 Hello. I'm Michael North. Welcome to a new episode of Understanding China. In this program, we try to see China from inside China through Chinese eyes. Rather than regarding China as being a phenomenon that one discusses and studies and finds information, we try to involve guests who can see China from a very personal perspective and the way that Chinese people see the world. We're fortunate that we have a lady who has done some of that in a very entrepreneurial and interesting way, Joanne Jeremy. Welcome, Joanne. Hello, Michael. Thank you. Hello. Joanne lives in Honolulu, but she's had a good deal of experience in learning and teaching English to Chinese people. She has an interesting way of introducing Chinese, which is she tries to reproduce the natural way that one learns a language by listening, responding, context, real world action. So with Joanne Jeremy, there's generally, you don't start with a textbook and a list of vocabulary and start memorizing things and have a script that you go back and she's shaking her head. So no dick, Jane, no C spot run kind of thing in Chinese, right? In Chinese or any other language, Michael? Yeah. You've had involvement with many other languages as well and you've traveled around the world. Let's just talk for a moment about the fact that we already know a little bit of Chinese. There's already some familiar sounding words and so on. And you can start picking up Chinese almost immediately and you'll show me how to do that. So we're going to have 30 minutes of a very fun and interesting introductory lesson to Chinese, which will be very sophisticated in a way, but also childlike. That's correct. So it's really simple. We actually use Chinese words every single day. We just don't know that we're using it. So we think of Chinese as something very distant, very foreign, very difficult. And actually to none of those, it's actually very, very close. You use it every single day. It's as easily as greeting your husband or wife or children whenever you see them. You have a word or phrase you normally say to them, what is that? What do you normally say if you haven't seen your wife in a whole day and then she comes home and what's the first thing that comes out of your mouth? Hello, honey. Honey, right? Honey. And then you ask her how she's doing? Yeah, do you ask her how she's doing? How are you doing? How's your day? So your wife walks in the door and you say? Hon, how are you doing? Right? So hon, hon, from honey. We abbreviated hon. How are you doing? Hon, hon, actually means very good in Chinese. Very good. Hon, how? Have you ever been to a UH game? Yes. Okay. And what do we, what sound do we make when we find the opposing team? The opposing team is coming in. What do we usually say? Boo. Right? Boo. Yeah. So boo, how means not good in Chinese. Not good. Not good. Boo, how, not good. Uh-huh. And hon, how means what? Hon, how means very good. Okay. And boo, how means what? Not good. Not good. So you're already using Chinese every single day, every single day. So how is kind of the core word there? Yes, how is good. Means healthy, means good. Yeah, it means how, how means good, means all these wonderful positive words. So how is something that you hear a lot. The Chinese even use it when they're greeting each other. Usually you might hear them say what? Ni, how? Ni, how? That's the one word that pretty much everybody knows. Knows or should know. And ni, how is really easy too. It sounds like a word that we use in English. Ni, ni, right? We all have knees, right? So like you were greeting your knee. Ni, how are you doing? Ni, how? Ni, how? Okay, so you're using a kind of a mnemonic sort of technique. It is a mnemonic. Because hon doesn't mean honey in Chinese. It's not a translation, but it's a mnemonic sort of link. So we'll remember hon, how? Yes. Because how are you honey? That's, I'm very good. Exactly. You use it every single day. And all I'm doing is connecting it to words that I already know in English. Oh, that sounds like a word I already know in English. And I make that connection. So then it's easy for me to remember. It's easy for me to reproduce. Right. And then when I hear it, I know what people are talking about. Something is good. Okay, so hon, how? Bu, how? And how about this one is really, really common. You say it every single day. I'm sure everybody has a girlfriend named Jennifer. Do you have anyone in your life named Jennifer? Yeah. Several. Several Jennifer's. Okay. And what do you usually, how do you address Jennifer? Jenny, Jen, right? Usually we call this Jennifer's Jen, right? Could be. And so when you're leaving Jennifer or you're getting off the phone with Jennifer, what do you normally say? Bye. So long. Bye. Bye, who? Bye, Jen. Bye, Jen, right? Bye, Jen. See you later. See you tomorrow. Bye, Jen. Have a nice day. Bye, Jen, right? So if you place the B with a Z, what do you have? Zai. Zai, Zai, who? Zai, Jen. Zai, Jen. Zai, Jen. Zai, Jen means goodbye in Chinese. So that's for everybody, not just Jennifer. Not just Jennifer. So I could say Zai, Jen to you. Absolutely. Zai, Jen. Zai, Jen. Zai, Jen is goodbye in Chinese. So is it Ni Hao and Zai, Jen? They're kind of opposites, right? Yeah, hello. Hello. And when you're all done, Zai, Jen. That's correct. Oh, see how easy was that? That was like three seconds and you've already mastered some basic phrases in Chinese. Of course, the danger is when you say that, especially if you say it correctly, they'll assume that you know the whole rest of the language and go running on it. And so how do you say, I don't speak Chinese? Well, I would never say that. Okay, how do you? I wouldn't ever say that in any language. I don't ever, ever close the door. I feel like when you say I don't speak, you're closing the door. Okay, how would you respond? I would say, well, in the Chinese culture, what I've learned, it's a very humble culture in that they'll never say they're really good at anything, even though they're the masters of it. They'll say, oh, I'm not that good. Oh, it's just a little, no big deal, kind of thing like that. So I would say, oh, I'm not that good. Or, oh, just a little bit, you know, something to keep the door open, even if it's just as much. Okay. Yeah. So how do you say a little bit of Chinese? Yi tian tian. Yi tian tian. Sounds like the letter Yi tian tian. Yi tian tian. Yi tian tian means a little bit. Is Yi like the number one? There is, you see, there's 100 ways to say any one thing in Chinese. So Yi is also the number one. Yi tian tian. Yeah, I've heard the word, the number one. Yeah, spelled Y I. Yi tian tian. Yi tian tian. Can you spell that so we can see it on the screen? Yi tian Y I. Yi tian. Yi tian tian. Yi tian tian. Just a little bit yeah. Yi tian, Yi tian, 3 words. I like to say, wǒ shiú de bú háo, there's a word that you already know in that phrase, wǒ, shiú de bú háo. If you had to take a guess, what do you think I'm trying to say? Okay. What words do you hear already in there? Well, we talked about boohaw before. Uh-huh, wo. So not so good. Mm-hmm, very good, very good. Okay, you're catching up. So, wo, wo, show the boohaw. You don't know show that yet, but see if you can make sense of it just from the little bit that you, we reviewed. Well, wo, this could be me, it could be you. Wo, right, wo. Actually, in China, it goes like this. Wo is up here. How can we do like this? Wo, show the boohaw. What am I saying? Uh, I don't speak so much. Very good. I find Michael. Awesome. Very good. See, was that difficult? Okay. Even though you didn't know the word show that, but you know the boohaw. And wo is kind of like a comment from I. Okay. It's just a wo, show the boohaw. Sure. In the context that we're speaking, we're talking about dialogue and we're saying that, um, how to say a little bit and how to say not at all and how to say, um, I don't see very well. Okay. Let's, let's put that on the screen so people can grab. I know we're putting a lot of demands on our friend in the control room there, but wo, how do we spell that in English? Wo, w-o. W-o. And then. Show the, show the boohaw, S-H-O-U, show, sounds like show, like showbo, show, our, our TV show, show the, the, the. Show the, so one word, S-H-O-U-D-E, right? Show the boohaw, and boohaw we did already. This is, I don't speak very well. I don't speak very well. I don't speak it very much. Yeah. And it's just a humble way to say it. Wo, shoulda, and then boohaw like we had before, B-U-H-A-U. So four words, wo, shoulda, boohaw. Now how do you actually say that in a, could be because Chinese is very sensitive to inflection and intonation. Absolutely. Whether there's a rising tone or a falling tone, you can say almost the exact opposite thing. Absolutely. In the same way as in English, you know, I could say really, or really, or really. It's the same word, but said three ways, right? So wo, shoulda, boohaw you could probably say in different ways. And you could say it very well. So say it as well as you can, as well as you know. Wo, so wo is the third tone. And actually it's really tricky when you get into China, you don't often hear the third tone because they abbreviate the third tone, so it sounds like the second tone. So wo, I'm saying it's a really long, long, slow way that you learn it, but when you actually hear it or speak it, or in the environment of Chinese people, you won't hear the wo. You'll hear wo. Okay. Okay, but it's the wo, the correct is wo. So wo is the third tone, wo, shoulda, boohaw. Shoulda. Boohaw. So you're sort of going shoulda, and then boohaw. Boohaw. So boohaw. It's like a deeper boohaw, and how is the third tone? Boohaw. Okay, say the whole thing again. Wo, shoulda boohaw. Wo, shoulda boohaw. And that's really impressive to the Chinese people. Also if you want to just not worry about that at all, you can actually use nally, nally, nally is great. That will definitely make the Chinese people very impressed with you when you say nally, nally. In America, if I say to you, oh, Michael, you speak so well, Michael will say well. Nally. Nally. What's that? It means not at all. Nally, nally means where, where. Where is this person that speaks so well? Oh, really? Yes. Because in English in America, we say thank you, right? When somebody gives us a compliment, thank you. But in Chinese, you actually negate the compliment to show humility. So you wouldn't say, oh, thank you. Yes, thank you, thank you. You would say, where? Where? Nally. Nally. Where is this person that speaks so well? It can also be me. Nally. Even though that you know and I know what the reality is. So you see, you're communicating cultural nuance through understanding the language. Because in English, that would be really kind of insincere. It would be kind of strange for you to say, you speak well, and for me to say, who? Where? It would be like the Three Stooges or something, right? But in Chinese, it's a sign of the humility that you're not accepting compliments. You're deflecting the compliment. Absolutely. Yeah. And the same thing when you say thank you to somebody. Usually in America, we would say, you're welcome, right? But in Chinese, you would say, there's like three different ways to say it. Like, you're welcome, but it's not really you're welcome, it's more like a don't mention it. Don't mention it. You know, like no big deal, no worries that we would translate in. So this is all, we're talking Mandarin here, right? Absolutely. Cantonese is a little different. It's a very different. Some of the words may be different. A lot of it, just a few words are the same, a lot, it's very different. It's a completely different language. But interestingly enough, they're written almost the same. Although you say different things, the characters may be the same between Mandarin and Cantonese. If you use the same alphabet, however, their inflections are different, their accents are different. Just like if you go into the United States and you go down South, they'll have that y'all come back, now you're here. We don't say that in New York. You will not hear that. So it's the same thing, Cantonese and Mandarin are different. Mandarin is the language of the North and the West of China and Cantonese is the language mainly of Southern China and Hong Kong. That's correct. Yeah. Okay, we're going to take a break for a minute and then we'll be right back with Joanne Jeremy. Okay, we're back with Joanne Jeremy and we're getting into the very beginnings, the very edges of Mandarin. We're nibbling in a little bit. Thank you so much, Joanne, for being here and for being our teacher. You are up and about in Honolulu and there are lots of opportunities to learn Chinese, especially in our community. Maybe this will plant a seed for lots of people to learn because we're seeing more and more people from China coming to Hawaii. There's still 20, 25% of our visitors are coming from mainland China now and that's grown from just 10 years ago when it was less than 5%. So on the streets and in the stores and wherever we go and to a degree, people are buying houses and they're starting businesses and they're becoming part of our life. Of course, we've always had Chinese as a very strong element of Hawaii's culture for the past 220 years. There have been people coming from China but this new wave of people coming here is quite unique. They're coming now not as workers in the fields and not as immigrants and so on. They're coming now as investors and as tourists. So it really makes sense for all of us to become China friendly and to understand a little bit about how people think. So how did you learn the Chinese that you learned? This is a really interesting story. You just went there. I did and as an American, I did not have any intention of learning not even a little bit of Chinese because in my mind, it's so foreign, it's so far away, it's so difficult. My father, I'm only going to be there three months anyway and I'm there to teach English. Here you are, Haitian born girl, grew up in New York, NYU graduate, couple of languages. How did you land in China for even for three months? What were you doing? I worked really hard as a teacher in New York City Public Schools so I decided that I deserved to go to China and work with some really awesome students. And so I did that. I went to China to teach English and it was really awesome. It was just amazing. And so I didn't have any intention to learn the language at all. Where did you go? What place in China? I went to Zhejiang first, the province of Zhejiang. We landed in Shanghai so that's how they kind of broke us in and introduced us to the culture. It was really awesome. So we got to hang out in Shanghai for a little bit. Shanghai is like New York. Shanghai did feel like that when I got off the plane and got off to... It was amazing. Amazing. I was like, wow, I feel like I'm in Chinatown in New York City also blown up. And I was like, wow, this looks just like home, okay, I just came from there, you know, all the way around the world, exactly back home. So Shanghai was amazing. I saw a lot of things that were really amazing that I was wondering, oh, how come we didn't have this in America? The escalator at the airport actually moves only when you're on it. There's an idea of energy saving. That was really impressed by, you know, little things like that went really far. So from there, we all got separated out, spread out across, you know, Zhejiang province to go teach at our respective assignments. So I was assigned to teach it at high school, which was not what I signed up for, but thank God for an open mind, right? And it was amazing, amazing. Because we're teachers, teachers actually mean something in China that we were treated like... What's the word for teacher? Laoshi. Laoshi. So what does that actually mean? Teacher. Old master. Translate to old master. Yeah. But it means something. It's important. Like, teachers are right up there with celebrities. Yes. So we were well taken care of, like VIPs. I was brought to a five-star hotel, which was like five minutes away from the school that I was teaching. It was amazing. I mean, they had like, as we entered, they were lined up and like welcome does. As if we were celebrities. It was really, really awesome. Yeah. So we were there, picked up and taken to... What town were you in? I was in Shaoxing. In Shaoxing. Shaoxing. Kuchel. Right outside of Shaoxing is Kuchel. Shaoxing is famous because it's a great textile. It's famous for its textile, but right outside of there is Kuchel, this little suburban town right after that. And it was amazing. It was amazing. The students were absolutely amazing. Classes were huge. Like 50 students, but obviously... How do you say student in Chinese? Shui sheng. Shui sheng. Shui sheng. Okay. Okay. Let's put those two words up on the screen for a little more. Teacher. Laoshu. Laoshu. Let's spell that. L-A-O. L-A-O. S-H-I. S-H-I. Pronounce laoshu. Laoshu. So, yeah. And I learned that the hard way. And shui sheng is student, X-U-E, shui sheng, S-H-E-N-G. S-H-E. S-H-E. Shui sheng. X-U-E. S-H-E-N-G. We got that? Teacher and student. Teacher and student. Shui sheng. X-U-E. First word. Second word. S-H-E-N-G. Shui sheng. Shui sheng. Shui sheng. Am I saying that correctly? This pronunciation doesn't sound exactly, but you're in the ballpark, which is great. But this, how I learned it will help you learn it. I learned it by making a very big mistake. I think I thought about language. You've got to kind of be a little bit of a daredevil and be willing to make mistakes. So I made a huge, mortifying mistake, and because of that, I'm able to speak correctly, I'm able to hear correctly. Why did you do? I totally botched it. I botched it so bad, because- You have such a big smile. They forgave you right there. Oh, yeah. It worked out. It worked out because I'm able to recover really quickly, and so I wanted to introduce myself to the class. I wanted to tell them in Chinese that I am your teacher, but I couldn't hear the differences out in the tones. They all sounded to me, lao shi, lao shi, lao shi, lao shi. Sounded all the same to me. I couldn't hear any difference. What are those again? Say them. Shi, shi, shi, lao shi. What are the other variants? So shi, first tone, shi, second tone, shi, shi. Yeah. Those are the four tones. And with lao, they mean three completely different. They're completely different. What do they mean? It sounded all the same to me, but actually I said it completely wrong. I said lao shu. Lao shu. Yeah. I sounded, because I can remember shu. It sounded like shu. I was like maybe lao shu, so I totally blew it because lao shu means something comes really, really different. The weekend before, I tried to introduce myself to my students in Chinese just to kind of show them that I'm making the effort and that I understood how hard it was for them to transfer to English. And the weekend before that, the other teachers and I tried to learn this song, this Chinese song, a very popular song. It's a summer song. They play it over and over and over everywhere you go, called lao shu, aida mi. Lao shu. Lao shu. So maybe that's the shu, the connection that I made with the shu. It stuck in my head. Lao shu, aida mi. Lao shu, lao shu, lao shu. So it sounded close to lao shu to me. And then so I tried to introduce myself to the students and I said, well, shi, ni min da lao shu. And they all started cracking up because lao shu means mouse. So I said, I am your mouse to this class. And they all, I mean, these are like really respectful Chinese students and very conservative, but they couldn't help it. They're guts busted. So what's the correct way to say it again? Lao shu. Say the whole thing. Lao shu. Lao shu. At the end. Lao shu. I am your teacher. Oh yeah. Lao shu. Lao shu. We're familiar with that. Ni de. Your. Lao shu. I said it's the correct. Lao shu. Ni de lao shu. Lao shu. And the wrong way is lao shu. Anything else is wrong. Ni de lao shu. Lao shu. That's what I said. The wrong way. So the second one is I am your mouse. I am your mouse. The first one is I am your teacher. Yeah. And I couldn't figure out why they were laughing so hard out of their seats and everything. They're falling over. They're just like cracking up, holding their stomachs. I'm like, what? How rude. You know, you guys are laughing at me. They're like, oh, you said you're a mouse. And I was like, oh. So what is, what is mouse? Let's spell mouse on the screen. Lao shu. Lao shu. Sounds almost the same, right? Lao shu. Lao shu. Lao shu. And in English, it's, in the opinion, it's lao shu, S-H-I. S-H-I, lao shu is teacher. Right. S-H-O, S-H-U, S-H-U, lao shu. So one letter change. One letter change. Go from teacher to mouse. Teacher to mouse. Yeah. So it was pretty embarrassing. I was like, oh. I didn't know I had said it wrong. So I was very surprised. So what was the song? Tell us about the song. Lao shu ai dami. Lao shu ai dami, mouse thumps rice. Okay. So then when they translated back to me what I said, what I actually said, I was like, oh. Okay. Well, that's okay. Because lao shu ai dami. And they were like, oh, you're so sweet. You're so sweet. Because I was like, oh, it's okay. May one tea. May one tea means it's okay or no worries. May one tea. May one tea. May, like the month. May one. Sounds like one tea. May one's tea. May one tea. Can we put that on the screen too? No problem, right? May one tea means no worries. Or no question. Spell that out again. May. M-E-I. M-E-I, first word. One. W-E-M. W-E-N, second word. May one tea. T-I. T. T-I. Just the third word, T. May one tea. May one tea. Yeah. No problem. No problem. So I said, don't worry. So it's fine. I am mouse. You are rice. Mouse loves rice. That's the name of the song. Lao shu ai dami. Everybody knows it because it was the most popular song of the summer. So they're like, oh, you're so sweet. You're so sweet. Lao shu. You're so sweet. Lao shu, you're a lao shu. Yeah. So sing us the song. I love you like mouse loves rice. So I want them over at this point. They're like, oh, you're so sweet. You're so sweet. The little they know. So there's a key phrase in there. Will I knee? Yeah. I love you. I is again. I. And then. I do knee. Just like. I like. And then knee. We heard that word again just a couple of minutes ago. Knee means. So let's spell it out. Three words. W. W. Wall. W-O. Wall. Yeah. Okay. I. I. AI. Yeah. Knee and I. So three words. Wall. I. Knee. This is something that you would not normally say to someone you've just met. No. It's like a romantic kind of song. It's a love song. Yeah. Are the Chinese romantic? Well, I'll tell you a little secret. Tell us about your boyfriend. Oh, my God. Details. Well, you got good enough in the language to have a boyfriend. Well, yes, of course, because I date in the target language. That's how I can speak so many languages. Because I look for people who can speak my language. Language I'm trying to learn. So of course, I didn't know Chinese, so I looked for a Chinese boyfriend. When I was working on Spanish, I looked for a Spanish boyfriend. So I date purposefully in the target language. Because I feel like there's only so much you're going to get in a book or in a class, and you're not going to get the colloquial way of using the language. You're not going to get. So what was his name? Your boyfriend. I love you in class, you know? What was his name, your boyfriend? Jiao Hui. Jiao Hui. Jiao Hui. Z-H-A-O. What was he cute? No, Z-H-A-O. H-U-I. Jiao Hui. Jiao Hui. Was he a cute guy? Oh my God. He's so Hun Shui. And Hun Shui is? Hun Shui. Remember Hun means? Hun. Hun means? Good. Hun. Hun. Hun is very. Very. Very. Very. How is good, right? So Hun how? Hun Shui. Hun Shui. Very handsome. Hun Shui. Very handsome. Hun Shui. Hun Shui. H-E-N. Hun. Yeah, H-E-N. And Shui. Shui. S-H-U-I. S-H-U-I. He was your boyfriend. He was very Hun Shui. So how did you connect with him? Oh, yeah. So the school, one of the schools I was working at, the principal took all the teachers out in the evening. We went out dancing and all things. So that's really interesting. That's why I met Jiao Hui. And you know, I was just talking, you know, making small talk, conversations like that. And I was just like, hey, you know, what are we hanging out tomorrow night? Oh, okay. Are you going to come here again? This kind of thing? Okay, let's meet up. You know, oh, that's how it all got started. Yeah, he was very open-minded, which was really, which was awesome. He's very tall, very unusual. And I felt that he was probably the most handsome in all of China. Besides Wang Li-Hong and J-Chou. You have your standards. Yeah, very high standards. He's amazing. He's very smart. Han Tong Ming. Han Tong Ming. What is that? I'm very smart. Okay, let's spell that out. Han is the same. We're doing a lot with Han today, huh? You guys are going to be masters of Han. Very. Tong. Tong. T-O-N-G. Tong. Tong. Ming. M-I-N-G. Ming. Han Tong Ming. H-E-N first word. Tong. Second word, T-O-N-G. Yes, very good. Excellent. Very intelligent. Okay. Just like you, Michael, you're Han Tong Ming. You are Fei Chang Tong Ming. Oh, what's that? Fei Chang is like, super, totally awesome. Like, amazing. Fei Chang Tong Ming. Fei Chang, amazing. So that's a big compliment. That's a huge compliment. Doesn't get much bigger than that. Yeah, Tai Ha La. Tai Ha La, extremely wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what do we need to know when we're approaching Chinese for the first time? Maybe not the Ni Hao Ma, which you might have heard a lot of, Ni Hao Ma is a common greeting, but Ni Hao Ma, you wouldn't say to somebody the first time you meet them. You would say Ni Hao the first time you meet them. If you see them again and you have some type of relationship established, then you can ask them Ni Hao Ma. And Ni Hao Ma is kind of like Aloha. Like, we don't really use that amongst each other, do we? We use that mostly with tourists or what have you, but we don't call each other and say, hey, Aloha, Michael, right? So we would ask, how are you doing? They come from a deeper place than how are you doing? It's kind of surface, Ni Hao Ma, it's kind of surface. But if you want to go deeper, which is really impressive if you could do that, is ask. I mean, if you know them, you need to know them. You need to already have a new relationship. If not, just Ni Hao is more than enough. But if you want to go deeper, you can say, Ni Chi Le Ma, Ni Chi Le Ma, Ni Chi Le Ma, Ni Chi Le Ma. So Ni Chi Le Ma means how are you, have you eaten? How's your stomach? How are you really doing? You know, did you eat today? This kind of thing. That's deep. So let's spell that out for people. Ni, Ni, Chi, C-H-I, Chi, means eat. Eat. Did you eat? Right. La, L-E, Ma, M-A. Ni Chi Le Ma. So forwards, Ni, C-H-I, L-E, M-A. Ni Chi Le Ma. Ni Chi Le Ma. And you have to ask them. I'm not really asking have you eaten, right? You're asking how are you doing from a, like as if you cared. This is a question you asked that, because to show that you care. Well, I know that a lot of conversation, a lot of common words have that word chi in them. And it's not, it's not, the surface is not about eating. But I also know that throughout history, food has been very important. Absolutely. And even in recent history, within recent memory of many people in China, there was hunger. That's why it's important that question is deep. People didn't eat or they didn't eat well. That's correct. There was malnutrition. Absolutely. There was famine. You know, millions just within the last century. So when you're talking about food, it's not just about a casual thing like we Americans have. We always assume that we pretty much have enough to eat. But in China, there's a deeper cultural reality. Absolutely. That's why it's important. That's why you're really expressing care for the person. Exactly. Have you eaten? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've eaten. Or made sure, made sure I have not eaten. So is that how you would respond? If somebody says you can show them off? Yeah. You can say how. You can say how. You can say sure. You know, yes, I've eaten. Yeah. If you wanted to be really sure about it, what should I make sure? I have a favorite Chinese word. Yes. I love the sound of it and I love the utility of it. Many, many different ways. Kai. Kai. Kai. It sounds really beautiful. It sounds like Kai, like a Huai Kai. Sounds like a Huai Kai. But Kai means I agree, it's fine. Yes, it's another one of those that is very flexible as to what it means by the intonation and by the context. But it seems like a very intelligent word to say. People understand that you're saying, I really, I hear you, I accept what you say, Kai. Kai. Can we spell that and put it on the screen? It sounds like K-A-I, Kai. Kai. Okay. So just one last word I'd like to throw in the mix is mayo. Mayo means don't have, don't have mayo. Sometimes they abbreviate it with may, but we understand that means mayo. And it's really easy. It sounds like mayonnaise. We use it already in the English language, mayonnaise. So we call it mayo. Do you want mayo with that? So mayo means don't have. Don't have or mayo. Do you have this? Mayo, don't have. So how would you say no, thank you? Buse-sheh. Buse-sheh, no-boo. Buse-sheh. Thank you. Okay. We've got a few basic words that we can start putting in the mix. And I hope we get to carry this forward at another time. Thank you. So thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.