 We are broadening the concept of what a DevOps team is. So security and business teams are critical to software development. There's stakeholders in this kind of software value chain, but traditionally they've been left on the outside. There are things that have happened before the process, to the left, or in this case above, and after the process. So integrating those folks into the system is going to be, those are going to be additional points of integration, additional visibility problems you're going to have if it isn't already built in there to start with. And a lot of these tools, especially some of the open source ones, are legacies, you know, an easy word to throw around. And I don't know, I try to avoid it. But a lot of these were purpose built systems that didn't really take that into perspective. And again, you're going to have to manage developments that are kind of on the cutting edge.