 Thank you for everyone who's joined us as well. My name is Simon Clark, EGU's program coordinator. And today I'll be hosting this webinar on pre-pins to public peer review, how to engage with EGU Sphere. We'll be talking about what is EGU Sphere and how to take advantage of the pre-pins and the platforms, public peer review processes, most other things. To help us with this, we have three guest speakers. Suzanne Brito, the EGU Sphere coordinator. Barbara Irvins, the EGU Publications Committee Chair. Martin Rasmussen, Manager Director of Copernicus, EGU's publishing partner. The webinar will be recorded at a bit of a later date on YouTube, so please give it a minute for that. And the webinar itself will finish with a Q&A section. So if we have any questions, please drop them in the Q&A box at the bottom and upvote any questions you think are pertinent. And with that, I'll pass on to our first speaker, which is Suzanne. Thanks a lot, Simon. I'm really looking forward to this. So let me share the screen. So I hope that that's all clear and that you hear me clearly. So we're very happy with this opportunity to discuss EGU Sphere. So EGU Sphere is what we call the Innovative Open Access Repository, and it's created by the EGU and by Copernicus Publications. So EGU Sphere didn't just come about this year. We're already hosting abstracts and conference presentations, but as of a few weeks, we're also open for preprints. So we therefore thought that a webinar on how to engage with EGU Sphere would be very timely. And what we will be discussing, I will have three speakers and I will be kicking off with what are actually preprints, what is EGU Sphere, and why did we start another preprint server. And Barbara will follow up with the routes that exist, the different options on EGU Sphere and the relation between the preprints on EGU Sphere preprint server and the journals of EGU. Whereas Martin will show you how this actually really works in practice, how can you upload a preprint? What are the, how can you become a preprint screening moderator? We'll be explaining what that is, and how EGU Sphere combines both the conferences and the presentation chairs on one end and the preprints and the manuscripts on the other. We'll make sure that we have time for presentation for questions, so we will keep on track. So what are preprints? It's what the word says, it's the version of a manuscript before, so preprint, meaning before peer review and before publication. So most publishers, for example, they allow you to post a preprint version of your manuscript on your own website. And most publishers also allow that you post a preprint version of your manuscript on a so-called preprint server. But preprints can also be standalone. You might have a manuscript or an idea that you would like to get out there, but you're not yet targeting publication in general, maybe not at all. And then you can post that preprint on a preprint server. So what are the reasons to preprints? There's actually many. But an important one is that preprints are available to anyone. You don't have to pay to post your preprint, you don't pay to read them. And that makes the research that is communicated in a preprint very accessible. You also don't have to wait for your manuscript to be made public until it has been peer reviewed and you revised it and it's been copy edited and that process can take several months. But instead of preprint is posted quickly. And that also helps with the transparency of the research process because it means that ideas are posted quickly. So it becomes clear who did what and when. So you can contract the progress in the research. Manuscripts usually also receive a DOI so they can be cited. And you can get feedback in an early stage on the manuscript, not only from your reviewers but already in an early stage community can comment on your preprint and authors can reply to these comments. So preprints all highlight that the preprints as a manner of a communication manner that is open and transparent and accessible and construct if I would say. Now preprints is not something that is new. They have been around for quite a while. They have preprint service. And probably the best one, the best known is archive. That's already from 1991 so a good 30 years, and they have over 2 million manuscripts. But just the last years have seen some preprint service emerging in the earth and the space sciences. In the archive, they will be celebrating their five years and this author, but also is from our colleagues at age years from 2018 they're linked to the publisher Wiley, whereas archive and archive are standalone preprint service. And then of course, you do sphere opens in 2020 for abstracts and conference presentations and as of a few weeks also for preprints. Some of the four preprint service that I've listed here are fairly young. And this indicates that there is a growing interest from from auditors to communicate the science in an open access manner. You see, we have abstracts and conference presentation materials as I said since 2020. 2020 because that was the year that we went online with the General Assembly at the start of the pandemic in a few weeks time, and we decided that we post the abstracts with the do I so they can be cited, but linked to this. These materials, and that could be slight from PowerPoint or it can be the PDF of a poster or a PDF of anything you would like to share with the abstract, and it's linked to the abstract. The industry also has backward abstracts to 2015. Open conferences that are linked to you to you, but these don't have a deal one. Now as of 7 February we're open for preprints. And I've just shown you that there are already several preprint service right so you might be wondering, why did you start another preprint server. Right. It's first and mainly because you support open access. And then it aims to integrate to contribute to increase in visibility of your research. The very pragmatic point is also that the journals of each you were already posting the submitted version of manuscripts online so in the sense that these are also preprints. But these preprints are distributed over them, the 19 open access journals of each you and you sphere brings all these preprints together in one platform. So we're telling more about the relationship between the preprints on each sphere, and the journals. So one thing that I would like to emphasize is that we strongly support the, the earth scientist space science preprint community. So we shared the goal of making the research accessible and available in an open manner. I would say it's, we welcome the collaboration, I wouldn't see this as a competition in the sense it's the more the merrier. And in, in the spirit of this collaboration, an example is that, for example, external preprints say you have your manuscript on archive or earth archive. So if you join each you sphere if you would wish to be considered for publication in each you journal and then you go into review with an each you do know why your preprint is on another preprint server. So that's an example of the collaboration that that that we seek among the different preprint servers. And at the same time any preprint that comes in, they benefit from the open discussion and feedback that the publications of each you have. So what's the philosophy of a new sphere. As I mentioned it's a community service we would be, we would like to help the authors increase the visibility of their research. There's also an encouragement of collaboration by the open and transparent sharing, which has also helped because you post your idea out there very early, and you can get really feedback through open community discussion anybody can post a comment. The authors can reply and you can have a discussion that is then posted online. They're both findable they're siteable there for do I, it does mean your preprint has a different do I, and you find a version but they're linked. And we hope to engage the community with the publication process and I'm very proud I posted here on the site, the first preprint that was up on each you sphere. I'm already on 18 February. How can you become engaged. Of course, we would love you to submit your manuscript is a preprint. But please also go and see if you can comment on posted preprints, and you can consider to become a so called preprint moderator now what is this. These are these preprints that are standalone. So manuscripts that would like to get an idea out there. But they're not targeting publication in the journal maybe not yet. These preprints are screened to make sure that it's a basic standard of science quality, conventional standards of civil discourse and that they're not abusive. Now we're very happy that we already got 57 pre print screening moderators, but we would love more moderators to join us. And Marta will be showing you how you can apply to become a preschool moderator. And I think that gives you some initial flavor and idea of what you do sphere is about what preprints is about why why have we come up with a pre print server. And with that I would like to hand over to Barbara. Yeah. So I will actually continue. And show you where you can find the information on the different types of preprint on options that are possible on each of your sphere. On the website, you can find under you to use fear on pre prints and options. And as Susanna said, we have basically three different options for pre prints in use fear. So these are the pre prints aimed at publication in the new general, then pre prints that target not immediate journal publication and external pre prints. And I will step you now through the different submission pathways and the different steps on these different pre prints will undergo. So, um, for more than 20 years, we have said journals in edu with an open and interactive discussion before the papers are actually accepted by accepted for publication. So here so, so far, authors could submit their manuscripts to a journal to one of the 19 edu journals. And then this manuscript was sent out to editor calls on editor was assigned to handle the review process. So, all the pre prints on the papers underwent a quick access review just to check the basic scientific standards and suitability for this journal. And, um, this could also happen already with on the help of viewers per viewers. So if the editor decided that the paper could be posted in in the discussion forum, then on the paper was posted there in the discussion for several weeks, the exact length that depends on the journal but it's, it's for several weeks. And then everyone could could comment on this preliminary manuscript. So it received previous comments, which could be anonymous or not. So it underwent a full peer review, but also the authors could comment already or respond to these previous comments. The editor could make comments but also the community so anyone could comment on this paper and ask questions or ask for clarifications or bring up new ideas. So after this discussion phase of the authors have the possibility to revise a manuscript and to submit a revised version and finally the editor will make a decision whether it can be published in in the journal it was targeted for. So this pathway actually has been in place for 20 years now for some of our journals. And it's, it really stimulates the open discussion and the transparent peer review. Now we also apply the same for each year sphere so authors can decide whether they want to post on their preliminary manuscripts on only on the journal website or whether they want to submit it through each year sphere with the idea of a final journal publication. So what is the difference. Well, if they submit through each year sphere, then the paper is posted, both on each year sphere and also cross link to the journal website so it has a higher visibility, because both the people who look at each year sphere and search so the footprint server will find the paper but also the readers of the journal will find it. And also, on the another difference is that these manuscripts will have different DIYs. And so if something is submitted through the journal website. It will receive a DIY on which has a name of the journal in it and that cause problems in the past because some publishers are not really familiar with the idea of pre printing and rejected them on papers that were in discussion and rejected afterwards. Because they consider that a general publication. If it has a DIY including only easier sphere that is a neutral UI it's just a pre print server. And most publishers accept these days that pre prints can be submitted to their journal so there should be on this problem should be solved by on submitting through each year sphere so it has advantages. Not only higher visibility but also any problems with other publishers that are not up to the idea of pre prints should be solved by this. So these are the pre prints on targeting on general publication. However, we also have other pre prints as the sun is set. So, if you just have a manuscript on with an idea, but it's not quite ready for journal publication yet, and you just want to get the idea out. That's what we call pre prints not immediately targeting journal publication. So they can be submitted to each year sphere. And they're not handled by journal editors because they do not have a general relation. But as soon as such a pre print is submitted and each of the each year sphere moderators are called. And depending on the subject area they receive the calls specific to this pre print. Each year sphere moderators are mostly early career scientists. And this is a role for them, which is not quite as high in responsibility as a journal editor because their role is to screen these pre prints for the basic scientific quality. And if they if they're okay, these pre prints are then posted on the on on each year sphere and stay there for six months where everyone can comment so the moderators do not have the role to find reviewers and to guide the peer review process, like an editor in our journals, but they make sure that the pre prints that are posted on each year are scientifically solid. If the authors decide now that they want to on target journal publication of their pre prints on doing these six months after the six months it's possible. So they can decide they are rather want to seek publication in one of the edu journals. Which means that they basically start the progress I just described above so they basically submit the pre print to one of the edu journals but then undergoes the editor calls and full peer review. Or they can of course go to any other journal. So just on the pre print remains on edu sphere, but then might might be published in another journal. So now the third option external pre prints seeking publication in edu journal. So as Susanna said there on several other pre print servers out there on that are one more used and on such pre print servers on pre prints typically receive a DIY. And so if authors now want to decide that such pre prints should be published eventually, eventually in an edu journal, they can link these pre prints to our to edu sphere. And then this manuscript is treated like any other manuscript that seeks journal publication. So it goes again through the editor calls and receives a full peer review during the open discussion where everyone again can comment on on on these papers. And then on the editor makes a decision finally on whether it can be published or not. So, of course, that is also possible that was possible also up to now but now. The journal publication will be linked to the initial pre print that we have basically the same picture as any pre prints a connection to any pre print. That was also submitted to edu sphere and then with this pathway, not targeting immediate journal publication, and then converted into one of those. So the idea here for the last type of pre prints is really that we want to recognize and collaborate is the other pre print servers, and really stimulate also the connection between pre prints and the final journal publication, but also allow just having pre prints that do not have to be aimed at general publication on from the beginning. So, these three options are the new pre print options. And I think Martin will now describe how to really submit papers and how it will look like on the website. Thank you very much, Barbara. Yeah, welcome everybody also from my side. Great pleasure that we have this webinar and I hope that we can spark your interest for ages here today. I want to share my screen. For a quick walkthrough. Not, of course, the whole system so this is a landing page of you just fear you just fear that net. And on this web website, you might have a look also a bit on the motivations here and what we do. We came to submit a pre print. Let's let's go through this box here. Then the first thing of course since I'm already on ages fear. So the system knows, okay, you really want to have your pre print on ages fear. And we come to the journal relations later. And of course at the moment today, it asked you for two roads, actually the third road the external pre print will be launched tomorrow. So if we had the webinar a few days later I could have even shown you this for the time being I just kindly ask you to believe me. So at the moment what it asks you is should your pre print be peer reviewed, because that's that's the main main thing. And it says here two options pre print with public peer review and possible journal publication or pre print with screening only. And let's say for the time being we say pre print with screening only and proceed. Okay, I need to see topics from you and you have to select at least two. Let's say I take the three topics from by just sciences. And we also have a web page on ages fear where this is also linked. And so what you see here is, we have the main domains. And they are based on the divisions and the general assembly program groups being available in issues in you. With, of course, some additions like trends, the same topics, which become more and more of an issue you have seen it, especially during covert. And if I'm, for example, in the biogeosciences and I take three of these topics. Now the platform knows which moderators it should call because since I have selected that I have a pre print without a journal relation without full peer review for journal. And it is a screening process by the ages fear moderators and not by any journal editors very important. So, because the screening of course for pre print is a very quick and much more easier thing. And then of course an access review, if you seek a journal publication. The rest of the forms and principle, like we have it for any other titles with title authors of course, and competing interests is a very important thing so some publishing ethics. And some information you can leave and of course lots of terms and conditions, you have to agree to, but that's it in principle because the system must only have a chance to call the correct or matching moderators. And of course, we need to clarify some legal issues. And if you then submit, then the system will ask you to upload your pre print PF, and then it looks for moderator and the moderator. I have very strict deadlines much stricter deadlines than journal editors, for example, because we want to have it very quick. If I use the same form, but I select that I want to go the first road so pre prints with public review and possible journal publication. It's a bit different, because it says, first also, please give me some topics of you just fear. Now, of course, the just few topics are not needed to call anyone. But it's important because since you just fear as a fully fully integrated platform. In the end, we want to link everything together pre prints with general relation without general relation abstracts general assembly presentations, all share the same set of issues fear topics that's a good thing. So let's say I take the same topics here of by just sciences, and I proceed. Then it says, since it now knows that I seek publication and journal it says okay, but in which journal. And then I have here all the egeo journals and let's say I'm also interested in by just sciences and I say proceed. Now, in principle, the form from here on is almost 100% the classical bg submission form. Why, because now it becomes important for example, let's look into the journal subject areas. I have already the issues fear topics, but since I see publication and bg for the bg review process, the system must call bg editors. So therefore I have to go through the first choice selection and the second so choice selection of biogeosciences, the same would have been if I said I want to be connected to ACP or to see P or any other journal. And the rest of course is also a bit more because when it comes to full journal articles and that is what I'm aiming for. And of course it's also about how the research is funded a PC payment information, you have seen that these kind of things were not asked for preprints without general relation. Why, because preprints without any general relation with a simple screening process and then an online posting and discussion are free of charge. And that is that you provide to the community as a complimentary service. So these are the two roads if I go through ages fear and from tomorrow on there's the third road with the external preprints as Barbara said, where I give the do I of my preprint sitting on another preprint server, where I use ages fear as my partner to have a public discussion and then maybe a later journal publication. The idea was from the beginning to make it as easy and comfortable as possible for those people who have published with each you in public peer review and open access journals for more than 20 years. So if I'm an ACP, largest journal of each you, and I'm on the submission page and I say, okay, yes, I want to register my manuscript. It now says, okay, you want to go to ACP that's clear. So should your preprint be posted and discussed discussed, if of course, passing the access review, and then you have the options ages fear or ACP discussions and the ACP discussions option that is what what Barbara was referring to. That's the one where the first preprint was public was posted on the third of September 2001. So more than 20 years ago. So I can then say, I want to go to ages fear and if I go to just fear and I proceed, then I'm an ages fear, but now the system already knows that I have this relation to atmospheric chemistry and physics. So therefore, I can now select my topics. Let's say I'm still in biology sciences for whatever reason. Then I proceed and then I have my preprint registration for peer review and ACP. So these are the different roles. And when I submit so that means, and that's the first point which is very important, people must not go through ages fear in a way that they have a bookmark on ages fear.net. And stay in that journal as they have done for the last 20 years so it's very silent thing. So let's assume I have my preprint submitted and I select the relation to ACP. So not ages fear moderators are called for a simple screening process, but instead ACP editors are called based on the ACP subject areas. They look onto my preprint, they found it reasonable and they accepted for preprint posting. So if it is an ages fear preprint, it will appear, of course, mainly and biographically correct on ages fear. We take an example here, this one from these colleagues, and it was posted on the 28th of February. It is, is this discussion, the discussion is open because it was just posted. And here you see, here you see the citation. The source of this preprint is ages fear. And the DOI is an ages fear DOI. Since I'm on ages fear, it's relatively clear why all these preprints here have an ages fear DOI and an ages fear citation, because we are simply on the recently posted page of ages fear. And the good thing is that also here, we promise that those people who are very familiar and feel very comfortable inside the ages journals, they must not worry. These colleagues here have submitted to ACP and they selected ages fear as their source of a preprint. When I now go to ACP, and they go to the recent papers page. I have to scroll a bit down because ACP is really publishing a lot. And I'm here at the 28th of February. Here you see the same preprint. And you see, although I'm in the library and the online library of ACP, you see that there's an ages fear. Let's say co-listing. We know this co-listing already, or you might have seen if journals have interjournal special issues where two or more journals collaborate on a special issue. Then you also see this co-listing. And here for the time being at the moment, it's an ages fear preprint, which has a topic selection that fits to ACP. So we found it's valuable for the ACP community. And by the way, of course, it has an ACP relation at the moment. So people see it here. And you also see that at the same time, the same day, another preprint was posted where the authors selected ACP D as their preprint source. So at the moment we are on a stage, except for Solid Earth. My congratulations to Susanne and 13 because Solid Earth said from the beginning know when ages fear start we go 100% ages fear. 18 EGU journals at the moment offer a choice for the authors to go either through ages fear or through the journals discussion forum. For the review process, as such, selection of editors, selection of referees, timings, reminders, deadlines. Because it all stays the same. It stays with the journal, although it's happening on ages fear. So let's say it's the best of both worlds. Later, we might, or we, it is our goal on one day in the future, if the, when the community has accepted ages fear, more that we switch to 100% ages fear and then it becomes really easy because then it's in some years from now it's very clear to everybody that when you submit to EGU journals, you have your preprint on ages fear, and then you might have your journal paper on the, on the journals website. So now it might be that this preprint, during the public peer review, it turns out that it's, it's might, it might not be feasible for consideration for ACP. And it might be that after the discussion, the editors say to the authors that they, they cannot consider this preprint, then the relation to ACP is released. And it means from that moment on ACP is no longer interested in this ages fear preprint. However, the preprint itself is primarily, primarily an ages fear preprint. So it will remain forever in the, in the library of ages fear. And if it comes to final journal publication, we cannot yet show you an example because we're simply not in that stage. The good thing is that ACP for sure lists the paper as Barbara said because it then is a final journal article with a citation of ACP of course. But at the same time, of course, the preprint is still with its bibliographic record on ages fear. And of course, since it is the same system, we link from the ages fear preprint to the final journal publication ACP. And now another feature here is also Susanne mentioned this, our collaboration with ESOR, with Earth Archive, with archive.org. It's not only that we allow their preprint posters to seek a public peer review on ages fear. But it's also for example that if authors announced that they have an ages fear preprint without a journal relation to an easier journal, or maybe they tested it, but it didn't went out. Later on, they are published at different journals at Springer or Elsevier. We can still link it. So the idea is that we say on ages fear is this really a preprint server. It's not that it is meant to be the preprint stage of the journals. So we are happy to add this information and then you can find on your ages fear preprint also linked to your final journal article, the related corresponding final journal article, maybe on Springer also. So these are the main features of ages fear. And one thing to add, we talked already about the topics, which you can, which you can find here. So please feel invited to have a look on your own. Because it's very interesting, especially for preprints without general relation, you will see that we have some topics here, which are really at the edge of the scopes of ages journals. And so far, you do has no journals in this, in this regard maybe, but of course you do is happy to welcome your preprints on such topics. Another important part is that you can look who is who are the preprint moderators, because if you have a preprint on ages fear with a general relation it's clear you're seeking for full peer review by journal editors and then you find all information on the individual websites. Whereas if you have a preprint without a general relation, we are not immediately targeting journal publication, then we have what we said this initial screening by the preprint moderators. So that's a really nice initiative because the being a preprint moderator is not only rewarding thing where you are where you're working with brand new science, maybe even so new that it's not yet in a format where you want to submit it to you want to bring the idea out, as the sun said, but the good thing that it is also very nice starting point for early career scientists to get involved. Even if you are maybe not accepted or you are you feel not, you feel yourself not ready for being an editorial board member of the well prestigious journal. So let's start with ages fear moderators. We have clear screening guidelines, you can see here how the screening works and what we are looking for. You have with the sun and excellent coordinator to help you. And this can also be a chance for early career scientists to to get involved in the business of peer reviewing as such. The ages fear moderators also relatively easy on the landing page of ages fear, we have linked this form. You can apply to become an ages for moderator. You give some of your application of your affiliation. We ask you for motivation, why you apply. You select your expertise from the same topic list as we have seen before. We ask for your CV to upload up your to your CV and a PDF format, and then we ask for two things. We ask for reference that can be your PhD supervisor or established colleague supporting your application. And we ask for for an endorsement from each you. And there we have each you council members or executive editors from each of these journals, who should endorse you. So the ideas and principle when a moderator comes. We have a reference we have an endorser, both the endorser and the reference asked to review your application and to give us their feedback. Ideally, of course, they support your application. And then it's the board of ages fear, which is Barbara, as a chair of the publications committee of you, Susanne as ages for coordinator, and the other executive and chief editors of ages journals, who can review the applications and accept them for final implementation. And this is something where we can where we kindly ask the community to think about applying, and since we cannot have enough moderators of course, and we still have some topics left on ages fear where we have no moderators yet. And this is of course, something we get we want to we want to close. Maybe so far, and regarding the pre prints, then Susanne also said that we have this other segment here. You have seen that under about we have some general things like FAQs like topics they are for both worlds, let's say, meetings and publications. Now I talked a lot about pre prints, which is more let's say the issue publication site regarding the conferences. And what you will see here, and that is a bit different because we had from Marie France Luther also the question, what is about the abstracts can there be any abstract. I have to answer no, because different from the pre prints where we say, Well, as long as you are within the scope of ages fear, and you can select one or more of the ages fear topics. I'm happy to welcome you, even if you are originally maybe not not as such an EU community member maybe you, you learn about you do for the first time. Well as for the conferences, and you just fear is the repository for each use conferences. And all of you hopefully knows the General Assembly this annual very large conference of you. We have the Alexander von Humboldt conference series, we have the Plenius conference series on Mediterranean risks. And we have the Galileo series of specific smaller topical conferences. And whenever they organize their abstract submission and and session organizations through our system. We also call us them here, as Suzanne said before 2020, we had, we have not assigned you eyes. So these abstracts are linked. And if you look into a Plenius, then you see here different abstracts, and you can filter or it's opposed us. And then they might have even display materials uploaded. Whereas if you go to conferences from 2020 on at the moment you only see his general assemblies but don't worry, you will see, even there, further conferences and simply that the smaller weren't able to transform the conference into a virtual format. So therefore, due to the pandemic they had had had to pause, but from 2022 on you will see that there will come up many more conferences. And then here if you go into something that select a small smaller program group so that it does not take too long. You have abstracts you have abstracts with this play materials or even abstracts was commented this play materials where you had a full discussion on the abstract presentation material, and then you can, you can watch them. You can learn about the abstracts and so on. So I really invite you to take a look on a just fear and to find out about the abstracts and presentations about the preprints and the options, and maybe we will see you again as a preprint and moderate on the just fear. We look forward to this. Thank you very much for your attention. Excellent. Thank you, Martin Barbara and Susanna. Now we'll move on to the Q&A section of the webinar. We've had a couple of questions popped into Q&A box. There are a few qualifications and what's already been spoken I think Martin you might have mentioned these topics or ever already, but to clarify, could you just answer whether a paper can remain forever on each sphere about being submitted to a journal, and whether it's possible to register paper in you just fear only and later move it to a journal. Yes. Should I Susanna or would you like to please go ahead. Yeah. So we got in the first question Marie-France. So, indeed, yes, a paper remains forever on each sphere. That's by the way also something we had, we had also criticism in the past that you is keeping everything online and documented, even if it is rejected. And this is this is part of the IGU and Copernicus shared open access policy. So therefore, if you have a preprint, and whatever you suggested so either you went immediately without a general relation, or you had a general relation first, but you might not be accepted in the journey so you you you lose your connection. As long as you're posted on you just fear, you have the bibliographic record of the just fear, you will remain there. And, and, but people will not find out that you have submitted also to an IGU journal, or to any other journal for for another publisher and regarding the second question. Yes, indeed. That is, that is, in this, in this graph, Barbara showed, and besides the three main roads we have some nice additional features. There are two big ones, the one is what you exactly described, namely, first I, let's say I didn't feel encouraged to submit with a general relation, because it was first an idea, and I submitted to you just fear as a standalone preprint. It is screened by a moderator accepted, posted online, people discuss it. And during the discussion I get some nice insights, and then I feel encouraged to submit it to an IGU journal. And that's exactly what I can do during the discussion or after the discussion so at the end of the discussion time of six months and you just fear, if you have no general relation. And we asked the authors, your regular discussion time is over. You have now two options, either you simply let the discussion be archived and that's it, or you reconsider having a relation to an IGU journal. And it's the IGU journal's editors being called asking, hey, do you think this preprint, this standalone preprint, so far only screened. It's eligible for your journal yes or no. And if yes, the public peer review on the journal starts again. Another nice feature is, if you submit with a journal relation, and the journal editors called, and they found that your preprint is not yet eligible for full journal peer review. They can downgrade your preprint in a way that they that they say to you, okay, we have two options, either I reject it or we transform it into a standalone preprint. So in there, authors have different options. Thank you for your answer, Martin. We have two more questions just come in. The first is how much time does the moderator have for accepting and rejecting the preprints. He wants to answer that one. Take that one. So Barbara can take that. Okay. Yes, so it's actually very fast. So we hope that the preprint moderators pick up the submitted preprints within one day so the cause are organized such that in the first day. The preprint moderators that match the topics are called. So if you have a response of these moderators, then the moderate or moderators are called. And if then, within, again, within one day, no moderator picks up the preprint, then the edu sphere coordinator so some steps in, and contact the moderators and ask them to pick up this preprint so basically, we want to have a very, very quick turnaround because the preprints are posted within a couple of days or three days. Excellent. Thank you, Barbara. And we have another question, which is, are ECS welcome as moderators. Susanna, do you want to take that one. Oh, absolutely. So definitely early career scientists welcome as moderators we would love to have you on board. So there's no, there's not any restriction in the sense of career stage and when you go to the preprint moderator page. And you will see that many people are early career scientists, but also, I appear there too I'm definitely not identifying as early career scientists. So so we we aim for for a diverse distribution background of our moderators. The only thing we ask is as a moderator is that you have affinity with the open access publication process so that you subscribe to the whole idea of preprint posting. And that you have some experience with reviewing publishing. That doesn't mean editor experience but you know it would be lovely if you have actually submitted to paper and that you have reviewed the paper. That's it really. So we ask for endorsement it's all clear when you follow the format it's really not a lot. And we're really looking for some more moderate applications and as Martin said we have a few gaps. But yeah, so it's a, the more the better. So absolutely. Excellent. Thanks for clarifying. So I guess the takeaway from that is, if not sure about experience, you have as long as you've engaged in the publication process at some point, it's missing or reviewing. I have some understanding of what open access is, then you should feel free to apply to be a moderator. Absolutely. Excellent. That's all the questions we have for now. And I think that's a good time to end the webinar. So I then I'd like to thank all the attendees for joining us today. And I'd like to again thank our speakers, Barbara Martin and Suzanne for all the information you've given. Yes, thank you very much. This webinar available on YouTube next week. And thanks again.