 You're welcome back. It's time now to go to the press and see what the headlines are this morning in the national dailies. It's still the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. My name is Jampungul Aghaji. Okay, we're starting today with nature news. Nature news headlines. The first headline there is Nigeria needs 3.4 trillion Naira to tackle flood disaster. That is according to presidential counsel and you'll find that story on page 3. We also have Dangote refinery petrol heats market July. That means we'll have to wait till July before we begin to see the dividends of having that. Environment monitor flags of renovation of conference hall. Okay, we have biodiversity day. Expert demand collective efforts to build back biodiversity. Biodiversity experts are calling for collective efforts. Okay, that will be for nature news or there are so many other headlines in nature news as well. We have this one saying embrace agriculture with technology advancement. That will be on page 11 if you get that nature news. Addition Africa needs 2.7 trillion dollars to finance climate change. You'll find that on page nine. Addition is the president of the Africa Development Bank. Okay, SGF loads a demo of a passion towards sustainable development. Right, Nigeria's wheelchair is so odd. Nigeria wheelchair basketball peaks 2023 African Games ticket. Well, I didn't expect to see that on nature news, but as it goes, that's how the cookie crumbles. That will be all from nature news this morning. Moving over to what we can find on the nation newspaper. The nation newspaper leads with we borrowed for projects to create wealth says Buhari. The writer there is president speaks on debt burden. Second Niger Bridge roads offices inaugurated. We also have the story about the tribunal tribunal orders consolidation of PDP LP APM petitions. OB LP get three weeks to prove case hearing must end August 8 witnesses to testify from May 30. Okay, up on that newspaper at the top end of the newspaper, you find Biden's team for tinobu's inauguration. Blair will lack will back incoming government. Okay, those are the words of a foreign countries, other countries saying they're going to back it. Tony Blair was a former UK minister, foreign students, but from bringing family members to the UK. Stop harassing Kogi officials. Supreme Court tells anti-graft agencies agencies. Yeah, and then Belima, Belima oil president, Jack Ridge celebrates wife a little bit at 30. Okay, that's not much of a headline. Okay, happy birthday to whoever is celebrating. We move now to the Guardian, the Guardian newspaper. The Guardian leads with the, the Guardian leads with division over oil search in North as NNPC returns to Lake Chard. That story is on page six. NNPC is returning to Lake Chard to look for oil. Buhari clays over 40 pending memos appoints agency heads. Nigeria absent as African leaders fault global debt financing models. You'll find that on page 16. We also have in the Guardian concerns as Buhari withholds absent to sexual harassment bill days to exit. You find that on page four. We also have Supreme Court cautions against harassment of Kogi officials pending outcome of suit. And page three, we already found that in the nation. Buhari's fragile pieces, governance sans rule of law. Part two. Okay, that's an editorial on the Guardian. You can read that up and it continues on page 12 from page one. Okay, we'll move to the next newspaper and the final one for this morning. That is The Punch. The Punch leads with a story on security. Security agencies raid hotspots. Biden names U.S. delegation. The riders there are housing and urban development secretary to lead U.S. team to May 29 handover. Security agencies to restrict movement to Eagle Square beginning from Friday. UK ex-prime minister Blair meets president elect says running government a tough job. Other stories are CBN revokes 179 microfinance banks, others licenses. You may want to read that up, especially now that a lot of people are banking with these microfinance banks. A lot of them whose presence on the internet is more than the usual banks that we have, the orthodox banks that we have. So you better read that up and find out if one of the banks you're banking with is among the 179. Panic in Oshun has 35 pupils hospitalized after inhaling tear gas. We hear that the police fire tear gases and pupils are hospitalized because of that. I'm also going to blame dangote relocated refinery to Lagos. I'm also going to blame dangote relocated refinery to Lagos. Okay, maybe it was supposed to be to be located in a state, but now it moved to Lagos state. And I'm also going to blame tribunal. We tackle Tinubu as hearing begins on Tuesday. That's on page two. And finally on the punch, Buhari years infrastructure deficit remains wide. That's the story also on the punch. Well, those are the headlines that we are going to be taking this morning. As much as possible, we will take these headlines and we have to discuss with it with us. Tunde Kolawoli, a legal practitioner here in Lagos state. Tunde, good morning and welcome to the program. Tunde, can you hear me? Good morning and welcome to the program. I can't seem to hear Tunde talk back to me and I do hope that he's going to correct whatever the problem may be and get back to me. We need to discuss a lot of these things that we have found in the headlines. Some of them we know them already. We need more insight to it. Especially as Tunde is a legal practitioner and we're hoping that he's going to unravel some of the things that we might find as gray areas when it comes to the tribunal. That is the talk of the town as it is because May 29 is here and we have three months. We have from now till August actually to make sure that everything is heard. Every judgment is given. Justice is being done. That's the word I'm supposed to use. We will have an authentic president or we will find out what will happen after August 8. Tunde, can you hear me now? Yes, I can hear you. Beautiful. I was the one who couldn't hear you. Let's begin with some of these headlines. First of all, division over oil search in North as NNPC returns to Lake Chad. In the 21st century, we're returning to Lake Chad to spend all the money to look for oil. Is this a good venture or not? Yeah. Let me say that it is good for all that will continue to search. You and I will remember that oil has been found in Nigeria Republic and some parts of Cameroon. And the northern part of Nigeria belongs to that division. So if it is possible to get oil in Nigeria Republic and some parts of Cameroon, I should think that it is not impossible for us to also get oil in the northern part of the country. Yeah, but Tunde, my concern. Excuse me. And I think I have been said to continue how it is possible. But the question to ask now is when it is discovered, if it is not in commercial quantity, if it is not in commercial quantity, then the exercise might not be worth the while. Furthermore, we must remember that oil is no longer an energy source that the development of the world is to occupy it with. Even here in Nigeria, they are beginning to see glimpses as sooner than later. Oil will become a non-solar source of energy for technology. The legacy government, for example, has started investing in electrical and mass transit. The whole of Europe and America today, they are talking about clean energy. So why we are the third world country? Why do we think it is useful for us? We shouldn't devote too much energy and resources to the development of oil. When the whole world is not turning away from it and looking for very clean energy for power, engineering, oil, technology, and water. Furthermore, the oil that has been discovered from parts of the north is a lesson to others in Nigeria and Australia to the Niger air traffic. Before now, long before now, I have always said that the people in the Niger air traffic should be magnanimous and be ready to share the poses of oil with a counterpart in the north that it is not impossible that oil could be discovered also in the north. And I think if it is not discovered, oil is likely to be like coal which nobody is using, also not energy. So when that happens, and things are discovered in the north like gold as it has been discovered today, lithium and water. Will the Niger air traffic be happy if they don't say they are not? We need to share the process of that discovery. And with them, the answer is no. So the lesson here is that we all require to be collaborative. No matter what circumstances that we find out. Okay, well, because I was concerned about the fact that a lot of money will be voted into doing this, to explore and get whether they are going to have oil from the north or so. Why not use this on clean energy and what the world is diversifying into and all that. But here we are looking for oil at this time and buying electric cars on the other hand at the same time. And I was getting worried whether we are wasting money or we are using it well. Because if we spend billions, we've seen situations in Nigeria where committees are set and money is voted for these committees to look into an issue that required less money than what was going to be given to the committee. For instance, if let's say ASU is looking for 100 million, you set up a committee and give 120 million to the committee to look into the issues of ASU. And things like that have happened in this country. But that's matter for another day. Right now, we've heard that everything about the election petition tribunal should end if we understood it well. Maybe we didn't understand it well. But they said everything should end in August. By August 8, everything should be ended. And then there is this need for the consolidation of the cases of PDP, Anaticu, and LP, and OB, and the APM to get a consolidation. So what does that really mean? Is it going to affect the outcome of whatever is taking place at the tribunal now or not? Let's help us understand why people, three individual people, will have to merge their cases together. And what does that really mean to the layman? Tunde, can you hear me? Have I lost Tunde's audio again? That will be unfortunate. Hello, Tunde, can you hear me? Well, we seem to have lost Tunde's audio. I'm sure he can hear me wherever he is. And whenever he's back, we're going to bring that to the fore. We're going to be looking at the headlines, or we are looking at the headlines on the national dailies. And what I wanted him to really talk about right now was the fact that the courts have asked, the tribunal has asked the Atikwa Bubaka, the presidential candidate for the PDP, and Peter will be the presidential candidate for the Labour Party, and the APM to consolidate their cases. We do not understand what that is and how it's going to affect the outcome of the whole process. So we needed him to explain that to us as a legal practitioner himself, so that we get to know, because some people are saying that it might affect it negatively and all that. So, Tunde, I understand you're back. Can you hear me now? Yes, I'm hearing you. Good. Help us and explain to us what this really means, that the tribunal has asked, that has ordered, in fact, the consolidation of PDP, LP, APM petitions. What does that mean, and how is it going to affect the general outcome of the exercise? Well, it simply means that rather than take the petitions, one after the other, all the petitions will be had at the same time, and then ruling, or decisions, or judgments, will be given one. Because you now have three petitions before the fourth, and if it has to be taken one after the other, the tribunal will not be able to conclude this assignment. Within the allocated, or within the law given time, the thing which it should do is to work, which I think is about 180 days. I suspect that it should save time and make room for judicial hearing and delivery of whatever it is that might come from participation. That's why they did it. But I don't know. These are three individuals, let me put it that way, because PDP and Atiku, and then we have the LP and OB, and then the APM, and they're now bringing people who should have been talking from different perspectives and will now bring them together, and it's like a me against them kind of thing. I don't know how that works anyway, but you are the legal mind, and I do hope that they know what they're doing, and a lot of people have expressed the fear that it might give us an outcome that we did not like. So one fails, everybody fails. One wins, everybody wins, and if there's a win for the people who are petitioning, who takes the spoils? I don't understand. We lost your audio for a while, and if you're back, can you continue, please, to address the issue? Okay, we're still expecting today to rejoin us. We lost this audio there, and if you can hear us as soon as you get that back, please let us continue with what we're talking. But like I said, PDP is a different entity, LP is a different entity, APM is a different entity, and all the grievances may not particularly be the same. So right now they have to match them together so that the judgment will be fast, the proceedings will be fast, and everything will be fast about it. But like I asked, if jointly they have this case and judgment is passed, if it is in their favor, who takes the spoils? If it is not in their favor, what can they do? Can they now go back as individuals to repetition or to go to a higher court of competent jurisdiction and seek for redress or something? I do not understand all these things. Toonday, we really need you to come right back and explain to us some of these things that we do not understand. I don't understand it not being a legal practitioner myself. Are you back there, Toonday? Okay. We're still waiting, Toonday. He might come back anytime. But we do know that a lot of things are happening. August 8 is like the deadline that everybody is expecting that everything will be done. But we're just keeping our fingers crossed whenever we have the opportunity we'll have the experts unravel the situation for us. Tomorrow, or rather, May 30, hearing actually begins. Witnesses will begin to say what they're going to say and all that. But this is a time to call on Nigerians. If you know something that will help in this case, whether it is for the president-elect or against the president-elect or whoever else is standing trial as it is, please come out to say that. Whether it's in any space but bring your evidences, not conjecture, not supposition, not just assumption. If you have concrete evidence that will help in this case or monitor the case, even if you don't have any evidence, just monitor the case and know what is happening in your country and let's know how Nigeria goes. Dividends of democracy is not building of roads. It's not building of bridges. It's not building of schools. That's what governance is. Governance has no type of government as it is. Governance, whether it's autocracy, whether it is a democracy, whether it is whatever kind of crazy, it means that you will have to do these things as a must. Even if it is the Queen of England or the King of England as it is nowadays, that is superintendent over the entire UK, he will still need to do things, build bridges, build other things that need to be built, bring schools, bring healthcare and all that. That's not democracy. Democracy is the fact that you and I have a voice. We decide what happens in our community. We decide who governs us at any point in time. We decide how our country is run. So if people are in court because they want to rule our country or they are ruling our country, we should get interested in it. Whatever we can do to make sure that process is seamless, that process is transparent, that process is good enough for all of us, we should do it. I'm not calling on people to go and protest. That's not it is. But I'm calling on people to be interested in whatever happens or whatever will ultimately lead to the kind of Nigeria we want our country to be. So get interested. Listen to the radio, watch television, read the newspapers, go on social media. But if you are on social media, be sure to decipher between what is good and evil, what is true and what is false, and get some kind of checklist and say, okay, this passes the test. This must be true and all that. Check your facts and all that before you go public, if you have to tell somebody else about what is happening. But go to everywhere you can get information. Be interested in your country because the more people who are interested in what happens in our country, the more the people who are leading us will sit up because they know that we are looking like they always do the sign, my eyes are on you. If they know that our eyes are on them, then they will sit up and do what is right. Ask the relevant questions. Go to places where you can find out what is budgeted for what and how it is being used and so many other things and cry out when you see that it is not done well. I give you an instance of things that are not done well and you can cry out. There was a time I was traveling from my village to the state headquarters. I come from Cross River State and my tiny little village is Bansara. And a less than one kilometer from Bansara itself to the major highway, we used like two hours because the road was terrible and we had to go in that car. The road was terrible. I got to Calabar that evening and I saw on the news, in fact a documentary done about the road of Bansara and it was the smoothest road I've ever seen and there was a signpost actually directing people to Bansara. A signpost I didn't see from a village that I came that same day that the road was done and we cried out at least even if nothing is done there will be people who will know that if they told a lie the lie has been discovered. Whether the government does something about it or not is another case. Whether the relevant authorities do something about it or not is another case but let them know that you know the level of lies or truth that they are dishing out to you. So get interested in your country and what we can say. There are a lot of things on the headlines we hope that you will read them and find out what is going on in your country. Don't just sit and read things on the social media and watch skits and all that because at the end of the day when everything goes wrong or when something goes wrong we all will have to suffer for it. Well, this is our country. Let's sit up and do the right thing. Well, we'll take a break now and one of me is World Menstrual Hygiene Day and we'll be looking at some of the issues in that regard. But just stay with us. We'll be right back in a moment.