 You might need a theme song for your shit. Check this out. Turn it right. Now, why shit, see Ben? Jackthriller.com, we creep in. Snoop Dogg to the left, Jackthriller to the right. Jackthriller.com, do it all night. Hit the website. Hit us up real quick. If you're trying to get hooked up with a bad super bitch. DJ T-Rex. All right, man. Hey, how you feeling today? That's what I'm talking about, man. It is what it is. Hey, we're going to have a wonderful show, man. I got some amazing guests. But first, let me introduce my co-host, man. He is the godfather of the crank movement. And he's my first cousin, man. My blood cousin, man. Y'all give it up for the one and only, Lil Playboy. Hey, one thing about it, podcast. She's in the house. She wanted to find this co-host I've ever had in my life. Y'all give it up for the one and only, Amani Talks. Here we go. Yeah. And yo, the guest of honor in here today, man, he is a philanthropist. He is a dream maker. He is a rapper. He's a producer. He's an entrepreneur. He's a millionaire. He wears so many different hats. He is a keeper of bad bitches. He is a nigga that takes care of all of his kids and all of his baby mamas. Yeah, I'll say that one now. Come on now. Y'all give it up for Ugly Money, Nietzsche. Not Nietzsche. Nietzsche. Nietzsche, baby. Come on, man. Hey, man, interview with your co-host, bro. Hey, man, you know, we got this show called Trigger. Look, we get triggered every now and then. And so, you know, you and Lil Playboy came on my show last night. I think it's on the right that me and my co-host come on your show. And we turn up, you know, New Jack Thrill City. My boy, B is just chilling to be it, man. B is just chilling, B is just chilling, man. Come on, man. That's what's up. Now it's a party. Yeah, I appreciate you having me on here, bro. Man, dawg, I wouldn't have it any other way. Man, so, too many, yo, let's go on Nietzsche. Put me down, dawg. Yes, sir. How does this even begin? Because you go back to it. 8 Ball, MJG. No problem, appreciate it, bro. You know, you go back to, you know, all the comedians, you know what I'm saying? They know you as Pete Nice. You didn't reinvent yourself seven times. Yeah, that's part of it. You know what I'm saying? Dawg, take me back for those who think they know. But don't know nothing at all. Well, I always wanted to be a rapper. And so, you know, originally from Virginia, I was an army brat, so I always moved around a lot. And I was the kid that I had to learn how to make friends real quick. OK. Because we always moved around as kids. And so, you know, I had this dream and this love for music. And I wanted to be, you know, the biggest rapper in the world, like, you know, just about everything in the hood. Of course. So, you know, in my pursuit of that dream, I picked up a lot of skills and a lot of things on the way, you know what I'm saying? My videographer didn't want to give him a music video back. So I taught myself how to shoot music videos and edit content. Or, you know, the radio station didn't want to play my song. So I had to get a radio show so I could play my song I want an hour. And the club didn't want to let me perform. So I was like, I'm going to throw my own party before I'm on stuff. So, you know, actually it's kind of funny. Everything that I've done in my career is because somebody else let me down. It's because somebody else didn't show up to work. So when they didn't show up to work, instead of getting mad and posting a sensitive Facebook status or a tweet, I just learned your job. So I don't need you no more. Yes, sir. Yeah, come on, push a button for that, man. Push a button for that. Yo, yo, you know what time it is? That's right. Jack Beauty of the Week, man. Hosted by Gigi McGuire. Show me the honeys. That's right. Who's coming with me? Gigi, let's get it. It's me, your girl Gigi McGuire. Miss, show me the money. And we are here with Shasta Model. My name is Shasta, but I go by Shasta Model. Come on, Shasta Model. I'm giving tall drink of water. Actually, I was giving tall drink of hot chocolate, OK? Because it's cold outside. And this thing is looking real sweet, honey. I'll take a sip. Three of it, yeah. So how old are you? I'm 29 years old. 29. With your sign. Big Capricorn. Big Capricorn. Oh. Yes, I'm here for it. How tall she is? I'm 5'10". OK, Model. Model. Stallion, if you will. Come on, now. So what's your hometown? Where you from? So I was born here in Marriott, Georgia, but I was raised in Louisiana. So I mean, that's home for me. But this is my second home. I've been here for about 11 years now. I love Louisiana. I buy the hot sauce all the time. Best food. The best food. I actually just came from Louisiana. And you want to know why I went? Yes. To eat. Wow. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. You got to go to Louisiana to eat. I went to New Orleans for two days, and my sole purpose was to eat. Do any daiquiris? I did not do any daiquiris. Yeah, I stay away from the sugar-filled alcohol drink, you know? That's how I maintain my youthfulness. It's OK. We're here for it. So what is your sexual interest? Are we strictly dickly? Are we a little gay sometimes? On a weekend, we're bisexual. Yes, yes. Pretty girls. Baby. What is your thoughts on 50-50 relationships? OK, so I'm that girl that likes my man to be a provider. So I think 50-50 are for a roommate. So unless you want to be a roommate, you got to be a provider. You want to be head of my household, you got to be a provider. Can roommates get some pussy, though? He said all or nothing. I don't room with grown men. You got to be a provider if you want to stay with me. We live together. What if I don't want to stay? Would I just need to come and go? You got to provide something for me. People come and go and spend the night at hotels. They pay for that. Got you. OK, I see what you did. I see what you did. It all comes along with something. So you got to make that investment in me. OK. Yeah, we don't do 50-50. I see what you did. And I'll be taking an orgasm. Because if you do that, you are a stroke in somebody's ego. You're giving them a false sense of thinking he that dude. You just got to be like, you know what I'm doing. But you've never faked it like that. No, usually, if I don't get mine, we just done. Like, I'm cool with just like now. I'm going to just roll over. OK. I'm good. And are you giving him a second chance? Is there a redemption happening for him to redeem himself? It depends on how much I like you. If I like you, then yes, you can redeem yourself. OK, because you know players welcome too. Yeah. You can't have a good day every day. Exactly. Exactly. But I got to really like you for you to redeem yourself. I'll be here for that. I'll give you a second chance. Maybe. Maybe. So where can the people find you? You can find me on the gram. Tiktok at Shaz the Model. That's S-H-A-Z-T-H-E Model. Shaz the Model. I also want to shout out Betty Kaston, my girl, Nikki, for getting us on this gig today. Shout out to Gigi. Shout out to Jack. I appreciate y'all so much. We love you. Opportunity. We love you, Stallion. Bro, you done built the empire. Yeah, I should have built it. An empire too. I mean, everybody know your name. Everybody fucking with your man. You know what I'm saying? You got a real tight relationship with Booze on first name basis. You got the goddamn gate open to up a little thing. Boo, my boy, man. You throw parties at his house. Hey, man, you know, we just actually was just over at Booze's house for his. For karaoke. Yeah, for karaoke. Shout out to Booze. Who do that Booze do karaoke at his house? You imagine that. I wish I would go over. I can't even imagine him singing, I Will Always Love You. Yeah. He sung Jodicy. Yeah, he came out there doing Jodicy. Sung Jodicy. He went all in. He was dressed up. He had a costume. He went, he was like, he went all in, brother. Salute to Booze. Appreciate you having us out there. That's what's up, man. And then he cussed me out because he said I ain't been bringing him enough money lately. Booze. Booze, love and money, man. Yeah, you do. You ain't even had that money with Booze. Come on now. Come on now. How did you even force your relationship, man? Man, just just. Your relationships is your forte. Just good business. You know what I'm saying? Being a man of your word, doing what you say you're going to do. I'm not going to hit nobody's line unless I got some value. I'm definitely not a person that's going to try to take from a situation. Any room I walk into, I want to make sure that I'm an asset, not a liability. So whenever I walk into some space, I always try to look at what's missing and how I can fill in the gap, how I can fill in the white space. That's right. And so in Booze's situation, he had some artists that wanted to move around. And I had been doing tours my whole career. And so I was like, well, man, I'll take your artists on tour. And hopefully whatever artists I find that I feel is worthy of that bad-ass stamp, I'll bring them back to you. Man, and we've been having an adult business relationship for quite some time. Man, out of the six guys I brought him, he's offered four of them situations. So Booze is always definitely looking out for the independence. And it's a match made in heaven. It's definitely a good business relationship. Because I go find the talent. And Booze, love the talent that I find. So yeah, man, shouts out boo, man. Shouts out boo. That's my boy. Y'all know what time it is, baby. New Jackthriller City Foodie Call. When the ladies is taking you out, and they have no intentions. Again, you're none and whatnot. That's what you call a foodie call. And today, bringing our meal, we brought the homeboy right on back, Chef Torres Foodie Call, hosted by Gigi McGuire, Gigi. Man, show me the money. It's your girl, Gigi McGuire. Miss, show me the money. And we have here for this foodie call with Chef Torres say this amazing dish that it smells so good. I just want to like lick it. Which oh, okay. Well, let me tell you what it's called. Jerk chicken. Jerk. Hey, girl. Okay. It's the jerk chicken. For you. New and improved. So this is giving, to me, this is giving tease, right? So on this foodie call, I am not, of course, going to give him any, but I'm going to tease him with a little foreplay, right? The sauce looks very lickable. The, even though it's chopped in half, the egg roll itself is very much giving, you know, that shape that we all know it, you know. It's enough shaft on that egg roll. Not really, but you know, if we line them up together, we can make it work. No, no. The sauce and the smell and everything is very, let's say, it's, yeah, it's very tantalizing. Now he ain't going to hit it, but I'm going to make him think that he bought two with this one. And if it tastes as good as it looks, he might even actually get a jerk, you know. What's going on? Yeah. What do I have to do? Yeah, man. I just need to taste it. Yeah. I want this one. All right. Chef Torres, what is that? What's in it? Like she said, you got some nice lickable sauces in there. You got some delectable, juicy jerk chicken, sauteed onions, sauteed bell peppers, and all the right cheeses to bring all the smokiness and flavor together. All right, that's what's up, man. It's flavors for me. I'm turning on, I'm turned on and turned off at the same time, Chef Torres. Don't do that no more, man. All right. Now listen, if y'all know, like I know, and y'all can see how much I'm enjoying this, y'all going to want to get on this man's top ASAP, OK? So let the people know where they can find you. Hop right on it. On Instagram, Bahamines and Chef Torres, T-E-R-E-S, not with a Z. Chef Torres, you going to catch a charge. This is Foodie Call. We'll see you next time with Gigi McGuire. Hey, talk to me about your co-host and everything, man. How do you guys meet each other and for this? Because y'all chemistry is like no other Batman, Robin. We met each other to shoot out, man. He got dumb, you know what I'm saying? He got the buck and I was like, you know what I'm saying? But I was like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, you know what I'm not, man. Man, being started out, just being, you know how some people come into a room, right? And they always want to get something from somebody. They always want to take from the energy. They want to take from the room. Bills was not that kind of person. Any situation he came in to, he wanted to give, you know what I'm saying? And that's what, when I was building my shows and my platform, my studio, that's what I look for. I'm looking for somebody, man. What kind of value are you gonna bring into this situation? I know what value I have, but what can you bring to it? And Bills was the type of brother that was just gonna, you know, kind of like, like mine is, you know, thinking like he was like, you know, how can I, you know, be a service or be of an asset? And so, you know, when we started, we started, you know, doing the media and the podcast and stuff. And I had to open, I was like, well, shoot, man, you know, rubbing solid, because I could teach you, I could teach you a good nigger how to be a podcast host. When I can't teach as a good podcast host, how to be a good nigger. Your mama had to teach you that, right? He can do this all day. Come on, man. So if you're solid, I can teach you a job, I can teach you a skill, I can teach, I can teach a man how to hold a camera, I can teach a man how to talk, they talk, you know what I'm saying? But are you solid? Are you a good person? Do I have to watch my back when I'm around you? And Bills, one of them people, I ain't gotta watch my back. He gonna watch it for me. That's how you got on. He's a super accommodating man. The way, we got five star treatment at your facility in your show last night. Everybody was so cool, so nice, man. You know, this completely amazing environment. Yo, Bills, what made you wanna be a part of this ugly money program? Honestly, I didn't really plan to even do any of this podcasting. It was just more like we chopped it up, like what you think about doing a podcast. And it was like, all right, bet less. Know what I mean? The long story short, it was a simple conversation. It was like, let's try something. We tried it and, you know what I mean? It was a good vibe, so we just kept going with it. You know what I mean? So I don't have no big, great plan of how it happened. It just kind of organically, just like, we did it. I don't know. Bills, when did you first realize, hey, this shit hot? We on, nigga. What was that moment where you like, man, this shit, yeah, where I go? Niggas got there. You know what, I ain't gonna lie to first, the first time we did a million views, I don't remember if it was TikTok or Instagram or one of them. That's when I started looking. I'm like, damn, I think, you know, we might, we might got something for real, for real. I ain't take nothing serious for Virginia. We just having fun. But when I seen a million views. Yeah, the girl said, yeah, the girl said, she wouldn't dare to go out and work in the McDonald's. Right, right. And we fired her ass up. Fired her up, and it went viral. As a matter of fact, it was TikTok. It was TikTok. And when I seen that, you know what I mean? I was like, damn, a million views. You know what I'm saying? On a clip on the show. So that right duck kind of made me feel like, yeah, let's not say I'm gonna take it serious because it's really doing something. I seen Corey Hogan talking about y'all making references and stuff, man. And I was like, God damn, he'll meet you home, man. Yeah, man. Shout out to Corey Hogan. Hey, when I saw that, somebody had sent it to me. Like, man, Corey Hogan, Corey Hogan over there. He talk about you on the show. And I was like, yeah. And I said, his impersonation of me was so accurate. He was like, man, it's a big dude, man. Can he be killing them hoes? He hit that motherfucker. Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh. Shout out to Corey. It's just dope to have people that I respect, you know what I'm saying? Respect my work, you know what I mean? It never gets old to see people that you admire, you respect, you've looked up to, to actually, you know, actually appreciate what you put in out. So you know what I'm saying? And it's moments like that to help keep you going. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, Jack Thriller, fuck all my shit, bro. And I'm in with Jack Thriller on this is 50, bro. Jack Thriller, fuck all my stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's a blessing when anybody that, you know, just really rocks with what we got going on with show. Bruh, every time I get in your presence, man, I'm impressed, like, thoroughly. When I first moved back here, you had the, I think it was the Ugly Money Fest. Yeah, Ugly Music Summit, yes, sir. Yeah, the Summit. Yes, sir. You got your own fucking Summit. Yeah. Like, goddamn, the Revoked Summit is some shit. Yes, sir. You took over the H-room walking line. Man, it was a bubble up in that motherfucking, like a goddamn tent and shit and people signing up and goddamn, paying money, hand over fist to beat. I don't know what you're talking about, little money. I ain't making no money. Oh, okay. Yeah, there were people in there that was trying to get down with this program. Yeah, and it was so many different, so many different activities to do and to be a part of for independent artists, man. So many different, got seminars. Yes, sir. Guest speakers and everything. Guest speakers got to learn the game they playing. You know, a lot of rappers just want to rap. They want to go in the studio. They want to stay in the studio all day and make a new song. They got a thousand songs, but they ain't nobody heard it. Yeah. But bro, like, you know, you got to understand the game that you playing. Like, if LeBron James, bro, can jump like a, you know, jump like a kangaroo and run like a deer. But if you don't know the rules and the rules of basketball, he not going to get past that court. Yeah. Double dribble, traveling. You know what I'm saying? You got to know the rules of the game you playing. And so, you know, with the Ugly Money Music Summit, I wanted to teach artists, hey, bro, this is how you win and actually bring in the people that's winning. And so, you know, we're on our seventh summer. We've been doing it for four years straight. And, you know, it's resulted in at least seven or eight deals being signed. You know, I'm extremely, you know, I'm extremely, I'm extremely proud of that. The fact that I get one of these young brothers out the streets that might have made a different choice. Bro, that's a big fact. What are some of the artists that you have seen or helped come out your summit that you helped put on? Man, you know, it's a crazy, crazy story. So artists, I know y'all know Fugiano. Fugiano used to come to my shows and it's an interesting story because I remember the first time he came, he lost like hell. He lost, you know, he ain't he ain't hold his head. He had no problem, no issue. He just went back to work. And I remember a year later, I was judging another show that he was performing at and I ended up picking him and he turns around, signs the deal, get signed a Gucci and so on and so forth. So it's just, it just goes to show like how dope, you know, a guy can be a little artist one day, but be a big artist the next day, you know what I'm saying? And so, yeah, man, that's that's why that's why I always try to treat the independence like majors. Because you just one song away, you just one piece of content away from being the next big thing. So, you know, I was always the guy that I felt like people picked me last for the team. I don't want to be the guy, I don't want to be the guy that's picking you last for the team. I want to be when you say my name like, man, ugly money Nietzsche gave me a shot. Ugly money Nietzsche was actually, you know, instrumental in my growth and my progress. So, you know, we've had a lot of people that have gone to success. Sleazy World Go used to be on my reviews. You know, he was on the XXL Freshman cover. Bre Triller recently had a big song. I'm the one who told it in the record was a hit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so, you know, when you see these artists that are that are trying to figure it out and if you can be a part of the story of success, you know, it's always, it's a humbling experience, man, to see them see them go up, go on and thrive. So, yeah, salute to all of them. And it's a, it's a ton of them, man. It's a ton of them. Do you feel like that's your talent? Like you just have a ear to know, like, what's like going to be good, like what's up next? Or do you feel like you just try to give people a chance? I think I think I think some of my talent is being able to provide a platform for talent to shine. You know, I'm, I'm gonna just set the stage. It's on, you know, once you get on that stage, you take over, you know, I can't make you hot. I can't make you, I can't make people like you. But what I can do is give you an opportunity when that light shines on you for you to turn up and make these folks and turn these folks into believers. You know what I'm saying? And that's something that, you know, we try to do, you know, every day at Ugly Money. You know what I'm saying? On the artist thing, cause we got different departments, but on our artist development part decide, you know, we just want to give the artist a chance and an opportunity to make that, to make that next step. You know what I'm saying? Now what you do with it is on you. You feel what I'm saying? Some people will take the opportunity and run with it and go. And some people will take the opportunity and sit there in the same spot and they'll be there the same year. I can't do nothing about that. But hey man, when I say I'm taking you to Boosie, I'm gonna take you to Boosie. And you gonna, we gonna sit there for some hours and he gonna play your songs and he gonna listen to you. And if he like you, he may offer you something. I took an artist in Money Bag Yo, same situation. And you can't really, that's hard to do to get these people's attention to the point of listening to new talent or undiscovered talent, you know, and that comes with relationships. You know, you can't pay for that. You can't pay Money Bag Yo to listen to that nigga music. No, you gotta have a relationship. They gotta, it's gotta be something that, you know, me and bag gotta be locked in a certain, you know, in a certain, in a certain respect level for what each of us does. So, you know, yeah, man, you know, as long as I'm able to, I will always try to open doors for the underdog cause I believe I was an underdog myself. Yo, yo, you know what time it is. That's right, Jack Beauty of the Week, man. Hosted by Gigi McGuire. Show me the honeys. That's right. Who's coming with me? Gigi, let's get it. It's your girl Gigi McGuire. Miss, show me the money. And we are here with this Jack Beauty of the Week. Honey, what's your name? It's Vatlana, I feel like. Oh, that's a lot. Oh, yeah, right. Say that again. It's Vatlana. Vatlana? I thought it was in French. It's some kind of language you're having in here. It's Russian. I am not Russian. You don't look Russian. I'm not. But you have a Russian name. Girl, my parents was watching the Russian Olympics. Oh, wow. That's interesting. My dad is Saudi Arabian in a retrain. My mom's Nicaraguan. Okay. It's giving international. It's giving United Nations. It's giving passport boys. It's giving hella flags and I'm here for it. No ribbons. Okay, all right. So, how old are you? I'm 24. 24. And it might be your zodiac sign. I'm a Leo. Come on, Leo. Leo, okay. I'm actually a Gemini. Oh, okay. Okay, it was okay. It's okay. I'm going to go ahead and give you the pass. I'm a May Gemini. We do good ones. Okay. Anyway, and what's your hometown? Miss United Nations. Jacksonville, Florida. Duvall. Yes. Murder Lab. Okay. We're going to get a little bit spicy for you, girl. You ready? Okay. I'm ready, girl. Okay. So, what is your sexual interest? Are you straight? I'm straight, yeah. No, I'm straight as fuck. Straight. HF. Straight like six o'clock. Yeah. Okay. And what are your thoughts on a 50-50 relationship? Are you splitting the rent in the bills with Bay? Honestly, I moved out when I was 16. So, I've always been super like independent. Honestly, I don't give a fuck because a nigga is not ever going to be able to take nothing from me. So, I like to be able to say that I can secure my own house. Like, a nigga can't feel like he could kick me out or can feel like he could take something from me. So, the answer is no. I mean, I'm not tripping. It is what it is. I'm not like, I don't really have, I guess, an opinion on that because like I said, I've always provided for myself and I've always been able to. So, it's like, if a nigga got it and he wants to share it, that's cool. No, I don't pay your bills, girl. Pay your own bills. I don't want to do it. Don't get it twisted. I'm not fucking with no bum. Damn. I'm just not requiring. I don't listen. I mean, I don't know. See, because that's a loaded question. No scrubs. Okay. What, how often would you fake an orgasm or do you fake orgasm? We're not faking it. No, we're not doing that. Have you ever faked it? Girl, maybe like with my first boyfriend because I felt bad. I think he just didn't know what he was doing. And I think it was like really just kind of to make sure that he didn't. His ego. I don't want to fuck up his ego, you know, but I was young and I don't do that no more because if you just don't got it, you just don't got it. So at the end when he say, baby, how many times did you come? You're saying zero. I'm just going to act like I've been asleep the whole time. I might not even respond. I already fell asleep. That's illegal. Okay. And where can the people find you, honey? Oh, Nana tattoo. Oh, oh, you and they and they tattoo on Instagram. That's Lana. I'm a tattoo artist. And right now I'm actually doing I'm competing to be on ink magazine. So I got a little special going on on my page. Come get a little tattoo. So yeah. I'm coming girl. Vote for me. Y'all vote for me. Come get a little $25 tattoo. Thank you. Thank you. It's Jack's beauty week. What other services do ugly money offer currently? Oh, man, I mean management. We got management packages. Of course media, you know, I'm saying YouTube promotion. You know, I kind of figured out this YouTube thing. My YouTube went from 5,000 subscribers to 100,000 subscribers in three months. So figured that out. So, you know, when guys want to make the YouTube go up and everything kind of got that. So, you know, marketing media, everything that's around the entertainment industry and trying to move up to the next level, we got our hands in some shape or some shape or fashion, whether it's, you know, play listing, whether it's shows. We do, we do two tours a year. We tour over 30 cities on two tours a year. So, you know, we do two summits and two tours. So whatever they want, if they want a tour, I call it rapid dope, Jack. Anything a rapper need. I got it. It's a rapid dope. I got all the rapid dope, any rapid dope, any kind of rapid dope. They want shows, tours, interviews, features, whatever, studio time, perform. I got it. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, I got the Adderalls, Perkins to hit some mollies. Everything a rapper need. I got it. Not the mollies though. Is it just for rappers though? Cause I, you know, you got the podcast. You do it for like people that's just trying to get into like, you know, that kind of status period, like people doing podcasts. I'm trying to figure out how to get it. I'm trying to see my way in. She's in the future. She's in 2024. So it's interesting that you say that we're actually launching podcasts you know, in 2024, the same things that we were able to do for independent artists, we're going to do for media, personalities, podcasters and content creators because this space is still growing and there really isn't a lot of blueprint. We really just be shooting in the dark with these things. You know what I'm saying? And it's always dope to have somebody to kind of lead your way like, Oh, I kind of blaze this path. You know, you don't got to go exactly my way, but I'm going to tell you what worked for me and what didn't. So, you know, in 2024, that's one of the biggest, one of our you know, just things that we're working on this is podcast. You were actually helping people produce their podcast. We're giving people game on how to monetize their podcast, how to get some money out here, how to get some sponsors out here, how to get them views up, how to get those numbers up because you know, when we crack that mic, that's the fun part. Then the work happens. It's like, Oh man, we spent three hours on this show and then nobody watch it. And I've been there. You know, my first podcast did 52 views. It was in my living room. Me and such and such was, it was two iPhones and a GoPro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was some hood shit. Okay. But you know, and it did 52 views. And of course, you know, your first episode, you thinking it's going to hit a million. I'm going to be viral. No, I don't. I usually don't do that. Right. But you know, it took me four years just to get to the point of being able to three to four years to get to the point of just monetizing my. And so if I can show, if I can tell somebody in 30 minutes what took me three years and why not share that share that knowledge. And so we had 2024. We are really stepping into that educational side of the space of, you know, content creation media podcast. You definitely 100% bro. Now let's go. Let's talk about his name because I'm curious about ugly money. What? What is ugly money? Why not pretty money? No, man. Why not gorgeous money? Gorgeous money. Why not handsome money? Beautiful money. Yeah. Pretty money podcast every Saturday. Ugly, ugly, ugly money is the process of success because it's ugly. It's the ups, the downs, the highs and the lows, everything between your first dollar and your first million, that's ugly money. Right. And I feel that, you know, them fives, them tens, because before you get them hundreds and them thousands and the millions, first you got to find out how to make a dollar. And so my career was a full of ups and downs, highs and lows, stopping, falling down, getting back up, brushing the dirt off my, you know, and getting, you know, and continuing on. And so that's why I kind of came with the ugly money moniker because of the fact that that's really how my career had been. Really? You know, I was rebranding from my rap name to another, you know, to another, another name. And, you know, I felt that my career has been a roller coaster ride up, down, down, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of people don't see what's behind success or where a person had to go through to get to success. They think it's overnight. No, you heard about it overnight. Brother had been in there and been in the trenches for four, five years, you know, trying to figure it out. But, you know, by the time he got that light shining that opportunity came, he was, he was ready for it. And that situation with me, you know, I've been in podcast darkness for three years on nobody really watching it. But, you know, when I had an opportunity to get a light shine on me, I was ready to go and I hit the gas and I ain't look back. Respect. 100%, man. Yo, so do you ever, you get so much music thrown at you all that. Do you get tired of listening to music or is it like, you know what? I got a good attitude every time you, and you can't wait to hear what the next song is. I wouldn't say I get tired of it because I love to do this. This is what I love to do. If I had a job, right? Okay. If I worked at the Waffaha. Don't blow no smoke up my ass now. If I worked at the Waffaha. Okay. And I got off at five o'clock. Yeah. At five, 15, you know what I would do with my time? Go do this shit I'm doing. Okay. And so, you know, I just believe that, you know, we should all, you know, make our jobs what we love to do anyway. You know what I'm saying? So when you really love what you do, it don't feel like, I go to work and have fun, bro. I sit there and talk shit with my homeboys, listen to hard ass records and goddamn talk about the folks, you know, just basically have a barbershop conversation. And so it's a, it's, it's fun. You know what I mean? I get paid to have a good time. And so when it comes to the musical in, you know, do I get tired? Yeah. And sometimes when the music bad and that shit suck, you just, you get tired of having to tell people something that somebody else should have told them like, bro, nobody told you that this record was terrible. Nobody told you that you could not rap on the beat. The fact that you can't even hear your vocals over your beat. Nobody told you that. So I got to be the first. So I got to be the bad guy to tell you that this shit is dumps the juice. So that gets tiring, but then the next record be hard. So you write back at it. So, you know, when I hear good music and I, you know, and I come across artists that are hungry and are talented, you know, that motivates me to keep going for sure. Got you. Got you. Early Money. What's the, what's the, what is a nice way to let somebody down and say, hey, this ain't for you. You, you, I don't think you a rapper, my boy. It's not your calling. Um, you know, have you ever done that? Yeah, I do all the time. Um, let's say Jack Thriller is trying to be a rapper. Yes. And it's terrible. And I say, and I'm listening to the song and it just, it just not going away. It's going out. You know, I say, you know, brother, um, you know, everybody gets paid before the rapper does. The manager gets paid. The road manager gets paid. You know, Eric, the CEO, there's a ton of things that you can do in the music industry besides being an artist. The producer gets paid. The engineers, everybody gets paid before the rappers, the last person to get paid. Why don't you go get paid first? That's what I tell you. Go get, go get paid first, bro. Because, you know, you don't, you don't want to get paid last. And that's the nice way of telling you that your shit sucked. Man, go be a manager or something, go be a CEO, put your money behind somebody that got some talent. And you're like, listen, I'm not here to deter nobody's dreams. Because, you know, at the end of the day, you know, music is subjective or whatever. But you know, if, if, if people aren't gravitating to it, this may not be your thing. Go try something else. You may be great. I was, that was me. I was a rapper. They gravitated to it. I got to the point where I got signed. But at the same time, it wasn't like, yeah, I want to play that new. No, it wasn't what was for me. But as soon as I got them, put a mic on my hand and push a button the whole world. Listen. What shit? Nigga, all I had to do was take the beat off. God damn it. I'm still rapping. But it's just a different word. So, you know, sometimes, you know, people just got to listen to what the universe is telling you, man. Some you're calling and your passion may be different. Right. You know, we had, we have a passion. I had a passion to be a rapper. But my calling was to talk to people. My calling was to talk to the masses because when I open my mouth for some reason, they listen. I can't explain it. I don't know why this having this interview. I ain't really got no script in my head of what I'm going to say. Man, that's God talking. You know what I'm saying? And so, but my passion was music. Well, how can I use my calling to help my passion? I think that's what people should start doing. We'll start. What was your rap name? P Nice. P Nice. So, we go to Apple Music or Spotify right now. Search up P Nice. We're going to get some old money. I pray now. I pray I got it all deleted. You don't got nothing? I pray now. No, it's a song with me and Young Doff up there. Okay. Yeah. Me and Young Doff did a record called Roll On. Long Live Young Doff. But, you know, we did a song because I was signed to A-Ball and MJG. Yeah. So, you know, that Memphis connection was always, was always crazy with me. But no man, you know, I feel like I retired from music. Right. I didn't quit because I had did one. I had some success. I got to the point where I got myself signed. I had got some paid shows. I had made some money. I just figured out it was my time to depart and do and try some other things. You know what I'm saying? And I felt that I would be better. I would be a better coach than continue to try to be a player. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, I felt like Steve Kerr. Whereas like Steve Kerr was a dope player. But that dude's one the hell of a coach. Hell of a coach. You feel what I'm saying? You got the rings up. Yep. And so when I switched from being a player to a player, I started, you know, I started, uh, I started seeing a lot more success. Primarily because of the fact that P. Nice as an artist was a selfish individual. A lot of artists have to be selfish. Play my music. Check me out. Share. Like it. Comment. You always need something as an artist. You want people to, as Nietzsche, how can I help you reach your dream? What can I do for you? How can I help your podcast go up? How can we make sure that your dance is the next TikTok craze? How can we make sure that we monetize New Jack Thriller, you know, Jack Thriller City so we can, you know, hit, you know, two, three commas this year. And so ugly money is a life of service where I actually am here to help other people. And when you provide services, of course, you know, income comes in. Hey, I wanted to ask you that too. So I know, um, I'll be watching your live reviews where, man, you get dozens of people sending their shit in by the minute. And I know how much I'll charge too. What's the most you ever made in a day off with your live reviews of just independent artists sending you your money? Oh, man, um, about half of what Jack make on this goddamn show. Yeah. Yeah. About half of what Jack make. God damn it, I make about half of what Jack make. You know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to keep up with Jack. He's trying to burn it down, but you a bad motherfucker, man. You a bad motherfucker, man. Hey, man, those, um, I look forward to those rants that you do and everything. And it seemed like they always coming from, like you said, um, a very personal situation. When you talking about these artists and like when you was just talking about your plight being an artist and everything. And you know, with the complaining and all that shit, selling soft store support me. Don't nobody support me for that. Yeah. You got to support yourself first. You got to get somebody something to support. Right. You know what I mean? Who want to get in a car that can't work? The car ain't going. The car can't move. Ain't no engine in the car. The car went, went, went nowhere. Who want to jump in that car with you? N***a, you ain't going nowhere. N***a, get that car moving. N***a, we want to catch a ride with you after that. You know what I'm saying? I think it's sometimes it got to start with us. It got to start, you know, as an artist, you need some fans. You need some fans. You need some fans. You need some emotion first. You need some fans. You need some people that's liking this shit before you got them go, you talking about you need people. No, you can handle your whole rap career by yourself right now because it ain't much of a career. And then when you get to the point where the cars and the inquiries are coming in so much that you can't handle it all yourself, then go get the, yeah, then you go get the manager or whatever. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I just think that a lot of times you got to double down on you, bet on you. You never lose when you bet on you. All you got to do is believe in what you got going on, stand on it and be consistent each and every day living whatever your purpose is and eventually you're going to end up somewhere. You never lose until you quit. So, just don't quit. Just keep going. You're going, you put one foot in front of the other. Now, you may not go exactly where you thought you would go, but you're going to get somewhere. Now, when I started this whole entertainment 2.0. No. I'm more like Joe Button. 2.0. You know what I'm saying? So, I didn't end up exactly where I thought I was going to end up, but I ended up somewhere, you know, it's a blessing. So, when you tell your parents that you want to rap, what do they say to you? When I used to, when my daddy used to, my daddy used to hate my music. I used to hate my music. You know, I actually just moved my dad down in Atlanta with me two months ago. Okay. Down here in Atlanta, as kids, I would skip school to, you know, my dad would go to work and we act like we go to school and as soon as he leave, we come back to the house and be recording. Of course, he come home on lunch and goddamn cuss us all out. Yeah, he didn't like it too much, but when he saw how passionate I was about it and I was not stopping, you know, after a year of your son just sweating in this room every day, making noise, as a father, you know, he was extremely supportive because at the end of the day, he bought me a computer to record at, he bought me a keyboard to make beats, so they must have believed in me because once I showed passion in it myself, they definitely got behind me for sure. You had a good childhood to sound like. Yeah, man, you come home a great home. Yeah, I did. I definitely did. I can't cap like the rest of these rappers on these interviews or came from the trenches. The lights was all broken. I have all that going on, bro. You know what I mean? My dad was in the military. My mom, you know what I'm saying, was a cell Mary Kay Cosmetics. She was us. And my daddy always had a hustle about him. So he was always doing odds and end jobs. And you know, daddy was just every time he get over there, what you got going on now? I'm about to take this trailer over here, take this car over here and take it in. Got to spend his hustle money. You know what I'm saying? So I think I got that hustle mentality, that entrepreneurial spirit from my father for sure. But when the last time you had a job? When I got out of the army in 2010, February 10th, 2010 was the last time I had a your job with the army. Yeah, I was in the military. Okay. I went to Iraq with the second infantry division. That sucked. But you know, I told myself then I said, man, God, if I had a deal with God, if I could survive this war, I won't complain and I will go as hard as I can after my dream. And I never stopped after that. Because I was supposed to die. How did war change you? My brother went to the same war. War is war. War is, it sucks. Every day you got somebody trying to keep. And you know, the thing about Iraq because I was in Iraq, it sucked about it was the day that I got there, they were shooting and killing. The day I left, they were shooting and killing. They were shooting and killing. They were shooting and killing. They were shooting and killing. They were shooting and killing. They were shooting and killing. That's when we get in their way. I'm like, what is we here for again? And you hear conspiracy theories like now we really hear about some oil or whatever, you know? Not to get too political but I will say that freedom is not free. We are able to live in this country as of fellow soldiers, you know, in that war, and you know, we should all definitely salute our service of men and women, because freedom ain't free. We're able to keep these lights on and live free and walk around and, you know, and stay out past 11 o'clock because somebody over there popping off for us, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I may not be in a grudge with a lot of the political people up top, but I'm definitely in full support of soldiers and troops. So was it your decision to go to the army or was it like your dad kind of wanted you to do it? Um, my daddy, you see, I had a real daddy, daddy, right? I had a daddy. James Evans. Yeah, yeah, I had a real daddy. My daddy told me, he said, thank you, brother, appreciate it. My daddy told me, he said, hey son, he said, you can go to college, you can go to the military, or you can go to jail, but you can get the hell out of here. You picked. When I tried college, I got kicked out of college and said, well, you only got two choices. I would be all that I could be. Feel like going to jail. But when my dad, you know, when my daddy was basically, but I thank him for it today because it made me strong. It made me independent. It made me go figure out my own problems and issues or whatever, because I think that all young men should go through a little something. You should. Yeah, we need to be a little tough. We need to be a little strong. That makes strong men, you know what I'm saying? You got to let them fall on the brush, you know, get your knee up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Fall down a couple of times. You don't want to be no punk. You don't want to be no sister. So my daddy straight up told me, like, hey, man, you got to figure something out, but you're going to get the hell on out of here. And really, that was his way of pushing me towards greatness. That was his way. I truly believe that I am the man I am today because of my father and the values that he instilled in me, you know what I'm saying? And I still, I still hold him to this day. So when, you know, he got to a point where he was getting older and he had had a couple of strokes, you know, they were talking about maybe putting them in the home like, oh hell no, it's my turn to, it's my turn to return the favor. Get in there. Come on, you coming to the left. Get in there. Yeah, you're going to be on the podcast. Fuck around with me. And so, you know, went up, went up to, flew up to Virginia. We sold the house. I packed them up, brought them back down here. He been living with me for the past two months, man. He love it. He, you know, he always talking about getting some red bones for Georgia Peaches. He, he love, he love the show. Yeah. He love the show. Oh, you got them things on there, bro. Oh, man, my daddy love the show. You got me. I had Joe Smith wife in there. I had Joe Smith wife in there. Where you find her? Man, listen. We had interviewed Joe Smith wife, man. Joe Smith wife over there messing with my dad. I said, all right now, all right, ma'am, god damn it. That ain't the nigga you want to play with, god damn it. Because he got something for you. Holy cow. That nigga got something for you. Bro, where did you find her? Man, you know, she living in Atlanta. I don't know that. Yeah, she living in Atlanta, man. We, um, I saw her on one of my, I shot her on my boy a purple shell. I saw him on one of my partner shows and I was like, bro, you got to connect me. I need to talk to her ASAP. And, you know, I had, we had just talked about her on Triggler. You know, I just pushed the button about that shit. And, um, so I reached out. We got in contact with her. She's like, yeah, I love to come on the show. You know, be nice to me though. And I like, I was like, well, let's say, I say, you want to come on the debate show because I was trying to get on Triggler. She's like, no, we can do an interview. I'm like, okay. So when I did the interview, everybody was calling for blood. They wanted me to, they like, bruh, push the button on the file. I'm like, it's an interview. My journalism, it's a, I'm supposed to ask questions. So I didn't get the chance to. To light up. I didn't get a chance to light up because it was the interview. You know what I'm saying? I want to make sure that I'm doing what I say I want to do. But she did say that she coming on Triggler. Oh, okay. That button was itching. It was itching, bruh. No, no, no. If she ever comes on Triggler, the button going to be got them off. Yeah. The button going to be ready. So what's trigger alert? That that's when you have your like woman, man debate. Yeah. We talk about relationships, life, love and relationships. You know what I'm saying? You know, I would love to have your fine ass on them. Yeah. You should come on the show. You need to come on the show. You look like my second baby mama, the expensive one. $2,500 a month. What a damn five-year-old need $2,500 a month for a month. I love to have you on them. I can. I can. We'd have a great time. Okay. We have a great time. I love it. I love it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Good times, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We have fun on that show, man. Yeah, you're going to have a really good time, man. The drinks is flowing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The music is nice. I'm going to just slip away for you to slip up and say something stupid. Yeah. I would never do that. No, I'm a girl. You know what though? I will say this. A lot of times the women have great points. And you know, I let them pop their shit. I'm like, ain't that show true? Baby, live it. You know what I'm saying? I just may disagree. My show is not to... I don't bash women. I really... It's really more of a comedy. I don't... We don't bash women. We just hold women accountable for their shit. It's just like, hey, baby, you're not going to sit here and tell me that Jada Pinkett Smith is not the Michael Jordan of toxic women. She is the most toxic... I mean, she is LeBron James of toxicity. The things that she's done to Will Smith and the demascinalization and how she makes a public mockery of him is an abomination of masculine energy. And so the girls might be like, well, you know, he did it. Nah. I'm going to just... I'm going to just stand on. I ain't man. I'm just pro... I'm pro black man. But I'm also pro love. I'm also pro black couple. You know what I'm saying? I want more of us to... I want more families. I want more two parents. Because I came from a two-parent household. And I know how dope it is to be able to... When mama tell... When daddy tell you to go ask mama. You know what I'm saying? Now everybody don't get to do that. Now I got to do that. And I know how it felt to be like my daddy in the hell. No, don't do it. Mama. I get the honey boy out the goddamn... I get the honey boy out the cabinet. Go on get it son. Then I get it. He my daddy by... Mama said I can have it. Turd. Now that's they problem. I believe I... You know, I would love for more black brothers and brothers, you know what I'm saying? To be able to have that. And at the same time, black men in general, we need black men to raise us to become strong black men. Yeah. And so that's what my show is really about. That's the bigger meaning of it is the fact of men. Let's put the black father back in the picture and let's not alienate him. Let's not water him down. And let's not dilute him or disassociate him. You know, I understand queens that you can go get your money in 2023. Black women are doing an amazing job. An amazing job. They are killing it. But let's not forget. Tyrone. You don't want to, God damn, replace Tyrone with Joe Byron. Okay? Because a lot of times, the issue I have is these women will get... Certain ones will get Section 8 food stamps, WIC, Medicare, Medicaid or whatever Medicaid. And they say, oh, I'm independent. I don't need no nigger. Yeah. You don't need no nigger because you got a white boyfriend named Joe Byron. The president, you are living off the government. So you were sitting there saying that you're independent and now you want to sit there and shit on the black man because of the fact that the matter is that, you know, the man gave you some free food. But Tyrone over here was offering the same house, the same protection, the provisions. He was paying the bills. He was bringing home the bacon. But if Tyrone asks you, I had a long day at work, baby. Can you give me some peace and quiet? Oh, I ain't doing that. But God damn it. Them folk coming this motherfucker, make sure your damn house clean or whatever, they're going to kick your black ass out. Guess what you're going to do? You're going to get up and go clean the house. And so, you know, I just want to get back to men and women, you know, loving each other, respecting each other and just, you know, everybody playing a position so we can both succeed. 100 percent, man. I'd appreciate that, my boy. That's awesome. What do you think is the problem in black households now? Why do you think we don't see two parent households in the black community anymore? Mama went, she left, you know, mama went outside and got her some money. And when mama went and got her some money, she thought that she was daddy. And just because mama went and got her some money doesn't mean that daddy is not useful. You know, the fact that you got to understand nowadays, like a woman like yourself, you can easily say, you know what, I am going to go on this website with my phone, sign up for it, take myself, my camera phone or my cell phone out, record myself doing, God knows what, and tell people there's $9.99 for you to come watch it. And you can make millions. It's going to be hard for me to compete with that. In order, I had to make my first million, it took me 40 years to make my first million. The fact that you were born gorgeous, you can make a million in a year if you want it to. You know what I'm saying? And so when women get to the point of, I love the fact that women are strong that they can provide for themselves. But you just don't, just because you can provide for yourself doesn't mean that this man holds less value. Just because you can make your money and be an adult and pay your bills does not mean that this man cannot bring a whole another, you know, different type of lifestyle to you. And so, you know, people get Hollywood when they get some money. And then the internet, that's really what happened. Because mama and daddy used to have to work out their problems because mama, all the men she saw was daddy and the niggas at work. Right? So that's her pool of people to choose from. Well, shitty. Still ain't better than Tyrone. So I, you know, and so they work out their problems. Now, well mama got an Instagram and she got 150,000 followers. That's 150,000 big. That's in her message requests that she can choose one. And as soon as Tyrone may come in, guess what she's going to do? I don't got to deal with this. I got a ton of niggas that I can go see. And what does she do? She throw that man away and she had that kid with and she leave him for whatever infraction that she feel that she left him for. And she go get another nigga that's willing to lie to her. And she, then the black family is broken up. Then the household is, you know, it's split. It's separated. Social media really plays a big part. It really a negative effect because you can, you can literally go, you can go, you can go, you can go get attention from anyone at any time. All you got to do is post the pictures, click a button. All right, I got 5,000 niggas to choose from today. Which one I'm going to, who paying for my goddamn juice and crab? But you know, back in the day, you had with your little work boo and got them Tyrone. And so, you know, I just think that social media just gives certain women a false sense of availability as a man, because maybe any man, any woman can get some dick. But are you going to get a man that's going to protect you, provide you, before you build with you, grow with you, invest with you, you know what I'm saying, raise them kids with you. No, niggas going to come for that pussy. But is he going to stay for that family? And a lot of, a lot of these women misconstrue the guy that's coming for pussy for the man that's staying for the family. I want us to get back to the, the man that's staying for us. If I'm over here throwing, throwing the football outside with your son and know he can't catch and I'm still throwing that motherfucker to get me some pussy. You know what I'm saying? He just over here for the ride baby. I'm over here for the long haul. And I think that sometimes we are too quick to just quit on each other because we all feel that we got so many options because of this app on this phone when we could have really worked that out. That's all I'm saying. You think women are better divorced as a father by women? And we ain't leaving these women. They leaving asses. Yeah, but that's only because we were talking about this before. You know, we were talking about this before. Men are less confrontational. Men are not, there can be a problem in a relationship and a man is not going to be the one to communicate that first and be like, hey, we got a problem. Let's fix it. The woman is the one doing that. And after you've done it about 10 times and then again doing nothing. Yeah, you're going to stand there marriage and just have a mistress or whatever. Women are just going to file for divorce. They're like, okay, nigga, I'm leaving you. But a nigga will really stand in a relationship knowing that it ain't working out, but he just don't want to communicate. He don't want to fix shit. But then when she leave, he flabbergasted. What the fuck do you expect? But we don't give up on you. You got to understand one thing. They give up in different ways though. They might not give up in a way that they file for divorce, but they don't want you to work. There you go. That's what we were talking about last night. So let me ask you something. I like that drop. Listen. I might need a button real quick. Yeah, that's a good drop. One thing about it is that we have we have to explain to women sometimes that, you know what I'm saying? Your man should be a provider and be able to protect and take care of you. But at the same time you were grown adult. So certain responsibilities as far as bills, these are just adult things. There's so many women that come on the show and get them screwed. Like, oh, if he's not, you know, taking care of all my bills, then he really don't rock with me. Well, when it all actually as an adult, it's certain things you're just going to have to handle. You know what I'm saying? It's no way around being adult, especially if you have kids. So, you know, feeling that just because a man won't financially, like you say, pay all the bills. That don't mean he don't really rock with you. Marriage, that things are more than likely going to fall on the husband. Yeah. But we're not married right now. Well, yeah, yeah. So when you get to that level, then you can get wife privileges. But I just met you last week at what you call it. No, I say that all the time. I don't know. You can't expect wife privileges from girlfriends and you can expect husband from a boyfriend. So, ain't no paying your bills and ain't no I'm having your kids. That is for marriage specifically. But that's what I'm saying. Like when you get married, yeah, the husband should be paying all the bills. I'm more than likely that's how it's going to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah. So, you know, it just be a lot of little ways that women just get fed up but men just don't fall for divorce. They'll just stick with the shit. Well, I mean, is that wrong? Is that wrong that I didn't give up on you? You got to understand one thing. The fact, if I get to, if I get to the point of marrying you because men, we love unconditionally. That's a fact. Yes. I could look. Who said that? Who said that? We talked about it from your show. Remember? Facts. If you worked at Waffle House. Facts. If you worked at Czechos, Preach. I would love you the same way. You feel what I'm saying? I could be riding in the drive-thru in my Bentley and your finances in the damn drive-thru and I'll pull you up out of that drive-thru and take you home with me. That's very true, but there's a different, okay. You got to love a woman unconditionally regardless of money or her status because that's not her position. Yeah, I don't care what you got, I don't care what you got going on. If she ugly in fact, though, that's not unconditional love. Facts to you, I might find her attractive if you're calling her ugly in fact. If I'm looking at her, I'm like, damn, she look good right now, so that's a personal opinion. Lizzo can get it, bro. That's a personal opinion. What she talking about, we're almost stuck. Almost stuck. Get it now. Lizzo got one time. Oprah got one time forever. Bro, I'm, I don't mean, Jack, you get a night with Oprah. Yeah. Are you pulling up? No, I ain't pulling up. Oh, man. I'll be trying to tell you. I'll be telling you, bro. Oh, man. Hey, bro, Oprah got one time, bro, to come around here. I'm shooting up the goosebumps. I'm nothing in you. You weren't shooting up the goosebumps I don't know what's there I don't know What is this What's going down That's going down Your body like, Oh, Now you can. I'll try to tell you, You know what I'm saying? In the morning. In fact. Is that true? We stick by it. Okay. Yeah, if I if I if I if if you leave me because I fell off on some money, you know, I lose my job You're a woman to leave me quicker. Didn't then I leave hooker. She got fat for sure And it's just the fact that matter is yeah I do understand what you're saying as far as the woman being frustrated, but you don't think we frustrated too You don't think we you think we like the fact that your ass me snoring and drooling on You think we we don't really like it and listen we don't like liver and onions We just eat it because you keep on making it. You feel I'm saying a lot of things that we have that are frustrating too But at the end of the day, you know, we know that we put up with it because we understand it I love this woman unconditioned. I actually love the human being that she is in her existence and you know what for me to walk to go to this point of walking down this aisle and Basically given her half of everything I am not just about to walk out on my on my marriage just because I'm pissed off about something this month Because we're gonna figure it out eventually I think a lot of times women just say fuck this I'm dipping and they think it's something better out there and they find out wrong They find out it ain't nothing better. They find out. You know what I probably should have stayed with him Because what's out here is a bunch of dick for me But now you can't come back Now you can't come back you need to stay where you were I believe like I would say more than half more than half women and they're gonna be getting mad at me about this Your first baby daddy probably the best man you ever gonna find more than half and the first husband is definitely the best man He's probably ever had yeah, why because that's when you're that's that's when you're at your most valuable You're sexier when you had no kids that stomach on flat flat their booty on fat fat And that koochie got bigger So by the time you get the other time you get the two and three to put a whole bunch of miles on it I mean I'm extra 30 40 pounds You know sad bags under your eyes from dealing with that stress and everything So, you know a lot of times women just are so quick to just pull out of something when he just made Why don't you just try to stay down as long as you possibly can yeah I believe and that's why I'm so cautious about getting in relationships because I am going to exhaust every Resource in every aspect before I say quick because that way when I finally walk out this door I'm like they ain't nothing that chick got that I ever want I don't try therapy with them with the couples counseling with them Pray to pass of them prayed and every they got them and if this chick is still got them a demon and get them in it We ain't the right for each other so when I walk away and I cut them ties I don't ever have to spend the block. No, I'm not about to stop by the club or whatever on some sneaky link No, we can't go have tea or lunch in them. No, I'm gonna move forward You know I'm saying so I just think women quit on us way quicker than we quit on y'all Run out on the family conscious mother-father think about it like What are the main reasons why why why why divorce is happening? financial money or infidelity Data transactional dating. That's the problem. So a lot of that shit is connected to that So if it's me Yeah, so but if me and you get together right and they and when we when we were getting married today one I have a job. I'm stable right and I'm paying my bills as a husband What the hell was you doing with your money for them for ten years? We was married saving it So how how the hell after ten years if I get laid off of this job and shit get tough And she'd get hard now you saying this ain't making no sense What were you doing with your money over these ten years when I've been paying these bills? You should have been opening businesses doing doing something You should have something to show for the protections and provisions that I have allotted to you over these past ten years Well, we should have some kind of cushioning To stop softening blow and a lot of women didn't do that No, your ass went on the girls trip you bought Chanel got now me You know I'm saying because your money your money now and he he gonna pay all the bills And now you ain't got nothing to fall back on so when that man falls oh Well, this ain't working cuz you know is I don't want to show I can struggle by myself But that's what I say. I never believed in that rainy day Because what what makes the sense of if a woman was with you and she never provided for you or done anything for you? Financially what's the sense of her waiting until you were broke down at your last have nothing going on now She's about to pop up and start doing it So I never I never understood that you if to me that rainy day shit is the most thing That annoys me the most on the show as soon as I hear that rainy day shit I'm triggered. I don't like it cuz the concept make make no sense to me But that's the point though cuz the husband is gonna provide and if the wife is wise with her money And she's stacking up for if something happens when you get laid off She has the money, but most of the time she just moves on to another provider She has enough money to move on to I don't need to deal with this shit Cuz I've been slaving at the goddamn factory This situation though, we're talking about a like it's normal situation That's very rare and in today's households with married couples The woman does work and pay bills it's very rare that a woman just never pays like a dime towards bills for 10 years That's not our average situation. So on that. No, it's not that show would like marriage like the woman does work And she does pay bills. Yeah, it's one of 23 women are killing it. Yeah, so that this is a very rare situation We talking about that doesn't just happen. I believe she should pay some bills though I don't think the brunovitz should be on her, but I love the wife I do like you consistently, you know taking care of something because it shows responsibility It shows that you know how to manage a checkbook it shows you know how to like do something with your money Yeah, so it's like I want you to do something you should know that before you marry her though I know me knowing that and you putting that in the action and making that materialized within the moment is see Cuz all of that sounds good when we talk about it But then when it's time for me to watch you really manage a checkbook and you just sitting here looking and you don't know What to do and you just have $1,500. Hey, where your money at with you? You got $13 in your account You don't know where your money went in it. It's like God damn Actions I don't care what a nigga telling me if you ain't showing me then I ain't believe in it And I got see stop before we get married You better shut up she got to come on the show for sure Anybody could tell you anything like somebody could be like oh, yeah, I'm good with money But then when you marry him they got a 500 credit score and they in debt So you like and you see red flags before they happen, you know like people act like they be If you would have told you you had a 500 credit score you wouldn't have married Gonna live well he's not gonna have a nice car. He's not going to be you there are things that are How we do all know yeah They end up going through a divorce and now they credit is like got them a 620 and they went from you know 850 to 620, but how you know heart everybody goes through hard times eventually, but at the end of the day What do you have to show for this 10 years of protections and provisions? That I gave you so when I fall if you can't cushion my blow then what did what were you doing? Gotta be You we're going to school or whatever I'm a penny bill for the past two years. I cool switch What we do if you don't if you don't have anything to show for the fact that I've been paying and taking care of you and your kids and Da-da-da for the past then you know what it we really got a reconsider. You gotta re-evaluate That's why I don't believe that a man should pay everything. I don't see me. I Don't believe that You know what I don't know it just depends on where you work If y'all married and y'all got kids then go ahead and make y'all separate money, but who watching the kids That's that's that's I work from home for the most part. Yeah, I don't I don't care We don't care. Yeah, we don't care about that. Do you just like how she said that 500 credit score baby Your credit score could be 300 and I'm a look at you be like, bro. You seen bra baby in the white pants and out man Tell her come here. We're not thinking about I wonder where she works. I wonder what she drives Credit score she has Men don't think like that we love literally Unconditional we kind of offer physical parents initially, but that's what I just we just take you as you come We'll build a woman up, but a woman ain't building a man up and that's a big Nothing wrong with that, but that's just life. I agree You don't get your fine-ass the fuck out of here right now, and you know what I think women can help Motor man to become a better version of himself Jesus. I'm not your mama The man only Jesus or his daddy could build a man. It's a support system Cuz as men we know how to build our Exactly, you know as a man we go through a lot of things out here Respectfully, you know saying so having that that support system plays a big part in the success in our life because if we Support it and and around the right people in the right type of energy We could do anything literally encouragement support goes a long way Yeah, you know, that's a that's a whole nother thing though. Yeah, what's the stint of your encouragement support money? What is it beginning? What is it in as a wife or as a girlfriend practice like humor me? No for real for as a wife I would do honestly, I I really believe that divorce only happens if he hit me or If he cheats Okay, I might if he cheats Sex with somebody else or if he hits me then then the marriage is okay hitting you I totally understand that man But cheating I think is the infidelity is the stupidest reason for a woman. Yeah, walk out of a door. Okay. Yeah. Respectfully Ma'am, you are about to leave this man that you have a family with children with Generational ties with because he went and got some pussy for another man That's gonna do the same thing all men don't cheat ma'am. I'm not saying all men are gonna cheat But I'm saying all men that you're gonna want the top There is no way in hell I See you there is no way in hell you are about to deal and go and marry a financially Hurt guy a financially unstable man. It's not about to happen. I can tell you you look expensive Okay, so the type of guys that you would even Facilitate or you would even be attracted to are going to have to be a certain financial caliber high value man Name me one rich man that you've ever met that don't cheat that hasn't had a problem with Monogamy, can you name one? Can you name one million? Who he cheated on he cheated on he cheated on his he cheated on his ex-wife with Sierra No matter she okay, so next exactly so he cheated he so You are basically walking away because I'm talking about the bigger picture. The bigger picture is the fact in the matter It's what are these ain't nobody finished you don't know motherfucker. Sierra. She is these kids need daddy You're willing to walk away from that about some dick and pussy He just stuck his dick in the Tiffany or whatever with a condom on that's that's like one That's like that brother going to the gym after work Okay, but is it worth working? Even though the physical act of sex is bad enough because now you put in me in danger No, I'm not even talking about Physical activists like that's dangerous enough because all the shit going around you bringing that back to me You could bring it like that's just It wasn't dangerous before you met me when you were sleeping with this guy and that guy it wasn't dangerous then It's only dangerous when a man sleeps with a woman when a woman is out here got them Hoeing and and fighting and fighting or whatever I don't get checked out. I'm like all my husband. We only have a sex with each other Because she was the one had a hot girl summer last year till she found me and I saved her now But but now but now it's dangerous because he want to stop by Tiffany house Me and Tiffany have a committed sad bitch and nigga relationship. We are committed to each other on the side You was fucking Tyrone. I'm not you Tyrone tie tie little Ron Ron Jack little playboy got them in the cameraman But it's not dangerous. It's dangerous when I do it, but it's cool when you do it But even besides that point though, it just shows lack of it just shows, you know, your character's like people You know that get me Discipline you you're not honest I have character discipline and all that cuz I'm paying all the bills that shows my type of Be as I got you that is your ego ma'am Nothing to do with the person that gets Ma'am if I am protecting and providing and taking care of my kids I'm talking or whatever. I don't want to interrupt you on your show. I'm sorry, but if I If I'm protecting and providing and taking care of everything that I'm supposed to take care of as a man, right? You're comfortable. I'm paying the bills. I'm taking care of the household. I'm a father to our kids I'm inspirational to you. I pour into you the way I'm supposed to pour into you What do you lose by me stopping by this young lady's house on Tuesday? If I don't bring you with no babies and I don't bring you no diseases home What do you lose by me stopping by her house? Other than the fact of the matter is that I lost the nut and I came home extremely calm You don't lose anything ma'am. That's ego your ego is in it because you feel that I got the best pussy in the world He's only had his pussy, but you know what God might not have wired on me in that way I'm not saying all men cheap, but I don't think I think that monogamy is taught it is beaten to men's head We naturally want to flower seeds with that. We naturally want to spread it around But some men have been taught that so you're telling a man to go against what his natural nature is Because of your ego Well, that's a reason to walk out your house. Everybody don't got to get married true And if you choose to get married, you know what marriage is and if you feel like yeah I don't have it in me. It's there one woman. Don't get married Why what what about what the fact the fact of the matter is that a man has sex with another woman makes him a bad person? It don't make him a bad person it makes you it makes me a man for marriage So I'm gonna exit the marriage. I'm gonna protect her in the provide Let me tell you something about protectors game providers when a man credit card come out his pocket It did get hard. You know why I could pay bills. I paid these bills. I paid this mortgage. You know what? I have the right to do what I please with it would then the same way I pull out the credit card I can pull out the dick you want to sit in this house and be kept and be protected and Provided for and go on vacations three or four times a year once the Disney World with the kids You want to do all of these things? I had to work 25 30 years of my life Just to be able to talk to a woman to have a woman is beautiful You do my house and you think that I've got to the point where I can have you and you think that When I finally get to the top of this mountain that I'm just gonna. Oh, I'm just gonna give it to you Nobody force you to give it to one person I've seen your old pictures from all from Facebook you were born looking like that queen You saw my work to get you know, I'm not saying that women don't have to work to get the place But at the same time like a man has to work his whole entire life just to be valuable enough to get you to say yes Okay, I've made it I've made it to now. I'm gonna reap the fruits of my label and that may be Tiffany house Come on now and if you able to steal by Tiffany, you know, I think it's an even swap no swindler I went to go see Tiffany. It's a fair trade. Come on. Your wife can cheat then. You should pay bills like me Come on Question answer right there come against they walk you can't do what a man does until you pay what a man pays, ma'am So if your wife Until it's time to pay for something till it's time to pull out that credit card and boss up Hey, this mortgage is five thousand dollars a month ma'am. Where my twenty-five hundred it so she pays half the bill She don't want to do that. What women want to do that? No, this mortgage is five thousand Even better Chicken she thin now see I don't know about it. No, that's a whole nother story. I'm talking about when the man I think I'm gonna be cool with that only if she playing them fifty-fifty man, but you know at some point in time We have you can't suck no dick I Say fifty-fifty and no cheating. That's just me I wouldn't want my wife paying all my shit and she cheating on me and I wouldn't want to do the same shit No, I feel that I feel that I'm right with that like you got to understand like this wife watching this shit Listen, I'm singing I can say it don't don't fellas do not incriminate yourself Let me he had to go fix the shit real with y'all Nobody else If we together and we and I'm into a point where we need to go 50-50 I shouldn't have enough money to cheat. I don't got time or money to cheat I need to be I need to be working on my crap when I was building myself up and you was with me shooting in the gym Then yeah, that's a whole nother story We're talking about know your ass staying this big ass out that I bought come on child Oh your ass driving that goddamn car that I came ready made Yeah, I'm already built In the gym in the gym. Oh, that's a whole different story for you down here at the bottom with me and we in the trenches We sleeping on the goddamn air mattress together and you don't roll with a nigga. Yeah, I better Yeah, I'll be a fuck nigga if I did that to you I ain't gonna kill but damn it if I'm already up and you saw me at 1145 on Friday like who got never he looked like a whole big player and teddy bear nigga Oh, yeah, baby. I'm already built this it come with different situations A lot of these women don't want to build with a man So you got to understand with a man that's built it come with different shit You can't drive a Nissan the same way you drive a Bentley Queen. I'm already a Bentley. Don't you buy no ugly truck? There I want to get triggered. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done man. I appreciate all that But you just popped your collar. I'm speaking to pop in your collar. You know what time it is, right? What's up? Hey school clothes time. Hey playboy. Yes. What you got on? 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