 So we hear the ID Tech Act show and who are you? I'm Damon Brink. I'm the VP of Business Development with ACI materials. We do conductive inks, pastes, capsulence and stretchable adhesive materials. Is it in the jacket right here? Yes, there's a number of things that we have on display here. One of these is a collaborative effort and if you can see with the camera through our mannequin, we've got a stretchable heater and we can't see it, feel it over the video, but it is very hard to tell that there's anything there at all and this is a stretchable denim. It works, it heats up. It does, it absolutely does. It's hot right now? It is not hot right now. It's not connected. We'll turn it on and by the end of the video it should be a bit warm. And this is part of the tech you're doing right here. You're showing some flexible stuff. I've got a few things here. One of our partners is an extant material. So we have developed a conductive ink that is flexible on that. There are LEDs surface mounted to that using one of our flexible conductive adhesives. So this is now at almost 40,000 cycles of bending. Nice, so it keeps bending and it's still okay? Yep, exactly, exactly. This is a demonstrator of some of our stretchable inks. This is two conductors on top of one another. It stretches about 50% and you can see an LED lit up at the end. So this change is very little change in terms of thermal or electrical conductivity across that path. And what are you demonstrating here? This is a demonstration of some of our different inks with different patterns. Just to say as a demonstrator. So we can get down to some very fine lines. There are about 50 microns on this. So has the company been doing this for a long time? We've been in this space for about two years. Two years? What's the background of the company? We have a core technology that allows us to disperse some very small particles in viscous media. So perfect for conductive inks. We actually started in aerospace. Now we have a full line of electronic materials for flexible hybrid electronics. And over here we're showing some stuff just behind right here. What is that stuff done there? So first of all, this is a printed Arduino. So this is a different subject? Is it the fragile or? It's not, it's the same one. So right here. So it's an Arduino, right? Yeah, Arduino is like an advanced thing, right? Yeah, it's programmable chip, so there isn't... This doesn't have the surface mounts on it, but it has all the printed pieces that would then be put together. That's a flexible Arduino, really? That's it. So this was designed by Nexlex. But what's missing? Something's got to be missing, right? You have to solder on something? All the surface mount pieces... Is that easy to put them on the right place? Solder? The location is fine. It's not soldered there, so we'd have a flexible epoxy. Conductive epoxy that would connect. That just works. You put them on and then you've got a little flexible Arduino. Sure, there are, yeah, exactly. There are tricks to doing it for sure, but as you can see, it's a fairly complex circuit. And it flexes as well. And you have different kind of materials. You can do it different in different kind of ways. This is like another kind of... Yeah, same pattern. This is on Kapton. Temperature material. This is a PET. And we have stretchable... So we have a whole line of materials that goes on flexible TPUs, which is what I showed you before. What do you show on the wall here? Right here. What is it demonstrating here? This is a flexible, stretchable, die-attached material. A what? A die-attached material. So for large die... So what this is demonstrating is bonding a wire-bonded die directly to something like copper as a heat sink. And so we've got... What happens is when you have large chips that are exposed to large thermal expansion or large temperature ranges, you get thermal expansion differences, which makes the chip stretch and flex with respect to the substrate. So by having a material that is able to stretch and accommodate that movement, we can get some really good reliability. So we've gone through on this one thermal shock testing from minus 40 to plus 150 C for about 1800 cycles, with no change in performance. Well, and this is the Flix Heat technology you have in the jacket? Yes, and this is a collaboration with four companies. Principal design, Lubrizol, Butler Technologies, and ourselves. You can see the stack up here. So this is how it's all put together? That's all these different things here. This is all put together. There's a few, we have a stretchable denim, as we saw earlier on the jacket. This is a stretch restrictive material that is made by Lubrizol that can be screen printed and functionally graded to create that. This then is the TPU substrate that we go on. And here is then the resistive material is printed on top of that. That creates the heat as electrical current goes through it. The bus bars are made from our more highly conductive stretchable inks, and then over top is a stretchable encapsulant so that it can be washed. And so the stuff you have is special for the industry? It is. In terms of the stretch, the stretch that we can achieve with this is unique. You have a unique stretch? Yes. So we can stretch a couple hundred percent without the line going open, which is definitely unique. Which is very important for e-textiles? It is. It is. For many applications where you need to have something that doesn't increase in resistance as you go. So how far are you from the mass production? Are you anything of any of these things already in mass production? We're in qualification on a number of these types of products. The materials themselves are available, of course. And then hopefully this becomes a huge thing, right? Well, absolutely. We all get heating jackets. And a lot of other things will happen in those more e-textiles. Indeed. You can be part of a lot of it. Indeed, indeed. We like to say we make the picks and shovels for e-textiles. We make the conductors and the stretchable pieces that connect sensors and batteries and other things on the textiles themselves. So how's it been, the i-detect show? Oh, it's great. We have a great number of leads and a great deal of traction.