 I've just started the recording of the class. Good morning. I'm sure the others will join us. Morning. Let's take a moment and just pray together. Then we'll get started and get into our class today. Okay. Prince, would you like to pray and then we will get started, please? Yes. Go ahead, Prince. We can't hear you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for giving us one more opportunity to learn your word from Urban Chat Planting Lord. Thank you. In your hand Lord. Go ahead. We can hear you. Go ahead. Okay. Prince, I think my connection is low. Is it okay now? Yes. Go ahead. Let's pray. Thank you dear Heavenly Father. You've given us one more opportunity to learn your word Lord. Thank you. I submit all the students also in your hand Lord. Help us to understand more face and revelation. Help give us Lord that we should prepare for your kingdom Lord. Thank you. I submit all things to you. Lord, help us to grow in your Lord for your kingdom. Just I submit all things to you. Rest of the time I submit in your hand. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you each one for joining the class today. So we're continuing today in Urban Church Planting. And we have been talking about the practical aspects of church planting. And how we go about it. Some of the practical things to keep in mind as we are starting a local church or a ministry, Christian ministry in an urban context. We've highlighted several main points or the practical things that we can do. Last week we considered stages of growth and development. How the church, the local church, that once you, you know, we talked about the initial stages of phases that we go through in preparing to plant the church. And of course, when you plant a church, you want the church to grow. That means you want to see more people saved and equip the people and the people are equipped. They themselves will begin to do ministry, reaching out to more people. And so the work will grow. So we talked about, you know, how, what must we be ready for in the various stages that the church will go through. It's good to know in advance. Now we cannot set a growth scale saying every, at the end of every year, it will be like this. No, each local church will have its own journey. But there are, you know, common phases or stages that a church could grow through. And that's what we highlighted last week. The other thing we emphasized last week was also about multiplication. So ideally, we want, when we start a church or a ministry, you know, as the Lord blesses it, we definitely would like to see the work multiplied, whether inside the same city, where you have more church plans, or even across cities into other cities. So that's something else, something to keep in mind and also to be open and to pray about because God does want us to be fruitful. God does want us to reach more people. And when we equip people, they will be able to go out and do more and they need to be given the opportunity to go and, you know, do more for the kingdom of God. So that's where the multiplication and expansion comes in and we must be open to it in the church plans. So right from the beginning, if you have those thoughts in your mind and you're able to work towards it, that is wonderful. So what you do won't stagnate. It won't remain as, you know, the way it is from the very beginning. Today, which is the last lesson in the practical side, once we're done with this, we'll get into the spiritual aspects of the church plant. Today I wanted to talk about some models for church growth and the reason we are looking at this is not in order to copy something. God himself will work in each of our lives and in each of our ministries on how to grow whatever he has helped us start. He will give us the ideas and everything, each church plant or each ministry that you start has its, like I said, will make its own journey. But we can definitely learn by looking at other churches or other organizations and, you know, learn the good and the bad, you know, learn the positives and the negatives. Meaning, so when you look at the negatives, you look at the mistakes they made or the lessons that we've learned looking back, you know, we can avoid some of the mistakes that other churches have gone through. So we don't have to repeat those same mistakes. We can, you know, be careful. So from that, with that in mind, with that kind of an intention, it's good to look at some other things that are happening globally, right? Now, I'm just going to go ahead and share the PDF that we have. So I've just listed a few here that there are many, many more churches that we could look at. And I'm just going to, you know, give us a quick, you know, quick summary of some of these things and what we know the highlight, highlights of the key things that have helped various churches grow or what we are seeing happen in different parts of the world. So that's, I just named it Urban Church Growth Models and I've just listed these eight. Now, I want us to understand that, you know, we can't just take some model or some approach that some church is using in their part of the world and just reproduce it in another part of the world and expect it to happen exactly the same way. Right. So like I said, our goal is not to copy something, but our goal is to learn the good things and maybe we can, you know, modify and tailor those good things into which we're part of the world we are working in. So I'm going to highlight some of these. The first one is the Yorido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, Korea, which is the largest church in the history of Christianity up until now. They had a membership of about 800 and 7, 875,000 people. That's huge, 875,000 members. This was, I think the last numbers were from 2007 and then, of course, they hit this 800,000 at some point in their journey. And then they kind of, thereafter, they kind of just let, it's more like, you know, passing on people to other congregations and so on and kind of they just stopped at that number. So the last number that I am aware of was 875,000 members. Now, you go back in the history of Yorido Full Gospel Church is very interesting. So, Young He Cho, this goes back to the 1960s. He actually just passed away this last week at the age of, I think it was 80, 84 or 86, something like that. So, anyway, Young He Cho in the 1960s, he was a young man dying of tuberculosis and a young Sunday school girl came and shared Jesus with him. The Lord healed him. He got saved and, you know, he shortly thereafter began his ministry. And it's an amazing story to read how God started with this young man, Young He Cho, and he just newly married and his mother-in-law was a great woman of prayer and she really backed him up. And so together they, you know, started the work in the ministry, the slums and it's a certain part of Seoul, Korea, very poor, small, you know, starting point. But then God just worked in his life and, you know, the main emphasis there in his preaching was about Jesus, the gospel, the full gospel, you would say. Meaning you're saved, healed, delivered. Jesus will work for you, bring wholeness to your life, healings and miracles were part of the preaching, were instrumental in the growth of the church. So preaching the full gospel of Jesus Christ was an important key. Another important key that Young He Cho often shares in his reflections and in his learning was that of the cell group. So essentially he and his church there were the pioneers in the idea of cell groups. So he, early on in his ministry, he realized that, you know, the best thing is for people to meet in homes and small groups where they can be, you know, they can evangelize, they can invite more people. And from there they bring them to the main congregation. So they used cell groups both for, you know, strengthening community, but also more as a way of outreach for reaching more people. And it worked tremendously. So, you know, the numbers are staggering when you think about, you know, over 50,000 cell groups or something like that, huge numbers spread out all across the city. Many of these small cell groups, groups of about 10, 15 people were led by women. So that was a third aspect of the church was they empowered women for ministry because they realized that women would engage or passionate and they would pray and they would serve wholeheartedly. And so women were empowered. Many of these cell groups were led by women. Another important part that led to the growth of the church was the prayer mountain. So they were people who gave themselves to prayer. So the church, you know, obtained this a place called prayer mountain where people could go and spend time in print. So they really engaged in prayer. And so these are some of the key things that led to the growth of that church, you know, the preacher, the full gospel with healings and miracles, the cell group. So the cell group model, the empowering of women for ministry. The, the focus or emphasis on prayer led to the to this, the growth of the church. So at its peak, and I'm looking back at the 80s and 90s, you know, your full gospel church was was like a model for church growth. And many other churches around the world began to embrace the cell group model for church growth. So many, many churches understood the importance of these cell groups. And of course, we call them differently. We can call them life groups or small groups or things like that. But essentially, people meeting at small groups during the week, and then coming together on Sundays for the main service is a model that has been embraced globally, just everywhere. So that's those are good things that we can take from the year to full gospel church in Korea. That really helped the growth of that church. Now, the next one. And I'm just sharing these things so that you can keep these in mind. If they're of interest to you can definitely explore them further. And, and, you know, see how God would lead you. I'm not saying, you know, we have to do all these things. But I'm just sharing, you know, the different things that people have done and things that have resulted in the growth of the local church or the urban church plant. And if you know if the Lord impresses you to implement any of these ideas, you're welcome to do that. Yeah, follow the Lord, follow the Holy Spirit's leading. And so the second one is the International Charismatic Mission Bogota, Colombia. Pastor Caesar Castellanos. So the history was he he pastored. I think for about seven or eight years. Well, and while he was pastoring, you know, the church number grew more than 200 people or so something that range. And so at some point, like about seven, eight years into the ministry, he was very disappointed and he decided to quit. So he gave up pastoring. He took up a small job somewhere. And, you know, he just he got discouraged. But then while he was, you know, going through this whole time where he was discouraged, he came out of the pastoring, he was doing some job. God spoke to him and he said, you know, see the problem with you is your vision is too small. But I want you to dream of a church with people as numerous as the stars in the sky and sand on the seashore and I will do it. So he got back into the ministry started again. And, and he used the cell group model that younger Joe had used or was using in Korea. And he just, you know, let's say tailored it called G 12 groups of 12. So that's what he called it G 12. But essentially it's the same idea, the same model. But he called it groups of 12 because he said, okay, now once a group grows to about 12 people, you, you know, branch up. Another group of 12 is formed another group of 12 is formed. And, and there was, you know, similar structure, similar leadership. But he just, they call it G 12. So the cell group model that was adapted by the international charismatic mission is more commonly known as G 12. And so you may hear, you know, people say we are using G 12 model, but it's just basically an adaptation of the cell group model. But they're a little bit more strict in terms of, you know, the groups of 12 and how you train your leaders and so on. But they also saw tremendous growth and the church, they grew to more than 300,000 people. In Bogota, Colombia, and of course, the language there is Spanish. And, and so they saw the tremendous growth. So this is very, very, very encouraging story of a pastor who was once discouraged to quit ministry or quit pastoring. And that God spoke to him to get back in. And then today it's a tremendous church. So this also is a spirit filled church. So again, the emphasis has been on the preacher, the gospel, healings, miracles, that kind of focus in a ministry. And with over 300,000 people and, you know, of course, the ministry is grown. So that is also an interesting observation. This happened, of course, in South America. So what happened over in Seoul, in Korea, in some way, you know, adapted and reproduced and brought out similar results in South America. A more recent one, I guess I haven't listed all of these chronologically, but in India, if you talk about India, we have, you know, some some large movements. One of them is Calvary Temple in Hyderabad, which is a little bit more recent compared to the first two. I think over the last 15 years. So Calvary Temple, pastor Satish Kumar has grown now. I don't know what the current current numbers are, but I think the other third largest church in the world. And perhaps I think must be over between 200,000 to 300,000 people. Calvary Temple, the key there, of course, was the preaching of the word of God by pastor Satish in the local language, Telugu. But more importantly, they blanketed the whole city on television. So I think just looking at what has happened and what would be key to the explosive growth of Calvary Temple is that they kind of saturated the city on television. And, you know, almost all the television channels running, you know, the sermons throughout and in the language of the people, the Telugu language. So that, of course, they're doing a lot of other ministries and so on. But I'm just highlighting, you know, what could have been the model or the key to the growth of the church. Is the teaching of the word which then was brought to the city on local cable TV, saturating it. Basically almost every cable TV, every channel had pastor Satish on it, preaching in the local language, Telugu, ministering the word of God, which was a very big part of the growth of that church. So that's in India. Another one in India would be the issue Darbar, which is in the northern part of India. And I think it's on the outskirts of Alabad. This was, I'm not getting the name of the person. Yeah, he was actually a professor in the college. I think it was the agricultural college there. And the Lord touched his life. So he, you know, began to minister and of course they started in a small way in a small place in a building. But there again, the preaching of the gospel with the healings, deliverances, miracles was the emphasis and keeping it in a very simple way. You know, just preaching it preaching in the language of the people, of course, but in a very simple way that would appeal to, you know, the simple local people. So they eventually moved out into big open grounds where thousands and thousands of people would gather. And at one point, I don't know what the current numbers are, but at one point when they're really big, they would have about 50,000 people, you know, line up on the open grounds for their Sunday services. Now, the emphasis, of course, is the preaching of the gospel and with healing deliverance ministry. So that is the issue that Baran, you know, it's it had a wonderful impact and especially in North India. Now, I'm not sure how things are now with with the lockdown and all those things, but up until that time, you know, it was very strong ministry and there again, the emphasis would be simple preaching of the gospel in the language of the people with emphasis on healing and deliverance. You know, so people just came now because they saw the healings, they saw the miracles, they saw the deliverance. So that was another way in which that church is the bar congregation of ministry grew. Now, we will go back and go over to the Western side. And now we're looking at the United States. You know, I'm just just pulling out a few models. We'll talk about Africa as well and see what's happening there. When you look at the Western worlds, you know, we could talk about several things that happened. I've mentioned you the purpose driven church model, but a quarter, but prior to a quarter and was another interesting ministry that took place, which was out of Robert Schuller. Dr. Robert Schuller, he was during the time of Billy Graham. So Billy Graham was doing the big crusades. Robert Schuller did something very innovative in Garden Grove, California, where he had a drive in church. So there was the, you know, the congregation, people came and met, but he also had this novel idea of, you know, if you don't want to get out of your car and come and sit inside a church building, you can come park and, you know, in the driving lot. You could quote unquote attend church. So it was very novel in that time and his message, Robert Schuller, his message was, you know, and it's still is questionable, meaning he emphasized a lot. And this was back in the 60s. He emphasized a lot on presenting Christianity, or presenting the message of Christ as a positive, uplifting type of message. So, you know, whether that's a good thing or not, you know, can be debated. And, you know, people have different views on it, but what it did was it attracted a lot of people. And soon Robert Schuller, you know, he put up what is known as a crystal cathedral. There was a huge cathedral, which had, you know, the old type pipe organ music, but his message preaching was very contemporary for those days, meaning a very positive message. So people came because they felt uplifted. And soon he went on television and that so that exploded his minister globally. So he was, you know, at one point, you could say the largest church in the Western world with the largest reach. So, so he kind of set the pace for this whole idea of having messages that are uplifting, drawing people in, rather than, you know, preaching repentance and sin. The cross so much. So that is a very questionable approach because, you know, as far as we know, we have to preach the cross of Christ. We have to preach the gospel. But this is what Robert Schuller did. And it kind of created a new, I don't know if that's the right thing to use the new church model, so to speak, that many other many, you know, over time it did have an impact on the Christian world. So around that time came the, what is referred to as the seeker sensitive model, you know, I wouldn't say at the same time, but subsequently. So this was started by Bill Highbills and some people there. And they were definitely influenced by Robert Schuller, meaning bring a message that is uplifting, that is attracting people. So that's from where the, now Robert Schuller did not call his services seeker sensitive. He just, you know, brought these messages that were uplifting and so on, positive and so on. So this whole thing about was a moron, like a positive thinking type of message from the Bible, but emphasis on self esteem, making people feel good about themselves, etc. Anyway, but out of that came the seeker sensitive model. So it was heavily influenced by Robert Schuller, the people who started it. And so Bill Highbills. And this happening in Chicago area. So they did a survey of the people, found out why people are not going to church. And, you know, and they started these services that were very simple, very warm, very friendly. And it was what they called a seeker. It was for people who were open to coming to church. But it was simple messages that would make them feel welcome kind of thing. So, in some ways it was like an extension of, you know, what happened from Christian cathedral. And the church group. So at one point, this was below Creek Community Church was, I think, the biggest church and at one point, the largest church in the United States, you know, I think over 15,000 people and so on, huge numbers must have grown. Now, the numbers were great. They had a great campus and the other ministry was doing great and all of that. And they started all these leadership conferences and all kinds of things. But in the life of the church, there was problem because when they look back, they realized that they really didn't disciple people. They had the way in the word of God and established them the word of God so that was lacking and they had to rework and redo a lot of things after 30 years of ministering. They realized the problem of having a seeker sensitive model. It drew the crowd, the numbers were big, but were people really discipled. That was a question. And also, you know, with that came a lot of issues which are probably prevalent with in the contemporary church in terms of leadership, the integrity of leadership, the model, model integrity of leadership, accountability of leadership and so on. And so that was another big issue that happened there at Willow Creek Community Church. But, you know, that's something to keep in mind or maybe, you know, okay, this is what helped them. You know, the good thing is, thousands of people were brought to faith who otherwise may not have even walked into a church building. They came to Christ. They gave their lives to Christ and, you know, they took their initial steps of becoming followers of Jesus Christ. So that's a good thing. But you can also learn from the negatives from the mistakes and, you know, see how to avoid that. The purpose driven church model was again, somewhere along the lines of the seeker sensitive. This was recorded. And this was in a community called Saddleback in the west coast of America in California. And again, the idea was to reach the young urban crowd. So they positioned the messaging, the preaching, the whole service to serve the young urban population. And they're very successful. It took time, but they were very successful. And they had a way in which they would reach the community and slowly bring people into the community to, you know, to becoming part of the church and becoming part of the, you know, being discipled in the local church. So it would be interesting, you know, to look at the purpose driven church model to see how they would reach the community and then slowly bring people in and disciple them. So it seems to have worked well. Now the purpose driven church model. It's, it's, it's an advanced legal church. They did not emphasize much on the, the demonstrations of healings and miracles and so on. It has served people well in suburban America, you know, in the, it's not in the city proper, but in suburban part of parts of the city. It has been a very successful church model. Subsequent to that, I'll just mention two more as far as the Western church is concerned. Which I have, which I have one of the, there was so in between purpose driven church model and before elevation church could start. So subsequent to, you know, what was happening at Saddleback church, which is the purpose driven church model was another big movement that happened when it was called Mars Hill church. The pastor was Mark. Can't remember his last name. Anyway, it was just at Mars Hill. Now, Mars Hill again, sort of somewhere in 1996 was a small church. But then by 2000, early 2000, it saw explosive growth. There was a lot of factors to it. Of course, one was just the, the preaching style of the pastor and trying to get his name. Mark, Mark Driscoll and Mark Driscoll. So he, he, his whole preaching style was, you know, he would wear the shirt and torn jeans type of person standing in the pulpit. Appealing to this, you know, this Western crowd. His preaching style, you know, was very, you know, I don't know the word to use, but rash, very abrasive, very rough. He appealed to this kind of a crowd. You know, not many people would appreciate the way he spoke from the pulpit, but he was appealing to a crowd that kind of related to him. This man with torn jeans and, you know, people with tattoos and things like that. Anyway, so that was one, you know, peculiarity of that Mars Hill church. And but, but the thing that really caused the explosive growth of that church was the use of the Internet. So around this time, the early 2000, churches began to make use of the Internet. So that was when, you know, you slowly had these, you know, you could put out your sermon MP3s, you could on your website, you could put out videos on in all of those things started coming in. And Mars Hill was probably the earliest of those Western churches to lock into that and say, make use of it. So while they were all these other churches happening. Mars Hill suddenly grew from, let's say, you know, a few hundred people to suddenly exploded to about 15,000 people. And they, you know, they had these, they also came up with these satellite campuses, meaning, you know, you have one church, but it streamed live into many other locations. So they were kind of the earliest churches to leverage the Internet for their growth. So you can imagine one church in Seattle in Washington, Mars Hill church exploded like this. The style, the preaching style of the pastor was tailored towards, you know, that, that kind of a generation of people who, you know, where the language was very rough and, you know, came with torn jeans and those kind of that kind of a crowd and, but they leveraged the Internet. So, you know, the church exploded. But with that also came problems. The, you know, the, the explosive growth meant this one pastor was elevated to such a high place. And eventually everything collapsed in in 2016, I think. So almost 20 years in 20 years, they saw explosive growth. They went from a small group of, you know, few people to over 15,000, but then they collapsed. And part of that had the, the, what caused the growth. What I'm highlighting is the use of the Internet, the satellite campuses. But part of it was the whole leadership and accountability issues that came up with with that explosive growth. The other church that I've just mentioned the last one here from the western from the western side would be Elevation Church and they also again. Stephen Ferdick was the lead pastor, the main pastor. Again, this Elevation Church kind of followed along the model of similar to what we saw at Mars Hill leveraging live streaming and satellite campuses. They have grown to, to over 15 or 20,000 people with many satellite campuses. Again, the key here is making use of live streaming, satellite campuses, so on. One, one, one of the charts that I would mention is Life Church. Life Church has once again leveraged the Internet and reaching, I think the numbers are over close to 50,000 or something. People all online, I mean, not all online, but mainly through leveraging the Internet. So when you look at the Western Church model, you know, they started off with this, you know, very... They're letting the message to making it very soft and gentle for people. You saw the Seeker sensitive, the purpose driven, and then you saw them leveraging the Internet to grow. And so some of the biggest churches now, our churches that have from the Western side are our church that leveraged Internet using satellite campuses and so on. So, you know, so that's that part of the world. Now, quickly just to look at what's happening in Africa. So what happened in Africa is something very interesting, but it's something that is has, you know, is common across the whole continent. Across all of Africa, which is the churches that are preaching healing, you know, the emphasis has been on healing, on deliverance, on the miracles. And so we've seen across Africa, large big churches being raised up with or around individual pastors or prophets who have been greatly anointed by God. The emphasis has been on the gifting of that prophet of God or pastor, you know. The day for healing miracles, deliverance and the prophetic. So when you look at Africa today, that's what we are seeing, we're seeing churches that are large, but they're all centered around the, the gifting upon a certain individual. And that's, that's, and the emphasis of the message has been on the supernatural, the healings miracles of God meeting the needs of the people through the supernatural. Which has caused an explosive growth of church across Africa and large, you know, big churches are being raised up. So, you know, so we've kind of just taken a tour global tour, looked at what's happening really quickly in different parts of the world. Now, I haven't touched, you know, what about Hillsong Church in Australia or now, so on. But, you know, you can look at all of these churches and which have grown, which have had explosive growth, significant growth and see that, you know, there have been different things that were instrumental in causing the growth of the church. There are some things that are good that we can take and that we can make use of. The problems, I didn't get into the details. I just mentioned them in passing there. The problems there. I think the problem in a common problem in many of these churches is being centered around the gift of one man. And that you see a common problem in all of these churches. And so it is very important to try to build a team of ministry to protect the work so that the focus is not on one man, there's no abuse of power. There is accountability within the team and, you know, and the work can continue on so that I think is a lesson that we must take away. We can definitely make use of, you know, the various models, things, good things that we can take. We can make use of it. Lastly, at APC, what we've done, you know, is we've tried to learn, we try to look at all of these models, see what God has done in various parts of the world, what has worked and what are some of the mistakes. And so what we've tried to do is, you know, even as we planted churches, we've intentionally stayed away from doing satellite by live stream. And instead we said, you know, we will raise up people so that it's not one person preaching in five locations, but it is, you know, we will have five pastors, people so that they are raising up more leaders, more pastors rather than one pastor preaching in all these locations. And when we've planted churches around the country, the same thing, we send people, let them start, let them pastor, let them grow up. Let them rise up, let them, you know, have ownership of those church plants, rather than in everything being live streamed from one place and sent it around one individual and the person's gift and calling and so on. So we intentionally stayed away from this now if we need to use live stream and if you need to have a church where we are not able to send somebody. Okay, we can use it, there's nothing wrong with it. But, you know, we wanted to take a model where we'll have more and more pastors around, we'll have a team of leaders as our model for multiplication and growth. We are trying to, you know, focus some of the things we've tried to do is okay, we've learned that, you know, we've got to stay focused on the word, teach the word, equip believers and they will reach people, they will go out and do evangelism and so on. So, yeah, yeah, so we're trying to learn some good things and, you know, use that in what we are doing here at, at APC and learn from the mistakes of what is happening. Okay, so, yeah, fine. So, yeah, Kiran, I'm seeing all your comments. I'm sorry I couldn't see it while I was looking at my notes. Anyway, now, yeah, so you put a question about Lakewood Church. Lakewood Church had a very strong beginning from the word of God, Pastor John Osteen, who was the father of Joel Osteen, was a wonderful Bible teacher. Of course he began as a Baptist and then he got from Spiritfield and then, you know, Lakewood Church was born from that and so he was a good Spiritfield Bible teacher. And during his time, I think Lakewood Church was about 5000 people, I think when John Osteen, the father of Joel Osteen was there. So it had a very solid foundation in the word of God. And then after John Osteen passed away, Joel Osteen took over his son. I mean, he came, he wasn't intentionally treading to be a pastor, but he stepped in. And now, of course, he's not a Bible teacher like his father. He's more of a encourager. So he brought the simple message of encouragement to the hearts of people from the word of God. And so that really caused explosive growth of the church, meaning bringing in a simple message, something that's simple, that touches the hearts of people, brings encouragement. So we saw the explosive growth of the church. So if we ask, okay, Lakewood Church, how did it go from 5000 to about 35,000 or something? The transition would be the simple messages that Joel started preaching, which just appealed to the people, you know, and continues to appeal to the people, the message of encouragement and hope. So that was it. Now, I think that the church, you know, when we get into the details of the life of the church, they have a good way of discipling people. So that it's not just about the inspirational messages that are being preached on Sunday, but, you know, all the other things that happened in the church, aside from the sermon to disciple people, which is what is, you know, significant. So if you say, well, it is a spiritual church, they believe in, you know, all the gifts of spirit and so on and so forth. But just that the way they're being positioned at this point is different from the way it was started, you know, by John Osteen, who was a strong Bible teacher. Okay. All right, any thoughts, any comments, any questions? All right, so what I just wanted us to do is just to, you know, just look at here, you know, how different churches have grown in different parts of the world. And, you know, it is nice to take the good things and also be to warn ourselves of, you know, the things that may not be what we should be doing. So we can learn from even those negatives or from those lessons and make sure that we don't necessarily make the same mistakes. But keep in mind that, you know, we can't just copy what has happened. We can look, we can learn, we can appreciate what is happening in other parts of the world. But in whichever part of the world you're working, serving God, you look for keys that God would want you to use, you know, that God would want you to use to serve people, to grow the ministry where you are. Follow God, that's the most important thing. But be open to learning from, you know, what's happening around the world. And, you know, learn also from the mistakes that people make so that we don't repeat the same mistakes. All right, so I hope this quick session on just looking at various models of churches around the world was kind of useful if you have any specific questions. You know, you're welcome to ask or you're welcome to kind of explore online because nowadays a lot of information is available online. You can read about these various churches and other churches that I did not mention. See how they're going about, you know, serving people and learn the good things, learn also from their mistakes and avoid them. All right, let's close for today. I'll just add a question for somebody to pray and then we will dismiss. Thomas, would you like to pray and we can dismiss? Oh, it's your mic, not okay. Okay, Karen, go ahead. For the court, we just come before once again your turn for the court. Thank you for that. Knowledge for the court today we learn for the court to all churches and all sermons and all the faster from that for the court. Thank you for new, new revelation for the court. Thank you for everything. Father will give more wisdom and knowledge for the court that we can receive from you for the court and we will apply to your kingdom work for the court. Help us to understand all things for the court. Take care of every site and everything for the court. Thank you for the court to listening up there submitting to hold a father for into your hand. Take care of everything. Almighty Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay. Thank you everyone. Thanks for being on the class today. Will say again thank you. God bless you. Thank you. Bye now.