 This is the SF Productions podcast network More fall TV news from the pop culture bunker I'm Mindy and I'm mark you can check out our audio podcast how I get my way three comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast that work calm well There was just so much to talk about that about the fall TV season that we broke it up into two episodes So let's get back to the action Let's talk about some of the shows that bit the dust Also announced it up front. Yes on ABC Castle after eight seasons, which I think what Pass the data should have been cancelled now. They were planning on continuing the series, right? But they were planning on continuing it without the female lead without the female lead Let's get rid of that kid. So they fired Beckett in the other principal female character And then they were going to try to continue it on right There was an outcry over that one. Yes, there was so anyways, it really was due for it to be cancelled I'd like to see Nathan Fillion doing something, but not this would be nice The family the 12th and final episode tells the tale the title of the episode was what took so long Gallivant we loved this show But we were just shocked when it actually got it even a second season so we feel like lucky that it even had a second season and the second season introduced the star of Gallivant to Kylie Minogue, yeah, and they got married. Yeah. Hey, you know Marvel's agent Carter Haley at well, of course has moved on There's a push to move it to Netflix But I think that's a huge mistake because that in no way fits with the other Marvel Netflix No, it does not it's a completely different concept. Well, you know, it's it's just that the whole Atmosphere of the show is so different than what's on there. I'd like having them separate now. Maybe if you could I Don't know because because they're still technically part of the same Marvel universe, I think yeah But it almost seems to me like, you know, you have the Marvel cinematic universe You should have the Marvel Netflix and essentially you do. Yeah Yeah The Muppets well the second half of the season improved, but they had dug too deep a hole early on Trying to make it more gritty and real and it's like it's puppets It's puppets. They should have just done the show and been done with it. Yeah Nashville after four seasons. Well, at least Connie Britton is freed up to do a good show of Kings and prophets so its Bible meets Game of Thrones. It was done in four episodes That was gone Wicked City the 80s serial killer mini series that was done in eight episodes We'll run CBS angel from hell done in five episodes We kind of liked it, but I thought that was another bad fit for CBS as a sitcom CSI cyber the 16 year run of the franchise comes to a close. There's no CSIs left. That's it Wow We're done. We're done with CSI. Yeah The good wife seven seasons. I think there were too many cast changes to the point. It was kind of like drama helper They kept throwing new big characters in Limitless one and done Rush hour a retroactive mini series apparently the episodes will burn off this summer Uh-huh Mike and Molly six seasons kind of shocking. They were able to keep Melissa McCarthy on a TV show this long Person of interest five seasons and they're just burning off the last episodes now Well, yes, but actually I'm doing ketchup on person of interest right now I've seen all four of the previous seasons and I'm working my way through these and it's actually a good show And they're using these last at least apparently the last season to actually like close out some big episodes Arc, so at least they got to do that good Well run the CW didn't have a lot to cancel because they kept almost everything But they did get rid of America's next top model which has now moved to VH one after 22 Seasons with reality shows. It's really not seasons. Yeah, because they call like 13 episodes a season They should call them series like they do in Britain. Yes Beauty and the Beast for four seasons that ran and it's being burned off this summer That's the one that had the girl that played Lois on Smallville played Lana on small Lana. Okay, Lana. Yeah, you're right Over on Fox American Idol 15 seasons our long national nightmare is over. Yay Border town Fox keeps trying to catch another Simpsons and it fails again 13 episodes of that Cooper Barrett's guide to surviving life only half a season and gone Grandfathered one and done. I thought this was actually doing well I wonder if they want to take the new girl around and move it to Hulu or something I don't know maybe and the grinder see grandfathered basically the same situation Yeah, and I actually kind of like the grinder. Yeah, but you know, I have a soft place in my heart for Roblo, so Knock knock live. This was a show. I don't even know what that was Minority report because movie remakes always work Yes, as you can see from next season, you know, because they're gonna be like do a bunch of them 10 episodes of that Second chance a sci-fi crime series with 11 episodes. That's gone. I don't even know what that was It was kind of like Frankenstein, but it's modern day and okay It's cop not a cop and he goes and fights crime as yeah Frankenstein. I don't know. Yeah NBC best time ever with Neil Patrick Harris. I really wish this had worked Yeah, I do too. Not enough variety too many gimmicks. I would agree with that. Yes Crowded which will be best remembered as the 1,000th episode of a sitcom directed by James Burroughs And that's what they basically when this show came on the air. That's what they were pointing out Not the cast not the show James Burroughs is involved. So, you know, it's gonna be good Game of silence. This was a show 10 episodes. Yeah, heartbeat That's the one I was thinking of the medical series that was here and gone. You're gonna hurt me Heroes return reborn reborn a lot of effort for 13 episodes Mr. Robinson and I'm putting an asterisk by this because this was actually gone last August They only just got around to announcing it now The mysteries of Laura after three seasons Debra Messing must have misplaced those incriminating NBC executive photos Yes, they got rid of her The player they continued to try to amortize the Montecito casino set from Las Vegas nine episodes Tell a novella NBC's attempt to reach out to Latinos failed Truth be told ten episodes of another failed NBC comedy and finally undatable Went for four seasons even doing the shows live in the final season did not save this series No, and then there's supergirl Which is moving from the CBS to the CW where probably should have been in the first place Yes, as well as moving to Vancouver where all the other CW superhero shows are produced. Yes And so maybe we'll see more crossover. Yeah, I'm sure we will in fact They've even announced four-way crossover in December. Wow. Okay. Yeah looking forward to that Now other shows have switched teams It usually happens when the run is basically over taxi move from ABC to NBC different strokes move from NBC to ABC Get smart move from NBC to CBS Scrubs move from NBC to ABC. Mm-hmm, and then there's jag and then there's jag That had one season and NBC and then a very long CBS run. Yes. Mm-hmm, and it was a much better fit for CBS Wonder Woman started on ABC then switched to CBS as well as from World War two to the 70s Mm-hmm, and again CW is a much better fit for Supergirl You can be sure that we will be watching Supergirl, right? Yes And while we're watching Supergirl, you can check out our audio podcast How I got my wife treat comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network calm from the pop culture bunker I'm Mindy and I'm Mark. Thanks for watching