 Okay. Thank you. Thanks very much. Those of you still coming in, there are some seats at the front. But it's now my enormous pleasure to welcome Kate Bowles, who's our first keynote speaker. And many of you know Kate Bowles because she is an open practitioner. She practices her openness through her online presence, particularly her blog, her lyrical blog, I might say, music for deck chairs, and through her engagement on Twitter. So even though she comes from far away, she feels very much part of our lives. And for those of you who haven't read her blog, I encourage you to do so. Kate is a unique voice. Catherine and I had, we thought as one when we thought of Kate and inviting her to be here. She manages this extraordinary thing, which is to be both deeply critical and profoundly compassionate at the same time, which you would think would be irresolvable, and yet that's what she does. And what she does is she voices what is troubling in higher education and in society in a way that avoids despair, as I know we'll hear today. So I'm not going to go through Catherine, through Kate's fabulous CV. I'm just going to mention that it's really interesting that her job is in internationalization in higher education, which gives her a global view. But I think it's her global view that enables her to do her job. She has a profoundly global view. She's a critical pragmatist and she told us yesterday that she was putting together the pieces of the quilt. And so I'm delighted that she's going to be sharing the quilt with us today and the pattern that she's created. So please welcome Kate Bowles. Thank you. This has been a really lovely welcome and it's an absolute joy to be here. In Australian events like this, it's very common to begin with an acknowledgement of the fact that the country on which we work has a continuous relationship of care to its traditional owners. And in fact this is starting to apply to acknowledgements to works that are made in Australia and carried elsewhere. So I'd like to let you know that this quilt of a talk was made on Wadi Wadi country of the Darrell people and I bring it to you with my profound respect to their elders for their continuous care of their unceded country on which I work. I also want to thank my good friend and recently retired academic colleague and feminist activist Rebecca Albury for this beautiful quilt. Her quilt has given me a slightly adjusted title for this talk and a new emphasis. It's called Expanded Universe and it got me thinking about the expanding university in which we work. Yesterday Leo published a blog that said that when we talk about open we also think about closed and I think when we think about closed we often bring with that some assumptions about the traditional university, a university like this one that is constituted around its values that is trying to do what it's trying to do in the world. I believe the traditional university is changing at such a rate that it is absolutely transforming the prospect that resources will continue to be available to do open work in a good way. I think therefore as open practitioners, as people who care about open, we absolutely have to conduct a forensic and ongoing examination of the closed university. We have to understand the expanded university's aggressive business tactics. We have to understand why it is that the expanding university has started to take a sort of interest in open and has become hopelessly porous in its outsourcing and hiring practices without ever actually truly being open. This is something that really matters to us so this talk is now actually about the expanding university. But I want to start here because this talk is also a bit about stars and a bit later on it's a bit about rivers. My daughter expressed complete disbelief that there were so many different things in this talk but I think it's because it's a kind of a quilt so she said to me is this just everything you've looked up on Google? And to an extent I say it is when I was first asked to do this talk I was thrown suddenly because I don't consider myself to be a part of the open community in the way that you are. I haven't done the research, I haven't walked on the ground that you've walked on, I haven't developed the libraries of resources that you've developed. And I've often looked at open and found myself thinking is that it is what I do, what I'm supposed to be doing. So I was taken back to my first experience of learning something somewhat in the open outside of formal education which was from this little book. This was the first non-fiction book I was ever given and I was blown away by the discovery that I think we hope all our learners have that what was on the page was in the sky above me. I couldn't believe it but I also learned something about disappointment in learning from this little book because try as I might I couldn't see the Milky Way in the way that the book described. I stared at the sky, the book described a vivid pathway and I saw a kind of murky cloud and I felt that this was probably my fault that I was probably looking in the wrong direction. What I've discovered is the real profound truth about the Ladybird Book of the Night Sky which was shipped all over the world is that it only speaks in a very partial way to the night sky in the northern hemisphere and now that I live in the southern hemisphere I know that there are deep and enduring practices of indigenous knowledge that have attached indigenous cosmology to agricultural practices and ways of moving around our huge country and that this was only one way of looking and I think that's also important to us as we think about open who makes resources and who receives them what happens if what's in the resource isn't what's in the sky above you but because I'm here I also want to celebrate the career of Mary Brooke who wrote this little book she was an Irish astronomer and like many lady astronomers she had significant trouble pursuing her own career because she was married to a more famous astronomer and she was raising his children and in fact quite a lot of her publications came out after he died and they were about the careers of other women astronomers so a shout out to Mary Brooke Irish astronomer. I think this is an important lesson for us too. People can only produce resources if they are supported to do so. Mary Brooke committed her entire career to the caring labor of teaching and therefore she's an important kind of precedent for us but we also need to look at what made it very difficult for her to do what she did. This is the question that Mary Brooke asked about the shape of the universe the expanding universe for her she had really big questions that was pretty overwhelming to receive this question in a ladybird book when I was little but it conveyed to me the idea that the world might be a bigger place than I could see in suburban England. Let's go back to Rebecca's quilt which I showed you a detail from this is the whole thing and you can see that Rebecca is asking the exact same question about the universe. What lies just outside of the margins of what we can immediately perceive what larger scope is there for our preoccupations for our human scale. Mary Brooke and Rebecca both looked up at the night sky and you'll see that the stars in Rebecca's quilt quite unusually escape the border that the quilt has assigned and I think this is as good a metaphor for open as I can come up with. I think it's very important that we think about what is beyond what we can see but we also need to think about the labor of producing a thing like this. So I asked Rebecca how long did it take you to make this quilt and this is the email she sent me back last night. Rebecca had to map all this out for me because I'm not a quilter and I felt a little anxious bringing a title of a talk that says quilting implying that I might know something about it. I truly don't so Rebecca had to explain to me that this is how a quilt is made and this is more or less how people have had to explain OER to me. It doesn't just pop up in the library it isn't just there is shareable in a magical sort of way there is a great deal of planning behind every good thing that we see and that we can share and so we would all recognize ourselves I think in the temporality of Rebecca's design process and what I really like is the end after all that designing and thinking and wondering and as it turns out she was responding to a brief talking with fellow quilters got the problems solved quicker. That's great advice so now I want to go back to an older quilt and this might be the quilt that Francis expected me to talk about this is a very well known quilt this is Ellen Harding Baker's beautiful solar system quilt from 1876 it's in the Smithsonian it is a precedent OER it has outlived her it continues to be useful it is scientifically accurate to an extraordinary degree this is Halley's Comet which passed by a few years before she made this quilt and again I want to bring this quilt to you to think about the labor of making resources there's very little about Ellen Harding Harding Baker but but enterprising archivists have found this contemporaneous newspaper account this quilt took her seven years to make because she went to Chicago to look at the information through the telescope that she needed in order to ensure that it was completely accurate and from this she devised a lecture in astronomy which she took around her community in 1876 it was really hard to be a lady academic and one of the few fields that was even relatively open to women was astronomy so Ellen Harding Baker decided that this would be her labor she entered into the caring labor of teaching and she made this extraordinary quilt to go with it Ellen Harding Baker died at the age of 39 after having seven children so that's also what she was doing two of whom predeceased her so this is the world that we are working in this world that has a history and a history of practice a history of craft but also a history of the profound intractability of space and time that we've all gone through to get here I was intending to share a different tweet by Martin because we had a bit of back and forth about looking at the stars when we were kids but in fact this is Martin's pinned tweet and I think it's really lovely let's remember where we are because this is the problem that we are all causing as open practitioners for this little planet I have flown a great distance to be here many of you have flown similar distances to be here and while I absolutely support the values of the flying less movement it's a very northern hemisphere movement it's a movement that says if you can't get there by a plane you can get there by a train actually this is not conceivable from Australia or where I'm coming from I could have come by sea that would have taken a really long time but I do think at this point it's timely for me to give a huge shout out to virtually connecting because although I think virtually connecting started off for different reasons one of the things that they've done is made it thinkable for us to imagine a conference in which virtual participation in which flying less is a credible way of using up the resources of our planet so thank you now interestingly this has stopped moving I'm not taking this personally I might Martin said no more flying Martin said if you have any trouble I will be right there so I I thought well I would just widen my eyes slightly and Martin will come to the front and and this is that that's it okay thank you Martin I'd now like to invite you into an activity which is an icebreaker but it's a silent icebreaker I've discussed icebreakers at length with people and I am on the introverted side so in fact when someone says icebreaker something happens in my lower gut and so for anyone else who identifies in this way this is an entirely silent reflective exercise that will help us come gently into this room it's based on an idea from our illness sociologist Arthur Frank that whenever we meet whenever we meet anybody we become hosts and guests in one another's lives and that this is a moral moment in which we decide how we will treat one another I want to expand this idea of a moral moment with something that comes from narrative practice which is remembering exercise the little hyphen is important where we also bring into the moral moment of our encounter other people who are important to us silently and in our thoughts so I want to ask you each to think quietly and deeply about three people firstly I'd like to invite you to think about one person who has made it easier for you to be here today whether you're here in your room at home or here in Galway someone is protecting your time and attention someone is minding your kids someone is teaching your class someone is looking after your dog think of that person and secondly if you're here in Galway I'd like you to think of one person that you regret is not here someone that you feel it would have been great if they could come with you but money or travel or work or other responsibilities prevented them from being here and I'd like to invite you to bring them quietly into the room and as part of that I'd like you to think about all of the people who are not here but are participating virtually you are in their lives too and they are in yours what can you do while you're here to make them feel co-present with you the first step is to acknowledge that you are already co-present with them in their homes in their offices wherever they're following along and finally and this is a very dear one I'd like you to think very deeply and with gratitude there's someone who has helped you in the longer journey that brought you here today who helped you to read who encouraged your curiosity who supported your early career who knows how important open is to you who would look at you here or at home and say I thought you'd be there that is totally what I expected because I think when we come together we come together in a certain kind of corporeal reality but there is a much larger ghostly kind of shape around us like the universe beyond the borders of the quilt I think it's very good to keep that in mind so just Laura mentioned briefly that I have an open practice when I said I don't think I'm part of the open community Laura said well you can be an ally I thought that was lovely so if you are an ally I have an open practice and my open practice many of you have seen it's mostly on Twitter it's partly on WordPress it involves a large number of students it's messy it's tentative it's exploratory it's opportunistic I'm quite likely to mention you in something if I think that a student of mine needs to know about you and if you want to take a moment sometime not necessarily now check out the hashtag my curiosity as part of our degree program where all of our students are on Twitter and WordPress and Reddit and Twitch and Instagram they're all over the shop from day one students currently in the second year of our degree working with me there's about 240 of them are pursuing independent public projects researching the student experience from the point of view of students and the hashtag for that is my curiosity if you pop in at the moment you'll see they're all learning how to use Twitter polls to test with their peers an idea has legs or doesn't have legs so you know as you as you will this kind of thing has risks but mostly it comes with I think great opportunity for students at a regional university in the southern hemisphere this is one of my students I should say that all of the Twitter screenshots in this are shared with permission and there is some more controversial ones coming up this is Olivia who's in my class and her curiosity is about self-confidence and learning and I'm enormously proud that instead of putting this in some kind of Moodle Dropbox she gets to put it out there and anybody can come by and give her a shout this is my shout out to my tremendous colleagues my colleague Chris Moore and his students live tweet science fiction movies every week and this is their subject number trending on Australian Twitter every week this is brought an enormous number of people to through our front door to see what on earth BCM325 is about and it's Chris and his students tweeting their film screenings and this is the kind of thing that happens in my open practice somebody shares something from my network and I know two students might want to know about this and in this case I'm introducing two students to each other because they're not connected we all do this you all do this many of you have interacted with my teaching and my students in this way and this is an everyday miracle in the open we stop thinking about this I think when we do it a lot but I want to thank all of you who've taken the time to come and read my students blogs or have a think about what they're up to particularly shout out to Bonnie Stewart who is working closely with a student of mine at the moment giving her bits of thoughts about ethnography the context for this what's beyond the border of my open pedagogy is the expanding university where I work it's regulatory it's growth hungry it's rankings focused it's a hustling institution it's constantly chasing reputational gain in public and I'm just going to walk you through fairly quickly a couple of it seems to me exemplary slides of the way in which all of our expanded universities are now talking this is my field of expertise I work in internationalization as Laura mentioned and this is how the expanded university talks about internationalization of learning internationalization of learning when international students come to your universities is treated as export trade data and it is spoken about in these terms and with these charts this chart describes the movement of young people from countries outside the country where you work to come and work at your study at your university this is trade data and because it's the trade data it's talked about by politicians who specialize in trade and they say things like this our education exports are ripe for growth fabulous news what he means there is that we are recruiting young people often from price sensitive countries who we think will pay more than domestic students to come and do undergraduate degrees and cross subsidize our research and our other teaching ripe for growth this is a specific spin that we place on trade data in relation to internationalization in Australia relentlessly and over years and years and years we compare it to the extraction of iron ore coal and sometimes gold we literally compare it to mining and we do this without a blush without shame all our trade weighted departments do this our government does this but perhaps most crushingly for those of us who work in Australian universities our own internal lobby group does a version of this so universities Australia says that it's okay Australians will go for international education because it's making a contribution to prosperity what a chilling thing to say about young people crossing the world to learn and this is how the expanded university thinks it thinks in bar charts and it thinks in progress over time every time you see a bar chart you know that someone is wondering how it will go next year or whether it's better than last year because the expanded university thinks in trends it is restlessly incapable of being present in the moment it always wonders and worries about the future in charts as she's keynote made this point and i think it's absolutely spot on we have become captivated by this spectacle we have become seduced by a defective logic and we have come to accept a logic of a system that is defective and this is what it looks like this is a blog post last week from paul prinsley who's writing i i admire without any hesitation at all i think he's he writes in a way about the expanded university that we should all read and paul writes about the fact that the way in which the expanded university works and thinks is now leading us to practice a kind of fear a kind of fearful response to the demands that are made on us and now i want to talk very briefly about the fact that it's not all about people like me and people like paul and probably people like most of you i wonder if i could ask in gallway for a show of hands for how many of you have or have retired from a secure job that is a job that lasts for more than two years that you had a contract that hired you for that time in australia we are seeing the rapid mobilization of casualization as a solution to a largely manufactured budgetary crisis and i'm sharing this particular quote with you because my own university has at last found a list that it can be top of the last week you may have seen the conversation in australia attempted a kind of both sides of casualization and put out an article that said well casualization is not going anywhere so maybe we should try to make casualization a better experience for everyone not by giving casuals real jobs but somehow by making casual jobs harder to get and this article said that what was really great about casualization is that it gives the flexibility to hourly paid workers to work for more than one organization uh john petrini again i'm quoting this with permission it is i the casual academic who loves the flexibility of working six contracts across three institutions simply to eat the australian academy for the humanities has started to report on the precarity the impact of precarity on developing a future workforce and this is where open education comes in because for people to make resources they have to be supported they have to have time they have to be able to do the things that they have been skilled to do and you can't do this if your first second and third job are all side hustles and here's the double whammy it's disproportionately affecting scholars who are from minority backgrounds so although this is the way that the expanded university talks about research the restrictive pipeline of research labor in fact what's buried in here is a very serious thing about social justice and casualization so again with permission cat oakley responded to fellow batty sharing a report about very high levels of mental and physical ill health in the uk system and she said i left and it's better than i left because it would have done for me let's stop and think about this for a moment and i'm going to go carefully through this next little bit we've been reading this story the death of an adjunct the hunter was a promising brilliant scholar and died of a preventable acceleration of a chronic condition for which she could not get insurance as an adjunct she had an asthma attack and this isn't the first time that we've seen this headline in 2013 migrant mary vodko died still working as an adjunct as at 83 destitute because she had neither health care nor pension arrangements and could not afford to stop working and i share this with you with the greatest of respect i've made a personal commitment to keep the name of professor stefan grim in all of our minds this is the email that was sent to him by imperial college london shortly before he died this is how the expanded university talks to us this is its ethic of care for us i was worried when i was making the the pieces of this quilt that it was all too dark but we're now moving to the end which is a bit lighter how do we hold a global system accountable for a failure of care at this scale on my way here i had a bit of a bit of biffo with george seamans who is known to many of you and again he's given permission for me to share these tweets with you it's part of a long thread which also included martin in which george was saying that universities who weren't getting into a certain kind of innovation were screwed part of that long thread he said this and i read this and international students are people who are dear to me and i thought well if this is how we're talking about students particularly international students actually were already screwed if this is how we think so i put this to george that the issue wasn't a failure of growth but a failure of care and he said this very interesting thing back caring is an attribute of people it is not an attribute of systems and i'm completely taken with this proposition as one that we must rebut meanwhile in the exact same moment phil wood who many of you will know writes about academic workloads was also involved in a long conversation and i'm quoting this this with care he said the problem is that individuals have an ethic of care and universities don't and this creates a dissonance but he points out that this is also a dissonance for the university system and i think it is i think it's how come we come to seem troublesome so just briefly the ethic of care in action this is angus he works on the team that i convene i'm the only person in a team of six with a full-time job the other five are all casuals one has been casual working for 10 weeks at a time twice a year for 13 years angus chose to engage in some support of his students on twitter this morning and i said but here's the thing angus this you are now engaging in consultation with students this is something that the faculty has decided it will not pay for and so you have absorbed this as part of an ethic of care into your own open work practice and i've become mindful that while we're enormously proud of our program being out on twitter because it is between 70 and 90 percent casually taught we are using up other people's time in a reckless way so the risk is that open practice can without a system-wide ethic becomes another caring labor i'm going to wind up very quickly and run through something about rivers change is possible if you're from australia you know this is our beautiful Murray Darling system and it is a river system like a university system that is absolutely in crisis the Murray Darling river is at ground level dying i take great hope from critical pragmatism of thinkers like henry jiru who says if we are going to have hope we have to be realistic about the environment that we work in this is what the Murray Darling river looks like and its complex reality is that it is facing system collapse for predictable reasons too much water has been taken out upstream there is too little left for the thing that the river is supposed to do this is exactly how universities are also working the first step we need to take is to name the crisis this is no longer a river the expanded university in profound and important ways is no longer a university and let's have a think about what's possible Jerome Bruner narrative scholar says every story is measured by the story that it might be possible to tell about the same thing here's my one message to you i do believe change is possible i am an optimist and i believe optimism is a discipline not an emotion a couple of good news from the the world of rivers new zealand has granted legal personhood to both a river and a lake canada is considering putting into its bill of rights the human right to a good environment this because i'm i'm going to wrap up quickly i'm just going to let you know that the wonganui iwi who argued for the protection of the river wonganui had to use existing laws and systems so to achieve system change in universities we have to use the systems that universities are prepared to value and i'm going to close with a discussion of about 30 seconds on rankings because at last a ranking that measures what matters has come out of the times higher education and with profound gratitude to them i want to thank them for the sustainable development goals rankings they have ranked universities around the world for whether or not they are meeting the united nations sustainable development goals sustainable development goal eight focuses on decent work the times higher ed developed four metrics on this universities must research work they must have good employment practices and they must have a proportion of students taking work placements but the big one is this one we now have a ranking system in place that says the casualization of the university workforce is a genuine concern thank you to the times higher education system for this hope is not a pipe dream hope is the most important resource that we have to promote the social change that we care about and it's the heartbeat of our politics the last time i saw rebecca she was at a climate change rally we've all been watching young people rallying for climate change and that's where i saw rebecca hanging out with her fellow quilter activists so i'm leaving you with this image it has some strong australian language in it but i think it is exactly the energy that we need for change thank you thank you so much i'm speechless but i know there'll be questions and we do have a few minutes so please take the opportunity to pick up any one of kate's profound and visionary and compelling and difficult comments to ask questions of kate the right place thank you to react because when you are in need because you work to eat and also you're not in your country because you left there's too much threatening things underlying your feet and you just don't have that space because if you lose those hours you can't just live and i always wonder what's the right place because i'm a rebel and i'm always going to be what's the right moment in the right place where you say you know what i'll leave or whatever you want to do in order to to rebel yourself against this but i'm not sure what what that is and i said sorry my alarm and i see you talking and i kind of think you are in a safe space in a way to talk and and and whatever you say against the system you are protected because you have a right to not be um how do you say um fired in a way but if we talk we're not hired anymore it's a tricky place to be and it's a place where i don't want to be but i have to be and so that is kind of my reflection about this um first i absolutely respect that uh situation i think that casuals all over the world are saying the same thing and i think one of the ways in which systems break down is that they ask the most vulnerable people in those systems to do the labor of fixing the system i actually think that it's important it's incumbent upon all of our organizations organizations like all to organizations like this one to change the language in which we describe universities so we stop describing them as though all is well and we don't leave the work of pointing the crisis out to the people who are experiencing the crisis in their lives and so i think uh probably what triggered me into responding to george for example was that he spoke about the institution and the university there is literally no such thing this river is no longer a river and so uh i think the work needs to be done with considerable new forms of solidarity and i hope that the open community is one from which this solidarity might more robustly emerge than it has okay thank you uh on rob farrow with the open university um thank you very much for your talk i think you're talking about the right things bring up the attention to the right areas i wonder if you could share a perspective on the importance of generational difference for this because in the uk at least there's a big sort of cohort of academics who are kind of just coming up to retirement now um and they've sort of been less affected by this kind of thing when they're coming up through the ranks let's say um and the whole market has changed around that generation um and it's not just an education it's in other things like health care and that kind of thing i wonder if that is mirrored in your experience in you know different hemisphere a different community um and whether you think it is there is a generational element to this that explains some of the you know these idea of the bigger fish you know they're the ones who need to change in a way they're the they're the more effective agents of change but everything is rolling downhill onto the people coming in at the bottom so do you think that's a generational thing or does it reflect some sort of change in power structures more generally to be honest i think it's both i think it varies from country to country uh from as you put it market to market um i think the reason that we see migrant mary vochco working in her 80s in the united states is that they've had longer to develop an academic underclass than the uk or australia uh laura reminded me that i asked her five years ago about casualization in south africa and she said i don't think we have any and they do now um i think there is a generational discourse around this why won't the baby boomers retire one of the interesting things about me is that i am the last baby boomer so baby boomers still have kids in high school we we look like me and i think that we need to stop talking about this uh what we might call kind of bed blocker generation who are not moving on and if they only moved on they would release all of these decent this decent work to another generation universities have become absolutely fixated on cheap labor so they're not going to be passing on the decent jobs that people like me hold to people like you they're going to be because they can change the way that they budget for uh resourcing so i think it's generational but the generational aspect is confusing what is very important is that people coming into the profession now and working for years on casual contracts are not building up any kind of pension capability and i think that's uh something we need to be absolutely attentive to because we're not just trashing the river now but we're trashing the river in the future second row and then yeah that's right i don't know your name sorry yeah and will you introduce yourself please right uh as far as i know my name's bill johnson i used to be a lecturer before i retired so i'm one of the baby boomers who victimized young people so we're told it sadly i didn't notice it as it was coming up through the ranks it might question to you kate which i think your talk is spot on the question would be do you see a role for organizations like trade unions which were traditional kind of bulwarks against exploitation to be frank and also the traditional socialist and social democratic political parties and the political left generally in the u k as in australia i think academic trade unions have found it very hard to lobby for people who work securely and people who work insecurely at the same time because their lives are entangled in ways that are really difficult to see but a big shout out to the ntu in australia who are now campaigning vigorously on casualization having taken a while to come to this and i think the same is also true in the uk absolutely i think we need to resist the demonization of labor organizations it's not in our interests to have old-fashioned ideas about labor organizations governing our practice in the present and i think that we need to have labor organizations that are absolutely good at managing what is becoming an academic gig economy hi thank you i'm Virginia Rose from uruguay latin america english is not my mother language so i will try to express myself um i think uh the the whole sheet you show is the is the origin of our open education is the hidden curriculum we have this is what open education was created so as to deliver content in in ship sorry budget content for everybody and we have to see it and think different ways to think about open education but this is this rhetoric is inside our heart inside our ways to consider open education so um what do you think we can do with this mess um i that was very clear thank you i'm open education this is inside our heart um i think this is why i practice optimism in this company specifically i think that this is exactly the community that has a track record of caring about social justice when facing outwards and now needs to care equally about social justice facing inwards the social justice issues are now inside the house and i believe that inadvertently some aspects of open practice including my own are worsening the justice issues inside the house for the time being um and so i think we need to develop a new consciousness a new lens on justice that allows us to match the justice of working conditions with the justice of learning conditions that have always been our focus um i think it's exactly the right question and i think this is the right community uh julia time for one last question julia hankser from vancouver island university in british columbia um do you think that competitive commercialization of the expanded university is at fundamental odds with the collaborative oer movement can they be reconciled are we needing to reorient the post-secondary educational system and as an example i wasn't aware of my colleague lisa oniel is speaking later about the commercialization of mooks and the freemium kind of model that's moving into that so might you have a comment uh just very briefly um i don't believe the two are incompatible i don't believe they can be incompatible because the host organization underwrites the time and resources that's available to people who have some kind of employment um they must they must begin to talk to each other about their values i i love i love that we started with values they must begin to talk to one another about their values um mindful of the fact that this is being livestreamed i will tell you that when i told my executive dean that i was coming to this conference and i said what the conference was he asked me what open education is so i think that the open education movement has hidden very effectively in the weeds of higher education and i think perhaps it's time to reveal your presence okay um we we we do have a tea but we have a couple of announcements but before them can we please have a last round of applause for a moving and wonderful kid killer sperm blue and humpback these are some of the ways of go away pay come see these beautiful intelligent creatures hire big goggie web stuff for all of their academic projects that thing they do with the tail that's them dancing in happiness at another successful project by big goggie web stuff you're not going to need a bigger budget you're going to need big goggie web stuff dark killer sperm blue and humpback these are some of the ways of go away pay come see these beautiful intelligent creatures hire big goggie web stuff for all of their academic projects that thing they do with the tail that's them dancing in happiness at another successful project by big goggie web stuff you're not going to need a bigger budget you're going to need big goggie web stuff darker