 And one of the things, I wanted to say this about the interview yesterday with Ridley and I didn't. So I did, I think early on reject the LAB leak across that certainly rejected the idea last year of the virus being manufactured and this being a bio weapon based on what I had read from scientists about it. It turns out I was wrong. It turns out those scientists were wrong on both counts of the LAB leak. The LAB leak is, I don't know how likely I wouldn't put a probability on it, but it's certainly not a nutty proposal. It's given the number of LAB leaks we have in the US of actual SARS viruses. It's I think a high likelihood that this was a LAB leak or at least over 50% or somewhere in that region. But even the manufactured part is not at this point completely crazy. Once you actually read the extent to which scientists that being involved in gain a function research which means manipulating viruses to be more infectious so we understand them. So then we can try to figure out how to combat them. And once you understand this as Matt described the structure of this particular virus and I forget the name of this thing that there is being attached data allows it to be in contagious it is. I don't think it's likely that it was manufactured not the virus but that section of the virus that was played with. But I think there is a positive probability. I don't think it's nuts to think that it was done away with but the nice thing about what Matt has done is compared to what people who came out and made these arguments last year is it's a whole book filled with both sides not taking a definitive stand in the end. He's tilting in a particular direction tons of evidence trying to make the best case for all different scenarios. It strikes me and maybe I'm wrong but it strikes me as a very objective analysis of the material. Not what I usually see from the conspiracy theory people very non-political and you saw the interview yesterday Matt stayed away from politics. He wouldn't comment on Fauci and Rand Paul because of that and I respect him for that. But if you're gonna make extreme claims if you're gonna make big claims you better have big evidence, right? You better have substantial evidence. And I think what Matt and Alina have done here is they've done that. They've assembled evidence for this and that is pretty amazing. Scott says, you have to take a stand. No, I don't. I mean, that's silly. Most of these kind of issues are probabilistic. It's not, you don't have certainty. It's absurd. Matt who's done all this research, Alina who is an expert in this field who've done all the research both of them in the sciences don't have a definitive answer. It is absurd to think that on complex issues you should have 100% certainty about these things that is truly absurd. Or that one has to take a stand. I mean, too many people take too many stands on too many complex issues that they don't really have enough information to take a stand on. And I think a lot of that's because of this attitude that this is something important going on I have to have a position on it. But if you don't have the knowledge I mean, you've got to do your best to come down somewhere or another but don't present it as this is what it is if you don't know. Yeah, and all my allies believe X so I probably should believe X too. Right, right. And I'll fight for X to the death not because I have any first-hand knowledge of it because all my friends believe X. Thank you for listening or watching the Iran book show. If you'd like to support the show we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening. You get value from watching. Show your appreciation. You can do that by going to iranbookshow.com slash support by going to Patreon, subscribe star locals and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those channels. Also, if you'd like to see the Iran book show grow please consider sharing our content and of course subscribe press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live. And for those of you who are already subscribers and those of you who are already supporters of the show thank you. I very much appreciate it.