 Live from Santa Clara, in the heart of Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE, covering Juniper Nextwork 2016, brought to you by Juniper. Now, here are your hosts, John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Good, okay, we're live here in Silicon Valley, just always live, great Stu Miniman. Stu, we're kicking off Nextwork 2016 Juniper's annual conference, got a great lineup of guests. Juniper is going deep on the network, obviously they run the networks, but when you move traffic around, you can see the intrusions, a lot of security conversations, but ultimately, the network is where the action is. Yeah, John, and I love the kickoff this morning, they had the inspirational video, and they said, you know, we're looking for customers that want to push the laws of physics. Their customers don't go out to build networks. They want to build something that they can do amazing, and Juniper wants to do that in partnership. So, you know, of course we're going to dig in, we're going to be talking about, you know, we're going to talk routing, there's, you know, all these different components. You know, last year we talked about the disaggregation of hardware and software, but you know, here we're talking a lot about business outcomes. Reminded me a lot, John, of, you know, some of the IBM shows that we do. We had a, you know, a woman from the IBM Watson Group up on the panel this morning, but you know, some exciting stuff. As you and I know, we've been tracking for a long time, John, the network is where a lot of exciting stuff's happening, and it's great to see it. We're here live in Silicon Valley for the Nextwork 2016. I'm John Ford Stu Miniman, kicking off the event Stu. The security is where you're seeing malware, you're seeing the big enterprises, and you know, and we heard on the keynote from the Mandy and C founder, Kevin, and talking about how it's not just malware anymore, you've got governments and big companies that have assets that need to be protected. This is not the drive-by shootings, as he said, but this is about big companies who are prepared for security and being manhandled by these safe harbor of attacks out there. And this is a huge problem. How does the networking guy's going to solve this? Yeah, so John, it's not something that any one product can do on its own. You talked about it's both the network and the endpoints I need to have security and visibility into what's happening in the data center, wherever my data is, so a lot of times that's now in the cloud. So there's various pieces that we need to look at and you know, Juniper believes that they have a strong position to be able to help and drive some of these because it's no longer just the perimeter, but it's pervasive. Stu, I got to ask you the kind of the network question, we've been covering networking for years and we always talk about this, the fabric, I'm a network fabric, I'm the internet working, all this stuff going, now you got the cloud. The cloud is a forcing function that puts all the pressure back on the data centers because the data centers are moving to the cloud. You have an on-premise, you have cloud apps going on, it makes networking more peaked in terms of interest and you have more and more services. So this notion of fabric has been around for a decade. How does that evolve, Stu? I mean, how are people dealing with network services? You mentioned endpoint to core. Okay, we talked about that last year. What is network's philosophy here this year? What is Juniper talking about? Yes, so the great question, John, because it used to be, we talked about, is it overlays and underlays and all of these really gnarly protocols that we're talking about in the network and the premise that Rami, the CEO put out there, was one of, he called it digital cohesion and that's because we're going to have all these services and things are going to tie together. Reminds me a little bit of the conversation, John. We were having a VM world about inter-clouding. What Juniper talked about was what they called mega services, pulling all of these pieces together. So not just what Uber did is take a bunch of things that we knew and put it together in a service but you think about what's happening in education, in healthcare, the way to really disrupt things going forward is to be able to have visibility and pull data from lots of places, pull services from across there and if it's no longer just, I mean, I know you love to talk about kind of the in-memory database there, John, but a lot of these services are going to span not just between multiple nodes but between multiple data centers and therefore the weak link has often been the network. So we've got to have good networking. The reason we didn't have the XSPs back in the 90s failed, it was security and networking with the things that fall down. To make cloud successful, I need security and networking to work and that's why this is the hot space. You know, when theCUBE started in 2010, Stu, I said that Dave Vellante, storage is sexy, he said storage and then it looked what happened. Storage became super sexy, Dell just bought EMC and was getting flash memory. Now in 2016, networking is sexy again. You're seeing networking where the action is due. So is networking sexy now? But what are you talking about? This is the Plumbers Convention, right? I mean, come on, John. And it's just, you know, I always love. The storage people always looked at networks as you know, the pipes that travel their data. And the networking people. Well, STN, let's take SDN. SDN, as you mentioned before we came on camera, is pivoting to security because there's action there. There's a lot of action and networking right now. I'm pretty geeky, cool stuff going on. Transformational. So, Cubalone, Abner Germanow, who actually used to work here at Juniper, said SDN means still does nothing. So you know, the talk of SDN has really gone down over the last couple of years. Security is something. Well, what's VM we're using it for now? SDN, NSX, what? The number one use case that they're using NSX for is security, John. Bingo, so my point exactly, Stu, is the article that went viral from our dot conference, Splunk Conference last week was bridging the last mile for security and analytics. Where Splunk, a data log, and analysis companies now pivot, morphing, not pivoting, morphing into data analytics on apps, now going into security, into the network, that last mile, this is where the action is. Come on, John, over 100 million people last year learned that cyber is hot. So of course, cybersecurity is something we talk a little bit about of, and our guest this morning, Kevin, really kind of poo-pooed the fact that this was some just rogue person doing it. The statement I think he said is, we don't know, he doesn't know exactly who it is, but it sure looks like the pattern of Russian hackers and- On the DNC stuff I mentioned on stage, the question I want to ask you is, what's the impact of customers now? They've done their networking, they have their tuner for boxes, they have their switches, it's been security around for a long time, they've been doing perimeter-based security, what's the beef, what's the action going on for the impact to customers? What are they doing right now? So Dave Vellante has been looking at this space quite a bit over the last year, and this is a board-level conversation because it's not a question of if you'll be hacked, but when you've been hacked, the average hack has, by the time you find out about it, it was 200 days since you found out, so even if you've got your antivirus up to date, the great line from Kevin Mandia was that it's hard to patch a human, so we know there's people involved, we know there's so many places that people can get in, and it's kind of scary, it's something that companies all need to worry about, there's lots of insurance, there's lots of product they buy, but we live in, people often say that security is really an oxymoron in itself. So let's end this segment by understanding what we're going to be talking about today. Obviously, we had a lot of guests coming on here at the Juniper User Conference experts talking about what their environment's like, but this digital data can cohesion, or digital cohesiveness, if you will, really comes back down to the same old three-legged stool, you know, compute, storage, and networking stew. Now, on top of that, obviously apps, what does it actually mean to be cohesive in this area? What is Juniper putting forth? What is this North Star vision that they're talking about? Can you elaborate more on what that means, and how it impacts the classic building blocks of storage, compute, and networking? Sure, John, so our last guest today is going to be Jonathan Davidson, and he really walked through, it's the Sky ATP, which is the Advanced Threat Protection. Many of the things we've been hearing for a long time is it's moving very much to software, it's not device or location specific, but a lot of automation built in, a great line I love from Rami that got, when I tweeted it out, got a lot of play out there, is that we've been talking about automation for decades, and it's not like this is the first time that Juniper has talked about automation, but it's simple to say it, it's hard to do it. Automation does not mean taking jobs away. Automation means that it's going to free you up to be able to work on things. Oh, by the way, like making sure your security is in better shape, rather than running around pulling cables and the like. And it's not something that's tactical, I need to have that kind of broad view as to how things look. So the Sky ATP is the solution that they have, looking at detection, enforcement, policy and management. Juniper want to really dig in here. We've got some of their ecosystem partners, got some really good customers, thought leaders in the space. I mean, Juniper's a public company, been around for decades, well trusted in the environment, and it has a decent cloud play, something we talked about last year with them quite a bit, but excited to go through it. I'm interested to find out what they think of the movement of the cloud. Obviously, they will be impacted. The networking stuff changes, certainly the physical aspect of it, but software is still going to be valuable. Absolutely, even more. All right, Stu Miniman here, breaking it down from the Wikibon side. I'm John Furrier with Silicon Angle theCUBE, live in Silicon Valley for Juniper Networks, next work of 2016. This is their user conference. We're going to be getting all the data and share that with you here on theCUBE. We'll be right back with more live coverage after this short break.