and again I say Israel does have the will to finish Yes, of course thank you very much for your analysis we are just about out of time on our show but we will end with a very touching reunion three children Buryat, Yuval and Ophry Broditz freed from Hamas and Gaza now at Schneider's Children Hospital seeing their family dog Rodney for the first time in seven weeks the family said they knew nothing would make the children happier and of course feel more like they're at home again than seeing Rodney after their ordeal so they brought the dog to the hospital department and you can see this reunion this is ultimately what Israel is fighting for 24 years this ongoing coverage of Israel at war a fragile and temporary ceasefire has been extended by two days to exchange more hostages for security prisoners it's a deal that will see 20 more abducted women and children released by the Hamas terror organization and 60 more convicted terrorists freed by Israel Qatar and the United States have confirmed the details though Israel says there's no deal until it actually happens 11 more hostages were released last night nine children all their fathers though remain in captivity all the children are in stable condition according to Ikelev hospital the one Yuval Engel is in a wheelchair from her injuries all the hostages were taken to the hospital in helicopters where they reunited with their families all of them from Kibbutz near O's but there are still nearly 60 women and children that have not been released and reportedly Hamas does not even know where most of them are having passed them to crime families and other unknown entities including the 10 month old baby Fier Bibas as well as that baby's mother and sibling IDF intelligence suggests they were traded by Hamas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip local channel 12 reporting that one of the released hostages has revealed that in the early days of the war they were taken to Hanyunas where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader Yahya Sinwar who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in Hebrew now before anything else though we are going to go to our correspondent Robert Swift joining us from Hostages Square in Tel Aviv Robert what is the general voice of the Israeli public right now the war on hold the goal of destroying Hamas delay but more of Israel's missing women and children being returned indeed Ariel the Israeli public at the moment seems very much fixated on the objective of returning as many hostages as possible it's likely that this is part of the reason for the Israeli government agreeing to continue the ceasefire as it tries to get back as many of those people as it can now coming to the square here we have seen groups of students with their teachers touring the artwork and the memorial scenes here but we've also been speaking to members of the public many of the people in fact probably most of the people who are coming here to what has become known as Hostages Square they don't have direct connections don't have direct family members involved in the hostages but they very much feel conected to the families who are in that situation and to the collective trauma of the attacks of 7th October and let's have a listen to what one of those members as the public said to us a little earlier it's very hard for me it's very hard for me it's a very difficult mental experience I'm the daughter of Holocaust survivors we have already been through a Holocaust and now it's even worse than a Holocaust it all comes back I've always said after the Holocaust the land of Israel is a place for Jews and now what happens to our home where is our home it's a very big very big heartache thank you very much Robert for that voice from the streets of Israel and how the public in general is taking this situation now for more on this though we are joined in studio by Dr. Avi Bitsour head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at Bait Burrell Academic College Avi thank you very much for being with us thank you one of the things that has struck me about this war is the freedom of movement that Hamas has had using the tunnel network the entire time releasing hostages from other parts of Gaza from where they were brought in Yaqa Sinwar's ability to move about these tunnels freely during the entire thing ultimately has Israel even been accomplishing anything look over your first of all thank you second let me congratulate the 50 was that released something that make the Israeli people laugh a little bit it's something that it's part of our resilience as a nation very important and I'm going to your question the Hamas had a plenty of time many years to build what they called the metro and it's a metro rail it's a metro it's hundreds of kilometers of tunnels that go everywhere so they can go freely from Hanunas let's say to Gaza and if they want that we will not see their movements and because we cannot practice in the time of the truth the planes or anything else to watch for intelligence what they are doing they can move anywhere first of all second the tunnels are and will be the main problem when we will carry on the wall because we have to get rid of them but there is a paradox if you want to get rid of the tunnels you can do something some projects that if you will ask I will tell and vanished make the tunnels vanished but inside are the refuges you heard yesterday one of the all the women that released from the from the Hamas prison let's say she described five floors to go down to the place where she was kept five floors so there is a problem if you want to take control of it let's say let's send army but look real it's a tunnel in a tunnel even the let's say the Seiret Matkal let's say the the sins the navy sins ok the best troopers of israel ok they cannot use all their ability to fire only the first that is going in a tool can use it it's nothing and it's very dangerous so let's bomb it you will bomb it but you will bomb it with the hostages inside so you cannot do it you know what let's close it that they will have no air and bury them can we do it yes suppose we have something that i call suppose suppose ok sponge bomb sponge what is sponge bomb a bomb that is explode doesn't make any damage but it contains two chemicals from different size and the measures that are combined together and make something that it come to be a cement you are selling all the entrances to the pier or to the tunnel a tomb suppose say suppose i don't know if israeli as it doesn't as it i'm telling you ok we cannot do it the refugees inside we cannot do it and you know what people must realize when you speak about one hundred and sixty seven or six or seventy seven the number is not important to the Hamas they know very well that even one for us or two or seven it's the same like one hundred and sixty seven yes we are all in the country we are speaking about the vivas the brothers ok so cute kids so important to release them but it's important to release all the others they know it it's something that we as israelis didn't doesn't understand it when come the time that you will understand them this is the time that we would gain all we are praying for why when you are coming to the esk kidnapped square for you and for me it's something that make your emotion I saw your eyes you are you are speaking about square with pictures of children and women and kids what is this that kidnap for them look on a real on avi bitsu they are going to cry it's important to say it this is from one side our ability ok to be with strength with immunity with stability Israeli people but the other nations around in the Middle East doesn't understand it we must realize it we have to finish what we began we have and to actually expand on this we are going to look directly at the fate of those hostages right now that we have gotten back Pierre Kloschen Larry our reporter is at Ikelev Hospital right now where they have been discussing and updating the press as well as the families and the people of Israel as a whole on just what's going on with Israel's now returned children Pierre what is going on well the children are sleeping right now and this is why the press conference that was supposed to update us about their condition has been postponed because the doctors want to check the children before and nine children two mothers are together in some compound protected from visitors protected from the press only family is allowed to reunite with them there are different stories but what's in common between all of them is that they all come from Kibbutz near Oz a Kibbutz which was the site of one of the most horrific massacres on October 7th 100 Israeli killed 18 agricultores mataron 77 personas adoptaron a Gaza 49 still in captivity after the release in two batches of some of the members of the Kibbutz and this is a very close need society so you can imagine that the mothers and the children that are here at the hospital know every one of the Kibbutz members know about their relatives that have been killed know about those who have been abducted know about acquaintances that have been killed so it's a very messy psychological situation and their emotional situation is being assessed constantly but it's going to be a long process that will go beyond the hospitalization of those children and families now there's still eight kids or nine kids that are still in captivity and the problem is there might be in captivity in other terrorist factions inside the Gaza Strip for instance Etanya Alomi 12 year old who was released overnight at 12 30 at midnight 30 he was kidnapped without his father his father was kidnapped separately his father fought inside the Kibbutz to defend the Kibbutz was wounded that's all we know about him Etan returned but his sister his two sisters and mothers were also kidnapped but at the last minute before crossing into the Gaza Strip they managed to escape another example is the two twin sisters they're only three year old and that conjures up the fate of Ariel Bibas who is four and Kfir Bibas who is 10 months old and who are still in captivity Orr and Yagil Yaakov were held by Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists not by Hamas terrorists we know also that Yuval 11 has returned with a cast on her leg she was probably wounded during her kidnapping so there's all kind of stories that are very different one from another but at the same time the same common denominator all the fathers of these five families are still in the hands of Hamas or other Palestinian terrorist factions it's a nightmare situation Pierre that we're all hoping for a resolution for thank you for that update on the conditions of the people that we do have back keeping in mind how many we don't we're going to be joined now by Dr. Kamila Frakashlavan licensed practicing psychologist and organizational consultant Kamila we know some of the conditions these children were held in deep underground malnourished not seeing the light of day in constant terror of what will happen next not knowing the conditions of their families we can talk about the psychological damage as well I mean what are these children facing now they're back because they might be back physically that doesn't mean they're all back mentally so it's a very very good question and I'm happy that you're raising it we are only going to be finding out the trauma for each one of them and definitely there's going to be trauma right and they do need to of course have the assistance and the families need to have the assistance it's very very important that they have the proper services not only for the children but also for adults in their lives and I'm going to go back to the children for just a second I want to focus on the adults because how they will be received and how they will be treated and and the environment that they will have will be very important in their healing and going forward right so we also don't know what condition each one was being held if they were held together if they were held separately how they were treated during the stay over there were people kind to them because their children yes or where were they not so kind and to each one maybe they had a different experience so it is likely also that let's say the people were kind to them maybe there were other children that they were with yes so it could be that they also developed feelings of of attachment to their captures which we do see sometimes with people that do return from captivity and especially for children so they might actually find themselves missing the people that were holding them if they weren't again if they were nice or depending on the situation so this is also something that will need to be handled with love and care and patients and with appropriate therapy that's what I'm saying that's very very important that the people around them also are being helped in order to know how to handle the situation and of course for some as you just talked about for some somehow the family members are still also back there so it could be very very very confusing especially for a child yes I mean it's confusing for an adult as well I mean what sort of psychological strategies are there to even cope with this sort of situation there are different different kinds of therapies so for example there is one therapy that's very very effective where you actually talk to a primary caregiver or someone that's very close to a child and the child again depends on the AHS and the child will be just playing in the room and it seems like they're not doing anything like we're not talking to them or anything like that except children by the way this is very important point for all the parents out there when they think that while the child is in the room or someone adjacent room they're actually not listening to when you're on a phone or arguing or talking to somebody about something that maybe it's not appropriate for a child to hear they hear you even though they might look like they're playing and they actually are playing but they do also hear you this type of therapy is very very effective sometimes it's even more effective than actually talking directly to the child right so it's very important to know to like normalize the situation in terms of the situation is crazy obviously but in terms of the feelings and emotions and experiences that the child might have the normalization is very important play therapy is very important because again through play a lot of things come through drawing painting a lot of like body experiences yes things to be able to to catch from different directions for child not just for talk therapy and again depends on the age of the child how young and how the development itself yeah Camila one of the things we saw was a policy put in place to greet the hostages when they return to try to restore some sense of security children being greeted by soldiers who told them they're safe now these children have experienced firsthand that that's not true haven't they if that's the case how are you going to restore a sense of security to an entire generation that has seen firsthand that no the government the military their parents can't keep them safe from the monsters it's a beautiful brilliant question and one of the things that I think is very very important to understand is that we are surrounded by different countries that maybe not everyone wishes us you know well at the same time we are armed literally to our teeth and we are very very strong country the problem is that sometimes clearly mistakes are made or something is happening on the background that maybe we don't know yet and who knows if we'll ever find out yes but overall we do know that we have protected ourselves for many many many years we have built ourselves and something like this has never happened and hopefully it will never happen again because now we're way more prepared and hopefully we'll you know grow our healthy paranoia to a much bigger scale right so once they were already out and once they're greeted by the soldiers I think it's very important to do to do tell them that yes you are safe you are back you are here and again the work that we're doing and some of it is undercover some of it is more you know prominent is very very strong and on a massive massive scale so something like this I do not foresee to be happening anytime or ever Camila certainly there are therapies there are strategies to help most people but most isn't all what happens to those that ultimately can't recover it's a very good question and I can tell you from I don't know if you know this but like most of my experience is actually also to training and before even before he started studying psychology which is kind of interesting but I worked with the torture victims and their families for years and years and I'm still involved with them as well so there is exactly what you're saying there are different kind of therapeutic techniques that will lead a person to a certain level sometimes the trauma though is so big that all you can do is basically hold the individual but not necessarily heal them completely yes and that's something that's important to understand as they grow there are different therapies including psychedelics and things like that that we see now they are doing something that we by talk therapy or any other therapies just cannot get to because the trauma is so deep but therapies like this of course with the properly trained therapists when the proper environment seem to be not seem to be they are they are very very helpful and so there is like a hope at the end of the tunnel hopefully again because children are children because they're very very resilient and they were treated hopefully in a in a humane way while being there because they are children hopefully their trauma isn't going to be as deep and again they will heal with proper care very very well but if that doesn't happen and if the residual is still there it's good to remember that our technology our knowledge in terms of healing and what we can offer is going forward so hopefully by the time they are a little bit older there are different therapies that they will able be able to explore as well and again I cannot stress enough the family members or whoever is around them do please go because you are traumatized as well please do go to therapy as well and also do understand that you need to know what to do with the children at home and the calmer you are the more able you are to hold their experience meaning the more you work on yourself the more you are able to also increase the prognosis that is good for the children as well very very important it has to be a systematic kind of approach well thank you very much Camilla to know that despite all the horror that we've seen there is at least some hope ahead that there will be healing that there will be some restoration of normalcy and restoration of so many shattered lives amen amen we're going now to see some of that sort of touching reunion this is Itzanyah Hallomi 12 years old released last night as part of the fourth group of Israeli hostages despite that his father Ahad is still captive in Gaza held by Hamas but in the image you can see when he comes off the helicopter and is greeted by family on his way to the hospital for further treatment just one out of hundreds you can see him with his mother in that picture one out of hundreds of hostages though 50 now return home with 20 more slated to be released over the coming two days the question on everyone's mind is how much longer that will extend will we be able to see more greetings like this and more reunions like this going forward well that's anyone's guess we're going now to return to the studio where Avibet Sir is still with us you had mentioned and this is a topic that we have discussed at length over the course of the past almost a week of ceasefire now ultimately how long it's extended for because Hamas can play on everybody's heart strings with the hostages they can keep Israel's military from hitting their deepest targets they can keep Israel in a state of ceasefire depending on the rate they released it with for months now how does Israel attain its goals is there a point when Israel says look the military goal of defeating Hamas is going to come with a cruel calculus towards the hostages but it needs to be done look real to be sincere and to be right and to be correct Israel will never will never and I'm saying my opinion open again the fire anywhere if she still has a little belief that we can get out in your stage Hamas knows it very well and Hamas I think will try to use these two days of the 20 and I will not be surprised Israel if you will here tonight or tomorrow we want another five days because we have another 40 people's people let's say first of all second Israel must wait until it can she can make the last try the last agreement the last whatever thing to get out a in hostages and to begin this war to begin we must crush Hamas we must gain our deterrence back we must take off this little snake snake in the south and begin to think and I all I believe that there are people that are thinking now about the monster in the east Hezbollah and about the real best in Iran because this is the play of them they are playing they are playing chess I've said it in this studio not with you you know you know who invented the chess player everybody will say to me the Chinese no it's the Iranian and the Iranian know to play chess and they are playing with the hoots and they are playing with Hezbollah and they are playing with Hamas they are doing nothing their hands are clean supposedly and we must realize we must carry on this war Hamas will do everything he can to take on this ceasefire another couple of days another four days another five days he will try to collect sorry to say the word like the chickens sorry all those that I want to correct your correspondent it's not the jihad it's the national front of the it's it's not important another another Palestinians terrorists that are not jihad and there are people hostages that are in the family of the crime organized crime in disaster find them try Hamas will try to gain them to make groups that it can carry on the agreement we must finish what we began with there is no other way we must then begin to think about the hoods are not making me so deeply going thinking because let's put the cards on the table okay their missiles are coming to a lot the best of them in 20 minutes so every a f f 35 or let's say the aero system will drop it down and what they are doing the sea is a problem of the world absolutely and avi all going down to sea coming forward and again i said israel does have the will to finish yes of course thank you very much for your analysis we are just about out of time on our show but we will end with a very touching reunion three children urea uval and ofri broditz freed from hamas and gaza now at schneider's children hospital seeing their family dog rodney for the first time in seven weeks the family said they knew nothing would make the children happier of course feel more like they're at home again than seeing rodney after their ordeal so they brought the dog to the hospital department and you can see this reunion this is ultimately what israel is fighting for israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well 24 news is ongoing coverage of israel at war israel has released the first official video from the state of israel of a hostage returning to their family you're seeing 12 year old itaña hallomi seen on visio video entering ikalab hospital and meeting his mother for the first time for a first hug in more than 50 days the fragile and temporary ceasefire has been extended by two days to exchange more hostages for security prisoners it's a deal that will see 20 more abducted women and children released by the hamas terror organization and 60 more convicted terrorists freed by israel qatar in the united states have confirmed the details though israel maintains there is no deal until it actually happens 11 more hostages were released last night nine children all of their fathers remain in captivity all the children are in stable condition according to ikalab hospital the one you've all angle is in a wheelchair from her injuries likely sustained october 7th all the hostages were taken to the hospital and helicopters and they were reunited there with their families all from kibbutz near o's there are still at least 60 women and children that have not been released and reportedly hamas does not even know where most of them are they've passed many of them to crime families and other unknown entities including the 10 month old baby fear bibas as well as his 4 year old sibling which the idf intelligence suggests were traded by hamas to another terror group in the gaza strip local channel 12 reports that one of the released hostages revealed in the early days of the war they were taken to khan unis where they were met in the tunnels by hamas's leader yahya sinwar who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in hebron we turn now to our correspondent pere plosion there who is standing by ikalab hospital in televiv tell us what we know about the condition and the fate of the hostages that have been released so far we don't know much we know the laconic communicate that the hospital personnel published earlier that they're in a stable condition physically speaking emotionally it's going to take a long long time to assess they're going to be evaluated they're being evaluated right now the kids are still sleeping as far as we understand because they had a long nine a long night they arrived at around midnight 30 and they were reunited with their family so with all the excitement they went to sleep very late and thus now they're taking a rest now 52 days in captivity is also a very stressing period of time a long period of time and these kids need some rest obviously what we know about them is what they have in common for instance they all come from kibbutz near oz as you mentioned kibbutz que fue el sitio de una de las mascaras horificas en la que 100 israelíes y 18 trabajadores agricultores fueron matados 77 fueron abdactados 49 permanecieron en captivity lo que es común entre todas estas cinco familias de 9 niños y 2 mamas es que su padre también es abdactado su padre permaneció en captivity lo que también sabemos es lo diferente como diría lo diferente de la forma en que fueron captados por ejemplo los dos hermanos yagel y oriakov fueron ayudados por palestino islámico jihad no por jamás sabemos que etania alomi fue abdactado su padre también fue abdactado pero no estaban abdactados juntos fue abdactado con su mamá y sus dos hermanos pero en las últimas minutos estaban en un modo diferente y en las últimas minutos antes de entrar en la estación de los hermanos la madre y los dos pequeños niños se han podido escapar etan fue abandonado y su padre que defendió los kibbutz fue abdactado y abdactado no sabemos de la condición de su padre así que estas son las historias de estas personas que tienen mucho en común y al mismo tiempo son muy diferentes Pierre es definitivamente un desafío para las autoridades israelías y hay todavía mucho que no sabemos seguir adelante espero que hay algunas respuestas para eso en el futuro y los doctores pueden hacer su trabajo y asegurar que no solo están estabilizados pero regresan a sus hogares saludos también gracias muy mucho Pierre por ese reporte de la hospital de ikhlov vamos a ir a la estación ahora vamos a hablar de nuestro correspondiente a ariel o seran sobre otro tema que ha sido aclarado esto es el final signo de un conflicto entre iran y russia para que la supplya russia avance a los jefes de fighter a iran modernizar su militaridad porque los jefes de fighter que han tenido anteriormente fueron todos los leftovers de 1970 desde antes de la revolución ahora hablamos de la cuarta generación su 35 mi 28 atacas helicópteros y los jefes de entrenamiento últimamente esta modernización no es exactamente nueva esto ha sido años en el making pero es highlight las relaciones entre iran y russia right ariel desde el comienzo de la guerra russia en ucrania hemos visto una cooperación militar y coordinación entre iran y mosco principalmente con iran apoyando russia con atacas drones que han sido muy utilizadas bastante en ucrania pero realmente lo que estamos viendo ahora siendo publicado por el estado de iranía tesnima realmente indica que esto continúa a mover y es moviendo un paso adelante ahora en acuerdo a la reporta de hecho, como mencionas russia y iran finalizó un deal para llevar estos jefes russianos a jefes y helicópteros a la aeronía iraniana en lo que es esperado ser el mayor purchases por iranía aeronía en en dos décadas ahora como mencionas en acuerdo a la reporta los arrangamientos han sido finalizados para el salario de su Su-35 los jefes russianos como el mill m i 28 atacas helicópteros y el yac 130 jefes russianos esto es según al deputado ministro de defensa brigadero general maadi farahi dijo esto a tesnima ahora esto viene en a una aeronía aún no sabemos los cuantos cómo muchos cada uno hacer iran es esperado para llegar en acuerdo a la reporta el deal fue finalizado y el proceso de transferir a iran es already underway pero de iran sufrir de un aeronía como mencionas es más de los jefes en su posesión son americanos que han que han recibido antes el fallo de el shah en los 70's y ellos básicamente hicieron algunos ajustes a ellos pero esto realmente indicaría que iran es comenzar a sobre todo es un upgrade es aeronía en la una mano esto podría poner un estrés a israel y sus alias operando en la región eso es lo que quería a millones de dólares en upgrade en su aeronía si no esperan usarlo ¿es iran esperan a ser bombado en el futuro? bueno yo creo que es una pregunta que deberías preguntar israel o o el us pero si si me preguntas creo que esto no es necesariamente nuevo o preparado para cualquier eminente estrés pero de con hablar de israel y el us trabajando juntos en un tendimiento to drop plans to attack nuclear facilities on iranian soil if if and when the day comes that iran does acquire nuclear weapons so on the one hand they are showing and unrolling their new attack drones and ballistic missiles ballistic missiles that can carry these weapons but also trying to show now that they have that they're planning to upgrade their air force that can pose a counter to israel's complete dominance over any other air force in the region in terms of capabilities so as i start to say on the one hand this could potentially pose a threat to israel on the other hand these systems these jets are not something that is really that is really jets than mainly the f 35 that they cannot handle but also is really air defense systems however this does show that the region in terms of its moving forward and weapons race this is unfavorable development not only for israel but also to its allies in the region absolutely and both see going forward one how many planes and what timeframe the delivery is if russia even has the ability to supply them right now given their need in the war effort there thank you very much Ariel for explaining that situation that so we are going to return to our coverage of the hostage situation because our correspondent Robert Swift is standing by a hostage square in Tel Aviv Robert what has the reaction there been to all the new developments two day extension on the ceasefire for 20 more hostages coming home obviously some happiness but we also know that there are so many more people that are not coming home yeah i think that is a game of two halves with regards to that you know people are very happy to see the release of these hostages each new batch being returned to Israel is a sense of relief a sense of joy for israelis as a whole as well as obviously the specific families to whom they're being returned i think israelis are reveling in the moments of joy that they can take from the situation with the sharing on social media of some of these videos and pictures that are coming out of the families being reunited but at the same point here in hostages square there is still very much a thought fixed on those hostages that still remain the majority of the israelis kidnapped on the 7th of october are still in captivity and people are still you know they are very much in their thoughts a little bit earlier we spoke with with one young man who'd come here Gal Eheazker who he had come here essentially to protest and to show his support for one family that he wasn't even related to this is the the Trupinov family a family of russian immigrants who moved here to israel about 25 years ago and they have no relatives in israel themselves so he gal had felt the need to essentially protest for them on his own off his own back the father vitale was killed on the 7th of october but his wife and son and mother-in-law as well as his son's girlfriend were abducted and they still remain in Gaza let's have a listen to what he had to say about that the Trupinov family is an amazing family it came to israel from Russia about 25 years ago now they're a very humble family they didn't want nothing more than a quiet and peaceful life the 7th of october was on a jewish holiday the holiday of Sukkot so you know in holidays not just en israel but around the world people come and meet with their families and that's exactly what they did Sasha and his girlfriend Sapir came and met with the family and unfortunately they were kidnapped with them thank you very much Robert for that report from the pulse of israeli society and how this nation as a whole is reacting to the hostage situation but for further analysis of the security situation we are now joined by Colonel Dr. Moshe Alad former coordinator de palestinian authority on security issues in the IDF as well as a lecturer at the western galley academic college thank you for being with us Moshe I want to look at the situation in the tactical sense on the ground we've been discussing a lot of the hostage situation and how it's been impacting israel's ability to make war but we have to look at the ceasefire itself how long can it reasonably be extended for and with each day of extension does the IDF lose the ability to continue the fight I guess that as long as they will release our people from there there would be some kind of ceasefire the goal of Hamas now is to lose not to lose their strongholds in the gaza street and for this objective Hamas will try to stretch the rope to the end and exhaust as they know very good how to do that to exhaust the process if only so that Israel does not renew the firing gaza street this is actually their main goal they will start with a high price for prisoners exchange as I anticipate for Hamas of gold prisoners and then little by little they will go down and reduce their demands in order to be attractive what they would like to do is to stay there raise the flag and say at the end of the process well we were not defeated we are still on our legs Israel's I guess main goal is to get these people out of Gaza this way or another and not to let them have any kind of stronghold no more in get the gaza street Does Israel have a time frame after all Hamas is trying to buy as much time as possible and with the hostage deal they've been negotiating under they have at least a month they can buy and probably a lot longer Israel can't keep 350,000 reservists called up forever is there a timeline on Israel's war I guess that if we're talking about the time frame of how to defeat those people I would say one more month will be fine and we will be able to stay one more month with all those you know economic problems and the reservist problem and so on I estimate also that Hamas will apply pressure so not to get caught up in renew battles they will probably would like to be very attractive so in Israel there will be some kind of debate whether or not to accept it they know how to manipulate the Israeli public absolutamente they will do that I guess that if after these two releases the new upcoming releases nothing will happen which I don't think so I think that they will go ahead and try to get to you know some new deals but in case there won't be a deal you know Israeli army will get in and start to work especially in the thousand part communists afia and all those areas in order to kick out those people out of Gaza but at the same time we're looking at massive international pressure demanding a long term in some cases permanent ceasefire do you see any possible scenario in which israel is forced to fold to these demands that things are stretched out so long that israel effectively loses this window you mean that we will be forced to have a ceasefire with Hamas yes I don't think so because even if those you know people who are not supporting israel but they look as a bystander and see what's going on and tomorrow it might happen in France, in England and so on keeping their heart they would like us to defeat Hamas and get them out of this area so they might you know say a word or two basically they will let us do the job and try to I guess that we need one more month to be able to keep them out of the Gaza street and probably to have some preparation for some kind of a new regime in this area let's talk about that new regime because that's very largely your security background negotiating specifically with the palestinian authority who will this new regime be people keep on saying the PA but their views aren't exactly different from Hamas it won't be an Israeli regime this I can't tell you that for sure because we have been so much badly got it in the west bank and Gaza also so what can be I guess the options are few first of all Israel will accept secondly maybe an Arab force probably for 5, 4 or 3 years and then elections will be held in the Gaza street to see if they can vote for and elect some representatives I guess this way or another Israel will have to keep the option of getting to the Gaza street anytime when they would like to do it just in order to prevent another catastrophe as we experienced 2 months ago so there should be some kind of a regime there either Egyptian either Egyptian Jordanian either maybe some other one thing I know that we are not going to stay there as a permanent so-called military occupation we have experienced a lot we have fed up with that for many years personally I was the governor of Jenin, of Bethlehem of Tyre in Lebanon let me tell you something we don't want it no more so let others take this challenge I mean the problem there is Egypt, Jordan they both said I'm going to take over with that and you talk about maybe having elections five years down the line but what's stopping if not Hamas because they're destroyed some of Hamas is surviving leadership from calling themselves something else and becoming the next ruler of Gaza again I don't think that Hamas look I guess that the IDF will try to clean the the region the Gaza street from and so try to do everything possible not to let Hamas or others do it again and shoot and stuff like that so what can be done is maybe I don't know this will be for the near future Israel will have for my point of view to decide upon a perimeter close to the border about kilometer and a half, two kilometers this won't be so easy but we should do that we should do that just in order to get the people from the south not easy, a monumental step but it's something that Israel will have to do moving forward, thank you very much Dr. Elad for helping us understand that security situation and the massive challenges ahead now we do have one more thing on the agenda our Emily Francis has been examining how many volunteers are needed to help ensure many things are working in Israel with so many soldiers called up to take care of the combat situations well who's at home, Emily Francis answers that this is not the supermarket tell us please what it is you're doing I'm putting a date on gauze 18 okay but it's a super important volunteer job that could mean the difference between life and death so we do what they say and it gets done even if we save a life everything saves a life that's why we're here during times of peace and even more so during war the Telashomer IDF base is the hub where all the medical supplies and other non-combat support tasks fuel the entire IDF I love seeing all these people volunteering for Israel they are coming from out of the country and don't really holy work here which is why this place exist I've been doing a lot of bigs came with the ticket what brings me here is that after October 7th we all I think everyone here felt the need to be here, just where we had to be for myself I was doing a whole bunch of work fighting against the insane explosion of anti-Semitism that's happening everywhere even in our little city of Winnipeg but it didn't feel like it was enough I wanted to do something physical really to help on Israel Hice el calle y salió en el primer planeo a Israel que podían participar en Sar-El Volunteers for Israel, un profundo non-profesio con una reputación internacional. He estado pagando, no ahora mismo, pero antes de eso, morphe y ketamine y bandages de amputación, y cosas seriosas, y te da sentido, especialmente cuando veas cómo muchos están pagando, lo que hay que haciéndole. Como a todos los demás que están aquí, nuestro deseo es ayudar a Israel, de alguna manera, podemos, además de las donaciones y, perdón, mi emoción, que estamos aquí para físicamente ayudar a Israel en este momento de necesidad especial. Mi Zadie venía a combinar la guerra de independencia en 1948, y si puedo hacer un 10º de lo que hizo para el estado de Israel, y él lo hizo para todos nosotros, y él lo hizo para que sea aquí para mí, si puedo hacer un 10º de lo que hizo, estaré muy orgulloso. Tengo dos hijos ahora mismo que están en mi duro, uno de ellos en el norte, uno de ellos en el Mercaz, y, ya sabes, tengo un hijo de la mujer que está en el norte. Sar-El, que es un ácronom híbrido, que significa Servicio para Israel, ha recudido más de 150,000 voluntarios de más de 30 países, desde su concepción 40 años atrás. Yo gradué en la colegio, en el momento de la guerra de los 6º de la guerra, en 1967. Quiero venir, entonces, mi familia no era zionista, sabía que no, probablemente me convirtió si llegué. He escuchado sobre Sar-El cuando visité mi hijo en New Jersey, y me dijeron, oh, Dios mío, puedo hacer hoy, pero no podía hacer 50 años atrás. Esto es ahora, Rochelle Kimmel, que es la fila de Buro Park Brooklyn, 4º volunteer de Sar-El, y para Dina Wolfe, que es originalmente de Manchester, England, Sar-El, los voluntarios, han already become her family. Esto es tu primera vez de voluntario. ¿Tienes conocido a ella por siempre? Yo creo que ella es increíble, ella es una inspiración, y yo solo me admiro. Todo el mundo está haciendo lo mucho que puede, pero algunos de ellos tienen ese sentido, no es suficiente. Mi hija decidió venir de Manchester, para hacer Sar-El, y me volví en el barrio. Con la desgracia y el vitriol contra los juzgados juzgados estando en una junta crítica alrededor del mundo, la fe de existencia es paralizada. Hemos estado por un montón de norte, en el Unión Unido, siendo juzgada. Hay un montón de anti-semitismo, que he estado racialmente hundido en la media social. He tenido las hojas en mi carro. Jenny Sade, que fue activa en la media social, ha estado casi silenciada, hasta el punto en el que ella ha tenido que cambiar su nombre profundo. Y ella también se siente más segura en Israel durante el tiempo de la guerra, que en el Unión Unido. Yo viajé en las calles, escondí mi hija David. Lo que estoy intentando decir es que siempre estoy muy orgullosa, y muy feliz de usar mi flag. Esta vez es muy escurosa. Me parece que he tenido que estar aquí. Y... Estoy muy feliz de ser aquí. Ha sido muy orgulloso. Como pueden ver, los hombres y las mujeres de todas las edades y las nacionalidades están unidos por una causa común, cumpliendo las necesidades de los soldados médicos, y también cumpliendo sus sueños en la homeland de los juzgados. Es muy disturbioso. Mi hijo me dijo que no irás a escuchar las noticias de la noticia, que te has escuchado cuando te vienes a casa. Y... Es muy depresivo. Cualquier quien tiene la habilidad de estar aquí deberá definitivamente tomar el plazo y venir. Y... es donde tenemos que estar, es nuestro país. A la base de la IDF de Teloshilmere, Emily Francis, I-24 News. Y eso es todo el tiempo que tenemos, al menos para ahora. Pero, habrá otro broadcast en casi una mitad de la hora. Hasta luego, puedes seguirnos online en I-24 News.TV para noticias y todas las noticias de otras noticias sobre la guerra que no se ha traído en este show. Por eso, habrá más noticias sobre las noticias en la situación de la hostia que Israel se encuentra en, como que se desarrollan durante el curso del día. Así que, definitivamente, estén con nuestro canal. Hasta luego. Muchas gracias por ver. Esta semana, en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Congo en el coverage de Israel en la guerra. Israel ha realizado el primer vídeo oficial desde el estado de Israel de una hostia regresando a su familia. Estás viendo el 12-year-old Aitanya Halomi, Sinon Vizio, un vídeo entrando a la hospital de Icolav y reuniendo a su madre por la primera vez por un primer hug en más de 50 días. El frágil y temprano incendio ha sido extendido por dos días para intercambiar más hostias para los prisoners de seguridad. Es un tema que verá 20 mujeres y niños que son asistidas por la organización de terror de Hamas y 60 terroristas convirtidas por Israel. Catar en los Estados Unidos han confirmado los detalles que Israel mantiene. No hay problema hasta lo que actualmente ocurra. 11 más hostias fueron lanzadas las últimas 9 niños. Todos sus padres permanecen en la capturación. Todos los niños están en una condición establecida a la hospital de Icolav y la primera vez es en un cero de la asociación de la asociación en octubre 7. All the hostias were taken to the hospital and helicopters and they were reunited there with their families all from Kibbutz near Oze. There are still at least 60 women and children that have not been released and reportedly Hamas does not even know where most of them are. They passed many of them to crime families and other unknown entities including the 10 month old baby fair Bebas to another terror group in the Gaza Strip. Local Channel 12 reports that one of the released hostias revealed that in the early days of the war they were taking the Khan Yunus where they were met in the tunnels by Hamas's leader Yahya Sinwar who interrogated them for their identities and spoke to them in Hebrew. We turn now to our correspondent Pierre Kloschenler who is standing by Icolav Hospital in Tel Aviv. Tell us what we know about the condition and the fate of the hostias that have been released so far. We don't know much. We know the laconic communicate that the hospital personnel published earlier that they're in a stable condition physically speaking. Emotionally it's going to take a long, long time to assess. They're going to be evaluated. They're being evaluated. Right now the kids are still sleeping as far as we understand because they had a long night. A long night they arrived at around midnight 30 a.m. and they were reunited with their family. So with all the excitement they went to sleep very late and thus now they're taking a rest. Now 52 days in captivity is also a very stressing period of time, a long period of time and these kids need some rest obviously. What we know about them is what they have in common for instance. They all come from Kibbutz near Oz as you mentioned. A Kibbutz which was the site of one of the most horrific massacres in which 100 Israelis and 18 agricultural workers were killed. 77 were abducted. 49 remain in captivity. What's common amongst all these five families of nine kids and two moms is that their father is also abducted. Their father remain in captivity. What we also know is the different how would I say the different ways in which they were captive for instance the two brothers Yagel and Oryakov were held by Palestinian Islamic Jihad not by Hamas. We know that Eitan Yahalomi was abducted. His father also was abducted but they were not abducted together. He was abducted with his mom and his two sisters but at the last minute they were on a different motorcycle and at the last minute before entering the Gaza Strip the mother and the two little daughters managed to escape. Eitan was taken alone and his father who defended the Kibbutz was wounded and abducted. We don't know about the condition of the father. So these are the stories of these people. They have a lot in common and at the same time they are very different. Pierre it's definitely a challenge for Israeli doctors and authorities and there's still so much that we don't know going forward. Hopefully there is some answers to that in the near future and the doctors can do their work and ensure that not only are they stable but return to their homes healthy as well. Thank you very much Pierre for that report from the Iklav Hospital. We are going to go to the studio now to talk to our Middle East correspondent Ariel Osaran sobre un tema que se ha cruzado. Este es el último signo de un conflicto entre Irán y Rusia para que se supplya avances de los jetos a Irán modernizando su militaria porque los jetos que han pasado fueron todos los del 1970 desde antes de la Revolución. Estamos hablando de la 4ª generación SU-35 MI-28 Ataque Helicópteros y los jetos de entrenamiento. Ultimately esta modernización no es exactamente nueva ha sido hace años en la que se presenta las relaciones entre Irán y Rusia. Right, Ariel. Desde el comienzo de la guerra de Rusia en Ucrania hemos visto una cooperación militar y una coordinación entre Tehran y Moscú principalmente con Irán apoyando a Rusia con drones de ataque que han sido muy utilizados bastante a través de Ucrania pero realmente lo que vemos ahora es que la serie que ha sido publicada por las redes sociales de Irán realmente indica que esto continúa y está moviendo un paso adelante. Ahora, según el reporte de lo que mencionaste Rusia y Irán finalizaron un pacto para llevar estos jetos y helicópteros a la Irán y el Air Force y lo que esperaba ser la mayor pérdida por Irán y el Air Force en dos décadas. Ahora, según el reporte los arrangamientos han sido finalizados para la salida de Suhoi Su-35 los jetos del fighter y el mil MI-28 helicópteros y los jetos de YAK-130 esto es según el ministro deputado Brigadier General Madi Farahi lo que dijo a Tasneem Ahora, esto viene a un Air Force aún no sabemos cuántos y cuántos de los que Irán es esperado y según el reporte el pacto fue finalizado y el proceso de transferirlos a Irán ya es pero de hecho Irán sufre de un Air Force como mencionaste a la mayoría de los jetos en su posición son americanos que han recibido antes el fallo de la Sha en los 70 y básicamente han hecho algunos ajustes a ellos pero esto indica que Irán es empezando a un upgrade su Air Force de una mano podría poner un reto a Israel y sus alias operando en la región eso es lo que quería hacer porque nadie pide billones de dólares para usar ¿Es Irán expectante de ser bombado en el futuro? Bueno es una pregunta que deberías preguntar a Israel o a la U.S. pero si me preguntas creo que esto no es necesariamente nuevo o preparado para una amenaza pero de hecho con las conversaciones de Israel y la U.S. trabajando juntos en un tendimiento para que cuando el día viene que Irán adquirirá armas nuclear y por la mano están mostrando y enrollando sus nuevos drones de atacas y misiles misiles que pueden llevar estas armas pero también mostrar que están intentando un upgrade de su Air Force que puede poner un reto a Israel con domicilidad sobre cualquier Air Force en la región en términos de capacidades así que como empezó a decir de una mano podría posible poner un reto a Israel de la otra mano estos sistemas estos jets son algo que israelí esraelí jets que principalmente las 35 que no en términos de en términos de movimientos y armas y armas este es un favorable desarrollo no sólo para Israel pero también para sus alianzas en la región absolutamente vamos a ver cómo muchos planes y qué tiempo de delivery es si russia tiene la habilidad de supply ahora debido a la situación de nuestro correspondiente Robert Swift está en Tel Aviv Robert ¿Qué ha sido la reacción a todas las nuevas desarrollaciones de 2-day extensión para 20 más hostages obvio que también hay muchas personas que no vienen a casa sí creo que es un juego de dos y 3 y 4 y 5 y 2 y 3 y 3 y 4 y 5 y 5 y 3 y 4 y 5 y 5 y 9 hay todavía muy una pensión fixada en esos hostigios que aún permanecen. La mayoría de los israelíos que se han kidnapped en el 7 de octubre están todavía en captivity y las personas están todavía muy en sus pensamientos. Un poco antes, hablábamos con un hombre joven que viene aquí, Gal Iazgar, que había venido aquí a protestar y para mostrar su apoyo para una familia que no estaba relacionada con. Esta es la familia de Trupinov, una familia de imigrantes russianos que se movieron aquí a Israel 25 años atrás y no tienen familiares en Israel. Así que Gal ha feltado la necesidad de protestar para ellos de su propio lado. El padre de Vitali fue muerto en el 7 de octubre, pero su hija, su hijo y su madre-in-law y su amigo su hijo fueron abiertos y aún permanecen en Gaza. Déjame escuchar lo que había que decir. La familia de Trupinov es una familia increíble. Vieron a Israel de Rusia 25 años atrás. Son una familia muy humilde. No quieren nada más que una vida tranquila y peaceful. El 7 de octubre fue la holiday de Sukkot. En las holidays, no solo en Israel, pero en el mundo, las personas venen y conocen a sus familias. Y eso es exactamente lo que hicieron. Sasha y su amigo Sapir venieron y conocen a su familia. Y, infortunadamente, fueron asesinados con ellos. Gracias, Robert, por ese reporte de la Policía de la Sociedad de Israel y de cómo esta nación como un hogar está reaccionando a la situación de la casa. Pero, por más análisis de la situación de la seguridad, estamos ahora acompañados por Colonel Dr. Moshe Alad, coordinador de la Comunidad de la Policía de la Policía de la Policía en la IDF, como un lecturio en la Académica de la Galicia. Gracias por estar con nosotros, Moshe. Muy bien. Quiero ver la situación en el sentido táctico en el grado. Hemos hablado de la situación de la casa, y de cómo ha impactado la habilidad de Israel para hacer la guerra. Pero tenemos que ver a la cifra. ¿Cuánto tiempo puede ser extendido? Y con cada día de extensión, ¿de la IDF perder la habilidad para continuar la combate? Creo que, por lo tanto, para que la gente quede de ahí, habrá algún tipo de incendio. El objetivo de Hamas ahora es perder, no perder sus sonidos en la cifra de gas. Y por este objetivo, Hamas va a intentar extender la cifra hasta el final, y exigir, y saben muy bien cómo hacer eso, para exigir el proceso. Por lo tanto, Israel no ha podido renovar la cifra de gas. Esto es, en realidad, el objetivo principal. They will start with a high price for prisoners exchange, as I anticipate, for Hamas of gold prisoners. And then, little by little, they will go down and reduce their demands in order to be attractive. What they would like to do is to stay there, raise the flag, and end of the process while we were not defeated. We are still on our legs. Israel's, I guess, main goal is to get these people out of Gaza this way or another, and not to let them have any kind of stronghold no more in get the gases to you. Does Israel have a timeframe after all Hamas is trying to buy as much time as possible? And with the hostage deal they've been negotiating under, they have at least a month they can buy and probably a lot longer. Israel can't keep 350,000 reservists called up forever. Is there a timeline on Israel's war? I guess that, if we're talking about the timeframe of how to defeat those people, I would say one more month will be fine. And we will be able to stay a month with all those, economic problems and reservist problems and so on. I estimate also that Hamas will apply pressure so not to get caught up in renew battles. They will probably would like to be very attractive. So in Israel there will be some kind of debate whether or not to accept it. They know how to manipulate the Israeli public. Absolutely, they will do that. I guess that if after these two releases, the upcoming releases, nothing will happen which I don't think so. I think that they will go ahead and try to get to some new deals. But in case there won't be a deal, Israeli Army will get in and start to work especially in the part-conunist, Fiat and all those areas in order to kick out those people out of Gaza. But at the same time we're looking at massive international pressure demanding a long term, in some cases permanent ceasefire, do you see any possible scenario in which Israel is forced to fold to these demands that things are stretched out so long that Israel effectively loses its window? You mean that we will be forced to defend Hamas? Yes. I don't think so because even if those people who are not supporting Israel, but they look as a bystander and see what's going on and tomorrow it might happen in France, in England and so on keeping their heart they would like us to defeat Hamas and get them out of this area. I would like to say a word or two but basically they will let us do the job and try to I guess that we need one more month to be able to keep them out of the Gaza street and probably to have some preparation for some kind of a new regime in this area. Let's talk about a new regime because that's very largely your security specifically with the Palestinian Authority. Who will this new regime be? People keep on saying the PA but their views aren't exactly different from Hamas's. It won't be an Israeli regime. This I can tell you that for sure because we have been so much badly guided in the West Bank and Gaza also so what can be? I guess the options are few. First of all an international force that Israel will accept secondly maybe an Arab force probably for five four or three years and then elections will be held in the Gaza street to see if they can vote for and elect some representatives. I guess this way Israel will have to keep the option of getting to the Gaza street anytime when they would like to do it just in order to prevent another catastrophe as we experienced two months ago. So there should be some kind of a regime there either Egyptian either Egyptian Jordanian either maybe some other one thing I know that Israel is not going to stay there as a permanent so called military occupation we have experienced a lot we have fed up with that for many years I personally I was the governor of Jeanine of Bethlehem of Tyre in Lebanon let me tell you something we don't want it no more so let others take this challenge I mean the problem there is Egypt, Jordan they both said there is nothing to do with it so who is going to take over with that and you talk about maybe having elections five years down the line but what's stopping if not Hamas because they're destroyed some of Hamas is surviving leadership from calling themselves something else and becoming the next ruler of Gaza again I don't think that Hamas look I guess that the IDF will try to clean the the region the Gaza street from any kind of you know armed ammunition and so on try to do everything possible not to let Hamas or others do it again and shoot and stuff like that so what can be done is maybe I don't know this will be for the near future Israel will have from my point of view to decide upon a perimeter close to the border 2 km this won't be so easy but we should we should do that just in order to get the people from south not easy, a monumental step but it's something that Israel will have to do moving forward, thank you very much Dr. Elad for helping us understand that security situation and the massive challenges ahead now we do have one more thing on the agenda, our Emily Francis has been examining how many volunteers are needed to help ensure so many things are working in Israel with so many soldiers called up to take care of the combat situations but who's at home, Emily Francis answers that this is not the super monster I'm putting a date on Gauze, 18 Okay but it's a super important volunteer job that could mean the difference la vida y la muerte. Entonces, lo hacemos con lo que dicen, y se vuelve, y lo salvamos la vida. Todo saldrá de la vida. Eso es por eso que estamos aquí. Durant los tiempos de paz, y más o menos durante la guerra, la base de la IDF de Tela-Shamer es el hub, donde todos los supply médicos y otras tareas de combate de combate, afueltan la toda la IDF. Lo amo a todas estas personas que están participando en S.A.L. Ellos vienen de fuera del país y no realmente trabajan aquí, por lo que es por qué este lugar existe. Los fatigueses vinieron con el ticket. Lo que me trae aquí es que, después del 7 de octubre, creo que todos aquí sentimos la necesidad de estar aquí, sólo de donde tuvimos que estar. Por mí mismo, hice un montón de trabajo en combate contra la explosión de anti-semitism que está sucediendo en todo el mundo, incluso en nuestra pequeña ciudad de Winnipeg. Pero no me sentía como si fuera suficiente. Quiero hacer algo físico, realmente para ayudar a Israel. Después del 7 de octubre, ayer, Lawrence Pinsky de Winnipeg y dosis de otros voluntarios, hicieron el calle y empezaron el primer planeo a Israel que pudiera participar en S.A.L. Volunteers for Israel, un profundo, non-profit con una reputación internacional. He estado pagando, no ahora mismo, pero antes, morfina y ketamine y bandages de amputación y cosas seriosas. Y te da sentido, especialmente cuando veas cómo muchos están pagando, como todos los demás que están aquí, nuestro deseo de ayudar a Israel de cualquier manera que pueda, además de donaciones y perdón mi emoción que estamos aquí para físicamente ayudar a Israel en este momento de necesidad especial. Mi Zadie vino a combater la guerra de independencia en 1948 y si puedo hacer un 10 de lo que hizo para el estado de Israel y lo hizo para todos nosotros y lo hizo para que sea aquí para mí si puedo hacer un 10 de lo que hizo estaré muy orgulloso. Tengo dos hijos ahora mismo que están en mi Lujín, uno de ellos en el norte y uno de ellos en el Mercaz y... Ya, tengo un hijo de la ley que está en el norte. S.A.L., que es un ácronom de Hebrú, que significa Servicio para Israel, ha recudido más de 150,000 voluntarios de más de 30 países desde su concepción 40 años atrás. Gradué en la escuela en el momento de la guerra de los 6 días en 1967. Quiero venir, mi familia no era zionista, sabía que probablemente me convirtió si llegué. He escuchado sobre Zarell cuando visité mi hijo en New Jersey, y me dijo, oh, Dios mío, que puedo hacer hoy pero no puedo hacer 50 años atrás. Esto es ahora, Rochelle Kimmel de Breaux Park, 4º S.A.L. Voluntario. Y para Dina Wolfe, que es originalmente de Manchester, S.A.L. Volunteers han already become her family. Esta es su primera vez de voluntario. ¿Te sientes como que has conocido her forever already? Yo creo que ella es just amazing, she's an inspiration and I'm just in admiration. Everybody is doing as much as they can, but you, some of us have that feeling it's just not enough. So when my sister decided to come from Manchester to do S.A.L., I jumped on the boundary. With the hate and vitriol against Jewish people hitting a critical juncture around the world, the existential fear is paralyzing. We've been through an awful lot in the United Kingdom being Jewish. There is an awful lot around Yosemite. I had been racially hounded on social media. I had had eggs thrown at my car. Jenny Sade, who was active on social media, has been nearly silenced to the point that she's had to change her profile name. And she even feels safer in Israel during wartime than in the UK. I walk in the streets. I hide my star of David. What I'm trying to say is usually I'm very proud. I'm very happy to wear my flag. This time it's very scary. I feel like I needed to be here. And I'm very glad I am. It's been very rewarding. As you can see, men and women of all ages and nationalities are united for a common cause. Fulfilling our soldiers' medical needs while also filling their souls in the Jewish homeland. It's very disturbing. My son said to me, you're not going to want to listen to the news stations that you've been listening to when you come home. And it's very depressing. Anybody who has the ability to be here should definitely take the plunge and come. This is where we need to be. It's our country. At the Teloshelmer IDF base, Emily Francis, I-24 News. And that is all the time we have at least for now, but there will be another broadcast in just about a half hour. And until then, you can follow us online at i-24news.tv.