 What's up everybody welcome to the Sunday night fan dual mock draft live stream. I'm your host Simon here as always You know what we're reunited. It's been a little while jail's been in Hawaii Boys josh and jl. So glad you guys are here today So happy to be back. So happy So I belong to where I feel Is on stream with you guys It was easy jamming out, you know to that because I knew you're here jail that that intro music Just naturally feeling that group Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Let's go. I love this line. Fan dual just top to your baseline. You got that intro song I look great job. I owe you right there. I listen to that as I'm falling asleep every night I like to think that he handled that himself. Yeah, he just did and played it We got Craig in the chat who's going to be mock drafting with us and is in here saying man The speed of these short best ball drafts always scares me Can we ask daddy to handle the length of his timer? We can ask him, but daddy doesn't always lengthen his timer But yeah, that 30 on the note of what Craig said That 30 second timer Can be can be difficult. You definitely need to think ahead on your pick come wait until it's your pick try streaming Yeah, it's it We literally have 30 seconds to pick when you're streaming and doing this like yeah, everyone else They're looking through it. They're like, oh, I know this guy. I'm this guy. If this guy's here I'll probably go this guy. No, I'm just like, okay Okay Who's on my team again? We got Jordan in the chat ready for the show said I feel best when talking to Josh I was talking to Jordan before the show. Jordan. Love you buddy. Let's talk Jordan's a great guy It's always good. What's up? He said hi everyone And we got dame in the chat saying hi, what's up dame and scampers will both be drafting with us tonight as well I believe dame looked like she was having a blast at the la live draft at tropey smack headquarters And all I can say is that I'm very jealous. I'm very jealous because it looked like a lot of fun scott fish flew out there for that but Probably not my wedding. So there's that there's that. Well, are you gonna have are you gonna have a pool table at your wedding? jail Probably are you gonna invite scott fish to your wedding jail? Probably because that's probably a big determination of whether it's whether he flies out or not And Jordan in your same jail. I couldn't root for anybody for a solid two weeks That is true. That is 100% true. Yeah, Marty. We didn't have anyone rooting for you jail for some reason. No, no I was in the chat most of the time. I don't know Marty. Welcome in. He said something I do Guys today, we are going to be doing an eight person best fall draft here on the Fando website before we get into that It's going to start promptly At 7 16 p.m. Eastern time I'm not going to say 7 15 because of the 60 second timer will kick off at 7 15 telling us there's a minute So we start drafting so promptly at 7 16 this draft will begin But before we get into that a couple reminders guys if you enjoy this content if you're enjoying what we're doing here If you think josh is really handsome with just wildly enchanting eyes like give them a look at this pretty blue. I just trimmed my beard today Oh, man, like Straight it's beautiful. It's great for the for the straight line right here. 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Well, even if you're like, yeah, maybe that's a great way to get people to come back Yeah, and the week after matthew barry will be drafting with uh He's actually he's joining the front yard fantasy team Oh my god, stop making it bigger All right, all right, all right, we got craig in the chat saying we need a a wedding live stream where we can donate honeymoon money We talked about it because most of our team will most likely be there. So Might as well live invited. That would be Justin, what's up welcome into yo guys mox season and season And these mock drafts are fun, right because there's a little bit of extra skin in the game We're not just mock drafting. These are actual best ball leagues that are going to play out So we've got people here to be able to keep track of the winners. Yeah, this is more than just a mock draft we're going to be able to track these throughout the season and While very related to redraft, right a lot of the strategies come into play There is a little bit of that uh extra strategy or different strategy whenever it comes to these Best ball leagues as opposed to redraft leagues jl Josh and I didn't eight man one last week But you and I hear for that I think the one that you and I did was a 10 man one right over 10. Yeah 12 or 10 I can't remember what it was, but this eight man one It changes it up a little bit and josh and I discussed not at length But the most of the 15 minutes before the draft started last time on how the league size changes your your draft strategy And i'm curious um what you have to add on that front like what one of the biggest changes for you in your mind Since this is an eight man league as opposed to yeah, I think most most fantasy formats Your strategy is is going to completely depend upon the the size of your league and the number of people you're playing against Yeah, you're playing you're playing a game that's based off strategy It's based off the how these nfl players perform But more importantly you're playing a game against other people right and then that absolutely seven others specific seven others here And so so this absolutely changes your strategy with a smaller league size You're going to want to really focus on those onesy positions. That's I'm sure you guys touched on that last week Uh, that's that's gonna be a big focus is is trying to lock up Differentiator at those as one onesy positions. I'm talking qb talking tight end primarily tight end because I was gonna say you're right, but I specifically really want to tighten Over the quarterback a little bit because It's still so deep think about I agree You still you still want a great quarterback though. You still want a great quarterback But there's eight uh, there's eight people in this league. So there's eight people are going to take quarterbacks There are more than eight really good quarterbacks in the nfl There's a lot of great quarterbacks tight end. There's not eight great tight ends in the nfl There's like three so that specifically you're going to want to lock up But also the qb position you you certainly want to get a differentiator if you can Uh, but yeah, I prioritize that almost always less than tight end in these situations like josh said jail I think that like the line I settled on because josh challenged me on this last week and made me think through it And like the logic I settled on for quarterbacks was you and me fighting. It's not it's not that i'm willing to Overdraft them in this format, but i'm a lot more willing to accept a value that falls to me It's like if josh allen is sitting there in the fifth or sixth round in an eight man league I'm probably jumping on it. Whereas in a 12 family league I'm probably still continuing to wait on quarterback whereas here I'll take the value at quarterback if it falls like if it's falling pretty far I like that. I like that distinction real fast It's it's an eight man league like in a 12 man league for instance I'm probably going to focus on either tight end or quarterback I don't want to grab both because then that really limits me at the other positions running back in wide receiver That I really want to build it up However in an eight man league, they're still going to be value laid if both the wide receiver running back position compared to a 12 family a lot more So I would be more willing to grab a quarterback and a tight end a little bit early not too early I don't want to force the issue, but if the value is there The a man league is the one i'm going to do it. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, we don't want to be given a value at the other positions Yeah, we got some people in here ready to draft for some dollars with all the w's. What's up for his house? Um, and we had jordan here saying right as we started talking about it eight people league scare me And the mr. Scammers at 18 leagues with 30 second clocks is wild Yeah, that's a big soon and then maria said eight people together scare me. That's true Yeah, that's a lot in one place You're afraid of groups. Yeah, there's a name for jordan 18 leagues with mr. Scammers scare him I don't know if it's just mr. Scammers or cats in general like if there's 18 He's a cat. Yeah, come on jordan. Eight cats in our room scare me. Oh god. That would terrify me It's a little scared. I like cats like when I get a little shelter And I go into the cat room and there's like just cats running around every rock scheming I'm never comfortable like I like each of you individually, but like there's 12 of the cats that I'm not paying attention to right now and like I don't I don't know what the hell you guys are doing and cats are sneaky They are sneaky, but I like you got to earn their love a little bit more It's always my oma's argument why she likes cats. She says a dog will love anybody but a cat you have to earn It's a dog's super love you like dogs. Yeah, they love everybody, but they don't super love everybody I'm not so sure if a cat was capable. They uh, there's quite a few out of them. I'm sure would probably murder me. So Oh, yeah for sure I love that you have that thought in your head. Just a little bit bigger if cats were just a little bit bigger I know there would be a lot more cat murders out there If you go down I love reading the like theories like where people have put together like legitimate evidence of Humans didn't domesticate cats cats domesticated humans like to take care of them and feed them like it wasn't a And like there's like there's Reasonable proof to support that it was cats that decided to live with people not people Text me. Please stop talking about cats No more cats. This is the important stuff, but along the lines of cats I have a question simon just because like I know the reports recently they're saying like chris golland Could be ready for week one. I don't want to talk about chris golland specifically I want to talk about mike evans Right now we're drafting mike evans pretty darn early like in best ball formats He's around the wide receiver eight, you know in in redraft He's probably right around there as well And I love mike evans for this upcoming season if chris golland starts week one simon I know you're probably the highest one mike evans out of anyone in this stream right now Do you lower mike evans at all? um He probably swaps places with cd lamb for me if chris golland starts week one like i'm not moving him down a lot But him and cd lamb are neck and neck at like five and six in my rankings I probably flip it just because chris golland's there one This tampa bay offense can support both chris godwin and mike evans I'm not concerned about that his upside definitely goes up without chris godwin there And then the other big thing is even if chris godwin is ready for week one I think it would be so Irresponsible of the bucky nears to throw him out there in a full capacity at the beginning of the season I hear that box simon will judge you I mean it doesn't make sense it matters They can probably get through those first four or five weeks with a limited chris godwin and have him for the stretch of the season Scottie miller still there makes sense. They got russel gauge Now, yeah, of course. I think they do still have scottie miller though. If I remember I remember here in trade Tyler johnson's still there. Yeah, tyler johnson's still there Um, but there's really not much after russel gauge there, but i'm with you simon. He he doesn't necessarily You're what you're saying it sounds like is he's not moving tears, but he moves down in his respect Exactly He moves down like boost that he got for godwin being Presumably out in the beginning of the season, right? Like we know what Mike Evans is And I think he goes back right to where we expect him to be which is what he's been Okay, well, I receiver one He'll get you a thousand yards and probably the safest bet to hit 10 touchdowns in the league Um, or one of them maybe not the safest bet, but he's up there Yeah, I'm trying to think of someone that does super cup Jamar chase like really justin jefferson, maybe adam dealin just because he's adam touchdown dealin. Yeah Derrick Henry Derrick Henry's gonna get 10 touchdowns not receiving touchdowns Nobody he's up there in that conversation. So i'm not um I'm not hyper concerned. It doesn't make me bump him down a ton now I'll probably be drafting a little bit less of him because his adp is now like part of the allure of Mike Evans earlier this off season Was he was a like borderline top five wide receiver for me top five kind of guy And I was able to draft him around wide receiver 12 to 15 Now he's going as a top five wide receiver in a lot of leagues like getting drafted in that five to seven range And that makes it harder. Um, makes it harder to draft him makes it much harder. It does Um, I'll tell you right now, right real fast for me if he's doesn't get moved down I I won't have any Mike Evans if Chris down one is ready week one If there if he plays at all in the preseason what she it would be again I agree sometime it would be dumb to do but if he does then I'm just not drafting Mike Evans at cost. I like Mike Evans a lot, so Yeah, absolutely and guys this draft is about to start We've got 10 seconds until it kicks off and what i'm realizing is we should probably run through a little bit about what this Format is so this is going to be half ppr eight teams obviously going on in here Um, and then on top of that your starting roster is going to consist of one quarterback two running backs Three wide receivers one tight end and two flex a flex can be running back wide receiver tight end So it is a one quarterback league 30 second pick timer Three wide receiver two running back one tight end double flex half ppr scoring The heck is rock? Rock So you're on the club in this who is in this that we know so yeah, i see jordan I see craig and i am on the clock these campers What do i want to do here jonathan taylor number one off the board I am very excited to see i i bet i could guess I bet i could guess just from our previous conversation simon Let's see simon, uh I guess wrong but travis kelsey wasn't going to be there your next pick i bet that Yeah, i'm probably maybe a little bit um higher like i would have rathered have the fifth or sixth pick and drafted travis kelsey but Um, i have no problems with taking them in the first round here no matter how early you are Maybe not first overall with jonathan taylor, but um Even that i don't hate an eight man best folly. All right. All right. I see you jail I see you Cooper cup my first pick. I almost i didn't i didn't want him at all Not at all you might go a different direction josh No, i i did want cooper cup. Um, there's i'm deciding between two people right right now Now that i have cooper cup on my scott fishbowl roster I'm all in on cooper cup same thing happened with debo last year and it worked out perfectly I think rock hawk is steven johnson. That's who i think it is That's who i think it is Ever since i like that pick josh. Yeah, what's up? Welcome in sully. What up sully It's nice to get one of those top tier receivers to start out. Um, I was between him and one other person But hey, maybe that one other person will make it back to me. It wouldn't be that crazy Jamar chaser. Are you are you firmly jefferson over chase for redraft this season? So for redraft I'm firmly jefferson over chase. There's no doubt about it. I think actually in a best ball format chase Levels out with justin jefferson a little bit for me. Um, just blow up potential Yeah, yeah, exactly. I want I want that on my best ball teams, especially an eight man league But when it comes down to it, I've done some thinking about this the past week or so as well And I am I'm definitely firmly on justin jefferson over jamar chase in pretty much every format including dynasty league Yeah, it's um This is the one i've flipped back and forth on over and over and over again And I think I am I'm with you 50 because I am firmly justin jefferson Read your aft for this year But I think I am still And it's the quarterback that's the tiebreaker It's joe burrow tied to jamar chase because they're both unbelievably talented And that's just what I use is the tiebreaker. I think that's completely fair. I I didn't play me on the slightest for that Oh, and now the running backs start going We have a couple more to go Start by craig austin eckler dair kenry. That is a sweet start That's pretty hot and josh's luck on a clock I would love if jordan was in the stream right now because I want to get his opinion on the kyle pitts there Kyle pitts pick right there in the second round his second pick is kyle pitts I'm assuming that means that you're I mean either thinks that kyle pitts is gonna have some big old weeks and You know, he's gonna build around his team around that or just you know, thinks kyle pitts is gonna have a fantastic overall season I'm a little bit nervous myself, but I still love kyle pitts Yeah, uh third tight end off the board already So we had mark andrews go in the in the previous round and then kyle pitts here That is that does feel a little early for me for kyle pitts. I don't know that I I don't want to take him here But we talked about it earlier like in this kind of league you want to separate yourself, especially with that tight end spot So he's he's doing that but here's here's like the the nuance to that to that point josh is that I don't I don't like getting that differentiation if you're getting hurt at other positions, right? If you're giving up value at other positions, that's where I hesitate to take that tight end Because you taking tight end early does mean you're not taking a player one of these elite players at one of the other positions Knowing jordan though. I'm sure he has good reason for it. Uh, I'm assuming he actually just is all in on kyle pitts in some sort of way Not all in but I mean for sure like he it's a crazy reach. Yep. That's a He comes in crazy reach at all Eight team league kyle pitts is my tight end three dillady walker at a monster. You're a white man Very out of factor. Absolutely. I would love to debate with you about this a little bit, jordan Um, I look video this little bit I've looked into it a little bit and I think kyle pitts is a much better tight end than delaney walker is So that's a that's a great point. Kyle pitts is personally my tight end four, but he's two points behind darin waller. Um, they didn't have I would say that Delaney walker was force. I just expect that offense Will pass more than he will this year. I'm just a little bit nervous for marcus mario to even be in the starting quarterback after the season Jordan said I can explain more but didn't have enough characters Do a video Do a um, kyle pitts video. I have some written down research. I want to get to you jordan We'll we'll talk about it later And sully interstate if kyle pitts scored four to six touchdowns last season This wouldn't be a conversation and you're probably right there. There probably would be a more excitement or less hesitancy I think there would be because that would be four to six touchdown with matt ryan you know, um I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know like matt ryan so far It started with a simon pick with travis kelsey and then after that. This is not a very simon draft so far I went double running back, but I just I liked the running back signal I wanted to try something else. Um, and then because the league is smaller wide receiver is deep and I think it may make less and less sense to Draft wide receiver early to smaller the league size gets just the theory. I'm gonna see how this team turns out How much I like it? No, I like it You're typically a guy that loves to load up with wide receiver, right? Yep, I like to load up with wide receiver early and then just throw darts at running backs as the draft goes on Maybe grab a value like one of those older backs that people aren't as excited about Um, but still a value. You know, I'll say their names. Yeah frank gore. Um, someone like that Exactly jail. You always get value. I like it Both of you guys the names we talked about at the beginning mike evans and cd lamb now you guys are both a little bit, uh Not wide receiver heavy, but I've had similar drafts. I think where you went. Yeah, wide receiver running back wide receiver Right if I'm not mistaken both of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really like the wide receiver wide receiver value here The running back value is not fantastic It feels like it's better just to wait around rather than reaching on a four net or or alvin chimera Especially since I already drafted not here. So I'm not as not as pressed about getting another running back Would have loved to get Darren waller with my next pick, but He was unfortunately taken by Jordan Okay, so he's limiting his his league mates here on the that tight end position We were just talking about being so valuable, especially a man league and He's taken a tight end away from me. I'm very disappointed. Yeah, and a person. Yeah, he just uh, it's it's not a bad pick at all And then george kittle by craig Yeah, and the double tight end strategy This is a two flex league like we said each week two players are going to go into your flex so definitely like A riskier strategy or you have to be more intentional with the rest of your draft after going double tight end early Like jordan did but you can pull it off and both of those guys could be Weekly starters in a best ball format So let me talk for a second If this happens to you and your league if you're if you're one of the teams that does not get one of these tight Ends and in a smaller best ball league I'm yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm not reaching because of the scarcity. I'm just going to wait I'm going to pick up the value at the other positions and That's the strategy I'm taking and it's completely based on how my other league mates have drafted here That's what I just did in scott fish full I wanted to take tight end in those middle rounds, but it just kept not falling I didn't want to reach and so I took my first tight end and like round 13 or 14 just wait it and wait it and wait feels bad But your team is going to be much better from a strategic standpoint if you don't Because your first inclination is going to be oh, I need to get it out. Yeah, they're running out. I need to get one Instead just wait Instead of taking the bottom of a tier You know what I mean like like you're taking the bottom of a tier in that position grab someone from the top of a tier in another position same tier That's how that's how that tight end strategy really on the clock jail. Just see that I'll tell you guys this much like I'm very pumped to get both jesson jefferson and davin cook They're davin cook. I have projected to be my fifth overall running back jesson jefferson my number two wide receiver I hate that they're on the same team. Oh jail. You son of a freaking gun. You piece of my auto pick garbage You auto pick it's like me. I am so mad right now. That is not I just saw alvin chimera come off the board and I think that's interesting I was actually somewhat considering him just because if he plays I do think he's a top 10 player and we're hearing reports He could be suspended for six games. He could be suspended zero games for this upcoming season If he's suspended zero games, this is a straight up steal for alvin chimera at this point So i'm fine with picking him there, especially eight man league where you're gonna have more depth to kind of play around him while he Yeah, if he does get suspended then you get him when he's back. Yeah I'm fine drafting him a little bit earlier exactly exactly I wouldn't typically draft him this high in a redraft league uh with the suspension possibly looming but Yeah, and uh, jordan in here talking about delton schultz. We were talking about those middle round tight ends The delton schultz is being way I would love some more information on that actually Because adp is 16 away from kittle and 50 away from hawkinson goddard and ert So just when you look at it you put them closer to kittle or the other guys, right? The other guys in my opinion He is somewhere in between them, but I think he's closer to kittle. Actually I I would put him in the same tier as kittle personally the number two pass catcher possibly for the dallas cowboys Um, I just think there's a lot of safety with him. I think there's a lot of safe targets that he's gonna get this season Um, where with kittle with traylands probably be in the starter and just not knowing what that offense is gonna look like I think kittle's the best tight end in the nfl Okay, so don't get me wrong. I I love kittle. He's best tight end in the nfl But that involves blocking. He's a one of the best blockers as well So I mean get the ball in kittle's hands. He's gonna make something happen. There's also an injury history of kittle I would definitely take kittle over dalton schultz. Don't get me wrong. I just Yeah What's up jay? Welcome in jay. I wasn't agreeing a lot today jordan I think jay was at a trampoline arena a trampoline park if i'm not mistaken Um, but that could have been yesterday. Maybe he's still there for a full day. I think he's stuck out there He's stuck He's stuck and then day you're saying same time And I didn't like the tight end value that fell to me. So through 10. I haven't got a tight end yet You don't feel forced to reach at a position. Yeah, no, you're the right right inclination here, dame Man, I got sniped twice in a row and have just like I've just made tilt picks Um, and I'm just trying to try to recover here Well, I went mike williams because I tilt picked justin herbert after you took Travis kelsey from me. I went with uh, a different stack. I just grabbed a stack on the on that turn with yeah, williams and herbert, but man That really threw my plan off I kind of wish I didn't go back when I was damn it jordan jordan said jason went and stole a bit. Don't Yeah, i'm not up yet. I'm not yet. That's the number one rule of mock drafts jordan. Do not name drop Yeah, come on man. I was definitely gonna take him now. I'm sure he's gonna be going before my next big You I heard you say dammit jordan you were looking for some javante love I was looking for some javante. I was going between him and tea higgins. I have that back to you But he got him He saved you jel. He saved your team. I like the javante williams pica I like him actually a little bit more maybe even in best ball and He's got this built-in upside where if he is just like getting 70 percent of the workload even where I think that's Very possible, you know, I love melvin gordon. I think he's going to be more involved than a lot of people think But it javante williams just has this awesome built-in upside in that broncos offense So, yeah, I really like him there Let's uh, let's take a look at some of these teams that we've got going on so far Um, any ones that you want to we've been talking a lot about jordan So let's see how this is shaping up those two tight ends early javante williams was his first running back He took and then jamar chase and michael pitman as his wide receivers um, it I like this team so far. I'm surprised with those. I guess it's an eight-man league So you are gonna have a little bit better depth But to have both of those tight ends in the second and third rounds and still leave with two Top tier high upside wide receivers and he just stacked it with a quarterback. So jordan going two tight ends in a quarterback jail, what do you think about this team? Yeah, I think when you look at the other rosters here, uh, they're a little bit more stacked So even though it looks like, you know jamar chase michael pitman, that's great It looks decent. Uh, when you when you put that up against some of these other rosters You can tell there's definitely a separation here. Of course, it's because jordan went tight and heavy here So it's not not, uh, it doesn't mean it's worse. No, it doesn't mean it's worse at all But just stacking it up against them. I think it's definitely interesting here and I'm on the clock You are you got about 20 seconds john luke. I feel like I start at 20 seconds Well, if if you don't look for 10 seconds, that's probably what's going on Jordan said angio burrow sir and he wanted to get you higgins angio burrow Probably stacked that and that would have been odd. It would have been real odd real sexy Oh man, those last two picks were at the top of my queue Ezekiel Elliott and travis etn. I was really hoping for zeke right there Zeke would have been a good eye here. Yeah. Yeah I like that. I still don't know. I'm not Yeah, yeah, I think I think zeke's still gonna be zeke next year. I agree with you. I don't say what that means What that means is uh, tony pollard's gonna be involved. He's gonna get a lot of catches probably I think more than zeke this year. That's what I project But zeke's gonna be the lead running back. He's in a very good offense and he's gonna get a lot of goal on opportunities I think he's gonna be a top 12 running back again. Yeah I don't know what to do shoot Did you mean to pick? Oh, that's a good pick. I had an IQ. Yeah, I went with joneson. That's where that went I like joneson there Yeah, it It was I think one that I just panicked. I'm honestly I'm a little bit uncomfortable with They strapped. It's not a bad thing, but I I'm not used to getting Multiple running backs in those early rounds. I've been doing hero rb quite a bit, but this this changes things change your strategy in drafts I really hate the batch of homes pick well, maybe you uh Shouldn't be so stupid But I do feel very happy that I made you mad simon. So I'm very conflicted here Yeah, you you upset me quite a bit with that one And joneson said if burrow went I was going etn. What a stolen etn from you Just I know uh, I know jail and myself are pretty high on etn this year. Um, how do you feel about that jacksonville situation? I don't love the jacksonville situation Really that much at all, but I do expect trevor larnes to you know, more or less take the next step in his development. Um They need pass catchers as well. I mean christian kerks there. That's great. Evan ingram. Whatever marvin jones cool, uh, but Travis etn is a really good pass catcher And for a team that's void of pass catchers I I think that etn can really carve out a really good pass catching role and make his living there Even if the running game isn't You know taking off, you know, because I don't expect our offense I don't expect the scoring opportunities to be there as much as a really good offense Um, yeah, I think he's gonna have to make his living in the receiving game But uh simon t. I know and you're a little bit, you know, you're willing to take shots on james robinson late And if he comes back and he's a pass catcher, I'm really nervous about etn So I think a ton of upside, but there's there's things to be nervous about in my mind too Did uh, did you pick fall to you jio? Oh, yeah, did breeze hall Value right now. I'm expecting him to be a little bit higher up on this board That is a good value bail. There are some and I will say this adp. I don't think it's fully fleshed out yet It's still a little new so there's some uh, there's some things you can find in there where people are sunk down a little bit Yes, make sure you do some best fall, uh, best fall leagues outside of this draft Yeah, get get get ahead mr Skampers in here this comment had me cracked up these sunday night drafts are basically turning into crisis situation management sessions for me Hey One pick and it's very important full crisis mode like this Sound the alarms Oh Josh, let's uh, let's take a peek real fast. Jordan said if my if my next boss asked me how I handle situations under pressure Send them away. Just like literally it's like this is it. This is how I do it. Check me out. This is it. Yeah No, what was up Simon? I wanted to take a peek at your team. How are you feeling about it so far through seven I like it. I like it a lot. Um If my next pick comes through fruition who I want I'm gonna like it even more I'll tell you that much. I I'm very balanced in my opinion I have a quarterback that I'm extremely high on lamar jackson and then I've three running backs that I absolutely love I have three wide receivers that I absolutely love. Um, these are all top Let's see. Zeke is my lowest running back 13 So I told you he was gonna be a running back 12, but he doesn't get injured So there's gonna be a guy that gets injured in front of him. Um, for sure Then courtland Sutton wide receiver 15. I have him and he's my worst running wide receiver So I I'm really like how my team's coming together. Yeah, I'm looking at it And it's becoming apparent to me like the effect that going Kelsey in the first round had like I'm happy with my team But I think like specifically a wide receiver like there's my gap Like I'm just as happy at running back quarterback tight end love it But then you clearly have an edge on me in the wide receiver department like it it affects your team You got to be comfortable with it if you're gonna go tight end early like that I was between Dobbins and this guy I'm gonna go tj Hawkinson and then we were just talking about this like breaking tight end I I actually do have tj Hawkinson projected for only One and a half point less Then Dalton Schultz so to Jordan's point earlier tj Hawkinson and Dalton Schultz probably should be closer But I think that's more that Yeah, maybe Dalton Schultz getting slightly overdrafted But I think tj Hawkinson should be a little bit higher as well personally But I get why people are scared, you know, I'm on raw same brown broke out the under swiss gonna get his The offense is necessary serially awesome. So I get it. I like him better and best of all actually Yandre Swift is a guy I have been rising on recently not drastically, but just moving up a little bit in in my top 10 Um, he's he's eight for me running back eight. I'm curious where I have him I think that's similar into it is my pick and what are we gonna do here simon? What are we doing here simon? We're grabbing mr. Elijah Mitchell. He's one of my favorite running backs this year He would have been my next pick. I think he would have been my next pick too Well, couldn't have been both of your next picks could have been well, he wouldn't have been my next pick He would have would have been my next pick So yeah getting tj Hawkinson there kind of completing my balance build where I have one quarter back one tight end That I'm very confident three wide receivers and three running backs. I love where I'm sitting right now I I feel like I could just Take value anywhere right now and yeah, whoever I feel like is going to score me the most points That's who I'm probably going to take here. Yeah, I love that balance approach And you're in a similar boat to josh just minus the tight end right now jail, right? Very balanced with running back and wide receiver. You can take your wide receiver Which I was one of those positions. You took Bateman. I did take Bateman mother a little early reach on him a tiny bit But I like it best. Well, I think I would love the Kermit Lamar. Yeah, that would be great Would have been cool. That would have been a really good idea. Yeah, thanks, man Where are you going Simon? Simon you guys Darnell mooney, that's a good job We know at this point Simon easy number wide receiver 12 for you with this upcoming 12 Yeah, we we've moved him down to 12. He's sitting there at 12 right now Yeah, he was top 10 for it a little bit. All right Yeah, I got a little excited there at the beginning of the offseason and he was up at number nine We have we have tempered and he has moved down to wide receiver 12 And we had this whole debate about bait. It wasn't really Bateman It was Bateman it turned into Bateman versus mooney and I was on the Bateman side I actually have mooney ranked ahead of Bateman a little bit at this point A little bit at this point. Where do you have mooney? What about me at wide receiver 23? Rashad Bateman is 25 Rashad Bateman is 25. Okay. So both in that kind of wide receiver two range back end wide receiver two kind of kind of players Yes, yes, but you know, we've talked about this josh like the separation and you especially having gone through your full projections The separation from like wide receiver 12 to like wide receiver 25 is not much at all I'll tell you exactly it is exactly 32 fantasy points So 2.7 I guess that's the wide receiver 12 divided receiver 25 for me. So that's a jump I'm curious what that is for uh for running backs. How much of a drop off running backs It's probably a bigger jump. I would assume probably. No, it's not. Uh, yeah, it is. It's a bigger jump 20 like 24 My running back 24 is cordial Patterson 202 ppr fantasy points I've projected and wide receiver of running back 12 is 254 Okay, so a decent jump 50 point jump for running backs Jordan said jail sniped me again. Jail's been doing Jordan dirty this year. Just your jerry judy value I did not think that he was still there. I scrolled. I was married a little bit I was between him and Darnell mooney for that pick it feels weird scrolling and seeing those names, doesn't it? There's something don't be afraid guys to go against adp if it's your guy like don't let the Don't reach if you don't have to but it's okay to pick a guy six seven names down You don't have to just pick from the top five names up there. I get it How wrong adp is every year There's like someone feel better about it The the list puts pressure on you to make you feel like you're making the wrong decision if you take someone further down Um, um, you gotta you gotta escape that car that like bias that the list is creating for you It's a great point seven This list is creating a lot of bias for me right now I fall into it all the time. Like it is hard to like I'll be like, oh, no, that's too early for you to pick I think I'm gonna pick damian harris. Yeah I was considering it. I didn't want to I didn't want to push it because I have enough running backs and I have five running backs now Yeah, and this is a situation I've taken five running backs this early where I could possibly just not draft in our running back this entire draft Yeah, you're probably good on running back I mean to maximize like the potential outcomes for your team. It probably makes sense since you're so heavy on running back to Hammer that wide receiver position. Yeah, you got five seconds. Ah I want to keep just taking the wide receiver value because you guys are leaving so much value there, but I should get my tight end probably Yeah, I see a lot of water see your value and that's what actually like There's just so many guys that I kind of have lumped together personally, you know Yeah, no, that's that's totally fair. Yeah So that's kind of why I went running back. We're running back. I My current projections have damian harris You know Dane don't do it Don't do it dame. Oh, thank god. Thanks. Oh, dame. Great. That's who I was hoping That's who I was going between was i'm in rossame brown and no a jdl And aj dillon's a great pick. I was considering him too. Thank you so much. I was considering him as well And josh now I find myself in a similar position to you. I only have four running backs, but I'm approaching that like Joe makes indianja swift elijah mitchell aj dillon. I feel good Like I I feel very good with those four running backs Maybe one more late, but I I don't feel the pressure to have seven eight running backs on this roster No, I completely understand that Let's uh, you guys want to take a peek ski at another one of these teams. Let's uh, let's go over to dames team Peek ski so dame has tom brady at quarterback christian mccaffrey erin jones and the suspended alvin chimera at running back The divante atoms aj brown brandon cooks adam felon. I'm in ross st. Brown at wide receiver and dalton schultz at tight end I'm almost back on the clock, but jl How do you feel about this team strengths weaknesses or what do you think dames should be targeting the rest of this draft? Yeah, I think I think you need to shore up that running back position if something happens with alvin chimera You you absolutely want to be covered there in a best ball league, but cmc and erin jones are solid in my opinion tom brady is a great pick at a qb I would definitely try and get another qb who maybe is a little bit more risky Later on in the draft here just to shore up with a compliment that that tom brady roll And then wide receivers your wide receivers are solid I you started off really hot with divante atoms aj brown brandon cooks adam felon and omineral st Brown is like the least sexy Yes, yeah, it was a good pick Very good That's how you know it was a good pick if someone makes that noise. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's great Now all on the clock and craig said I feel bad can't draft chat and do dishes all at one time Use your nose for one of them. I don't care which one just you're not using your nose for one of them Let's see and then um chris saying dame has the all ir team. I don't think there's too much ir Going on on there, right? No cmc. Maybe alvin kramera, uh out injured. Yeah, he's saying that when cmc just absolutely literally it's in the first week. I'm I'm I hope cmc plays a full 17 games people forget. Yeah, he's so good when he plays Just unbelievable trai lance to josh josh. Was that your second quarterback? It was my second quarterback la mar jackson and trai lance. They have different bi weeks Uh, so that's part of the reason why but but talk about upside trai lance is all the upside of world He's gonna run around the field. He's got awesome weapons and he's got an awesome coach trai lance has set up so success guys As long as he's the starter, right As long as he's a starter. I'm just no, no, no, I mean there's People out there that are gonna be on the you know, jimmy garoppolo's the starter still but that's not What the uh leaves, you know, the uh, the tea leaves the tea leaves are telling us right now. Yeah I jimmy garoppolo and kyle shannon both came out saying like yeah, probably not playing I'm probably gonna be in a different uniform next year I like that picks campers. I was hoping alvin lasard would make it back to me I was between I was between lasard and cooper on my pick and decided to go cooper because I always draft lasard Trying to diversify a little bit that craig took here. Rashad penny and kenneth walker on the turn In best ball, I like it way more than a non best ball, right? Maybe it limits some upside But also craig doesn't have to figure out how the situation plays out Best ball just starts your best play. No, we're good at tricks like craig will have that Value right there I didn't notice myles ended. I actually prefer him over damian harris. Uh, I just I missed him. They'd be got me They got you. Yeah, they'd be got me guys. They get you sometimes Rock Hawk has four qbs guys I think rock hawk might be auto drafting over there if we're uh, if we're seeing what's going on But that just means more value for us sure Hey, but they got that qb position freaking locked up You know what? I don't hate this team like i'm looking at it They need some running back help but like the the upsides there. Oh shoot. I'm on the clock. No This is gonna be 16 seconds. Yeah, I can feel it. This i'm gonna be upset with whoever I take you Fuck We all love to see it No, what do I do? I don't even uh, oh, this is a wrong pick the good person. No, I think that's the wrong thing Oh pat for i'm youth. That's not who I wanted. That's not the value the value wasn't right there And it's a player. He's a player, you know He's a ball. There are things that we could say about that player Yeah, I could say some things you could say some things josh I could say some things Hey, his rookie year is among the elite rookie years at the tight ambition. Thanks. There you go. Thank you. There you have it I really did say something and it was very good This My night's ruined. I can't believe I got this value on drake london if we can just switch the conversation to me Yeah, let's switch the conversation to you please because I don't want to talk about another the adp Outside is immense reverse got me I got the adp on this one There's someone that I i'm a little bit more excited for than drake london That I would hope to get here, but like Yeah, jamar chase is already drafted josh Oh, I thought the adp got everyone No, no, I like jamar chase is buried. I'm just kidding. Let's see. I don't know what to do here I think I'm gonna go with davon to smith. I think it's getting a little tricky to his adp down a little bit further than Maybe it should be um We'll see he was a borderline thousand yard receiver last season I like the gauge pick now We were talking about mike evans with chris godwin coming back earlier josh the player that it really affects for me Is russell gauge? He goes from being a pretty good like late round wide receiver to me to being someone that i'm I'm not drafting as much if we get like more positive news about chris godwin coming back Yeah, I'm right there with you sign in. Um russell gauge is a fine player, but he is nowhere near as talented as well Obviously mike evans or chris goblin. I hope the chris goblin so russell gauge will still be valuable to that offense Especially from an nfo perspective because they need more class catchers simply that I mean when it comes down to it So he's going to be on the field a lot still even with chris goblin, but And he's playing with tom brady. So maybe that's a point, you know, he's just not gonna set the bottom fire in my opinion He's very clearly at least The third option in that offense from the passing game like and that's being optimistic that can be valuable though I guess exactly there's value in that but it takes away some of that upside if godwin's back right away Yeah, yeah, yeah Godwin was playing week one. Uh, I would have taken robert woods with my next pick I was playing the game, but people are smart enough robert woods was a little bit further down there I was like, maybe he'll make it back to me, but he didn't quite make it. He did not close ish close ish And oh lava. It's a pretty good turn for for craig right there Yeah, I like those both those guys yeah tyler boyd is a receiver that I really like In best fall because we saw last year that that bangles offense really knows how to attack the weaknesses of opposing teams And especially when a team is weak against the slot. It's like tyler boyd and redraft. Maybe it's you can predict it You can throw him out there whenever they've got bad matchups, but in best fall You're gonna get those boom weeks from him where they've got a good slot matchup You don't even have to think about it. It'll just get plugged on in there for you. Mm-hmm Hadarius tony josh I feel like you've been rising on here. I haven't been i'm roves. I am There I am I am firm on cadarius tony if you know what i'm saying Your timer has been lengthened Yes Yes, nice nice. That's a pretty good one. That's a good good Uh cadarius tony i'm very excited for again when he was on the field, which wasn't a lot of rookie year He was awesome. He tore apart the metrics. He put up the stats. He was great He passed the eye test every he checked all the boxes when he was on the field Now he's coming in his second year, you know, a lot of times we see wide receivers have pretty good games So, you know, we're betting on that with a lot of these other wide receivers pretty good games here and there But they don't put it all together and in second year. They put it all together I know it's not a great situation But he's my favorite new york giants wide receiver by far this year and he's an awesome athlete get the ball And this guy's hands and he's gonna make something happen. Let's go Let's go He was one of those guys where I feel like the fantasy output did not nearly match the level of excitement You had every time he did touch the ball like he was really exciting to watch. It just like It never came together never quite worked. Oh no, and I'm like almost back on the clock I should have seen this coming. It goes in the same order every time. It does. It really does I know I I could have been prepared for this but instead i'm not Jordan said can't believe you guys let me just let me get calvin johnson mixed with jerry rice in the 10th Yeah, well, I just got the third best wide receiver. I'm gonna go back to the 10th round Guys, I don't know if you know, Gabriel davis Gabe Davis We're gonna give you this christian watson to this team now. Oh Oh, oh no took my god. No, he didn't That's the second time that's happened jail. I know he took no, he didn't no now in line I was gonna maybe take mvs, but I didn't I was considering mvs Mr. Scamper said hi chat. Hi. What's wrong? Hi scams struggling with your struggling with your uh draft mr. Scampers Is that what's going on? You got this? Maybe don't do it dame Whoo dame didn't do it You guys are just letting this value fall to me. I know he was still there I know I entirely missed him. I scrolled. I didn't see him man. These rookies I like that pick a lot jay. I'm very happy with that big fan of that pick and josh That's what I should have done. I'm like, I I love yorker met there compared to where I met summary pick I'd rather have to met over fryer muth personally just for the sub coming season Now the touch on upside I guess is higher for fryer muth and in a best ball league It probably evens it out a little bit for me But I think commets the second best target on the bears by far and that's what you're looking for for a break Outside I'd rather have commit than for arm you too. I actually was hoping commit would follow me in scott fishbowl draft But just had to settle for fryer muth. So yeah, I feel you josh I like fryer muth. I love him as talent. I'm just nervous about that quarterback situation a little bit mitzvah risky Kenny pick it. I'm not so sure. There's just a lot of mouth to feed. There's a lot of mouth to feed there With that josh, I was just looking at my team and I didn't realize this while drafting Maybe I should have been paying more attention, but I have the ante johnson Chase claypool Hey, how does the feelers have a good feel? Yeah, uh, I don't love it If it was maybe the rams or the buccaneers, I'd be a little bit happier about it, but I'm not Sold on this stealers offense. In fact, I'm far from sold on this stealers offense And their defense is really good too, which is another point to make where they can grind out games with nausea harris Uh, I mean their offensive line is not very good. So maybe not grind it out but their defense can keep them in games keep it low scoring and Again, that's not great for famous I guess that's a if you're gonna put your eggs in a team basket Make sure it's an offense that you want to be tied to because I am a lot of people. I'm heavily tied to the skewers here I think I might take this guy do it I think I might just do it. Kirk Cousins. It's my third Son of a gun. He was gonna be my little stinky, but I have Like a lot, but like I just feel like Kirk Cousins couldn't shouldn't have been there anymore I just hope and he would keep falling to me. Honestly. Don't don't Freaking do it. Whatever you do. I feel like I'm about to do it. No, no Just don't do it. You don't do it for the love of god. Don't do it. Let me have them Please do it you son of a gun I knew it too. I knew that was gonna happen. Whatever. I'll just Love to see it. Love to see it Rockhardt or rock hawker whoever's there at the end is apparently smiling quarterback. So I should probably take mine now um Take some trouble warms I would have rather had Kirk Cousins um than to um to be there I I much rather have Kirk Cousins into it personally. Um, but in best ball. I'm okay. I'm okay to take into it That Tyree killed Jalen waddle. There's gonna be big big huge place happening Which I assume will lead to huge weeks for to uh, and I have pat my home. So patrick my home's here So I'm hoping that patrick my home's outscores Kirk Cousins most of the time If not, it's gonna be a weird year Yeah, I've Kirk Cousins projected as my quarterback 11 um Getting about 27 more fantasy points into a quarterback uh 16 Also guys, we are now into round 17. This is a 20 round draft. So we've got four picks left 17, 18, 19 20 Look at that math Um, so this is where you gotta start looking at kind of your positions on your team And what you need to fill in what you need more of do you need do you need that additional tight end? Do you need another quarterback? So what's your guys thinking? What's your strategies when you get into these late round? Uh late rounds here, uh, are you trying to look for weak positions and just get high upside guys or how are you thinking about it? I mean for me personally, I I want upside at these late positions. I want guys that You know if things go right for that player He's he's awesome, right and there's quite a few people on the board that fall into that category Um, you know, I'll say unnamed names. I'm looking at guys like michael hardman tim patrick Rondell more a little bit John Dotson. Maybe um, so the those kinds of running back wide receivers And then if you look at the running back position, it's just guys that maybe if the starter gets injured this guy It's locked and loaded into a awesome role. Um So that's kind of what i'm looking for but i'm gonna probably take one of those wide receivers I just mentioned garratt wilson was just drafted. He was another one. Um And i'm gonna go with Ah man this is close So close Make good with michael hardman. Oh, I like that Joe hardman what I was gonna say to answer your question is like josh and I like or josh hit it on a little bit earlier When he was talking about his running back position like he's got five very solid guys. Um I like if I was in josh's position I'm probably not using any of these last round picks on some of those high upside running backs because I feel Pretty safe and who's gonna be starting for me weekend week out now like a wide receiver if you're a little bit weaker there I feel like i'm a little bit weaker at wide receiver on my team I'm hammering those high upside guys down there and the other thing is I have two tight ends I'm gonna end this draft with two tight ends I'm gonna end this draft with travis kelsey and pat frier mooth because the success of this team Since I spent a first round pick on travis kelsey Relies on him returning that value if he doesn't return that value and start for me almost every week this season This is a losing team anyways in my eyes. So i'm gonna just that's my bet my bet is your strategy Lean into my strategy don't don't hedge because then i'm just creating a middling team So i'm gonna have pat frier mooth there as well, but i'm not taking a third tight end I'm gonna take shots at other positions here. I like that. I like that tip a lot simon I think that's underrated. I think most people don't follow that strategy. They'll try and hedge It don't hedge they don't hedge Especially not in best ball and especially especially not in tournament formats Like so some of these best ball leagues turn into tournaments or any type of format you're in scott fishbowl If you're playing over there, um, I'm not a fan of the hedge I'm with him josh is on the clock with eight seconds left josh pick ron dailmore ron dailmore You told them you told them who you were drafting and they're just letting you draft them anyways You told everybody who you were gonna draft and you just got him two picks in a row ron dailmore is gonna have at least a couple big games next season. I don't think he's gonna be consistent It's gonna make me nervous having him on a fantasy team in any other Format outside of best ball format, but I like the guys tell you it was a second round pick You know, he there's an opening now with christian kerke leaving town I know they signed marquise brown, but marquise brown is a different receiver than christian kerke ron dailmore Is a little bit closer to christian kerke. I'm just saying that because they're closer to the line of scrimmage kind of passes So I I think the uh, Arizona carnivals are gonna find ways to get the ball into his hands And he's a playmaker. So if they find ways to get in the ball in his hands, he's a playmaker He's gonna make plays happen. Is this a simple equation, right? Oh man. These wide receive I feel like from my last pick to now the wide receiver board just evaporated You're walking like it's it's an entirely different tier than it was previously Yeah And this isn't our to our point, you know, when we were saying, you know You don't necessarily have to grab like a quarterback or reach for a quarterback having an elite quarterback's obviously awesome But just look there's still quarterbacks here at every other position. It's kind of pretty barren right now But you know, I still got mac jones ryan daniel daniel jones carson wence Zach wilson baker mayfield jerr golf david I'm not excited about these guys necessarily But in a best ball format you get a few of these guys you get one pretty solid Kirk cousins level guy who mixed in with some of these guys You got a pretty good quarterback position Especially if if if if maybe you're the worst quarterback team in the league But you're stacking the running back wide receiver and tight end around that You got a pretty good shot at winning that league. Yeah, absolutely Yeah Hmm where to go here. Oh boy There's a lot of these running backs that I feel like have some upside that i'm Like I it feels weird scrolling so far But there's some guys further down that I want to I want to take Just for pure upside plays right here. Yeah, brian robinson um As far as like as far as situations that we're talking about where just one thing has to change maybe for them to step into a Big role if Antonio gibson who's a 300 touch kind of running back goes down jady mckissick isn't becoming the every down back He's not built for that. It's going to be brian robinson stepping up into that role So I'll take a rookie like that at the end of the draft We're just one thing has to change for them to have a completely different value Yeah And I'm probably you know, I don't want jail to steal my pick or anything, but um Yeah, go to jail. Just I'm not giving you any information mr. Tonyan off the board Also, mr. Scammers in here said I was incredibly foolish thinking ingram would make it pass mr. Dishwasher, correct Ingram is so hot right now guys. Haven't you heard if you're if you're just jumping on the ingram trainer You're a couple days. What about the other ingram? I'm the old ingram are ingram too. I just ingram with an eye And I'll let you know what your situation simon is not necessarily a rookie running bag. It's quite the opposite actually, but Alvin Camero suspended if Alvin Camero suspended I fully expect Mark ingram will beat the starting running back and if that's if he's suspended six games I get six games with the starting running back marking. I know he's old But last year Alvin Camero missed two games mark ingram was the starter for those games. It was pretty darn good pretty darn good Pretty darn good. I would agree with that. I'll take six games as plus the built-in injury concern if something Word happened to camera. So I got I got plus the point with mark ingram there, I think So jordan was in here asking how do you like my team now mr. Scammers said not as much as rock hard hawks jordan But I like it Card hawks rock hard hawks. That's that's a fantasy terrifying vision Ah So bad my eye. I'm sorry Both my eyes What are you guys talking about? Who knows who knows? Who's their talent We are into our last round here. Thank god with the way this conversation is going. Yeah, we are getting off We really need it Just one more change to to rock hawk's name and we're probably in territory of getting kicked off fan dual We're one more improvisation away one more escalation Jail, you're on the clock for your last pick and josh this took tyler higby with his last fit You're not one of those tight ends. You're not team of never higby. You're not on team never higby Oh, hell no. Um, that is on never higby. I you know He's got an opportunity He's in a great offense That's what we're looking for if you're not going to be one of the top two pass catchers For your team at the tight end position or if you're not extremely talented. I'm looking for the really good offenses I mean camera braids still there. So he was a consideration, but Higby has shown a little bit more than camera braid. I think he's a little bit better of an overall receiving tight end So I'll take higby here with some upside. I think I'll have some big games. Yeah I like it. I like it. That's it guys. And that is the draft that is the end of this draft today. That was a fun one I feel like there was a lot of interesting Interesting roster constructions the eight teams really mixes up like what you're used to Being available and you got to think on your feet a little bit at 30 second clocks I went I like my team bravy. I like my team too Let's take a peek at your team before we before we jump off jail We looked at josh's quite a bit. I think we pulled mine up a couple times But I don't think we've opened yours up. We've got Patrick Mahomes in 2i qb You've got six running backs nausea Harris Travis etm breeze hall tony pauler Clyde Edwards Alley or nine hinds wide receivers cooper cop Round you got Clyde Edwards Alley or 13. Oh, yeah Rashad Bateman jerry judy drake london treyland berks james and williams kenny golladay You're hoping for one of those wide receivers to break out. That's that's the strategy. Yeah, jail Then we've seen that we've seen that work. We've seen that work in the last pass lately It's worked very well. Yeah, mm-hmm. No, I like your team. Did you do you have three tight ends or two tight ends? Three Dows got it right this again irv smith. Yeah, a lot of the times I do like going either Three tight ends and two quarterbacks or three quarterbacks two tight ends. I went three of both right this draft It just felt right for my team for some reason I almost went zack wilson at the end to to follow that same strategy josh Decided game game grab zack wilson in the last round and I was love that's a great pick Like that that illustrates your point about quarterback zack wilson is a starting quarterback on a Should be much better offense this year that dame got in the 20th round of this You can you can find value there like i'm simply thinking what I've rathered had james and like the 12th Where I drafted him or zack wilson in the in the 20th probably zack wilson in the 20th. Yeah, without a doubt Yeah, so maybe maybe that's a a lesson from these eight man leagues is you can really wait if you need to Maybe it's maybe the lesson is if you're drafting if you're planning on an eight man league selecting a quarterback after like quarterback 17 or 18 Wait till the very end. Yeah Until the very end because round 1920 Yeah, and that's even with some of these teams going quarterback heavy, right? Like we had a four quarterback team and then multiple three quarterback teams in here So the value just kept on falling. I'm excited to see the results of this this league He too. I'm excited to see the results of all these and I said it last week We've started we started warming up now. Know what I mean? We got the warm-ups in I think one of these weeks we we throw a couple bucks on there. We make it a we make it a we make it a five dollar league Maybe it's our booties. I'm gonna ask We can we can throw some cash on some high Some high stake nine nine dollars nine dollars. Yeah, I've built too much. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, Josh Can I borrow a couple of I'm gonna come down. Yeah, I got you. Yes. I'm the rich guy About one dollar to do a nine man league or a nine dollar league Mr. Scammers and so much fun guys got to go put my head in the freezer And my gross my team makes me need a drink. I'm so glad you guys all need a drink, baby Hey, mr. Scammers Jordan sounds like you guys all had a really great time based on your comments after this So thanks for coming in and drafting with us. We'll be back next week for the next crisis management session I mean sunday night mock draft stream But every sunday we are here at 7 p.m. Eastern time. So set it on your calendars We'll be back next week and um, like I said, we're talking about we're talking about putting some dollars on it But we're also gonna mix up these league sizes throughout the the rest of the week's coming up to the season We might do some three man. We might do some six man get back up and do a couple I can't wait till a three man. Oh my god We got a money or something online for that. Oh, we have to Make it an eight-hour clock just because Actually kind of makes sense like Signed up as a slow draft for a three person game. Yeah, it kind of makes sense Yeah, and we'll just have a 48 hour stream. Yeah, let's just go for it guys Making money with jj. Yeah, let's do jj's money. Yeah. Yeah, let's take jj's money And then let's like distract him the entire time like right before his pick ask him questions that we know are Going to like piss him off like just say horrible things Undata backed up arguments pure narrative based arguments that we pitch his early round kb Ignore the early round qb. Yeah first round qb First round qb strategy First round qb guys that is going to be it for us this afternoon a couple reminders Ask about first round qb. So we got it Jordan. We're on top of it. Great lines. Thank you like Guys, that is going to be it for us this evening. Thank you everyone who joined along and drafted with us We had a lot of fun. Hopefully you had some fun too Go and hit that like button and subscribe to this channel fan duel If you enjoyed what we were doing right here today and then go find them on tiktok Instagram twitter at fando across all of those platforms anything else guys before we jump on this sunday night Trading makes fantasy fun Except in best ball leagues, but it's still a lot of fun guys. It's still a lot of fun. It's still a lot of fun Drafting makes fantasy fun Yeah, guys, we are out of here. We'll be back next week until then Adios everybody. Bye. Bye. Jordan says tell him about your darnel mooney ranger. I'll piss him right off You might be high