 Mike dated my little sister. Really? When he first came to California, right? And he stayed in Bonter, you know what I'm saying? Really? Yeah, kicked it with that. So, man, we had a relationship. You dig what I'm saying? So, Mike dated your sister. Yeah. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101, 101. Yeah, we gonna talk. When you think, like being that, I know you talked about just being in the place when Brandy and Ray J had their incident. Like, for you to be in that place, you just took it upon yourself to deal with that, right? Well, no, I was getting paid $5 an hour. You know, you put your life in jeopardy for $5 an hour, you know what I'm saying? But I got a reputation that I must uphold. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I mean, that started us off. You know, it put me way on. I went from $5 an hour to $18 an hour. With Mike, I was making $150 a day, you know? 150 an hour, you know? And just like elevated from doing... But it started all with the Ray J and the Brandy. It started with the incident with that Nashville Crips trying to push up on them. And somebody's seeing us and like, man, look, you wanna make some money? How keen? And he got in contact with Kaplan. Pew! And it went up from there. All the way up. The first time you linked up with Mike Tyson, where and when did that happen? In Vegas. That was the first time. Yeah. But it wasn't that fight, though. It was another fight. No, that was that fight. Oh, it was that fight. That was when y'all first linked up. And basically, after that whole night, though, and you see what happened, how that whole tragic end happened for Tupac, like, do you, after that, should work with Mike Tyson more? Yeah. It just like, actually, when I was locked up, Mike dated my little sister. Really? When he first came to California, right? And he stayed in Bonham. You know what I'm saying? Really? Yeah, kicked it with that. So, man, we had a relationship. You dig what I'm saying? So Mike dated your sister. Yeah. Yeah. And so did he know that when he seen you in? Not at first. But you told him. Huh? You reminded him. My sister reminded him. It ain't for me to be talking to him. I'm just working, you know what I'm saying? How did your sister contact Mike Tyson? With a phone. That's the thing. Like, he was around. I'm like, I get it, but I'm saying she still had links to him. Yeah, man, we came, he bought her a Mercedes. We drove it from, I drove it from New York to California. How long were they in a relationship for? A while. That's why. He has a preference. He likes yellow women, you know what I mean? So this is, we all have patterns, you know? So that was his pattern. So it was always on a good term. You know, he stayed at my mom's house and slept on the couch and stuff, you know? So. Really? Took him to Compton. The first time he had seen Tumley, he had racing pigeons. Okay. And I took him to Fruittown and my homie, Rest in Peace Momo, he had tumblers. And Mike had never, and Seabirds roll like that. He, it was. What is racing pigeons? Racing pigeons are pigeons that go from point A to point B. They race in New York, the East Coast because of Hawks and stuff. They can, in California, we have tumblers and a pigeon flies up and what a tumbler is, a pigeon, it's like, the pigeon has epilepsy and they're bred to have it. So when they fly up and they fly toward the sun, they blank out. They go into a seizure and they flip coming down, right? And so they flip so far down and then they wake up, then you have something that they call suicides and they fly up and they go into a seizure and they come down and some of them get right to the ground and just come up, some of them bust their beaks. That's why they call suicides. And Mike Tyson had a fascination with these birds. We had birds, he had 200 birds. I know you ain't playing because that's the same thing Columbus Short talked about about a pigeon and some stuff about a bird. The guy who I interviewed, the actor, Columbus Short, he be with Tyson. He'd been on the hot box and everything and he was telling me about the damn bird. And I walk into the conference room, brother. And that was him right there. And Mike Tyson sitting at the head of the table smoking a joint. That's him. It was him for real. So I'm gonna be like, ah, shit. He's like, don't, don't, don't. He's so young, when he told me what he was all about. He's so young, when he told me what he was all about. He's so young, when he told me what he was all about. Man, his podcast is crazy. Where the hell's going on? So I'm, I start, I'm like, you know, they're like, give him a pitch, pitch it. So I start, I start opening like, I'm like, I'm very much into it. I'm like, okay, so we open. It's, it's a dusty road. So there's a truck, and then this pigeon flies onto the thing and the pigeon lands onto the place that don't film me, this pigeon lands into my hands. How did you keep a serious face during the whole time? I was dead ass, cause it's Mike. To me, actually. Cause I was dead, I'm dead ass serious. And he nailed it. He said, don't film me, the pigeon lands into my hands. I said, it definitely lands in your hands, Mike. And that's the opening. He was like, what the fuck did he got in his hand? Mike Tyson, Uncle Miles. So here we go again with Mike Tyson and these birds. And in New York, they have them on their roofs and they have cages, but they're racing birds. But I didn't know that you could actually train birds to race. Yes. Or do any of the mother stuff. I mean, they fly south for the winter, don't they? Yeah. Okay. So what you do, he's coming. It's just like they talk about horse sense, right? If you take a horse from where he was fed at and you take him somewhere else, as long as anybody bother him, he's coming back to where he's fed. He geographically, I don't care where you take that horse. He's going to come back home. Wow. And a bird is the same wherever they roost at. You can take them a hundred miles, 300 miles, call home in pigeons. And you let them go, back in the day, that was the form of communication. That message is right. And let him go, he's going to come back to where he fed at. So in racing pigeons, they raise them in this cage and then they'll bring them to California and people bet on them like horses. And whoever gets back to New York first, you know? Oh, man, I like it. I like it. Let me ask you about just the whole, the gang culture. I got to ask you a question that somebody had asked me to ask you, like between, is it fruit town and tree top? Why is it that they don't get along? What are they, why don't they get along? This is California, bitch. Murder. Been bloodshed. Yeah. We started back in 87, 88, it's been going on. And just stuff happens. And they like, it right across the street from each other. I literally rose crying on this side, tree tops on this side, fruit town. It was, when DJ quit, you hear him talk about fruit town, talk about Jackie, talk about Ducky, fruit town and tree tops were one. And an incident happened and tree top felt like they didn't get treated right. And the beef started and it just go on. It's just like, if I do something to you and I feel it's no justice, you feel it was no justice done. And okay, we don't get over it. Then I do something to your sister. And it's, oh, and I just, so now I'm gonna keep letting you do this and it's no retaliation. Now we got to kick back, you know what I'm saying? So we start these in-house beefs and on some personal things and some of the stuff is justified, some of it's not justified. But once blood is shed, it's hard to get over blood. That stain is deep. And sometimes you can separate for a while, but it'll never be a cohesive bond again. You feel what I'm saying? So that's the situation. And the situation intensifies itself that you got like my son, my grandson, they weren't even born when this happened. But they take sides on something that's just, just the hat feels in the McCoys. I'm just mad because I'm mad. I'm in Fruittown, here with Tree Tops. Like, bro, what are you talking about? You know, when we have so many other problems that we can address, but we try to find a solution and something that's easy for us. It's easy for us to hate each other. Don't boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk.